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Nov 10, 2012 1:08 PM

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This, then this.

Anyways, I found this episode pretty fun, specifically the transformation part. Kirito tasting Lyfa's hand. Oh dam.
Nov 10, 2012 1:10 PM

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Oh damn. Imouto is uber-cute. Give up on Asuna, Kirito! =D
Nov 10, 2012 1:13 PM

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Magic casting looks really cool.
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How is Kirito's class useless compared to others? I really dont get it.

he can turn into a big monster and rampage all over the place - you can do big damage although you'd be easy target , also he has hyperspeed. O.O

Illusion skills arent bad either ( kirito - kage - nojutsu lmao), he could clone himself or be really tricky..

I found this episode enjoyable.
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Lylaaz said:
How is Kirito's class useless compared to others? I really dont get it.

he can turn into a big monster and rampage all over the place - you can do big damage although you'd be easy target , also he has hyperspeed. O.O

Illusion skills arent bad either ( kirito - kage - nojutsu lmao), he could clone himself or be really tricky..

I found this episode enjoyable.


The skill doesn't improve your stats and most players just get turned into a small monster since the outcome is based on your character's skills and such. It's useful for Kirito here since he gets a really big transformation that gives him a longer reach and scares the other players so they break up their formation.
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This episode is AWESOME SAUCE! The fight against 12 prick is epic going wild in demon form DAMN! Suguha has awesome cleavage during the fight and IRL xD

need more episodes!
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This episode severely lacks sugou. I am dissapoint.

BTW at the beginning kirito said he had to memorize english words, none of the words in the spells were english, they sounded german....
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Lylaaz said:
How is Kirito's class useless compared to others? I really dont get it.

he can turn into a big monster and rampage all over the place - you can do big damage although you'd be easy target , also he has hyperspeed. O.O

Illusion skills arent bad either ( kirito - kage - nojutsu lmao), he could clone himself or be really tricky..


well the thing that they don't mention about that spell in the anime is that you dont actually get any stronger when you transform, you just turn into an equivalently powerful creature, which means that scince kirito is approximatly as strong as The Gleam Eyes he turned into that..... without the sword for some reason. And as for the illusion thing people don't like the fact that they deal no dmg on their own so you would actually have to think before using them :P

All in all i loved this episode, the duel next episode is going to be amazing I think.
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Lylaaz said:
How is Kirito's class useless compared to others? I really dont get it.

he can turn into a big monster and rampage all over the place - you can do big damage although you'd be easy target , also he has hyperspeed. O.O

Illusion skills arent bad either ( kirito - kage - nojutsu lmao), he could clone himself or be really tricky..

I found this episode enjoyable.


Most illusion spells aren't really good in real battle. The transform speels has such mechanics

The spell Kirito is casting is an illusion magic that makes a player look like a monster. But the magic is not useful in actual combat. Because the shape depends randomly on the player's combat skills, usually the result is some weak monster, with no change in stats, since most people are aware of this it won't frighten them.


So due to high Kirito stats and luck such terrifying monster was born. Next time monster can be weaker, so the spell is not really reliable.


Edit: I was third to explain. The spell usually doesn't change stats, but here it was the other case.
Nov 10, 2012 1:23 PM

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This episode severely lacks sugou. I am dissapoint.


As am I.
Nov 10, 2012 1:27 PM

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Decent 3/5 :)

Nov 10, 2012 1:31 PM

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Amazing episode, And it seems like the next one is going to be very interesting as well.
Nov 10, 2012 1:32 PM

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Pretty good episode.Kirito turned into boss from SAO.
Nov 10, 2012 1:36 PM

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it was an ok episode...was thinking it could have been more epic but I guess after having read the LN and seeing how this series has panned out from the beginning, it goes to show that expectations are a bitch. Oh well, 6 more episodes to go and seeing how this ends, I'm hoping if they do create another season that it'd be picked up by another studio or a different director(like say bones as the studio and Shinichiro Watanabe on the storyboard). :)

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This show has taught me that online games are serious business.


it is if your a ninja, chinese farmer, or a guild leader who kicks you for missing 1 raid
Nov 10, 2012 1:44 PM

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Amazing episode!
Dies Irae! :)
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Damn. I didnt expect Kirito to transform into a monster and just went berserk!

