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Mar 14, 2012 1:22 PM
#101
Mar 14, 2012 1:25 PM
#102
Kazeshini said: a girl was killed by her family, yes every member in the family killed her because she would not become a prostitute... yes money was the issue. like there's nothing else better to do than be a whore. Has little to do with what the topic is actually about, but thanks for sharing. At any rate, legal prostitution works in various countries, and parts of Nevada successfully regulate it. Even in Canada prostitution itself is legal though there are some regulations that make it hard to engage in prostitution without breaking the law. I see no reason it should not be legalized (even morally I do not see an issue), and as it works for several other countries I see no reason it could not work here as well. At the very least it should be decriminalized imo. Using resources to catch people who are "picking" up hookers is a complete waste of time/money. |
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Mar 14, 2012 1:55 PM
#103
Mar 14, 2012 2:09 PM
#104
Chef_Gohda said: No, because some people work very hard to earn money so I don't think someone using their body to make money would be right. Why? Many professions use their bodies to make money, a few legal examples would be models, showgirls, to some extent actors, and for what some might consider a less tasteful choice, strippers. I fail to see how hard someone else works as a determining factor in the legality of prostitution. |
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Mar 14, 2012 2:18 PM
#105
Chef_Gohda said: No, because some people work very hard to earn money so I don't think someone using their body to make money would be right. Holy shit, can not compute. |
Mar 14, 2012 2:46 PM
#106
Chef_Gohda said: No, because some people work very hard to earn money so I don't think someone using their body to make money would be right. Made my day. Thanks for the good laugh. |
Mar 14, 2012 2:53 PM
#107
Chef_Gohda said: No, because some people work very hard to earn money so I don't think someone using their body to make money would be right. "some people" Even if what you said was remotely valid, there would be others who don't work hard to earn money. Cheers for the lulz though. |
Mar 14, 2012 2:56 PM
#108
Chef_Gohda said: No, because some people work very hard to earn money so I don't think someone using their body to make money would be right. But working very hard to earn money and using your body to earn money aren't necessarily mutually exclusive... EDIT: I just noticed that the last five posts have been replies to your post, Chef_Gohda. I don't think any of us mean any offense ^_^ |
Mar 14, 2012 4:09 PM
#109
Chef_Gohda said: No, because some people work very hard to earn money so I don't think someone using their body to make money would be right. i also thank you for the lolz. who said the prostitutes arent working hard anyway |
Mar 14, 2012 5:33 PM
#110
SAFER. |
Mar 14, 2012 9:22 PM
#111
Chef_Gohda said: You should realize that they work hard, too. Fucking every ugly man who throws money isn't easy, at least in my opinion. Just think about it.No, because some people work very hard to earn money so I don't think someone using their body to make money would be right. |
Mar 14, 2012 9:58 PM
#112
ProdiGene said: I'd think that as professionals, they'd be desensitized enough to not give a damn after a little while. It's work allright, but I wouldn't call it exceedingly hard work.You should realize that they work hard, too. Fucking every ugly man who throws money isn't easy, at least in my opinion. Just think about it. |
Mar 14, 2012 10:14 PM
#113
1. My answer is no. Demeaning for women to go down that route. 2. Visit this website as evidence and yes it is biased. http://www.prostitutionresearch.com/c-prostitution-facts.html |
Mar 15, 2012 2:59 AM
#114
NonkiLauren said: 1. My answer is no. Demeaning for women to go down that route. 2. Visit this website as evidence and yes it is biased. http://www.prostitutionresearch.com/c-prostitution-facts.html Isn't it "demeaning for women" to tell them what they can and can't do with their bodies? In fact that's rather demeaning to anyone, really. Who are you to decide what any human being can do with themselves? I mean, I realise a lot of people are pressed into this, and when it happens that's terrible, but that would decrease with the legalisation of prostitution, surely. By making it illegal you're opening up for an unsafe and illegal (obviously) market. There's going to be a sex-trade anyway, and call me an optimist but I believe that if it at least is legal the number of voluntary practitioners would increase. What's more it would be much safer for all involved. |
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Mar 15, 2012 3:10 AM
#115
