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Nov 25, 2012 5:54 PM
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Japan's got a lot of censoring going on, plus it's takes a hell of a lot of money to live there too. I think some guy said that it costs 30 bucks to get a small pizza from Pizza Hut in Japan. Why do anime/manga creators, who get paid super low, stay in Japan? Why not pack their bags and move to some place where censorship is a little lax and costs of living are a little better?

I think we all know that hentai are censored, and there was a new law recently on censoring anime altogether. The law states something like, no anime which might be "harmful to the youth" should be created...there goes freedom of expression in anime. Now the future of anime is PG-13 kiddie stuff and a lot less serious R-rated stuff. Anyway, I could be wrong with this law but I'm sure costs of living still suck, as well as censorship.

Anime/manga creators...Y U NO LEAVE JAPAN?! and go create anime/manga outside of Japan?
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Nov 25, 2012 5:55 PM
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Because they would need to adapt and find a new job?

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Nov 25, 2012 5:58 PM
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rederoin said:
Because they would need to adapt and find a new job?
I didn't say give up manga/anime creation.

Why can't they go create manga/anime in other countries?
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stanklem28 said:
rederoin said:
Because they would need to adapt and find a new job?
I didn't say give up manga/anime creation.

Why can't they go create manga/anime in other countries?

Use common sense.

The anime industry only exists in Japan. You don't need to make threads for such simple things.

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Nov 25, 2012 5:59 PM
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stanklem28 said:
rederoin said:
Because they would need to adapt and find a new job?
I didn't say give up manga/anime creation.

Why can't they go create manga/anime in other countries?

Visiting their editors might be difficult, and it puts them at a major disadvantage compared to other authors.
Nov 25, 2012 6:00 PM
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rederoin said:
stanklem28 said:
rederoin said:
Because they would need to adapt and find a new job?
I didn't say give up manga/anime creation.

Why can't they go create manga/anime in other countries?

Use common sense.

The anime industry only exists in Japan. You don't need to make threads for such simple things.
Impossible. That's outrageous.

So you're saying an manga/anime artist has nowhere else to turn except Japan if he/she wants to find a job?
Nov 25, 2012 6:01 PM
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stanklem28 said:
rederoin said:
stanklem28 said:
rederoin said:
Because they would need to adapt and find a new job?
I didn't say give up manga/anime creation.

Why can't they go create manga/anime in other countries?

Use common sense.

The anime industry only exists in Japan. You don't need to make threads for such simple things.
Impossible. That's outrageous.

So you're saying an manga/anime artist has nowhere else to turn except Japan if he/she wants to find a job?

No, I never said that. Read my post, I said they'll need to find a new job if they moved out of Japan.

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Nov 25, 2012 6:04 PM
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monty1 said:
rederoin said:
Because they would need to adapt and find a new job?

People really need to stop posting after only reading the thread title.

I read the OP.


monty1 said:
rederoin said:

The anime industry only exists in Japan.


u wot m8?

The animation is already being done in countries like Korea and Vietnam.

The anime industry wouldn't exist without Japan.

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Nov 25, 2012 6:04 PM
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monty1 said:
rederoin said:
monty1 said:
rederoin said:
Because they would need to adapt and find a new job?

People really need to stop posting after only reading the thread title.

"Modified by stanklem28, 49 seconds ago"

Read the entire OP before you common on other posts in a thread(such irony)

Ironic huh, too bad I quoted you before the edit. He only added the last line, you're telling me you couldn't figure out what he was saying without it? I got bad news for you son...

I misunderstood you, but I did read the entire Op before I posted.

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Nov 25, 2012 6:06 PM
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>creating anime/manga outside of Japan

Dafuq...
Nov 25, 2012 6:27 PM

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Being in such a low-paying job I imagine they cannot afford to just pack up and leave everything they know behind them for a bold new animation career outside of Japan.
Nov 25, 2012 6:50 PM

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Because most people don't give a fuck about anime and manga outside of Japan.
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Nov 25, 2012 7:08 PM
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BloodRequiem said:
Because most people don't give a fuck about anime and manga outside of Japan.
I don't live in Japan and I care about manga and anime.
Nov 25, 2012 7:08 PM

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Because they want their anime to be on MAL.