I am kinda not excited on the war that will happen since Kirito isn't needed there really... but I guess we will get to see the other leaders.
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Two things...

1. Kirito has gotten more god mode powers and..

2. Why are they making the in-game events and backstabs sound so dire? Like there's really no RL consequences in the game like in SAO so it just seems overly dramatic.. and lmao @ having something like a paralysing arrow like that in the game, I mean how long would something like that really last in a game?
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Sidetracked. I knew it.
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skudoops said:
Two things...

1. Kirito has gotten another god mode power..

2. Why are they making the in-game events and backstabs sound so dire? Like there's really no RL consequences in the game like in SAO so it just seems overly dramatic.. and lmao @ having something like a paralysing arrow like that in the game, I mean how long would something like that really last in a game?


1. no not really. his stats are already nearly maxed out from the SAO character transfer

2. if it is something you enjoy why not take it a bit more seriously? things can be fun in this instance with out the herp derp of online play.
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skudoops said:
Two things...


2. Why are they making the in-game events and backstabs sound so dire? Like there's really no RL consequences in the game like in SAO so it just seems overly dramatic.. and lmao @ having something like a paralysing arrow like that in the game, I mean how long would something like that really last in a game?


Considering the end game content of this game is bad game design, causing a huge imbalance between the races, its somewhat serious. And if you played MMOs such as WoW, some of the higher up guilds are very serious about the content, i know it first hand :P.
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ALO is actually much, much better than SAO. This game's dynamic duo (Kirito/Leafa) is also way more likeable than Kirito/Asuna. Maybe I'll consider bumping my score up. Maybe.

But what the fuck, Kirito; why in God's name did you bite her fingers...

And I still don't get why Sugu hasn't figured it out that Kirito is her brother. Wouldn't she know from news or other sources (like Sugou did) that "Kirito" was the name used by Kirigaya Kazuto, the guy who beat SAO?
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And I still don't get why Sugu hasn't figured it out that Kirito is her brother. Wouldn't she know from news or other sources (like Sugou did) that "Kirito" was the name used by Kirigaya Kazuto, the guy who beat SAO?


It was never publicly displayed that Kirito was the savior of SAO. Only reason why NTR dude knows is because his top admin of ALO(who owns SAO's old server)
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lanfire said:
skudoops said:
Two things...

1. Kirito has gotten another god mode power..

2. Why are they making the in-game events and backstabs sound so dire? Like there's really no RL consequences in the game like in SAO so it just seems overly dramatic.. and lmao @ having something like a paralysing arrow like that in the game, I mean how long would something like that really last in a game?


1. no not really. his stats are already nearly maxed out from the SAO character transfer

2. if it is something you enjoy why not take it a bit more seriously? things can be fun in this instance with out the herp derp of online play.


1. I was referring to the super speed and the OP monster form, unless I'm forgetting the speed in an episode he had neither of those in SAO.

2. I meant they made it sound so dire, I understand taking a game you invest time into more seriously but damn, you swore the guy was doing his backstabbing IRL. Although I've seen enough E-rage to know where you are coming from with this.
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skudoops said:
lanfire said:
skudoops said:
Two things...

1. Kirito has gotten another god mode power..

2. Why are they making the in-game events and backstabs sound so dire? Like there's really no RL consequences in the game like in SAO so it just seems overly dramatic.. and lmao @ having something like a paralysing arrow like that in the game, I mean how long would something like that really last in a game?


1. no not really. his stats are already nearly maxed out from the SAO character transfer

2. if it is something you enjoy why not take it a bit more seriously? things can be fun in this instance with out the herp derp of online play.


1. I was referring to the super speed and the OP monster form, unless I'm forgetting the speed in an episode he had neither of those in SAO.

2. I meant they made it sound so dire, I understand taking a game you invest time into more seriously but damn, you swore the guy was doing his backstabbing IRL. Although I've seen enough E-rage to know where you are coming from with this.


He has always been pretty fast in this series and especially now with using the older nerve gear with the less restrictions on the full drive.

