mister_deaf said: Legendre said: If I was new, I wouldn't have included the intentionally part, nor would I have included the unintentionally part. I would have simply said "you proved Riptos' point". If you were wondering, unintentionally needs to be included as well, since most people that post on internet forums aren't very bright. Or were you just waiting for someone to respond in a similar manner so that you could post "-JustAsPlanned.jpg-" and "Welcome to the Internetz. You must be new here."? Not very original. It seems to me that people are really anal nowadays and get worked up over shit that does not have cent of worth and yet attempt to treat things with utmost srsbisnis as opposed to ignoring such mundane matters. As you may have noticed, my writing consists of the use of blatant irony and it should be apparent to any soul that it should not be taken seriously. And before you bash me further, I will save you the trouble of failing miserably and admit that my obnoxious ego is the size of the Solar system and shits stardust and space gas. Calm the fuck down buddy and enjoy the show. Wooo you really took that to heart didn't you? I don't recall anything in my two posts that would suggest I was getting "worked up". You're right however in that your posts are full of blatant irony, as it's ironic that you are telling me to calm the fuck down and enjoy the show, while you are producing everything that a show would need to be entertaining. Please don't misunderstand though. I'm not bashing you. You're doing all the work yourself. If anything I was simply defending my original statement. |
UmbryaMar 18, 2012 10:56 PM
Legendre said: mister_deaf said: It seems to me that people are really anal nowadays and get worked up over shit that does not have cent of worth and yet attempt to treat things with utmost srsbisnis as opposed to ignoring such mundane matters. As you may have noticed, my writing consists of the use of blatant irony and it should be apparent to any soul that it should not be taken seriously. And before you bash me further, I will save you the trouble of failing miserably and admit that my obnoxious ego is the size of the Solar system and shits stardust and space gas. Calm the fuck down buddy and enjoy the show. Wooo you really took that to heart didn't you? You're right that your posts are full of blatant irony, as it's ironic that you are telling me to calm the fuck down and enjoy the show, while you are producing everything that a show would need to be entertaining. Please don't misunderstand. I'm not bashing you. You're doing all the work yourself. If anything I was simply defending my original statement. Damn right Captain Obvious. It amuses me that you have to make everything crystal clear for the inept masses that are incapable of discerning the meaning behind my words. Shit, then they must be stupid. Either way, I wouldn't be able to give a rat's ass to care. Yeah, I can take a jab at myself. NO PROBREM. But if you offend me, you offend my famirry. That's just how I roll son. |
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mister_deaf said: Legendre said: mister_deaf said: It seems to me that people are really anal nowadays and get worked up over shit that does not have cent of worth and yet attempt to treat things with utmost srsbisnis as opposed to ignoring such mundane matters. As you may have noticed, my writing consists of the use of blatant irony and it should be apparent to any soul that it should not be taken seriously. And before you bash me further, I will save you the trouble of failing miserably and admit that my obnoxious ego is the size of the Solar system and shits stardust and space gas. Calm the fuck down buddy and enjoy the show. Wooo you really took that to heart didn't you? You're right that your posts are full of blatant irony, as it's ironic that you are telling me to calm the fuck down and enjoy the show, while you are producing everything that a show would need to be entertaining. Please don't misunderstand. I'm not bashing you. You're doing all the work yourself. If anything I was simply defending my original statement. Damn right Captain Obvious. It amuses me that you have to make everything crystal clear for the inept masses that are incapable of discerning the meaning behind my words. Shit, then they must be stupid. Either way, I wouldn't be able to give a rat's ass to care. Yeah, I can take a jab at myself. NO PROBREM. But if you offend me, you offend my famirry. That's just how I roll son. Better. Much better. Now I can go back to finishing this anime. btw the part about shitting stardust and space gas made my evening, thanks for that |
| No anime I can remember ever really offended me but I know a manga that did. Shitsurakuen... a manga that basically says "men will go out of their way to abuse women, if given free reign to do so" (except of course the one nerdy one... because we couldn't relate to anyone else) |
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| Ouran High School Manwhore Brothel Host Club... No other anime is so sexist than this one. Ironically it is Haruhi rather than those manwhores who I hated the most. |
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kyuubeys said: Vampire Knight |
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LeFake said: INB4 the haters of lolicon and fanservice Edit: too late i lol'd. I was offended by Air trying to trick me into thinking it was a good anime by adding a really sad scene... |
