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Nov 22, 2012 6:41 AM
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Dec 1, 2012 2:19 PM
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"I Was Just Wondering If This Was Real"
Lol
Exactly What My Mom Said Looking At My Report Card >_>
Dec 1, 2012 4:44 PM
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It's always been obvious that Tora is interested in Misaki, despite his constant cold behavior towards her. It's cute to finally see him start to show his fondness for her. ^^

Despite what anyone says, I've always liked Tora.
Dec 1, 2012 4:45 PM
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I wonder what is Tora Igarashi's real intension of helping Misa-Chan...
I think it's more than just having a connection with the Walker Family... hmmm..
Dec 1, 2012 5:13 PM
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I'm starting to lose sight of the point of Misaki's departure to England...
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Dec 1, 2012 5:53 PM
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This was a disappointingly average, moderately unsatisfying chapter. It was infinitely better than the last, which is among the worst in the entire manga, but, aside from Misaki’s development, the rest was pointless mediocrity, at best.

The most enjoyable aspect to this chapter is that Misaki never deterred from her resolve to bring Usui back, which is excellently consistent characterization, and I loved that she spoke Usui’s name while sleeping, partially due to fact that it reminds Tora that he’ll never earn anything but a begrudging friendliness from her, which is completely appropriate, since he effectively assaulted her upon first meeting her, and is only now able to interact with her because she’s basically forced to acquire his assistance.

I suppose my biggest complaint is that Usui, once again, was practically absent from the chapter, aside from a few panels in which he looks at various objects. The story’s already weakened a bit by the lack of Usui and Misaki interactions, but nearly removing him altogether from the last two chapters has been an unfortunate, but obviously temporary flaw. To make this disappointing disparity even clearer, Tora was involved in 32 pages over the last two chapters, while Usui was only in 3, which is thoroughly ridiculous.

Another significant criticism that I must address in regards to Fujiwara’s writing is that, due to Tora’s unnecessary prevalence in the last two chapters, the story has seemingly shifted him into the role of a main character, while needlessly and temporarily dismissing Usui’s importance in the narrative. 77 chapters into the story, and it’s suddenly decided to waste considerable time on tediously developing Tora’s emotions and internal motivations. It’s almost as though this is paving the way for some spin-off story, in which a relationship starts between Tora and Misaki. Obviously that’s not the case, but, what with the insufferable dance in the previous chapter, the ridiculously contrived moment towards the end of this chapter that involved Tora placing his jacket over a sleeping Misaki, and the continued, deliberate, failed attempts to paint him as this deeply sympathetic character with the whole subplot about his arranged marriage, it certainly highlights the fact that Fujiwara is placing far too much unwanted emphasis on a character that is purely secondary and has practically no relevance in this manga, aside from being a “hot”, conflicted character. Of course, relevance could and should be given to him temporarily, but these attempts are consistently undercut by the ridiculous notion that he should even be given something more then mere relevance. I don’t give a damn about Tora’s feelings when Usui and Misaki’s romance is the central focus of this arc, since there is a massive, unmistakable divide between Tora’s slight feelings and the relationship between Usui and Misaki. One is incredibly important and meaningful to the narrative and the other is riddled with cliché contrivances and excessive, pandering ship-service, thus creating a lack of purpose, significance, and emotional weight to any of the material that has elaborated on Tora.

Also, hopefully Tora isn’t traveling with Misaki to England by himself. Hell, I don’t want him to accompany her at all, but if it’s not at least with the rest of the Miyabigaouka clan, then it’s just another terrible, worthless, contrived development that will inevitably only lead to a furtherance of the atrocious, pandering shipping “moments” that Fujiwara suddenly seems incapable of resisting to include in every chapter. Not only that, but the next section of the arc really needs to be entirely devoted to Usui and Misaki’s unbreakable love for one another, which will very likely be tarnished ever so slightly if all of her attempts to reach Usui are interrupted by Tora’s possessive arrogance and a plethora of incredibly unnecessary “moments” between them, which, of course, will never mean anything, but they ultimately detract from the focus of this arc, which is entirely centered around Misaki’s love for Usui, but, for whatever reason, aside from a few spoken words by Misaki, these last two chapters have shifted that focus temporarily, which induces the appearance of tonal and thematic inconsistency. It’s not as though he’ll even be tangentially involved after this portion of the story, since his extremely slim usefulness will be erased as soon as this arc concludes.

