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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- So, Johnny married Norisuke's daughter. The rest was pretty much the same as in the original universe, except for Holly, that married Kira's father instead of the Kujo guy and Joseph has no illegitimate son until now. Also, I guess there's no GioGio. All Higashikata males are JoJos. I'm very curious now. |
m4rc0Jun 10, 2012 7:26 PM
| what da fuck |
| WAY TO MAKE A LIKEABLE PAIRING INCESTUOUS ARAKI. NOT THAT YOU'VE EVER DONE THAT BEFORE OR ANYTHING. Anyway, good chapter. Loving the interaction between Jousuke and Daiya, and how mellowed-out most of this chapter was. The shaving scene was brilliant. Jousuke was probably better this chapter than any other. m4rc0 said: Also, I guess there's no GioGio. Not quite. The family tree obviously doesn't work the exact same way here. I think it's quite likely Joseph had an illegitimate son in this universe as well, and that Giorno is descended from him. ...Besides, if there's no Giorno, who will be part 9's protagonist? I can't imagine Araki ending it with 8. |
Lindle said: Not quite. The family tree obviously doesn't work the exact same way here. I think it's quite likely Joseph had an illegitimate son in this universe as well, and that Giorno is descended from him. ...Besides, if there's no Giorno, who will be part 9's protagonist? I can't imagine Araki ending it with 8. This time Araki has inserted some unnamed Joestars into the tree(Johnny's daughter and Joseph's siblings) so he can later come up with whatever he wants. And Norisuke's birth name is Jousuke. The second kanji is ๅฉ(the same as in Part 4 Jousuke's name), so I guess it makes him JoJo. If it's correct, he would be both the first JoJo who isn't related to the Joestar family and the first JoJo who is a villain. |
mado_2kiJun 12, 2012 12:36 AM
Rinso said: Well, assuming he is a villain. He could easily be well-intentioned, we still don't know much about him.Lindle said: Not quite. The family tree obviously doesn't work the exact same way here. I think it's quite likely Joseph had an illegitimate son in this universe as well, and that Giorno is descended from him. ...Besides, if there's no Giorno, who will be part 9's protagonist? I can't imagine Araki ending it with 8. This time Araki has inserted some unnamed Joestars into the tree(Johnny's daughter and Joseph's siblings) so he can later come up with whatever he wants. And Norisuke's birth name is Jousuke. The second kanji is ๅฉ(the same as in Part 4 Jousuke's name), so I guess it makes him JoJo. If it's correct, he would be both the first JoJo who isn't related to the Joestar family and the first JoJo who is a villain. |
| So: Jotaro is now Yoshigake Kira |
Lindle said: Well, assuming he is a villain. He could easily be well-intentioned, we still don't know much about him. He doesn't look like he has good intentions. Unless Jousuke's true memories are the memories of a murderer or something of that kind. |
| GioGio without Dio would be just a random Joestar and wouldnt be able to muda muda muda muda... Lindle said: Besides, if there's no Giorno, who will be part 9's protagonist? I can't imagine Araki ending it with 8. He can always use Irene, another universe or come up with a brand new JoJo. About Norisuke, it's still too soon to know anything for sure. What I really want to know is the importance of the Joestar mark. In the other universe, it had "power", but I don't know how it works now. |
Rinso said: See, that's what I'm expecting. I imagine it'll be something along the lines of Ghost Trick's twist (I don't know if anyone here has played it, but yeah).Unless Jousuke's true memories are the memories of a murderer or something of that kind. |
| Noooo, already caught up with the most recent chapter. Now it's back to waiting for releases again >_> Anyway, this part has really piqued my curiosity so far. And with this family tree and the possibilities it presents, this chapter was quite the mind fuck. Edit: and ten minutes later I only now realized that Johnny's wife is called Rina. You know, like Erina just without the "E". Kinda clever xD |