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| Not really, because I'm not a raging feminist. A few left a bad taste in my mouth and some I think shouldn't exist (Time space adventures nuumamonjaa), but generally no. |
| Well, being it acceptable or not, the fact is I have a strong tendency to not care. I have never felt offended, so far, with an anime. For example, I watched Eiken, and more than offensive I just found it pitiful. Like a porn fantasy basically, but leaving out any trace of erotism. That is why it didn't work. Sexist? Well, maybe. But more than that it is just bad. I admit it, some scenes made me laugh because they were so fucked up, but overall my feelings on the show focused on how dull and repetitive it was. I have watched much worse shit, did anyone try the live action movie A Serbian film? That makes Eiken look like a happy rainbow-coloured kid's show, basically. |
| None that I could think of spontanuously |
Legendre said: It's ok Kyuubeys, I enjoyed reading your arguments :3 .. I agree with most everything you said. There are several anime that "preach preudice and hate", but you do have to remember to take everything with a grain of salt. I don't think that the directors intent is to convince people to go out and rape every girl they see under the age of 18 (lol). It's just that some people actually find anime of that genre entertaining and/or erotic. That's really all there is to it. I think it's wrong as well, but I'm not going to sit here and judge someone who thinks it's entertaining/erotic.. well maybe a little.. but you get my point. This isn't to say that it can't be offensive, it can, but I am just suggesting that you shouldn't get up in arms about it. I personally haven't been offended by an anime yet. I do however have a couple of anime on my list for this very purpose though. I have a very weird inclination to add shitty anime just to see how shitty they really are. Examples on my PTW are Mars of Destruction, Eiken, and many many more lol.. So I'll have to get back to this thread once I watch some of those :P Well, you got a point. And I kind of agree with it. I normally don't really care this much for this stuff in anime either, I was just trying to proof that anime can be offensive and talked like if I was offended. Not anime, actually, but the content itself. Some things make me angry, but... Well, I hope you understood, my words are missing lol |
jal90 said: Well, being it acceptable or not, the fact is I have a strong tendency to not care. I have never felt offended, so far, with an anime. For example, I watched Eiken, and more than offensive I just found it pitiful. Like a porn fantasy basically, but leaving out any trace of erotism. That is why it didn't work. Sexist? Well, maybe. But more than that it is just bad. I admit it, some scenes made me laugh because they were so fucked up, but overall my feelings on the show focused on how dull and repetitive it was. I have watched much worse shit, did anyone try the live action movie A Serbian film? That makes Eiken look like a happy rainbow-coloured kid's show, basically. Yes. I think you're right. Eiken is much more pitful than just offensive. I just mentioned this one because it was the first one to come to my mind |
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: I think the previous argument , drowned my heartwarming post. MARS OF DESTRUCTION!!! Seriously? Wasn't that offensive towards anyone but me. I guess I misjudged my own specie I thought it was bad but hilarious and therefore entertaining. No offense to be found. |
| Mars of Destruction has nothing offensive, except maybe for fans of classic music. |
| I wouldnt say any anime has offended me, but there where a 2 scenes in elfen lied that disgusted me a bit. |
ElPysCongroo said: I wouldnt say any anime has offended me, but there where a 2 scenes in elfen lied that disgusted me a bit. Wait, but there was no incest in Elfen Lied from what I remember. Unless you're refering to the fact the Yuka and Kouta and cousins... But this is not considered incest in maaaany cultures. |
| @kyuubeys if they arnt blood related like in kissXsis then its fine. I guess where im from I dont think its even legal let alone it being taboo, so those scenes just weird to me, and made me really hate yuka. |
| I never got actually offended by an anime, I simply don't bother. I don't understand the double standards of people, by LAW, murder is worse than rape, incest, pedophilia, zoophilia, necrophilia, you name it. Yet no one here is complaining about murder, a far more serious crime. Many anime, films and other entertainment media include pointless gratuitous murder and even so there is rarely anyone offended by it. |
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| You're an idiot if you let any fictional works offend you, imo. |
RLinksoul said: Aside from that his characters don't develop well, even fans admit that. The characters are often cited as the worst aspect of the show, to the point that they feel more like plot tokens to get pushed around than characters with any real depth. I am going to request that you stop making up BS about what is often cited about the show just so you can use the word cited. |