"The spell Kirito casting is an illusion magic that makes a player look like a monster. But the magic is not useful in actual combat. Because the shape depends randomly on the player's combat skills, usually the result is some weak monster, with no change in stats, since most people are aware of this it won't frighten them." - LNv4p215

I guess 2 years trapped in a death game fucks with the psyche a bit.
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skudoops said:
lanfire said:
skudoops said:
Two things...

1. Kirito has gotten another god mode power..

2. Why are they making the in-game events and backstabs sound so dire? Like there's really no RL consequences in the game like in SAO so it just seems overly dramatic.. and lmao @ having something like a paralysing arrow like that in the game, I mean how long would something like that really last in a game?


1. no not really. his stats are already nearly maxed out from the SAO character transfer

2. if it is something you enjoy why not take it a bit more seriously? things can be fun in this instance with out the herp derp of online play.


1. I was referring to the super speed and the OP monster form, unless I'm forgetting the speed in an episode he had neither of those in SAO.

2. I meant they made it sound so dire, I understand taking a game you invest time into more seriously but damn, you swore the guy was doing his backstabbing IRL. Although I've seen enough E-rage to know where you are coming from with this.


He did had that speed when he took out the Salamander guys in Ep 16.
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skudoops said:
lanfire said:
skudoops said:
Two things...

1. Kirito has gotten another god mode power..

2. Why are they making the in-game events and backstabs sound so dire? Like there's really no RL consequences in the game like in SAO so it just seems overly dramatic.. and lmao @ having something like a paralysing arrow like that in the game, I mean how long would something like that really last in a game?


1. no not really. his stats are already nearly maxed out from the SAO character transfer

2. if it is something you enjoy why not take it a bit more seriously? things can be fun in this instance with out the herp derp of online play.


1. I was referring to the super speed and the OP monster form, unless I'm forgetting the speed in an episode he had neither of those in SAO.

2. I meant they made it sound so dire, I understand taking a game you invest time into more seriously but damn, you swore the guy was doing his backstabbing IRL. Although I've seen enough E-rage to know where you are coming from with this.


I'm sure he had his speed in SAO, but the monster form was just a spell in ALO, most likely cosmetic and doesn't increase your stats in anyway.
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and MMO is serious business, really, do you even EVE Online??


I totally EVE Online o/
-watch your 6
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skudoops said:
lanfire said:
skudoops said:
Two things...

1. Kirito has gotten another god mode power..

2. Why are they making the in-game events and backstabs sound so dire? Like there's really no RL consequences in the game like in SAO so it just seems overly dramatic.. and lmao @ having something like a paralysing arrow like that in the game, I mean how long would something like that really last in a game?


1. no not really. his stats are already nearly maxed out from the SAO character transfer

2. if it is something you enjoy why not take it a bit more seriously? things can be fun in this instance with out the herp derp of online play.


1. I was referring to the super speed and the OP monster form, unless I'm forgetting the speed in an episode he had neither of those in SAO.

2. I meant they made it sound so dire, I understand taking a game you invest time into more seriously but damn, you swore the guy was doing his backstabbing IRL. Although I've seen enough E-rage to know where you are coming from with this.

He did have that speed in SAO just like Asuna and other front liners did..At least in the LN.In the Ln it is even stated that the animation from the system couldnt keep up with them so you could only see a blur.
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The speed is explained in the novel. It's not based on skills or stats. It should be fine if I post it since it isn't spoiling anything.

Vol 3, Ch 2. said:

In this world, only one thing controls how fast you can move: the speed at which your brain receives signals from the «Full Dive» system and reacts to them. Amusphere sends signals to the brain's cognitive faculties, then the brain processes these signals and produces signals which control the motor functions of the body. These signals are then intercepted by the Amusphere system. The faster a player's brain is able to do this, the faster the player can move in the game. Innate reflexes are one of the things that determine how fast this happens but the speed is also improved with experience, so the longer one plays the faster they can move.
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lanfire said:
KaiKatsuya said:

and MMO is serious business, really, do you even EVE Online??


