| Rider >>>>>>> Archer > Saber > Lancer > Berserker > Caster >>>>>> Assassin. Rider in the first place by far since he is directly the embodiment of awesomeness, and Berserker suffered of little to no development, that's the reason he ranks 5th, and that in itself is one of the minor flaws this series has. |
-Shuda- said: While we're at it, Other women, no loli or servant (Rin and Saber): Natalia > Irisviel > Aoi > Maiya > Shirley > Sola Natalia>Sola>Iri>Maiya>Shirley>Every loli>Aoi wheelchair version>>>>>>>>>>>Aoi |
ssjokg said: Lol, I actually have to agree with you on the Aoi part. She actually seemed more "motherly" in her dreams than she truly was in the whole series.-Shuda- said: While we're at it, Other women, no loli or servant (Rin and Saber): Natalia > Irisviel > Aoi > Maiya > Shirley > Sola Natalia>Sola>Iri>Maiya>Shirley>Every loli>Aoi wheelchair version>>>>>>>>>>>Aoi |
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| Servant: Rider Archer(Gilgamesh) Saber Lancer Berserker Caster Assassin Master: Kiritsugu Kariya Waver Kirei Tokiomi Kayneth Ryuunosuke |
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| Servants: [LN] 1. Archer (Gil) 2. Rider 3. Saber 4. Berserker 5. Lancer 6. Assassin 7. Caster [Anime] 1. Archer (Gil) 2. Rider/Saber 3. Lancer 4. Berserker 5. Caster/Assassin 1st choice is obvious. I originally had Rider above Saber, but my attachment to Saber grew again after watching the anime. So I put them both on par with each other. I switched Lancer and Berserker's spots after the anime too. The anime made Lancer more interesting than he seemed in the LN. But they're both pretty close. I originally had Caster all the way down, but the anime has made him more flashy and interesting as a character for me. So I actually like him a little more than I originally did when reading the LN. Still, I can't forgive him for his despicable acts. Assassin, on the other hand, was the least developed and interesting character. I was going to put Assassin below Caster after watching the anime, but I have to give props to Assassin for the nice little dance performance back in episode 2 xD Masters: [LN] 1. Waver 2. Kariya 3. Kiritsugu 4. Kirei 5. Kayneth 6. Tokiomi 7. Ryuunosuke [Anime] 1. Waver 2. Kiritsugu/Kirei 3. Kariya 4. Kayneth/Tokiomi 5. Ryuunosuke Don't feel like commenting much on the masters. Though I admit Kirei's laugh in the last episode was quite epic. Props to Kirei's seiyuu for doing an excellent job. *Edit: Tbh I felt less for the masters than I did in the LN. But I guess it can't be helped since the anime cant flesh out the characters entirely. Got tempted by Thess's comment to list favorite master/servant teams: -Rider & Waver -Saber & Irisviel -Kirei & Gil Will probably add more later if I can think of any additional ones. |
sallym613Jun 30, 2012 12:29 PM
| Servants: LN 1. Rider 2. Saber 3. Berserker 4. Archer 5. Lancer 6. Caster 7. Assassin Anime 1. Rider 2. Saber 3. Archer 4. Caster 5. Lancer 6. Berserker 7. Assassin Masters: LN 1. Kariya 2. Kirei 3. Kiritsugu 4. Waver 5. Ryuu 6. Kanyeth 7. Tokiomi Anime 1. Kirei 2. Kiritsugu 3. Waver 4. Ryuu 5. Kariya (He's such a joke in the anime) 6. Kanyeth 7. Tokiomi |
| 1. Archer - unmatchable swag. Arrogant as he may be, he demonstrates he, too, is honorable at times. 2. Rider - he's the perfect compromise between the arrogant Archer and idealistic Saber 3. Lancer - the match up between him and his master is just so unfortunate. It's hard not to feel sorry for him. 4. Caster - disagree with his morals you may, but he was looking for a good time, and his long lost love interest. 5. Saber - she's just...there. 6. Berserker - we never really got to know him. 7. Assassin - what did he do, again? |
| might as well join in now that i have finished Fate/Zero Lancer>Saber=Archer>Berserker>Rider>Assassin>Caster and for masters Ryuunoske>Waver>Kariya>Kiritsugu>Kirei>Tokiomi>Kayneth |
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| Taking into account novels too. Servants: Rider>>>Archer>Saber> Lancer = Caster = Berserker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assassin. Masters: Kirei>>>>>Waver = Kariya> Ryuunosuke >> Kiritsugu = Kayneth >>>>> Tokiomi. Now Master/Servant teams: 1) Rider and Waver. Most enjoyable to watch on screen with their chemistry and ongoing development. 2) Kirei and Gilgamesh. YUETSU. 3) Caster and Uryuu. Entertaining pair of psychos. Made for each others. 4) Saber and Irisviel. They were so d'awwww in their lady/knight dynamics. 5) Kayneth, Sola and Lancer. I liked their tragic triangle. It made them interesting. 6) Tokiomi and Gilgamesh. The only noteworthy is how he sucked up at Gil and he hated him for it. Hilarious. 7 & 8) Kiritsugu and Saber + Kirei and Assassin: "..." EDIT: 9) Kariya and Berserker: I forgot about it because it's so bad due to Berserker rape-blood drink and awful pain that cripples the guy. |