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miereneronaile said: Im still waiting to see one of the people claiming being offended by fiction is stupid to explain exactly how its different to any other emotion or feeling being elicited. The only thing I can think of is that its an unpleasant reaction, so you should avoid things that cause it. Ultimately though, that seems rather difficult to do without being cautious in the extreme with what you choose to watch. In fact, the more I think about this the more I am forced to conclude that it does not really matter WHERE we see racism, or sexism, or rape. Its not where they are shown that is offensive, its what they are. I am not saying we should freak out over it. In fact, before this thread I would never have even come close to thinking I had been 'offended' by fiction. After thinking about it now though, I probably should have been many times. Saying 'It is fiction, so its ok' feels rather similar to 'It did not happen to me so its ok' Sure, there are differences. I just feel they are... minor. The conclusion I was trying to reach here, but probably failed at conveying, is that No, you do not NEED to feel offended. I think we probably should, in some minor way. At least, I refuse to accept that people are idiots just for being offended when they see something bad. Thank you for explaining my thoughts in a better way than I would. I fully agree with this. |
RLinksoul said: Anime_Name said: I am going to request that you stop making up BS about what is often cited about the show just so you can use the word cited. I'm going to request that you stop making up BS about me just so you can act like your opinions are fact. I don't think I need to dig up proof that the characters are CITED as the weakest point in the show, not that I'm going to. I was done with that subject three pages ago. You said often cited. I have no doubt that you will be able to dig out some remarks of people criticizing the character development but those remarks aren't made often among fans of the series. You say you're done but you keep on trying to support your opinion by trying to claim some other group of individuals think like you. |
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| It's a 3 day old topic that is barely 4 pages. Your comments are on the first page. There was no digging involved. |
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| Steins;Gate insulted my intelligence. CERN? Seriously?!?! |
| No. |
| @Scruff well they could hardly call it the proper name, as they made them the villans. Theres also probably copyright and trademark reasons too :/ |
Angry_Bellsprout said: If it's historical fiction, it makes sense to portray racism, but also, racism is a reality today so it can and should be portrayed in stories to bring awareness. If the author is blatantly racist though, that's not really the fiction's fault, it goes back to the creator.Fiction with racism, for example, can still be offensive. |
miereneronaile said: Being offended by fiction is the same as being offended by reality. That's just the way things are, if you don't like it you can either ignore it and move on, or in reality you can take action and try to change things. Are you gonna be offended when you see someone shot on the street or someone get in a car accident? You might be offended by someone who's being racist or sexist, but I don't think you can really say that the existence of racism or sexism offend you unless you are actively working to stop them. It's reality and unless you are doing something to make it change you have no right to say reality offend you.Im still waiting to see one of the people claiming being offended by fiction is stupid to explain exactly how its different to any other emotion or feeling being elicited. The only thing I can think of is that its an unpleasant reaction, so you should avoid things that cause it. Ultimately though, that seems rather difficult to do without being cautious in the extreme with what you choose to watch. In fact, the more I think about this the more I am forced to conclude that it does not really matter WHERE we see racism, or sexism, or rape. Its not where they are shown that is offensive, its what they are. I am not saying we should freak out over it. In fact, before this thread I would never have even come close to thinking I had been 'offended' by fiction. After thinking about it now though, I probably should have been many times. Saying 'It is fiction, so its ok' feels rather similar to 'It did not happen to me so its ok' Sure, there are differences. I just feel they are... minor. The conclusion I was trying to reach here, but probably failed at conveying, is that No, you do not NEED to feel offended. I think we probably should, in some minor way. At least, I refuse to accept that people are idiots just for being offended when they see something bad. |
xxangelchanxx said: mitch3315 said: Ouran Highschool Host Club's very existence offends me. Of course a guy would say that. I'm a guy and believe that Ouran Highschool Host Club's had to be one of my favorite comedies so far, Tamaki is just so awesome and same goes for the other hosts. |
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miereneronaile said: Of course I can say I am offended by the existence of racism and sexism. They are a blight on our race, the cause of some of the biggest problems facing humanity and quite probably the greatest man made cause of death. Nope, religion killed/kills way more people. |
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| Blood C for ruining such a classic title. HNNKN Kira ^ (insert horrible sequel/adaptation here) ^ |
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Blood C for ruining such a classic title. The other titles didn't get hurt because of Blood C |