ProdiGene said: Chef_Gohda said: You should realize that they work hard, too. Fucking every ugly man who throws money isn't easy, at least in my opinion. Just think about it.No, because some people work very hard to earn money so I don't think someone using their body to make money would be right. Yeas but we all have to admit that women kind of have more choices with this don't they? If they lose their job and can't pay their rent they can always fuck a few guys for money and keep a roof on top of their heads along with food on the table. If a guy loses his job like that his pretty much fucked. Baman said: ProdiGene said: I'd think that as professionals, they'd be desensitized enough to not give a damn after a little while. It's work allright, but I wouldn't call it exceedingly hard work.You should realize that they work hard, too. Fucking every ugly man who throws money isn't easy, at least in my opinion. Just think about it. Doesn't the same goes for many other jobs though. For example there's a guy that works in an internet cafe a few blocks from where i live. He pretty much does nothing but sit there and play in his computer and just take payments from the people using computers. It's an extremely easy job, quite easier that prostitution too, yet no one accuses him for doing a lazy job. |
Mar 15, 2012 8:12 AM
#116
Terminatez said: SAFER. lolwut ProdiGene said: Chef_Gohda said: You should realize that they work hard, too. Fucking every ugly man who throws money isn't easy, at least in my opinion. Just think about it.No, because some people work very hard to earn money so I don't think someone using their body to make money would be right. Not to mention a lot of them have no choice. Noncomplatypus said: NonkiLauren said: By making it illegal you're opening up for an unsafe and illegal (obviously) market. There's going to be a sex-trade anyway, and call me an optimist but I believe that if it at least is legal the number of voluntary practitioners would increase. What's more it would be much safer for all involved. This. |
Mar 15, 2012 8:40 AM
#117
YES- it's the only way to actually control it since you can't make it disappear. |
Mar 15, 2012 8:56 AM
#118
Noncomplatypus said: Precisely. Sure, any form of promiscuity in women is usually seen as slutty while the same from men is accepted, I even think the same way myself in most cases, but that's a part of our culture and evolutionary psychology. Isn't it "demeaning for women" to tell them what they can and can't do with their bodies? In fact that's rather demeaning to anyone, really. Who are you to decide what any human being can do with themselves? And as far as I've understood, the whole point of gender equality is to try to eliminate these barriers, so naturally a woman should be allowed to willingly become a prostitute. Porn stars are already pretty much there. Monad said: Yea, sure, there's lots of easy jobs, and I bet most people would definitely want a job with less work and more pay. So why not allow them to earn money with their bodies if they want. What's important is the market, if I could get paid to squeeze out a quota of farts each day, I sure would stock up on beans and watch the cash roll in.Doesn't the same goes for many other jobs though. For example there's a guy that works in an internet cafe a few blocks from where i live. He pretty much does nothing but sit there and play in his computer and just take payments from the people using computers. It's an extremely easy job, quite easier that prostitution too, yet no one accuses him for doing a lazy job. |
Mar 15, 2012 9:06 AM
#119
So long as they attend the Courtesan's College of Connecticut I see no issue. If they wish to make it their job then at least know how to do it right. On a more serious note the Prostitution industry, as it is now, is a dirty place that could definitely use some government regulations. The way I see it no matter how hard law enforcement and government entities might try they won't be able to stop it. You don't just shut down a "business" that's been happening for hundreds (maybe thousands) of years. If you can't beat em, legalize it and get a cut of the profits I say. Legalizing it would benefit all parties... except maybe the pimps but they are the scum anyways. |
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Mar 15, 2012 8:36 PM
#120
I'd say it being legal would be more beneficial than it being illegal to be frank. Let's be honest it doesn't matter if it's legal or not it is a trade that's almost impossible to contain no matter what punishment you threaten it with. That being said it is definitely something that would need to be managed properly. Simply legalizing it wouldn't get rid of the majority of major problems the sex industry has (STD's, forced prostitution, drug use etc). It would probably be more effective to introduce a license of some form for legal prostitution. Something along the lines of the person in question must not be involved with drugs, frequent check up to ensure no STD's and what not. Though it's not really a complete legalization of the act itself the vast majority of people would be more willing to be with someone who they can ensure is clean and doing it of their own accord rather than a drugged up lass who's probably been forced into it by a pimp or what not. Also taxes because... ya know... government loves dem taxes ¬¬ |
Mar 15, 2012 9:20 PM
#121
human enjoy doing something illegal. Legalize prostitution will make it boring. |
Mar 16, 2012 12:24 AM
#123
tembikai said: Humans enjoy doing legal shit, too, ya know. Though I do understand the thrill you achieve doing somethin' illegal cannot be compared with what you achieve when doing something legal. Also, sex is never boring. To me, it isn't, at least. Everything about sex is interesting, even the "talk."human enjoy doing something illegal. Legalize prostitution will make it boring. |
Mar 16, 2012 12:28 AM
#124