grandy_UiDJun 15, 2012 8:03 AM
| I would still have liked a Johnny x Lucy ending. It would've been possible, since Lisa Lisa was an orphan Jonathan saved and Erina raised. She could very well be made into Norisuke's grandchild called Risa. Johnny and Lucy as a couple would befriend Norisuke and their son George would marry little Risa. Thinking about a possible GioGio, you know what you be VERY cool? Giorno Giovanna Zepelli. I wonder if the protagonist will find out Kira has an illegitimate uncle called Jotaro (since he's Josuke). Or maybe, that he's that uncle... But with Kira dead, I wonder where Irene will come from... Unless this is not the same AU. Valentine showed that there are many. |
m4rc0Jun 18, 2012 3:41 PM
grandy_UiD said: Noooo, already caught up with the most recent chapter. Now it's back to waiting for releases again >_> Actually there's still one more chapter out. |
m4rc0 said: Thinking about a possible GioGio, you know what you be VERY cool? Giorno Giovanna Zepelli.  |
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| Things are getting really interesting now. So Kira Yoshikage is a Jojo in this universe. m4rc0 said: All Higashikata males are JoJos. Not exactly. Even though they're technically together in the family tree, the Higashikata family carries no Joestar blood whatsoever. Josuke8 is only temporarily using this family name. It's like how Jotaro's father is part of the Joestar family but has no blood connection to the previous generations. |
| Kira is a descendant of the Joestar family, nice. |
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| Wtf... Well, it's curious that according to the principal Joestar Family, Kujo Jotaro is Yoshikage Kira here. So, Johnny married with the daughter of Norisuke I and it connects with the Kira family. I'm anticipating how this will be. It has its suspense. |
| Come to think of it...why the hell is Jobin called Jobin and not Norisuke V? Norisuke IV never seemed like a guy who would just break with tradition that easily. (Or maybe it was explained in a later chapter, I can't remember. That's why I'm re-reading this after all) |
| Johnny's descendants are related to Higashikata house, since he married Norisuke Higashikata (I)'s daughter. :D Great. What's more, it means that most likely Josuke is related to Higashikata. A distant relative, but still. That would explain why Norisuke Higashikata (IV) is so interested in him. |
โจSaint Seiya Club๐ |
| Holly married Kira's dad! Woah! So now we have a Kira as a Joestar. I really want to see to Holly is in this universe. Imagine there being a milf-hunter Kakyoin kind of person too lol. |
| --AbiSa-- |
| So, the Higashikata family and the Joestars are related after all, not a huge surprise I guess. What's more surprising is that the Kira family is related to them too... Holly marrying Yoshikage's father is pretty weird, but here we are. There's no Jotaro in this version either, because Holly's son seems to be Yoshikage. Though there is no way of telling that this family tree is complete. Wonder where Josuke falls into place. A lot of signs lead to him and Yoshikage being the same person or something similar. I also found it interesting that Soft & Wet is able to take physical objects (hair) and transfer them to a different place. The ability is quite versatile. I wonder if he can also carry around big objects. |
| Damn this is so fucking interesting i love this. |
| Sorry for my english xD! RIP Kentaro Miura :( RIP Akira Toriyama :(  |
| woah i knew johnny had some relation with jousuke and it turns out that kira who also happens to be jousuke(for now) is a descent of johnny and there's also the counterparts of the jojos from the original timeline, very interesting araki doesnt fail to make 'hard to understand at first family' tree |
| Bruh, what is wrong with this family? Dad's totally cool with this relationship so long as Josuke's her pet? |
| ๐ผ ๐จ๐ค๐ช๐ฃ๐ ๐จ๐ค๐ช๐ก ๐๐ฌ๐๐ก๐ก๐จ ๐ฌ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐ฃ ๐ ๐จ๐ค๐ช๐ฃ๐ ๐ข๐๐ฃ๐ ๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ ๐จ๐ค๐ช๐ฃ๐ ๐๐ค๐๐ฎ |
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