I totally EVE Online o/
-watch your 6

that's some hardcore stuff right there those EVE players are as serious as you can get lol



was funny watching him go all Nom nom in his big beast mode,illusions weak? yeah i guess in combat but vs players i think it would be quite powerful look at mesmers in gw2 :P.
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Oh Kirito,Kirito... You should target the healers(and other cloth users) first and not try bash the plate users. This way you might not need to use your "DW mode"^^ episode gets 3/5


If you're going to follow traditional mmorpg tactic, then he will never get close to the healer if all 6 players alternate between their pull / knock-back skills =p lets not forget their binding and immoblizing skills. within common 30s cool-down, with 6 people is at least 5s difference if it's only one skills. For a pvp focus game, they will most likely have 2-3 type of similar skill. It doesn't have to be high level, they can be low level as utility skills too =)

The best he can move for is movement skills and hope the other team mess up on using the wrong skill or reacting too slowly. This is also considering the fact that there is no collision detection between players to break LoS as well.

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My theory on the illusion skills is that the attacks are done by kirito sword, but you don't see his body. like using the hand to attack from the would be a horizontal slash, and a bite is a vertical slash. As for how he carry the other players, is by giving off the illusion that they are being lifted, but are probably in fact still standing on the ground.

Of course, their illusion can be like Mesmir class in GW2 where the illusion themselves have physical bodies and can do damage. heh, I play this class using sword & pistol. I love to use my illusion as suicide bombers in burst amounts of if they are about to die, while my phantasm help diss damage =) I haven't GW2 in a long time, focus on studying. If I want to play game for a break, I play torchlight 2 or cs:go for 30mins or so ^^; definitely not enough time for mmorpg, elsewise I want to try out Raiderz from PerfectWorld.
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Paul said:
The speed is explained in the novel. It's not based on skills or stats. It should be fine if I post it since it isn't spoiling anything.

Vol 3, Ch 2. said:

In this world, only one thing controls how fast you can move: the speed at which your brain receives signals from the «Full Dive» system and reacts to them. Amusphere sends signals to the brain's cognitive faculties, then the brain processes these signals and produces signals which control the motor functions of the body. These signals are then intercepted by the Amusphere system. The faster a player's brain is able to do this, the faster the player can move in the game. Innate reflexes are one of the things that determine how fast this happens but the speed is also improved with experience, so the longer one plays the faster they can move.


Don't forget since he is using the first generation of the VR tech the NerveGear there are less restrictions with the interaction of the signals to his brain so that gives him another edge over the ALO players aside from his 2 years in SAO.

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lanfire said:
KaiKatsuya said:

and MMO is serious business, really, do you even EVE Online??


I totally EVE Online o/
-watch your 6

that's some hardcore stuff right there those EVE players are as serious as you can get lol


Ya know for as crazy as it gets sometimes. It has been some of the most crazy wildly amusing fun in a game I have played!
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Note that Kirito and Asuna is the fastest player in SAO. So that end scene wasn't really something strange. Lyfa is one of the fastest Slyphs in flying and Kirito is more faster than him. That's at least what I recall in the novel.

The monster thingy was just an illusion skill used by the Spriggans. It's not really overpowered since it's just an illusion. Yui told Kirito to memorize that certain skill since it seems that it will be useful.

About the episode, I didn't like how they didn't explain how the stuff works AGAIN. Like for example, the classes. I know that it's not really important but they used it in a conversation in this episode so some people is confused. But it was still a nice episode, still a better adaptation than SAO arc. Btw 6 episodes left, I guess they are going to skip the
Too bad I wanna watch that part. I hope they at least make it as an OVA if they are not going to animate it.

Next episode will be epic!! Can't wait!!

P.S I hate the new discussion rule >.<
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heh, too hardcore for me, I think I will stick to D&D (P&P) instead =p
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Paul said:
The speed is explained in the novel. It's not based on skills or stats. It should be fine if I post it since it isn't spoiling anything.

Vol 3, Ch 2. said:

In this world, only one thing controls how fast you can move: the speed at which your brain receives signals from the «Full Dive» system and reacts to them. Amusphere sends signals to the brain's cognitive faculties, then the brain processes these signals and produces signals which control the motor functions of the body. These signals are then intercepted by the Amusphere system. The faster a player's brain is able to do this, the faster the player can move in the game. Innate reflexes are one of the things that determine how fast this happens but the speed is also improved with experience, so the longer one plays the faster they can move.

