starclaws said: Vagabond said: KrylonBlue said: Kira01 said: Amazing! 1. As long as people continue their effort into the future, the change will be certain. 2. If people thinks the election is over and everything will return to the everyday thing, the financial crisis may continue to look unfortunate 3. Hopefully, the Obama Administration will fix the global financial crisis, 4. end the war, 5. and start a new era of world peace!!! 1.Wishful thinking. 2.I didn't know the election caused the financial crisis, news to me. 3.I believe you mean China. Obama can't do anything. 4.You mean The Escalation of the Afghanistan war, Obama isn't ending anything. 5.LOL Ha! I love it. Afghanistan completely evaded me. Forgot all about that one. Easy to forget with the news only focused on elections. And its no where near a war... Its an occupied area and continued terrorist bombings. India was just bombed but you won't hear about that because US troops werent killed. Terrorists are everywhere. Should we invade India next? We could eat their cows. And bring down our food costs. if you invade india they will most likey invade you back, plus they have nukes so its a no go . your only allowed to invade smaller weaker countries |
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starclaws said: You said so yourself with the change part. If you don't know what the changes or stances are. Go read/watch news... Watch/read debates... Newspapers/Radio Anything. Its EVERYWHERE. And I understand that you only used Iran as an example... I was just opinionated in that I think other countries are more important. That's all. OH! I apologize. We're arguing two separate things. I personally know what some of what he plans to "change". I merely meant that I hear people arguing for change who are going on nothing but the sake of the word. I've seen more completely uninformed, stupid voters this year than I ever have on anything ever. Be it local, state, or national level affairs. Maybe they've always been there and it's always been this way, but this time they seem to voice out a hell of a lot more from both parties. |
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| Congratulations to Sen., now President, Obama from Mexico. I hope this means better relationship between our countries (even with our lame, lame president) |
kei-clone said: again, political debates can go in another thread kthx. (and not one that's basically troll/lockbait) srsly. I really don't want to debate right now. I am in a happy place. :D |
kirby said: Congratulations to Sen., now President, Obama from Mexico. I hope this means better relationship between our countries (even with our lame, lame president) Well, I'll assure you, we can definitely commiserate with having a lame president... ... although I am pointing no fingers of course..... >.< Edit for poor spelling |
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starclaws said: And its no where near a war... Its an occupied area and continued terrorist bombings. The Afghanistan war never officially ended. The Iraq war in the other was embarrassingly "ended" by Bush. Terrorists are everywhere. Thanks for pointing that out. Should we invade India next? We could eat their cows. And bring down our food costs. I believe India is an ally to America. Also Cows in india are considered sacred |
Vagabond said: starclaws said: You said so yourself with the change part. If you don't know what the changes or stances are. Go read/watch news... Watch/read debates... Newspapers/Radio Anything. Its EVERYWHERE. And I understand that you only used Iran as an example... I was just opinionated in that I think other countries are more important. That's all. OH! I apologize. We're arguing two separate things. I personally know what some of what he plans to "change". I merely meant that I hear people arguing for change who are going on nothing but the sake of the word. I've seen more completely uninformed, stupid voters this year than I ever have on anything ever. Be it local, state, or national level affairs. Maybe they've always been there and it's always been this way, but this time they seem to voice out a hell of a lot more from both parties. Ah. Yup, ignorance is everywhere. Democrats found the word "change" as a hot word and went with it ;p Republicans kinda used Palin and "drill baby drill" ... Basically anything that looked good on a sign. BTW clone moderator dude guy person... This is political election 'aftermath' and all the discussion of REAL news we missed because news stations are making tons of money on commercials because everyone is watching the news for elections. We are still on topic. |
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| I'm proud to have been a part of this. This was my first time voting and I am happy with the results. It was more obvious and less exciting compared the last election, but oh well. windy said: I think McCain's concession speech was extremely well written and was happy when he asked the people booing Obama to stop. I agree. Though, sadly, I listened to his speech more than Obama's. I need sleep -_- |
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KrylonBlue said: I believe India is an ally to America. Also Cows in india are considered sacred Oil is sacred to Iraq ;p And i'd hardly call it a war... a war is vs. states or nations. I still don't consider 'Terrorism' a state or nation. Bush's speeches to call it a war and blind us into thinking we need to occupy is pointless Oh and Senate STILL CANT DECIDE!??!?! Its... What? like 1:30 there? |
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starclaws said: BTW clone moderator dude guy person... This is political election 'aftermath' and all the discussion of REAL news we missed because news stations are making tons of money on commercials because everyone is watching the news for elections. We are still on topic. btw guy, I also happened to start this thread and set the topic to what is happening after the election. It's really not too hard for you to start a new topic now if you really wanted to talk about that stuff, i'm not stopping you. |