Legalize it. Hell, don't even regulate it. Let people do as they wish. |
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Mar 16, 2012 12:30 AM
#125
tembikai said: human enjoy doing something illegal. Legalize prostitution will make it boring. It's fun? What's so fun about applying my corruption onto a woman who's already being paid for sex? The most enjoyable aspects of sex are free. I find it far more fun to corrupt something pure and seemingly innocent than some prostitute. |
Mar 16, 2012 2:36 PM
#126
tembikai said: human enjoy doing something illegal. Legalize prostitution will make it boring. Prostitution is not one of them unless you enjoy the thrill of the possibility of getting aids. |
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Apr 1, 2012 10:11 AM
#127
*shrug* It's people's bodies, it should be up to them what the hell they use it for. They should be freakin' aware about the risks that come with it, but if they still want to buy/sell sex from/to complete strangers, then it's their stupid problem if they get infection or whatever else. O_o The only moral issue I have with this is pregnancy and child birth related. |
Apr 1, 2012 10:33 AM
#128
xxangelchanxx said: tembikai said: human enjoy doing something illegal. Legalize prostitution will make it boring. Prostitution is not one of them unless you enjoy the thrill of the possibility of getting aids. Hahaha. Agreed, although people seem to enjoy the thrill of potentially dying when they take certain hard drugs sooooo. I think it should be illegal, because laws essentially say whether or not things are 'okay'. Obviously there is always going to be debate about what is 'okay' and what isn't, but I don't think selling your body for money is, and a lot of people would agree with me. |
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Apr 1, 2012 10:37 AM
#129
Bloodcalibur said: The most enjoyable aspects of sex are free. I find it far more fun to corrupt something pure and seemingly innocent than some prostitute. Also, this. I wouldn't say corrupt, but I'd much rather have sex with someone who hasn't had very much, as opposed to someone I know has had many, many partners (never mind being a prostitute, that's just gross). |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
Apr 1, 2012 10:38 AM
#130
I didn't read any of the posts. I just wanted to say: in germany it IS legal... Okay, it's abit more complicated than simply saying "it's legal" but in the end that's what it comes down to. I also see abolutely nothing wrong with it, as long as it doesn't involve forcing people to do it. |
Apr 1, 2012 11:53 AM
#131
But when you make prostitution legal, it makes it a lot less exciting. That's why a lot of people do drugs and shit, because it's thrilling to know that you could get caught at any moment. I don't think that it should be criminal, but I don't think it should be "legal". JoshSalas said: I think it should be illegal, because laws essentially say whether or not things are 'okay'. Obviously there is always going to be debate about what is 'okay' and what isn't, but I don't think selling your body for money is, and a lot of people would agree with me. I get where you're coming from, but I don't think that the government should always get to govern what's okay and what's not. If a woman or a man is a prostitute, he or she is a consensual adult being paid by another consensual adult. Unless it's hurting innocent people, which it's not, then I don't think that it should be illegal. I don't know. My opinion is a bit strange when it comes to prostitution. |
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Apr 1, 2012 12:12 PM
#133
ycart59 said: But when you make prostitution legal, it makes it a lot less exciting. That's why a lot of people do drugs and shit, because it's thrilling to know that you could get caught at any moment. I don't think that it should be criminal, but I don't think it should be "legal". So you think it should be illegal in order to make it more thrilling? lol |
Apr 1, 2012 12:18 PM
#134
hikky said: ycart59 said: But when you make prostitution legal, it makes it a lot less exciting. That's why a lot of people do drugs and shit, because it's thrilling to know that you could get caught at any moment. I don't think that it should be criminal, but I don't think it should be "legal". So you think it should be illegal in order to make it more thrilling? lol Someone didn't read the entire second half of my post. lol |
Apr 1, 2012 12:27 PM
#135
ycart59 said: I get where you're coming from, but I don't think that the government should always get to govern what's okay and what's not. If a woman or a man is a prostitute, he or she is a consensual adult being paid by another consensual adult. Unless it's hurting innocent people, which it's not, then I don't think that it should be illegal. I don't know. My opinion is a bit strange when it comes to prostitution. Well whether of not you think they should, that's the way it is. So legalizing prostitution would make it socially acceptable (technically at least), which is something I can't agree with. Some young girls would feel that they don't have to aspire to anything if they choose, because they always have a fall back. It's just unproductive. |
JoshApr 1, 2012 12:35 PM
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
Apr 1, 2012 12:39 PM
#136
Apr 1, 2012 12:45 PM
#137
