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Aug 9, 2008 11:27 AM
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Saya is so WEAK... Her weakness is boring ><
Aug 10, 2008 3:09 PM
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Saya is really annoying. She thinks she's soo coool dissapearing for a year then coming back and acting as if she doesn't even know her brother or former allies. Who does she think she is!? I couldn't believe it's been a year thoug, that caught me by surprise. Haji is as cool as always. Finally Saya is eating right. I couldn't believe they killed off Riku!! He was just a little boy *cries* I feel sort of bad for Kai. He lost two siblings in one day, then one comes back and is a righteuos snob. I was also sad Diva cut her hair v.v I don't really like Diva though, so it's okay xD
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Aug 11, 2008 10:59 AM
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give her a break. her little brother was raped and killed by her sister... =\

of course she'd try to distance herself from the others... she doesn't want anyone else hurt. jeez. >_>
Nov 23, 2008 5:14 PM
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36 episodes and she still sucks!!!
Dec 9, 2008 3:00 PM
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Saya is defenetly weak. What has she been doind for the year. Kai's been training but it looks life all she did was drink Haji's blood and cut her hair.
Nov 15, 2009 9:32 AM
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I wonder how Saya is going to beat Diva in her current state...
Jul 21, 2010 2:44 PM
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Saya will definitely overcome this, I think she is still a bit hesitant and not sure about whether she's doing the right thing. She feels guilty because she couldn't protetct Riku and now Kai is directly involved in the fights~ She was the one who set Diva free at that time after all~
Oct 25, 2010 10:15 PM
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sheesh.. it got me wondering how come diva is like mega strong wut with those cool moves and super speed.. and why the hell is Saya weak.. i mean seriously they're sisters, and Saya's an original juz like Diva and yet she doesnt have those abilities (or maybe its still yet to be discovered.. we're at flippin' episode 36 though >_>).. :@ she's juz like a girl who's only good at wielding a katana nothing more. it pisses me off..
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Oct 28, 2010 6:27 PM
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I guess that's cuz Saya is always holding back her powers, had that amnesia and stuff. And Diva is trusting and sadic, it's not about a difference of powers, it's about knowing how to use them or not.
Jan 11, 2011 6:23 PM

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Haji got hurt so many times and lost a lot of blood and plus he's feeding Saya, how does he replace all the blood lost?
Aug 4, 2011 1:52 AM

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It appears to me that Nathan is even stronger than James as a chevalier, hence the threat that made James back down.
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Aug 28, 2011 7:02 AM

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I think I know what is wrong with Saya. She should be on par with Diva's abilities, and yet all we see is a hot katana wielding chick with the skills of an amateur. The reason? She's bearing the whole burden by herself! She is plagued by guilt and suffering, and thus her weakness in combat.

Just my two cents.

rodac said:
It appears to me that Nathan is even stronger than James as a chevalier, hence the threat that made James back down.

Definitely seems that way. Don't know why, but I kinda like Nathan (and Solomon).
Oct 1, 2011 11:42 PM

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dam I really like Nathan as a character loved the part where he made James back down lol
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Mar 31, 2012 12:07 AM

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Haha, finally! I think she'll start to unleash her true potential from here on out since she was hesitant from her real nature. It was an alright ep, the reporter seems to be useful now, I always liked his character. I wonder how the organization (Red Shield) will proceed going forward.
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Apr 7, 2012 3:18 PM

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Finnaly we get to see some of James' abilities . Also , the 5 Chevaliers of Diva doesn't seem to understand so well . So it will be nice to see what happens .
May 14, 2012 7:29 PM

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Lol shouldn't act all cool when you cant even back it up!

I also liked the pen scene, made me laugh. xD
Jan 23, 2013 12:52 PM

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So Saya is still weak...And just when I was thinking that she god pretty strong.

Jan 23, 2013 12:53 PM

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So Saya still can't beat anyone...Atleast we get to see James in action.