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Vagabond said: Chavez said: Oh well, we'll see what happens. I'd be annoyed by people if they would whine about high taxes now though. Prepare to be annoyed. People like to whine no matter how good or bad they have it. Sadly enough you're right. |
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| Damn it, Moore didn't pull a surprise victory. There goes my bets, down the drain. Still, possibly the best outcome in a looooong time. Abideth the ensuing chaos. Oh, and the Obama-is-a-socialist accusations are still as hilariously ignorant as ever. |
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Jono said: ukonkivi said: Though I'm sort of more of a Himmler guy myself I'm curious to know what this means exactly Well the other topic in which this was a responses to brought up both communism and nazism. And before I could respond with that it was too late because the topic had been locked. But basically, as Neo-Pagan, Pre-Christian Europe lover, he stood for more of the traditions that I do that Hitler, who was more of an opportunist. You don't get to see too Conservatives in America who espouse anything other than Christianity. And here we get a person as fascist as it gets, whom while created many troubles for the world, being a Nazi of course, if he were in power, would have I think created a better Germany for Neo-Pagans. And it's always nice to see it when something as radical as a Pagan politician Basically like how I like Varg in some ways even though I don't share his views about race. And Savitri Devi. Because other than their racialist views, I agree with a lot of what they have to say. Now unfortunately, because of the Nazis and the politically correct backlash, even the band Kiss had to change their logo in Germany because their logo looked as if it had sig runes in it. Personally, I think Savitri Devi is a more wise, open minded person that the Germans who locked her up. And I must say myself, I'm quite enthralled with Nazi Mysticism. But it's just be being a Neo-Pagan, not a racist. |
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| CHANGE!!!!!!!!! the world really took a change!!!!!!! Finally, we can have an american president that we can trust....^_^ |
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Packie said: we dont know that yet. CHANGE!!!!!!!!! the world really took a change!!!!!!! Finally, we can have an american president that we can trust....^_^ congrats to obama though. just broke down the color barrier even more. glad that we are gonna go through change once again. change is good, and its much needed now, before we go ballistic due to the economy and wage another random war. hopefully obama pulls out the troops right away as what they are doing now is pretty much meaningless. no need to shed more blood and tears. |
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Packie said: CHANGE!!!!!!!!! the world really took a change!!!!!!! Finally, we can have an american president that we can trust....^_^ If that is what you truly believe, then please do not open your eyes. It'll hurt you inevitably. kie_ said: i expected that Obama would win It was quite obvious, everyone is expecting very much from him now. Too much. nihlniisadxhai said: America will go to hell now for this. God Akbar will be very angry. Religion wouldn't be religion if there weren't things that would upset 'the gods'. You should sacrifice something now. ein-bebop said: Frequencity said: I actually was tearing up during his speech. Me too! Wait...you were crying for the future of America, weren't you? OH PLEASE! >_< Is exaggerating your job or just a hobby? |
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| All stupid people are not happy now. I mean come on, it's no big secret that right winged people are averagely more stupid than left winged. I mean, even on this forum, it's so obvious that the couple few which are more intelligent than the rest, which surely include me, are left-winged. Following reason, logic and deduction leads to left-winged, following what your mother told you, intuïtion and believing true what you want to be true leads to right-winged. Though the arrow of implication cannot easily be reversed here. |
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nihlniisadxhai said: All stupid people are not happy now. I mean come on, it's no big secret that right winged people are averagely more stupid than left winged. I mean, even on this forum, it's so obvious that the couple few which are more intelligent than the rest, which surely include me, are left-winged. As peaceful and cooperative as ever I see. ;) |
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ReverseHarem said: i really wish McCain would have won so "the man" could stick it to all the liberal, hippie, idealist college students. and also so i could've slept in peace without all the liberal, hippie, idealist college students screaming about obama-rama and "CHANGE". i'm for change... for a change of last night's election results. You didn't vote what a hypocrite. |
OranSolus said: I have no intention to deny facts because people are offended, truth indeed can hurt. It's long been a fact by scientific standard that people who identify as left winged are simply more intelligent than people who identify as right winged. This is reproducible in all countries and systems. It's also a scientific fact that white people are averagely than black people, and Asians even more. Live with it.nihlniisadxhai said: All stupid people are not happy now. I mean come on, it's no big secret that right winged people are averagely more stupid than left winged. I mean, even on this forum, it's so obvious that the couple few which are more intelligent than the rest, which surely include me, are left-winged. As peaceful and cooperative as ever I see. ;) But when people start to deny the holocaust (scientific fact) with shaky logic, they are frowned upon, not even because they deny a scientific fact, because