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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- All three trays are jammed, but the bog survives for another episode. |
| AKUMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! This arc is so drawn-out, yet so bloody awesome. |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
| I've been patient, but I just can't take it anymore. Was hoping this would be my third 10 ever, but it wasn't meant to be. The probability of not a single ball (out of the dozens upon dozens that made it to the final tray...) landing into the winning hole has got to be abysmally small. Not to mention the freakin rigged hole has been completely sealed off, and the bog still continues to make Kaiji his bitch. P.S. Will this arc ever conclude? My God. |
KilluanSep 8, 2011 5:29 AM
| 3 more weeks of zawa... zawa... I hope the mahjong arc will be animated as well. |
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| Man, Kaiji already jammed the 3 trays and still it's not over yet!! 3 more eps to go!! |
| I hope there's a reason the balls are avoiding the winning hole that much, and they're not just doing it to extend the show even more. Intense episode though. |
"Eat my dead cock" - Dax Riggs |
| No one understand what is the problem with the winning hole ? Hahaha. ^^ |
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| I love Kaiji, but Im sick of the bog, the tricks are ridiculous at this point and this is endless. If it is going on during the last three episodes, it will be really boring. |
| I love how many things they compare the balls to each time.. |
ShiroiRyu said: No one understand what is the problem with the winning hole ? Hahaha. ^^ Or no one cares any more. Happens when it gets this ridiculous. Razmalone said: People are seriously complaining about this amazing arc? Wow. Just wow. You call the exact same episode for 10 weeks an amazing arc? |
Razmalone said: mueske said: You call the exact same episode for 10 weeks an amazing arc? Are me and you watching the same show? Besides, thirteen was around Sakazakis arc, and we've had a few slow episodes with Kaiji planning, then it's been batshit insane since then. The pins trick (Simple but amazing) The candy flippers. (Fucking awesome, but a tad unrealistic, probaly the weakest) HE FUCKING CLOGGED EVERY SINGLE HOLE ON THE PLATES. HE TILTED A BUILDING. HOW ARE ANY OF THESE AT ALL THE SAME EPISODE? You want same episode? Go watch Dragonball Z. Go watch Endless 8. This is nothing like that at all. You probaly didn't even know what the hell Pachinko was before this. God help you on the Mahjong arc. It doesn't matter, considering it all reaped the same result. Several bouts of ingenious is supposed to bring about positive results, but there is always some gimmick there to rape Kaiji from behind. I'm sorry but defeating the third tray has been ridiculously drawn out, and the only reason he hasn't won already is a result of terribly bad luck. Albeit, it's still one of my favorite shows, but this is just becoming ridiculous. |
KilluanSep 8, 2011 12:09 PM
| Oh yes, it's not normal the bog is not possible to win ! YES ! Why a casino will not give 700 millions of yen for each customer who try to play the bog ? O_o |
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| This Bog machine is killing me. Kaiji def has everything set now for a win with the third tray clogged so it's just a matter of time until it he wins or something else goes wrong but man does this show know how to make suspense. I'm guessing the next episode will be the end of this arc. |
| lol I love how they always find ways to drag the scenes. It was like that in the manga too but since you can flip through quite easily it's not that bad. As an anime though... it can be painful to watch. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| I thought the 2 balls were gonna get stuck but then they spilt. could Kaiji really not pull this victory off? I wouldnt be suprised either way at this point |
| FUUUUUUU....please end the bog arc ...quickly ..i have enough off rolling balls .. |
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Razmalone said: People are seriously complaining about this amazing arc? Wow. Just wow. People are seriously calling this arc amazing ? Wow. Just wow. |
Razmalone said: God help you on the Mahjong arc. You cant have a mahjong arc if u waste 2/3 of a season in the bog arc :) , we now have to wait some years for the third season , and how knows , maybe we dont get a third season. btw i knew they gonna pull something about that secret way they were talking like... 6 episodes ago? good luck i have good memory. |
| This amount of suspense is unbearable. Truly epic. On a side note, I believe the 2 balls that did not go in was probably the 'trump card' which Ichijou ordered his men to find wayyy back in ep 20. Just a hunch. |
They see me trollin', they hatin'. |