Apr 25, 2013 10:49 PM

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i kinda understand why saya is the way she is...

kinda wondering how this anime is going to end
Jul 9, 2013 3:37 PM

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I understand her perspective and having watched farther I know that for Saya it's not only emotionally draining, but the show itself has definitely slowed down. In this period of episodes 30-40's it's very slow for me that i actually felt like i'm having to force myself to watch through it, so bored that i have to have other tabs open too. The waiting period between the final battle with Diva has been extremely slow and stretched. (This is just my opinion)

It's smart on their part because they can give a lot of character development and make it seem more realistic than having them get a drastic change in fighting skill and in personality. But it's been really hard to watch when only one small fight happens per episode (if we're lucky). I definitely liked being thrown into the world of madness and death better.
Aug 8, 2013 4:49 PM

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sminkle said:
I understand her perspective and having watched farther I know that for Saya it's not only emotionally draining, but the show itself has definitely slowed down. In this period of episodes 30-40's it's very slow for me that i actually felt like i'm having to force myself to watch through it, so bored that i have to have other tabs open too. The waiting period between the final battle with Diva has been extremely slow and stretched. (This is just my opinion)

It's smart on their part because they can give a lot of character development and make it seem more realistic than having them get a drastic change in fighting skill and in personality. But it's been really hard to watch when only one small fight happens per episode (if we're lucky). I definitely liked being thrown into the world of madness and death better.


You're not the only one, I watched about 32 episodes within 5 days, but in the last week or so now I've watched barely 4 episodes, it's just boring, I have to agree to the good character development, but in the grand scheme of things it's bringing the total score down of the whole thing, you can't make the episodes so boring that it turns away your audience.

Only bad thing about this episode is once again, Saya's life is spared thanks to one of Diva's chevaliers...like it's great suspense the first two times you do it, but I mean come on writers, you really can't think of anything that could end the battle differently?


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Nov 12, 2013 2:49 AM
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Saya is WEAK AND ANNOYING!! I thought she'd finally get stronger now...I guess she is against the chiropteran but not against the chevaliers. What a crap out. The only reason I keep watching this show is because I like Haji and the other chevaliers have potential to be interesting.
Dec 20, 2013 4:30 AM

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4/5

These bets are giving dribs and drabs the various vicissitudes, Ugh! I want more, too short, the various battles and twists never really greedy.
That advances the plot, but I do not understand in that direction! ^ ^ "
Saya narrative should be changed, but it seems a little! D:
Poor Haji!
Mar 8, 2016 1:53 PM

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Nathan is not as simply as he seemed.

Also what is wrong with Saya? She thinks she can give others the cold shoulder and not have the strength to back it up? Like I understood her being weak and uncertain before the time skip, but now she is acting bitchy. Yet she doesn't have the strength to back what she is doing :/

Haji getting one shot as per usual.
Jun 3, 2016 7:49 PM

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Wow Haji is outrunning Kenny from South Park.
How many times did he get impaled?
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Jul 24, 2016 9:57 AM
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Goku said:
Nathan is not as simply as he seemed.

Also what is wrong with Saya? She thinks she can give others the cold shoulder and not have the strength to back it up? Like I understood her being weak and uncertain before the time skip, but now she is acting bitchy. Yet she doesn't have the strength to back what she is doing :/

Haji getting one shot as per usual.


I think it purely comes down to how much the two girls eat, I think Saya has refused to drink blood for that year except for haji's blood, and most likely only drinking small amounts, whilst the tendency from diva's camp seems to be drinking humans dry like they were candy and not doing it through an IV either. Saya is most likely weak due to malnourishment as a result.
Sep 27, 2020 11:09 AM

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And Saya lost...again.
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I wonder if Julia knows that she is working for the enemy that she swore to destroy and is betraying everyone.
May 28, 2023 9:36 AM

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Man, the writing in this show sure can be repetitive. How many times now has Haji been stabbed through the chest during battle? At this point, that's lost all impact. We know he's gonna be fine. 

Initially, I didn't like Kai, but his character development, especially during the past few eps, has redeemed him. I actually quite like his dynamic with David and Lewis. Overall, Saya is currently the least interesting character out of the whole cast, in my opinion... which is a shame since this is supposed to be her show.  
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