they deny some-thing people want to be true. Jews, and every-one getting angry when people deny the holocaust want the holocaust to have happened. Just like that certain people like Rednecks want terrorism to be a threat. However, strangely enough, a lot of Jews getting angry at people denying the holocaust also deny the occurrence of evolution which is even more harder a scientific fact. And that can be more forgiven apparently. That the leader of Iran denies the holocaust is absurd by the same people whose own leader denies fucking evolution. Get real. The world is not how people want it to be, some things are simply scientific facts that people don't want to be that way. Live with it, there is evolution, the world isn't created intelligently by some designer so that we can all be equal. I'm more intelligent than you. And certainly than the one I'm accusing here. I didn't have to do any-thing for it, I was born with it. However I was also born with a chemical imbalance and developed a psychosis and formal thought disorder, that was beyond my control as well. I'm not saying it's good that it works this way, I'm saying it's a simple fact that it works that way, and we cannot change it and denying it because we don't want it to be true is gravely a logical fallacy. |
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Flame_Haze said: Now this is just stupid. Would McCain have won that person did vote? One vote, in one state, would that have given McCain the advantage he needed to win? Of course not. It's easy to give a rigourous logical proof to the statement that voting or not is futile a nd wil not make a difference.ReverseHarem said: i really wish McCain would have won so "the man" could stick it to all the liberal, hippie, idealist college students. and also so i could've slept in peace without all the liberal, hippie, idealist college students screaming about obama-rama and "CHANGE". i'm for change... for a change of last night's election results. You didn't vote what a hypocrite. Your argument is equivalent too. 'You did not water your plants yesterday, you're hypocrite.' |
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nihlniisadxhai said: OranSolus said: I have no intention to deny facts because people are offended, truth indeed can hurt. It's long been a fact by scientific standard that people who identify as left winged are simply more intelligent than people who identify as right winged. This is reproducible in all countries and systems. It's also a scientific fact that white people are averagely than black people, and Asians even more. Live with it.nihlniisadxhai said: All stupid people are not happy now. I mean come on, it's no big secret that right winged people are averagely more stupid than left winged. I mean, even on this forum, it's so obvious that the couple few which are more intelligent than the rest, which surely include me, are left-winged. As peaceful and cooperative as ever I see. ;) But when people start to deny the holocaust (scientific fact) with shaky logic, they are frowned upon, not even because they deny a scientific fact, because they deny some-thing people want to be true. Jews, and every-one getting angry when people deny the holocaust want the holocaust to have happened. Just like that certain people like Rednecks want terrorism to be a threat. However, strangely enough, a lot of Jews getting angry at people denying the holocaust also deny the occurrence of evolution which is even more harder a scientific fact. And that can be more forgiven apparently. That the leader of Iran denies the holocaust is absurd by the same people whose own leader denies fucking evolution. Get real. The world is not how people want it to be, some things are simply scientific facts that people don't want to be that way. Live with it, there is evolution, the world isn't created intelligently by some designer so that we can all be equal. I'm more intelligent than you. And certainly than the one I'm accusing here. I didn't have to do any-thing for it, I was born with it. However I was also born with a chemical imbalance and developed a psychosis and formal thought disorder, that was beyond my control as well. I'm not saying it's good that it works this way, I'm saying it's a simple fact that it works that way, and we cannot change it and denying it because we don't want it to be true is gravely a logical fallacy. Easy old chap, I wasn't starting a war. I just think it's funny. However, not all right wing people are idiots. My father supports the conservatives here in the UK and he is very intelligent. Much more so than your average person. I also see you haven't grown tired of declaring your intelligence. You are quite an interesting fellow. Allow me this brief aside: Any particular reason for the name change? |
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nihlniisadxhai said: All stupid people are not happy now. I mean come on, it's no big secret that right winged people are averagely more stupid than left winged. I mean, even on this forum, it's so obvious that the couple few which are more intelligent than the rest, which surely include me, are left-winged. Following reason, logic and deduction leads to left-winged, following what your mother told you, intuïtion and believing true what you want to be true leads to right-winged. Though the arrow of implication cannot easily be reversed here. I couldn't disagree more. Both sides are needed in important decisions. Besides, it's retarded when people use right- or left orientation in political ideas to measure one's intelligence. Following your statement, you have to be 'right winged'. |