mueske said: You call the exact same episode for 10 weeks an amazing arc? It's not. It just has a delightfully slow pacing (something that more shows should have). The way the show is set up makes me beg for more and more. If the pacing were any faster that would not be the case. Granted, watching a show like this takes a bit of a longer attention span. That's fine. If you don't like the show or feel that you are starting to find it dreary then why are you still watching? Anyhow, my theory is that there's a magnet inside the winning hole repelling the balls. I'm not sure. My guess is that at some point the third tray will have so many balls in it that one will have to go in. |
Killuan said: I'm with you on this one man. We are getting trolled hardcore!I've been patient, but I just can't take it anymore. Was hoping this would be my third 10 ever, but it wasn't meant to be. The probability of not a single ball (out of the dozens upon dozens that made it to the final tray...) landing into the winning hole has got to be abysmally small. Not to mention the freakin rigged hole has been completely sealed off, and the bog still continues to make Kaiji his bitch. P.S. Will this arc ever conclude? My God. |
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| Only one word ... EPIC !! *O* nerve breaking .. but i just cant get enough of it ^O^ |
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Razmalone said: Are me and you watching the same show? Besides, thirteen was around Sakazakis arc, and we've had a few slow episodes with Kaiji planning, then it's been batshit insane since then. The pins trick (Simple but amazing) The candy flippers. (Fucking awesome, but a tad unrealistic, probaly the weakest) HE FUCKING CLOGGED EVERY SINGLE HOLE ON THE PLATES. HE TILTED A BUILDING. HOW ARE ANY OF THESE AT ALL THE SAME EPISODE? You want same episode? Go watch Dragonball Z. Go watch Endless 8. This is nothing like that at all. You probaly didn't even know what the hell Pachinko was before this. God help you on the Mahjong arc. Don't go patronizing me, it colours you more than it does me. lewiszim said: It's not. It just has a delightfully slow pacing (something that more shows should have). The way the show is set up makes me beg for more and more. If the pacing were any faster that would not be the case. Granted, watching a show like this takes a bit of a longer attention span. That's fine. If you don't like the show or feel that you are starting to find it dreary then why are you still watching?. So it's my problem? My attention span isn't long enough? Sure that's it, it's not the bad writing at all. If the tricks he used were even a little more fulfilling, then I'd be a lot more forgiving. But alas, no more true mind games like in the first Kaiji. And I do not have to justify why I'm still watching it. |
| I don't get why people are surprised at the slow pacing of the anime, Kaiji is like that. In the manga the Bog arc is like 5 tomes long too. I can understand that some people wouldn't like that but that's one of the characteristic of Kaiji that sets it apart from others. Also in 4 episodes, I don't see what else could have been started since even the dice arc lasted longer than that. Anyways, another good episode. I do know why it happened though ^^ Razmalone said: God help you on the Mahjong arc. I will probably be a full 26 episode season for it. Sadly, I'm not looking forward to it because I hate mahjong. |
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| its a bit drawn out yes but its amazing and ffs there are ppl who dont read manga ty for spoiling about mahjong shit bunch of retards |
| “If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you don’t fight, you can’t win.” |
| If the last hole really is blocked by some kind of magnet, like some of you above implied, I'd be most disappointed Ichijo said himself not all balls are made of steel, some are made of Brass - hence, a magnet wouldn't work unless there are steel balls inside the machine - not a bulletproof plan - not awesome ^ That sort of result would be pretty lame. Either way, I gotta say I love this show I understand all of you guys' posts about the past 10 ep' being repetitive and all, but seriously, this is Kaiji I've watched ep 1-23 is 2 days True - most of ep 15~23 didnt have that much new stuff in 'em, but the suspense this show is creating, MAN Whether the last 3 ep go to a new arc, or if they just keep having the balls ramming into each other aimlessly until the producers are fed up - either way, I'm good this show has 'awesomeness' written all over it |
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| Steins;gate is decent, but in terms of suspense/tension, this makes SG look like Sesame Street. |
| First I was like: :D, but then: O_O What the heck is happening again? ._. It's so intense, I love it...but still I want Kaiji to win this...I mean I thought it was already one..5 episodes ago! |
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| ITT: Some people watching Fukumoto anime who don't have the patience to be watching Fukumoto anime. |
| How the hell did the balls get repelled?! |