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miereneronaile said: ]Im sure that, if we must be strick with the terms of the words, thats correct. Being technically correct the only way to be correct. How about if I say instead of racism, simply bias against other people for no fucking good reason whatsoever. To be honest, I dont really see any difference between hating people for their religion and hating them for their race. I know there are differences, I just dont view them as large enough to matter. You need to read more about wars; the reasons behind them, the death tolls, how resolutions were reached. Doing that will help you find facts that can be easily supported instead of ignorant opinions. |
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| Gantz. First time I've Actually been offended. |
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ElPysCongroo said: @Scruff well they could hardly call it the proper name, as they made them the villans. Theres also probably copyright and trademark reasons too :/ That's not what I mean. I just think the whole notion of a worldwide independent non-political scientific organisation controlling a future dystopia is down right retarded. If they had just made up some evil organisation from scratch I would have been much happier. sleeplesstown said: Scruff said: Steins;Gate insulted my intelligence. CERN? Seriously?!?! Huh, why? 1. Above. 2. I study Physics. Some of the stuff they quote in the series is laughably bad. It's bullshit. I just couldn't take it seriously. Also, lots of under-the carpet assumptions made and holes galore. You made me go into a Rant! LOL. But being frank, I'm okay with an Anime not being realistic, but when the Anime TRIES to be realistic and fails miserably, that's what pisses me off. |
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| I don't understand how people can get offended by anything other than direct (or to close ones) physical or verbal assault. |
Scruff said: ElPysCongroo said: @Scruff well they could hardly call it the proper name, as they made them the villans. Theres also probably copyright and trademark reasons too :/ That's not what I mean. I just think the whole notion of a worldwide independent non-political scientific organisation controlling a future dystopia is down right retarded. If they had just made up some evil organisation from scratch I would have been much happier. sleeplesstown said: Scruff said: Steins;Gate insulted my intelligence. CERN? Seriously?!?! Huh, why? 1. Above. 2. I study Physics. Some of the stuff they quote in the series is laughably bad. It's bullshit. I just couldn't take it seriously. Also, lots of under-the carpet assumptions made and holes galore. You made me go into a Rant! LOL. But being frank, I'm okay with an Anime not being realistic, but when the Anime TRIES to be realistic and fails miserably, that's what pisses me off. A: Regardless of where a company warehouses it's data online with accounts that can access then it can be thought of as a database and hacked into. Being in fragments or stored in various places doesn't matter to databases software, so long as the software knows the path to the data. B: If Daru hacked into the database by finding a correct password you do realize it doesn't mean he was the one that actually found it. There are tons of programs that are made to use algorithms, dictionary attacks, and brute force methods that can be programed to find holes in security and will do so in whatever language specified. C: I can take a program written for an Apple PC, meaning only Apple PCs can read it, and save it to an external device and transfer it between an Apple PC, Windows PC, Xbox, and PS3. So long as the external device matches all of the machines in question moving data between them is possible. D: Saving memories is part of the "fiction" of Steins;Gate. If cannot be called a plothole or under the carpet assumption. When watching/reading any work of science-fiction it is mandatory to suspend your disbelief for the fictional part of how that world works. The work didn't try to be realistic. It clearly stated it was about science-fiction. |
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| If anyone gets offended easily they shouldnt be so stupid to watch shows with storylines that obviously would offend them. Are so much people here really that masochistic and obsessed over their own dislike of something? Although i do find it annoying when too often if there is an american character on a show they always make them the rude jerk Scruff said: Steins;Gate insulted my intelligence. CERN? Seriously?!?! You do realize that at CERN that they have the worlds largest particle accelerator and they have made attempts at creating mini black holes right? It makes sense enough just for the sake of a story. Plus the idea of using CERN had to do with the story of John Titor which is sorta a internet urban legend in a way http://www.johntitor.com/ |
traedMar 22, 2012 5:39 PM
miereneronaile said: Being technically correct is actually fairly minor here, as hating racism is right either way. So ok, racism is not the highest cause of man made death(Neither is religion, btw, but whatever, totally off topic) Failing history must be pretty fun. Being offended by a work of fiction it is stupid because it means most of the time you're disregarding context. If one is watching the Godfather, one won't complain that white mafiosos Italians in the 50s were racists except for retards. |
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| While not anime but some smutty shoujo mangas made me to punch the monitor. Back to topic any "fabulous" action anime that aimed for female audiences like 07-Ghost also made me to do the same thing. |
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