Move to America and you're right next to shows like Avatar and you can kiss being featured on the greatest anime database on the net.

stanklem28 said:
BloodRequiem said:
Because most people don't give a fuck about anime and manga outside of Japan.
I don't live in Japan and I care about manga and anime.


I think he meant people don't care about 'anime/manga' that's not made in Japan.

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Nov 25, 2012 7:18 PM

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stanklem28 said:
BloodRequiem said:
Because most people don't give a fuck about anime and manga outside of Japan.
I don't live in Japan and I care about manga and anime.


How do you, me, everyone else on this site, and all the weeaboos out there compare to 6 billion people on earth? At least you'll have a market if you stay in Japan.
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Nov 25, 2012 7:20 PM

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stanklem28 said:
BloodRequiem said:
Because most people don't give a fuck about anime and manga outside of Japan.
I don't live in Japan and I care about manga and anime.


The anime industry outside of Japan is shit. Even if you do care, the number of people that actually contributes to the anime industry is very little outside of Japan. Sadly, they have to milk money from otakus in Japan for the industry to survive.

Also, they are terribly paid so moving to another country is a bad idea with all the expenses needed to do so. Which country would they move to anyways?
Nov 25, 2012 7:26 PM

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I think it's important to bring up the fact that Japanese creators of anime in Japan focus primarily on what audience? What audience will understand the cultural jokes/sarcasms/references specific to Japan's way of life? Certainly not another country, the majority at least.
It would be a lost cause, plus having to hire and find Japanese voice actors would be more expensive.

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Nov 25, 2012 7:28 PM

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stanklem28 said:
Anime/manga creators...Y U NO LEAVE JAPAN?! and go create anime/manga outside of Japan?
There's no anime industry outside of Japan, so unless all the editors and publishers and anime producing studios leave with them, what would the point be? They will have to send their work back into the country.
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Nov 25, 2012 7:35 PM

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Tavor said:
I think it's important to bring up the fact that Japanese creators of anime in Japan focus primarily on what audience? What audience will understand the cultural jokes/sarcasms/references specific to Japan's way of life? Certainly not another country, the majority at least.
It would be a lost cause, plus having to hire and find Japanese voice actors would be more expensive.

This.
How is this not completely obvious to the OP?

If you really want to fit in, just put Legend of the Galactic Heroes in your top 5 and have it be the only 10-rated anime in your list.
Nov 25, 2012 8:27 PM
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Sad times.

Imagine an alternate dimension where "anime" sprung out in New Zealand or Australia instead of Japan. Art and everything's the same, and the only difference is its origin. How epic would that be? everything'll be in English and Japan will just be another island, nothing special, at least not to "anime" fans. Granted, it wouldn't be called "anime" in this dimension, but rather some English term.

I guess what started out in history is stuck in the present and you can't do anything to change it.
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stanklem28 said:
Sad times.

Imagine an alternate dimension where "anime" sprung out in New Zealand or Australia instead of Japan. Art and everything's the same, and the only difference is its origin. How epic would that be? everything'll be in English and Japan will just be another island, nothing special, at least not to "anime" fans. Granted, it wouldn't be called "anime" in this dimension, but rather some English term.

I guess what started out in history is stuck in the present and you can't do anything to change it.


So...you're just pissed off that English countries can't produce cartoons like how the Japanese do?

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stanklem28 said:
Sad times.

Imagine an alternate dimension where "anime" sprung out in New Zealand or Australia instead of Japan. Art and everything's the same, and the only difference is its origin. How epic would that be? everything'll be in English and Japan will just be another island, nothing special, at least not to "anime" fans. Granted, it wouldn't be called "anime" in this dimension, but rather some English term.

I guess what started out in history is stuck in the present and you can't do anything to change it.
Anime was made because of Japanese culture, if it was made in another country it would be impossible to be the same. The word anime is just animation shortened, and you know the Japanese love to shorten everything. Using swords mostly instead of guns, samurai, ninja, story lines, folktales, the art, almost everything is unique to Japan and they have spent a lot of time developing it. There's something about anime that most of us like more than other shows and that's why we like it, changing the country might make it lose all it's charm.
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Adding to what IntroverTurtle said, I think it's way more fun to learn about a foreign culture because it's something totally different from what you're used to.

That's why I got bored of American cartoons/shows in general because you already understand 'everything'. I needed something new and wanted to tap into my Japanese side more since my mother doesn't really have that much recollection of living in Japanese society.