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OranSolus said: nihlniisadxhai said: OranSolus said: I have no intention to deny facts because people are offended, truth indeed can hurt. It's long been a fact by scientific standard that people who identify as left winged are simply more intelligent than people who identify as right winged. This is reproducible in all countries and systems. It's also a scientific fact that white people are averagely than black people, and Asians even more. Live with it.nihlniisadxhai said: All stupid people are not happy now. I mean come on, it's no big secret that right winged people are averagely more stupid than left winged. I mean, even on this forum, it's so obvious that the couple few which are more intelligent than the rest, which surely include me, are left-winged. As peaceful and cooperative as ever I see. ;) But when people start to deny the holocaust (scientific fact) with shaky logic, they are frowned upon, not even because they deny a scientific fact, because they deny some-thing people want to be true. Jews, and every-one getting angry when people deny the holocaust want the holocaust to have happened. Just like that certain people like Rednecks want terrorism to be a threat. However, strangely enough, a lot of Jews getting angry at people denying the holocaust also deny the occurrence of evolution which is even more harder a scientific fact. And that can be more forgiven apparently. That the leader of Iran denies the holocaust is absurd by the same people whose own leader denies fucking evolution. Get real. The world is not how people want it to be, some things are simply scientific facts that people don't want to be that way. Live with it, there is evolution, the world isn't created intelligently by some designer so that we can all be equal. I'm more intelligent than you. And certainly than the one I'm accusing here. I didn't have to do any-thing for it, I was born with it. However I was also born with a chemical imbalance and developed a psychosis and formal thought disorder, that was beyond my control as well. I'm not saying it's good that it works this way, I'm saying it's a simple fact that it works that way, and we cannot change it and denying it because we don't want it to be true is gravely a logical fallacy. Easy old chap, I wasn't starting a war. I just think it's funny. However, not all right wing people are idiots. My father supports the conservatives here in the UK and he is very intelligent. Much more so than your average person. I also see you haven't grown tired of declaring your intelligence. You are quite an interesting fellow. Allow me this brief aside: Any particular reason for the name change? Chavez said: I hope this is enough for both of you, if not, go learn some statistics, start with the term 'correlation', for fucks sake... this is elementary statistics thatnihlniisadxhai said: All stupid people are not happy now. I mean come on, it's no big secret that right winged people are averagely more stupid than left winged. I mean, even on this forum, it's so obvious that the couple few which are more intelligent than the rest, which surely include me, are left-winged. Following reason, logic and deduction leads to left-winged, following what your mother told you, intuïtion and believing true what you want to be true leads to right-winged. Though the arrow of implication cannot easily be reversed here. I couldn't disagree more. Both sides are needed in important decisions. Besides, it's retarded when people use right- or left orientation in political ideas to measure one's intelligence. Following your statement, you have to be 'right winged'. forall x,y ((x cor y) -> (y -> x)) is a very bad logical fallacy. You don't even need to have taken statistics to understand that that is a logical fallacy, that's a kiddie step in logic. Way for supporting (not proving) my point Chavez. The name change has no real reason. Edit: Oransolus, your argument is equivalent to: 'Cigarettes aren't cancerous because my grandfather smoked and became 95 years old.' in formal structure by the way. |
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nihlniisadxhai said: I hope this is enough for both of you, if not, go learn some statistics, start with the term 'correlation', for fucks sake... this is elementary statistics that forall x,y ((x cor y) -> (y -> x)) is a very bad logical fallacy. You don't even need to have taken statistics to understand that that is a logical fallacy, that's a kiddie step in logic. Way for supporting (not proving) my point Chavez. The name change has no real reason. That only makes it less of an accusation, you're still throwing down a stereotype there. |
Chavez said: It's stating a scientific fact. And like I said, when people don't want scientific facts to not be true, then they become accusations. Face it, it's long ago been demonstrated as much as that the holocaust is true and evolution occurs that there is genetic difference in intelligence in race which is reproducible. And in political orientation, musical taste, taste in potential partner and so forth.nihlniisadxhai said: I hope this is enough for both of you, if not, go learn some statistics, start with the term 'correlation', for fucks sake... this is elementary statistics that forall x,y ((x cor y) -> (y -> x)) is a very bad logical fallacy. You don't even need to have taken statistics to understand that that is a logical fallacy, that's a kiddie step in logic. Way for supporting (not proving) my point Chavez. The name change has no real reason. That only makes it less of an accusation, you're still throwing down a stereotype there. People don't want this to be true, but it's simply true. In fact, it would be extremely strange if the correlation didn't go one way or the other. You'd have an equilibrium-unstable complex system then, that's extremely rare. An equivalent situation is dropping a cone from a building and having it fall down after spinning and turning precisely so so that it falls on its sharp end and just remains balanced after that. There is bound to be a correlation one way or the other. The cone is bound to fall in one direction or the other. The difference is that people have no political sentiment with the cone falling a specific way or simply remaining balanced. And here they have, Lady Science is cold and blind does not take pardons for your human desires of how you want the world to be. |
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