For Kirito, SAO's skills are his "innate reflexes".His speed,sword skills,reaction time are just like they were during his final moments in SAO.
To put it more correctly Kirito's skills in ALO isnt his status from SAO but his playing time of 2 constant years.
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Oh man, betrayal? Sounds similar to those scams from Eve Online.
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Damn looks like War is going to break out soon, those Salamander duds are going to bust in that party uninvited.

Looking forward to the next one.
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If you enjoy this episode, you are going to enjoy the next episode though I can see troller hating on the upcoming fan service scene XD

But yea, this arc was done far better than SAO arc. I am actually enjoying the series now, unlike before. Well I'm off to rewatch Ixion Saga DT, sadly not as funny as Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou, but it starts off with MC playing online game as well.
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This anime tends to leave a lot of shit out, judging by the posts.
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If you enjoy this episode, you are going to enjoy the next episode though I can see troller hating on the upcoming fan service scene XD

But yea, this arc was done far better than SAO arc. I am actually enjoying the series now, unlike before. Well I'm off to rewatch Ixion Saga DT, sadly not as funny as Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou, but it starts off with MC playing online game as well.

Fanservice?You mean
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This anime tends to leave a lot of shit out, judging by the posts.
Explanations/info dumps.And many fights and especially this one were more "hardcore" in the LN.Or at least that's how we imagined it.
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so... Kirito is cheating again isn't he?
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so... Kirito is cheating again isn't he?


Nop, every Spriggan have that skill, but unless they're overpowered like Kirito (2 year worth of... GRIND), they won't become something like that.
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winter_mint said:
so... Kirito is cheating again isn't he?


Nop, every Spriggan have that skill, but unless they're overpowered like Kirito (2 year worth of... GRIND), they won't become something like that.


Well technically, he's been 'cheating' ever since he started ALO.
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so... Kirito is cheating again isn't he?


Nop, every Spriggan have that skill, but unless they're overpowered like Kirito (2 year worth of... GRIND), they won't become something like that.


His years of experience in VRMMORPG doesn't really have anything to do with that skill. ( If you're referring to the illusion magic )
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kirito likes to cheat in his video games doesnt he.
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The Fight By Scoops


  1. Kirito-(kun) charges in, get knocked back, fireballs hits him in the face. Not very effective.
  2. Kirito decides to develep this tactic: Kirito screams a little bit more this time and charges in the exact same way, getting hit by the fireballs yet again. Still not very effective
  3. Kirito notice that is might not be the screaming that is the issue here. Kirito decides to scream even more, just in case, as he charges in. This time he tries to separate the shields with his hand and sword(for some fucking weird reason). Obviously, this doesn't work. But lucky, Lyfa is there to block the fireballs this time.
  4. Kirto realize that it's time for a big change of plan, and chants his spell.
  5. Kirito become a big ass shit monster and fucks everything up.


The End

Hope you enjoyed it.
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1. I was referring to the super speed and the OP monster form, unless I'm forgetting the speed in an episode he had neither of those in SAO.


All Spriggans have that speed skill since the beginning, it's just Kirito is abnormally faster because of his stats and his strong reflexes and movement from his real life experiences and traits. As well as that illusion magic that turned him to a monster from his imagination, the illusion shapes by how strong the imagination of the caster is.
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He did had that speed when he took out the Salamander guys in Ep 16.
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EVE is an extreme but I can see your point either way.

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The speed is explained in the novel. It's not based on skills or stats. It should be fine if I post it since it isn't spoiling anything.

Vol 3, Ch 2. said:

In this world, only one thing controls how fast you can move: the speed at which your brain receives signals from the «Full Dive» system and reacts to them. Amusphere sends signals to the brain's cognitive faculties, then the brain processes these signals and produces signals which control the motor functions of the body. These signals are then intercepted by the Amusphere system. The faster a player's brain is able to do this, the faster the player can move in the game. Innate reflexes are one of the things that determine how fast this happens but the speed is also improved with experience, so the longer one plays the faster they can move.


To be honest, they should have found a way to explain these things in the anime. Maybe like Kirito reading it in a manual or something but for a non LN reader like myself you can see how it looks like these things are just happening.
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Well, that's the problem with this whole adaptation. They ain't explaining shit.
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