JoshSalas said: ycart59 said: I get where you're coming from, but I don't think that the government should always get to govern what's okay and what's not. If a woman or a man is a prostitute, he or she is a consensual adult being paid by another consensual adult. Unless it's hurting innocent people, which it's not, then I don't think that it should be illegal. I don't know. My opinion is a bit strange when it comes to prostitution. Well whether of not you think they should, that's the way it is. So legalizing prostitution would make it socially acceptable (technically at least), which is something I can't agree with. Some young girls would feel that they don't have to aspire to anything if they choose, because they always have a fall back. It's just unproductive. Whether it's legal or not doesn't mean that young girls don't have to aspire to be anything. Prostitution will always be there and it will always be an option, if the situation is extreme enough. |
Apr 1, 2012 12:53 PM
#138
ycart59 said: JoshSalas said: ycart59 said: I get where you're coming from, but I don't think that the government should always get to govern what's okay and what's not. If a woman or a man is a prostitute, he or she is a consensual adult being paid by another consensual adult. Unless it's hurting innocent people, which it's not, then I don't think that it should be illegal. I don't know. My opinion is a bit strange when it comes to prostitution. Well whether of not you think they should, that's the way it is. So legalizing prostitution would make it socially acceptable (technically at least), which is something I can't agree with. Some young girls would feel that they don't have to aspire to anything if they choose, because they always have a fall back. It's just unproductive. Whether it's legal or not doesn't mean that young girls don't have to aspire to be anything. Prostitution will always be there and it will always be an option, if the situation is extreme enough. I never said they have to, and no it won't always be an option. Just because people are poor does not mean they are willing to do illegal things. If prostitution is legal it is a socially acceptable career choice, not a shady illegal job that might not work out. Many more girls/women would consider it a potential option, which is extremely different from now. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
Apr 1, 2012 1:00 PM
#139
JoshSalas said: ycart59 said: JoshSalas said: ycart59 said: I get where you're coming from, but I don't think that the government should always get to govern what's okay and what's not. If a woman or a man is a prostitute, he or she is a consensual adult being paid by another consensual adult. Unless it's hurting innocent people, which it's not, then I don't think that it should be illegal. I don't know. My opinion is a bit strange when it comes to prostitution. Well whether of not you think they should, that's the way it is. So legalizing prostitution would make it socially acceptable (technically at least), which is something I can't agree with. Some young girls would feel that they don't have to aspire to anything if they choose, because they always have a fall back. It's just unproductive. Whether it's legal or not doesn't mean that young girls don't have to aspire to be anything. Prostitution will always be there and it will always be an option, if the situation is extreme enough. I never said they have to, and no it won't always be an option. Just because people are poor does not mean they are willing to do illegal things. If prostitution is legal it is a socially acceptable career choice, not a shady illegal job that might not work out. Many more girls/women would consider it a potential option, which is extremely different from now. I don't think that making something legal changes the way society sees things. It takes quite a bit to change the way society thinks of something as a whole. I think that, no matter what, people will frown upon prostitution. And I never said that I thought they should make it "legal", per say. I just said not criminal. (Actually, is prostitution considered criminal? I don't know much about the legalities of it.) When someone is told that it's wrong to do something or not to do it, it just pushes the want to do it. And with the whole STD's crap going on with it, it would just be a healthier and safer choice to make it available. I already admit that my opinions on this conflict with each other. Sorry if I'm confusing on that. I've just never really considered my opinions on prostitution before, so I'm still trying to sort them out myself. I just don't think that, if it's hurting anyone, it shouldn't be illegal. And I know a few people myself that, when they were in a lot of financial problems, they turned to drug dealing and casual prostitution. Actually, the prostitute was male. So I'm just speaking out from my own personal experiences. |
Apr 1, 2012 1:57 PM
#140
Well if you at it in different perspectives the answer can be yes or no. From the look of outsiders they seem like sluts/whores who just wanna have sex. maybe thats true maybe dats not Some of them live on it for money some live on doing it for pleasure. Prostitution is similar to being a porn star therefore i think it should be legal. They are just porn stars with no one supervising to safety wise. But if your gonna do it its your own choice so safety wouldnt apply in this situation. |