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Nov 28, 2012 2:00 AM
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It's just odd that the Japanese are the main manufacturer of these animated entertainment pieces that are drawn with unique art styles (refraining the use of the word "anime" here) only seen in Japan. Why can't Korea be famous for its animation? Why not China?

Furthermore, I don't know why animators/artists who specialize in animating/drawing these art pieces resembling anime art style must confine themselves in Japan to make an income. Aren't there editors and studios in other countries too? Say a Scottish artist knows how to draw great cartoons and wants to make a living, but this Scottish artist's cartoons look 100% anime. That means this artist has to move all the way to Japan to make a sustainable living? No studio or editors in Scotland will accept this artist's work?

And no, Avatar isn't 100% anime, it's more like 80%. I mean 100% as in 100% art resemblance.
Nov 28, 2012 2:05 AM

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OP's posts made me face palm hard.
Nov 28, 2012 2:08 AM
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Censorship? Have you actually watched cartoons from other countries?

Anime would stop being anime if they had to conform to America or Canada's censorship of animation and ideals of animation just being kiddy fare.
Nov 28, 2012 2:21 AM

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Because it is the birthplace of anime and manga silly. Let me put it this way, when you want to open a shop the best place to put it is in the mall right? it's the similar logic.
Nov 28, 2012 3:49 AM
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Because. Its hard enough to get yourself recognised in Japan, The chances are even slimmer where there is less of a market else where.

Plus as mentioned Censorship.
Half the stuff that is drawn and sold, is pretty much illegal under some western regulations, either due to the nature of the drawings, or the story content. Incest, and Loli's, Rape. Plus the amount of Womens rights groups.

Plus just moving to another country won't make you money, unless you can find a publisher to support you. American comics seem to demand Colour comics now. Manga is still mainly Black and white, Only the cover art for the Volumes get a colour version.

Plus its also about being able to find the Assistants that are mentioned in the industry. Which I doubt a foreign country would have.

Then there is also the culture barrier, Jokes that the Japanese find funny won't make sense to Western audiences, and the translation problems aswell.
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Maybe it's easier to stay in the country they're already in and they're fine with how things are... Aside from that, they'd have to learn a new language in order to do that. :O That takes up a lot of time and if you're already busy with your job as an artist/author/etc., the progress will be slow. Plus, manga/anime is most popular in Japan.
Nov 28, 2012 9:56 AM

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It's just odd that the Japanese are the main manufacturer of these animated entertainment pieces that are drawn with unique art styles (refraining the use of the word "anime" here) only seen in Japan. Why can't Korea be famous for its animation? Why not China?

Furthermore, I don't know why animators/artists who specialize in animating/drawing these art pieces resembling anime art style must confine themselves in Japan to make an income. Aren't there editors and studios in other countries too? Say a Scottish artist knows how to draw great cartoons and wants to make a living, but this Scottish artist's cartoons look 100% anime. That means this artist has to move all the way to Japan to make a sustainable living? No studio or editors in Scotland will accept this artist's work?

And no, Avatar isn't 100% anime, it's more like 80%. I mean 100% as in 100% art resemblance.

Artstyle doesen't make an anime, its irrelevant. Avatar is 0% anime. The artists in scotland will make money by animating western cartoons.


Do you even think before you post? The animation industry is huge in Japan(if you want to know why, just google it) compared to other countries(correct me if i'm wrong).

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Nov 28, 2012 10:20 AM
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Sorry if I am cold posting now, but I'd like to get my thoughts about this right now. Anime has a large share of the market in Japan, it is so much larger than in America, Europe, and other countries. Even if they tried going there; their work wouldn't be recognised, no animation company would be able to turn it into something good. And the chances that it could take a part in the busy schedule of a station is also near impossible.

Furthermore there are lots of social reasons, they would need to adapt to another countries traditions, learn a new language and whatnot. Lastly to be honest, Japanese are a bit elitist, they do see themselves as the best country to exist, so they probably don't even want to.
Nov 28, 2012 11:37 AM
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They'd need to adjust to their new surroundings and it would NOT be easy in other countries.

Let them stay, they don't have to move and your silly implication that they all want to leave is laughable.
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I think people there dont see the utility to move to another country.
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People don't normally ask questions this dumb unless they are trolling. I wish that were the case here...
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