The thing is, even though he has a very long way to go, I actually want Tora to eventually become a sympathetic, understandable character, and one of the best ways to depict that transition is by having him legitimately become a friend to Misaki, but I really, really dislike how Fujiwara seems solely capable and willing to portray that change through Tora’s possible “interest” in Misaki, which is a considerable flaw, and a waste of satisfying character development, since it results in just another contrived, predictable plot convenience that doesn’t actually rely on purely kind intentions, thus creating a disconnect between his gradually evolved characterization and the significance behind this “meaningful” development.

Despite the numerous problems I have with the last two chapters, I fully expect the second half of the arc to be fantastic. As such, I can't wait for the 78th chapter, since Usui and Misaki will finally see each other again. Too bad it won't be released until January.
Dec 1, 2012 5:56 PM
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Yeah, get going and bring him back, nice to see Aoi again, btw.

Also, pirate Misaki is hot.


BlasianAngel said:
It's always been obvious that Tora is interested in Misaki, despite his constant cold behavior towards her. It's cute to finally see him start to show his fondness for her. ^^

Despite what anyone says, I've always liked Tora.

I'm with you on that matter.
Dec 1, 2012 7:50 PM
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Off to England!

Can't wait for their meeting!
Dec 1, 2012 9:38 PM
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I smell an ending to this arc coming up.

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Dec 1, 2012 11:01 PM

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I smell an ending to this arc coming up.
I certainly hope so. Everything about this arc has sucked, and I'm losing my patience. Perhaps if the manga was weekly so they could move through it faster it would be a little more tolerable, but it's released so slowly and then nothing happens in each chapter.
Dec 2, 2012 3:17 AM
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Wounder when will Misaki finnaly go to England,its taking to loooong.
Dec 2, 2012 8:20 AM
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I actually don't mind this arc, it's not as bad as people say. But yeah, the last two chapters were little annoying. And I don't know why Fujiwara - sensei is making Tora fall in love with Misaki, it's pointless. I mean, Misaki and Usui love each other and they are the main charachters. This manga is about their love, not about the love between Tora and Misaki.
And I can't wait till the next chapter, so Misa and Usui can already meet.
Dec 2, 2012 11:30 AM

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I have a feeling that Usui and Misaki won't meet in the next chapter, unless that anniversary party happens. I think she will try and get into that party and then finally get to see Usui again. I hope that we get to see more of Usui though in the next chapter, I am going into withdrawal T_T
Dec 2, 2012 1:22 PM

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She finally went to England.
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BlasianAngel said:
It's always been obvious that Tora is interested in Misaki, despite his constant cold behavior towards her. It's cute to finally see him start to show his fondness for her. ^^

Despite what anyone says, I've always liked Tora.

Me too. and I think now he will be more likeable by everyone.
Dec 2, 2012 6:15 PM
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BlasianAngel said:
It's always been obvious that Tora is interested in Misaki, despite his constant cold behavior towards her. It's cute to finally see him start to show his fondness for her. ^^

Despite what anyone says, I've always liked Tora.


Me too lol. If for some reason Misaki and Usui split up then they should get together.
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Dec 2, 2012 10:41 PM

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Oh I definitely want her with Usui but I think Tora has seriously fallen for her and might try to use that somehow, but I am sure she will wind up with Usui. I think that some of the side characters rotate in and out of more main roles, like Shinitani who was definitely important this chapter as well.
Dec 3, 2012 6:59 PM

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The hell with Tora and Misaki why people like these two as couple....so basically Tora became MC while Usui is the side character. I don't freaking care about Tora's feeling for Misaki he needs to get his own woman instead of stealing someone else's clearly Misaki has fallen for Usui.

These chapters about saving Usui is getting annoying with pointless love triangle with a side character who rarely even show up on each chapters, suddenly the main character Usui just disappear. I'm losing my patience that chapters release once a month. I wish that they are release every week. >_>
Dec 7, 2012 5:41 PM

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A few things to say:

1. Pirate day at maid latte was great, all maids look great with pirate costume. Specially Misaki and Erika
2. Ufff... so, finaly Misaki is on England. Will be difficult for she speack english, waiting for next chapter to see this.
Dec 10, 2012 2:39 PM
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FINALLLYYY THEY ARE ABLE TO MOVE ONNNN!!!!!!
I've been waiting for so long for Misaki to go to england so there can finally be some actions!
Interesting development with Tora and Misaki, but I still think Misaki and Takumi looks best together, Tora isn't outstanding enough to become a Super Tag Team with Misaki.
I agree with people that want more Takumi in the chapters, and as such, I'm looking forward to next chapter :D, can't wait to see what happens :D
Jan 9, 2013 7:30 AM

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Can't wait for the next chapter!! :]]
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It was obvious that he loved her.
Still, that ending with that dialogue, it's like there's going to be a time skip or something... It left me unease.
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This was a disappointingly average, moderately unsatisfying chapter. It was infinitely better than the last, which is among the worst in the entire manga, but, aside from Misaki’s development, the rest was pointless mediocrity, at best.