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Apr 1, 2012 2:54 PM
#141
yes, i don't see anything wrong with it if that's their choice and i think legalizing it would actually make things a lot safer for the prostitutes. although there's always going to be people doing shady business with under age girls/guys etc. |
Apr 2, 2012 12:50 AM
#142
Well, personally I think that the world shouldn't be such, where people are forced to offer their sexual services in exchange for basic needs such as food, clothing, and shelter, but we're not about to magically turn into an ideal communist society, so... being in a world that makes it difficult for many to make enough money to lead a proper life, that world shouldn't block out possibile, legitimate ways to make money that don't effect anyone other than those involved, such as prostitution. As long as it has some regulation just like everything else, such as the prostitute having to be of a certain age, needing to have a license, and being required to get tested for STDs regularly, it should be fine. |
Apr 2, 2012 1:02 AM
#143
Prostitution isn't harmful at all as long as there is properly run businesses that keep track of the girls and such. It's practically the same as porn minus the camera aspect. |
Apr 2, 2012 1:09 AM
#144
Bloodcalibur said: tembikai said: human enjoy doing something illegal. Legalize prostitution will make it boring. It's fun? What's so fun about applying my corruption onto a woman who's already being paid for sex? The most enjoyable aspects of sex are free. I find it far more fun to corrupt something pure and seemingly innocent than some prostitute. This I don't understand the fun in sleeping with a disease-ridden whore that god knows how many men ran through when you can have a pure choice. Chivalry is dead for most people anyway, its whatever at this point. |
Apr 2, 2012 1:37 AM
#145
No. It would be way too confusing as a legit business. Just stick your dick in a sock. lolololol |
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Apr 2, 2012 11:54 AM
#146
astronomical said: Well, personally I think that the world shouldn't be such, where people are forced to offer their sexual services in exchange for basic needs such as food, clothing, and shelter, but we're not about to magically turn into an ideal communist society, so... being in a world that makes it difficult for many to make enough money to lead a proper life, that world shouldn't block out possibile, legitimate ways to make money that don't effect anyone other than those involved, such as prostitution. As long as it has some regulation just like everything else, such as the prostitute having to be of a certain age, needing to have a license, and being required to get tested for STDs regularly, it should be fine. Because obviously all women who do it only do it because they are forced or for basic needs. |
Apr 2, 2012 12:39 PM
#147
the only bad thing i could think of why its still illegal is, people who have always been law abiding citizens and are "Good people" to the government might get wrapped up in all the drugs/lifestyle that may come with prostitution, and make the drug world even bigger. In order to contain something like that, they'd have to make prostitutes super expensive, have licenses, and be in a "good neighborhood". now think about that. do you think someone would spend hundreds of dollars for sex or go find a 10 dollar hooker in the back of their nearest walgreens? |
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Apr 2, 2012 5:22 PM
#148
Drunk_Samurai said: The majority worldwide, I'm guessing... Not sure what the exact statistics are, but I'm sure more do it because it's the easiest/only way for them to earn money. I'm sure there are some who do it for other reasons, but not as many as you appear to be implying.astronomical said: Because obviously all women who do it only do it because they are forced or for basic needs.Well, personally I think that the world shouldn't be such, where people are forced to offer their sexual services in exchange for basic needs such as food, clothing, and shelter, but we're not about to magically turn into an ideal communist society, so... being in a world that makes it difficult for many to make enough money to lead a proper life, that world shouldn't block out possibile, legitimate ways to make money that don't effect anyone other than those involved, such as prostitution. As long as it has some regulation just like everything else, such as the prostitute having to be of a certain age, needing to have a license, and being required to get tested for STDs regularly, it should be fine. |
Apr 2, 2012 7:14 PM
#149
Don't legalize them. Majority of prostitutes are not STD-free and where I'm standing in my high-horse it's not of moral conduct. I'm not a religious fanatic but that's all I can say about this. |
Apr 2, 2012 7:22 PM
#150
- sooner or later a std is going to pop up - you said it yourself, you called them 'whores'. by instigating that, you are (unintentionally) representing the views of millions of americans who will never see this as a respectable or viable career option. americans are real prudes, unless you get the masses to become more comfortable with sexuality, prostitution isn't happening. - legalize cannabis first |
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