ThessJun 28, 2012 11:52 AM
| Caster > Lancer/Rider >>> Saber/Berserker/Archer> Assassin. |
| Servants: Lancer > Rider > Saber > Berserker > Archer > Caster > Assassin Masters: Kirei > Kariya > Waver > Kiritsugu > Tokiomi > Kayneth > Ryuunosuke |
| Servants: Archer>Rider>Berserker>Lancer>Caster>Assassin Zayd*>>>>>>>>>>Saber *In series-Assassin can't be ranked, they didn't get to do anything. They're just there. Masters: Waver>Kiritsugu>Tokiomi>Kirei>Kayneth>Kariya>Ryuunosuke |
| Saber Lancer Rider Beserker Assassin Archer (too much of a jerk) Caster |
| 1.Saber 2.Rider 3.Lancer 4.Archer 5.Berserker 6.Caster 7,Assassin |
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| Saber > Berserker > Archer > Lancer > Rider > Caster > Assassin |
| "You watch too much." "I don't watch enough."  |
| Well, I feel the need to do this again now that I`ve officially completed it. -- Servants: Rider >= Saber > Archer > Lancer > Berserker > Caster > Assassin -- Masters: Emiya Kiritsugu > Waver > Kotomine > Tokiomi > Kariya > Ryunosuke > Kayneth |
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| Servants: Rider Archer Saber Lancer Caster Berserker Masters (Might as well...): Waver = Kariya = Kiritsugu Kirei Ryuunosuke Tokiomi Kayneth |
Soge_king999Aug 5, 2012 8:48 PM
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| Servants: Saber Rider Archer Lancer Caster Berserker Assassin Masters: Kiritsugu Kotomine Tokiomi Waver Kariya Kayneth Ryuunosuke |
| Servants: Saber Archer Rider Lancer Berserker Assassin Caster Masters: Kiritsugu Kotomine Tokiomi Waver Kariya Kayneth Ryuunosuke( This guy is crazy) lol |
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| Servants Saber Gilgamesh Rider Lancer Assassin Caster Masters Kiritsugu Emiya Kotomine Waver Tokiome Kayneth Ryuunosuke |
Asuna_LMNJul 19, 2013 10:05 AM
| Servants:- Berserker Rider Caster Lancer Saber Archer Assassin Masters:- Kiritsugu Kariya Tokiomi Kayneth Ryuunosuke Waver Kirei |
| Rider Berserker Caster Saber Assassins Lancer Archer Kariya Kiritsugu Kirei Ryuunosuke Tohsaka Waver Kayneth |
| Servants: Archer Berserker Lancer Rider Caster Saber Assassin Masters: Waver Kiritsugu Kariya Ryuunosuke Kirei Kayneth Tokiomi |
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HikariJake said: Servants: Saber>Archer>Rider>Lancer>Berserker>Caster>Assassin I loved Saber in F/SN, and I continued to love her in F/Z. To people who don't like Saber because of her views on kingship: That's what this odd thing called CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT is for :P That she had char development doesnt mean that she will become well liked because of that.And the problem is her wish not her kiingship.SHE is the one that has problems with her kingship. She had Rider and Kiritsugu telling her why she was wrong in FZ(+Gil laughing at her) and Lancelot telling her that she did well as a king.Yet the one that changed her was Shirou because of LOVE. So we had 1 king,her master and her best..no THE BEST knight telling her off but she only heard the teenager she fall in love with.... |
| they were all lame,why ask? but If I had to choose one,I would choose Rider. |
| Interesting question, I think the servant that I "liked" the most would have to be rider; this would be due to him just being a dynamic character. If I was to say which servant's screen time I enjoyed the most, it would have to be caster. When I saw the first scene with caster-- which I didn't expect at all-- his ability to make me go, "What the fuck?" piqued my interests. The things he did were often more frightening then what most horror anime throw around. Add this too his inane speeches and the way his master and he interacted; he was a pure pleasure to watch. Just because Gille de Rais was my favorite, doesn't mean that I didn't want him to be killed though. He was just an enjoyable antagonist. |
aLooser said: The things he did were often more frightening then what most horror anime throw around. Add this too his inane speeches and the way his master and he interacted; he was a pure pleasure to watch. Just because Gille de Rais was my favorite, doesn't mean that I didn't want him to be killed though. He was just an enjoyable antagonist. Caster Team was indeed interesting and hell we will probably never see a Master and Servant bond like theirs ever again(Maybe if the Assassin Jack the Ripper and her Master from FAte/Apocrypha get more focus in the full LN).This has nothing to do with liking their actions. |