The most enjoyable aspect to this chapter is that Misaki never deterred from her resolve to bring Usui back, which is excellently consistent characterization, and I loved that she spoke Usui’s name while sleeping, partially due to fact that it reminds Tora that he’ll never earn anything but a begrudging friendliness from her, which is completely appropriate, since he effectively assaulted her upon first meeting her, and is only now able to interact with her because she’s basically forced to acquire his assistance.

I suppose my biggest complaint is that Usui, once again, was practically absent from the chapter, aside from a few panels in which he looks at various objects. The story’s already weakened a bit by the lack of Usui and Misaki interactions, but nearly removing him altogether from the last two chapters has been an unfortunate, but obviously temporary flaw. To make this disappointing disparity even clearer, Tora was involved in 32 pages over the last two chapters, while Usui was only in 3, which is thoroughly ridiculous.

Another significant criticism that I must address in regards to Fujiwara’s writing is that, due to Tora’s unnecessary prevalence in the last two chapters, the story has seemingly shifted him into the role of a main character, while needlessly and temporarily dismissing Usui’s importance in the narrative. 77 chapters into the story, and it’s suddenly decided to waste considerable time on tediously developing Tora’s emotions and internal motivations. It’s almost as though this is paving the way for some spin-off story, in which a relationship starts between Tora and Misaki. Obviously that’s not the case, but, what with the insufferable dance in the previous chapter, the ridiculously contrived moment towards the end of this chapter that involved Tora placing his jacket over a sleeping Misaki, and the continued, deliberate, failed attempts to paint him as this deeply sympathetic character with the whole subplot about his arranged marriage, it certainly highlights the fact that Fujiwara is placing far too much unwanted emphasis on a character that is purely secondary and has practically no relevance in this manga, aside from being a “hot”, conflicted character. Of course, relevance could and should be given to him temporarily, but these attempts are consistently undercut by the ridiculous notion that he should even be given something more then mere relevance. I don’t give a damn about Tora’s feelings when Usui and Misaki’s romance is the central focus of this arc, since there is a massive, unmistakable divide between Tora’s slight feelings and the relationship between Usui and Misaki. One is incredibly important and meaningful to the narrative and the other is riddled with cliché contrivances and excessive, pandering ship-service, thus creating a lack of purpose, significance, and emotional weight to any of the material that has elaborated on Tora.

Also, hopefully Tora isn’t traveling with Misaki to England by himself. Hell, I don’t want him to accompany her at all, but if it’s not at least with the rest of the Miyabigaouka clan, then it’s just another terrible, worthless, contrived development that will inevitably only lead to a furtherance of the atrocious, pandering shipping “moments” that Fujiwara suddenly seems incapable of resisting to include in every chapter. Not only that, but the next section of the arc really needs to be entirely devoted to Usui and Misaki’s unbreakable love for one another, which will very likely be tarnished ever so slightly if all of her attempts to reach Usui are interrupted by Tora’s possessive arrogance and a plethora of incredibly unnecessary “moments” between them, which, of course, will never mean anything, but they ultimately detract from the focus of this arc, which is entirely centered around Misaki’s love for Usui, but, for whatever reason, aside from a few spoken words by Misaki, these last two chapters have shifted that focus temporarily, which induces the appearance of tonal and thematic inconsistency. It’s not as though he’ll even be tangentially involved after this portion of the story, since his extremely slim usefulness will be erased as soon as this arc concludes.

The thing is, even though he has a very long way to go, I actually want Tora to eventually become a sympathetic, understandable character, and one of the best ways to depict that transition is by having him legitimately become a friend to Misaki, but I really, really dislike how Fujiwara seems solely capable and willing to portray that change through Tora’s possible “interest” in Misaki, which is a considerable flaw, and a waste of satisfying character development, since it results in just another contrived, predictable plot convenience that doesn’t actually rely on purely kind intentions, thus creating a disconnect between his gradually evolved characterization and the significance behind this “meaningful” development.

Despite the numerous problems I have with the last two chapters, I fully expect the second half of the arc to be fantastic. As such, I can't wait for the 78th chapter, since Usui and Misaki will finally see each other again. Too bad it won't be released until January.


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