| Servants: 1.Saber(Love the suit and her) 2.Berserker(Just badass) 3.Archer(...He finally wore his armor instead of UBW) 4.Rider(Charisma but thats all. MEH) 5.Lancer(Cool, but not as cool a chu chuchulain imo) 6.Caster (... love his energy) 7.Assassin(....Doesn't exist) Masters: 1.Kiritsugu(*claps* for backstory) 2.Kirei( + points for not getting stabbed, swallowed, etc just shot.) 3.Waver(One of the less cruel masters, badass later on ;)) 4.Kariya(GOD SAVE THE LITTLE GIRL...! D:) 5.Tokiomi(Boring) 6.Ruunosuki(... Like Caster ^^.) 7.Kayneth(So blunt |
machokanaJun 13, 2014 10:20 AM
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ssjokg said: aLooser said: The things he did were often more frightening then what most horror anime throw around. Add this too his inane speeches and the way his master and he interacted; he was a pure pleasure to watch. Just because Gille de Rais was my favorite, doesn't mean that I didn't want him to be killed though. He was just an enjoyable antagonist. Caster Team was indeed interesting and hell we will probably never see a Master and Servant bond like theirs ever again(Maybe if the Assassin Jack the Ripper and her Master from FAte/Apocrypha get more focus in the full LN).This has nothing to do with liking their actions. Exactly! You, my friend "get it". Just because you don't agree with someone's actions doesn't mean you can't find them interesting. That combo was the definition of interesting. |
| How is Saber and Lancer any different from Berserker?Also, you confuse honor with hypocrisy. Kiristugu is by far the least skilled between the actual magi of the series,Tokiomi,Kirei,Kayneth and him.If Rider hadnt attacked Berserker and Lancer in ep5 he would have revealed his position and most likely suffer defeat. Tokiomi isnt a nice guy, has no noble intentions and isnt respected by anyone.You have pretty much confused Kayneth with Tokiomi. Kirei wanted to find a reason for his birth and a reason to continue leaving and to prove to himself that he is good.How did he kill his father?Are we even watching the same show? He killed Tokiomi so he could take Gilgamesh and win the war, so he could find his wish. Tokiomi on the other hand caused an entire family to be destroyed, along with the one man that cared for that family more than Tokiomi ever did, all for the most unoriginal and dubious goal in history of magi. |
| Remind me what part of killing is chivalry.And you are missing the point.Both Lancer and Saber had no development except during their deaths exactly like Berserker. If Kiritsugu had fired during ep 5,Kayneth wouldnt even be hurt thanks to the Volumen Hydragyrum.He defeated Kayneth after laying traps everywhere in the castle he was familiar with, against an opponent he had studied, while Kayneth had none of that.Oh yeah he even survived Kiritsugu's bombing some days ago. His battle with Kirei was a draw.And he only survived thanks to powers that werent his own aka AVALON.Kirei killed Kiritsugu first with a single punch. Assassin wouldnt even ffeel the bullets and would kill Maiya and proceed to attack Kiritsugu and/or Iri,while Berserker is still attacking a wounded Saber ,who couldnt fight against him even when she was at top form, and also has to worry about Lancer whose Master would survive Kiritsugu's attack thanks to Volumen Hydragyrum.Bye bye Team Saber. Tokiomi gave his daughter to somebody he knew would torture and poison her to get her "stronger".All not for her but so that his family can be even more well known.A big hypocrite that even makes up reasons to prove himself right. Kayneth was the bad teacher of Waver and didnt seem to be an ass to any other student.He is good enough to abandon the war in order to save a woman that NEVER loved him.That he was angry at Lancer and Kiritsugu and that he ridiculed Waver doesnt make him evil. It's so easy to see who is evil and who isnt in less than a sec. Kirei didnt know he wanted destruction until after the end of the war.Yes he didnt care,how does that make him the killer(oh you edited your post)?And it was already established that he lack the emotions to feel sorry for him. How does not following the treaty make him evil?Tokiomi was "nice" to Kirei, so?Sakura didnt do anything to him and he sent her to a freak show and that made him as nice guy,but somehow Kirei is evil for betraying Tokiomi? I see that your way of looking at things is all messed up. Tokiomi sent his daughter to get tortured and poisoned, and it's possible he knew about the rape as well,so that in the future, if he failed(thats what I call being self aware), she and Rin could succeed him even if it means killing each other in order to make the family more well known and "respected". Is there something wrong with you?How is this "not all that bad"? |
ssjokgDec 1, 2013 12:37 PM
| There is no right or wrong way to take someone's life.Murder is murder. Pleases provide scenes where both of them were developed,had any epiphany or changed their mindset except during their deaths. Kayneth would be in a battlefield without his nest trick?Makes sense.Kayneth doesnt need to know where it comes from. Assassin,even by being the weakest Servant, is still a Servant and it cant be harmed by normal methods.Kiritsugu says that to Maiya in the same ep. So the traps were all useless?Nope.All of them made Kayneth believe he can blcok everything kiritsugu used on him.That is why the first shot from the Contender passed through. Waking up first from the illusion doesnt make Kiritsugu more skilled than Kirei if that is what you mean.Kirei took everything Kiritsugu thrown at him and still came after him as if nothing was happening. Tokiomi's family along with the Einzberns and the Matou created the Wars.He knows the basics of their training JUST LIKE RIN KNEW IN FSN. With this logic everyone including Iri and Saber is evil since they would kill everyone else to get the grail.It doesnt make sense.Sola wasnt evil.1.She never loved Kayneth even before they summoned Lancer.2.It was because of Lancer's curse that she was such a bitch towards Kayneth.The priest was never neutral if you didnt notice that in episode fucking one and several other as well and Kayneth found out about that. He still wasnt sure that this is what he wanted.And for fucks sake.Aoi wasnt Kariya's sister.That Kirei is a sociopath is the only correct thing you said till now.Oh yeah he was also the one that healed Aoi. So Kiritsugu is evil for betraying Saber by destroying the grail.Kariya is evil for betraying Zouken and running away from home etc etc...Again makes no fucking sense Tokiomi KNEW the way they train themselves.They used to be allies years ago.That Tokiomi was an idiot for not understanding both Gilgamesh and Kirei doesnt make Kirei or ANYONE that would kill him evil. I dont need to misquote you.You havent payed attention to the series,you cant distinguish good from evil and confuse screen time with development. |
| I know what chivalry is.Bullshit some kids use to justify their methods of killing. He is like 10 meters away from where Saber is fighting.He knows that others are watching and shit were getting too dangerous to simply just stand there doing nothing.Um no I am not guessing. Do you know what suppressive fire is?And even that would fail.You would know that if you could remember what Kirei did when they were firing at him.And"if"?He clearly said that. The Contender is much more powerful than everything else he used against Kayneth.Kayneth had no reason to belive that he had something more powerful than mines and grenades.And that was the plan.To make Kayneth raise his defenses even more after the fist shot. We went from most skilled to who won the war...please be consistent. Kiritsgu didnt won the battle.It was draw.When he killed Kirei there was no battle,no fight.He was just the guy that woke up first from something none of them did.Kirei said that to Shirou while he was hiding everything else. Shooting someone to the heart from behind isnt something a softy would do. No he gave one command spell to him because Lancer helped Saber. Sola had already lost it thanks to Lancer's curse.That isnt being evil. NO he wasnt.The whole laughing scene along with his realization at the end prove that. He wouldnt be able to see Aoi suffer.She wasnt able to suffer. You DO realize that every single char in the war was ready to kill?What does evil method even mean?Kiritsugu evacuated an entire hotel before blowing it up,he didnt change at the end, he is still the same person.You should either call every single one of them evil including your absolute favorites Lancer and Saber or never mention that word again. Tokiomi was never innocent. No it isnt .You have no sense of good and evil.You just decide what is good and what is evil based on how much you like the chars.Lol you cant even remember the events or char relations correctly. Sola had lost her mid due to Lancer's curse.I am tired of saying that. You opinion is based solely on how you remember the series ,if you can remember it at all.For someone not giving a shit you surely gave an entire pile. |
ssjokgDec 4, 2013 9:40 AM
| Disregarding the argument above me, my favorites are. 1. Gilgamesh - Love his arrogance and you simply can't beat this guy 2. Saber - I've always loved Saber even though I just cannot agree with what she says about chivalry and battle. EXCALIBUR!!! 3. Rider - He's so hammy and awesome! His bond with Waver was amazing as well. 4. Lancer - I respect Lancer but he's in the same ballpark as Saber concerning their views on battle. His death was tragic though 5. Berserker - He was so awesome! The twist at the end involving him was rather shocking but pretty easy to guess if you know your mythology 6. Caster - His voice annoyed me but I guess he was an interesting fellow? 7. Screw Assassin, he sucked :P |
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