| Meh I wanted 4 games like season 1 (though the last game was short). They milked the Pachinko arc a little imo. The suspence is once again through the roof though xD. |
DerpyderpSep 10, 2011 4:47 PM
| EroGaki passed away after watching Kaiji: Hakairoku Hen 23rd episode. |
Qashqai said: Crap, what was THAT?! What is wrong with the hole again? AlexSadist-sama said: How the hell did the balls get repelled?! It really blows when someone posts spoilers without hiding them, so here it is, hidden. You have been warned: |
AkagiSep 11, 2011 2:09 AM
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Adam_Bomb said: Steins;gate is decent, but in terms of suspense/tension, this makes SG look like Sesame Street. LOOOOOOOOL good one xD |
| People complaining about the Bog have clearly never read Akagi. If you want a painfully long and overdrawn, yet awesome arc then look no further than the Washizu match. Last I checked it's still going. Fukumoto has a penchant for long arcs, and it's prevalent in literally all of his works. |
ZyglroxSep 11, 2011 7:35 AM
sidjtd said: > You want same episode? Go watch Dragonball Z. Go watch Endless 8. This is nothing like that at all. You probaly didn't even know what the hell Pachinko was before this. God help you on the Mahjong arc. >>> Don't go patronizing me, it colours you more than it does me. How did he even patronize you? Kaiji's pachinko machine wasn't even designed to actually win, and each episode shows how Kaiji and Ichijou's own careful planning is beating or being beaten by one another, and the consequences of their actions or lack thereof is screwing each other. Dragonball literally has nothing happening with people standing around for episodes (sometimes barely talking even) And besides if you felt patronized, have you actually played Pachinko? I've lived in Japan for 10 years and even I haven't played pachinko. So kudos to you if you feel insulted for a baseless claim attacking you but most likely he is right. >>>So it's my problem? My attention span isn't long enough? Sure that's it, it's not the bad writing at all. If the tricks he used were even a little more fulfilling, then I'd be a lot more forgiving. But alas, no more true mind games like in the first Kaiji Its not bad writing if you know what Fukumoto has to offer and you're supposedly a fan of his style. His manga is one of the only manga's out there to draw out everything and he makes no secret of it. Hell, the dice arc had a whole episode dedicated to THREE DICE ROLLS. Considering some episodes go through 2500 pachinko balls in one episode (10 million yens worth) I say that is not that different. Furthermore the creators style has never changed other than getting better throughout the years (until very recently, like 2010) from his manga's he's written and drawn before BOTH Akagi and Kaiji like Kin & Gin, Ten to name the classics. Mind games? Sure Kaiji 1 had a few of those, but the Human horse race and Tissue raffle were more about courage and pushing forward, coming up with schemes on a limited time span and the Pachinko arc is similar to that except with elaborate set up episodes after the initial failure of Sakazaki's plan. Pachinko may be novel to you but its a gamble thats as normal and classic in Japan as playing Poker, so it was a theme that was not only close to the heart but appropriate for its primary target audience in Japan. >>> And I do not have to justify why I'm still watching it. You really don't have to justify it, but whining through anything in life, even an anime message board, is not going to get you anywhere. If this was a shitty anime adaptation that's one thing, but this is pretty much identical to the original story material (if not actually faster) and if you find that to suck, then don't do stuff that sucks, ala watching the show. Doing stuff that makes you feel pain is like a person complaining he hates pain but continues being in pain. That's called masochist. Maybe that's not something you have to justify to us, but it does raise a concern. Besides you could sure take some friendly advice and save yourself the pain if you're having such a miserably and hateful time watching the show. So I'm a masochist who's after all not a fan of Fukumoto. Nice of you to join to tell me that. :) |
Zyglrox said: People complaining about the Bog have clearly never read Akagi. If you want a painfully long and overdrawn, yet awesome arc then look no further than the Washizu match. Last I checked it's still going. Fukumoto has a penchant for long arcs, and it's prevalent in literally all of his works. I dont like the bog itself , its not about the duration , i mean , if a good arc last 10 ep i have no problem , but i simply dont like this arc , and the fact that it last forever is even worse for me. |
AlexSadist-sama said: How the hell did the balls get repelled?! I guess Ichijou's henchmen did something. Remember in the previous episodes they went somewhere to... bring him something? I already forgot what exactly happened xD. |
| The balls are inert. |
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| I think Lady Luck just messing with Kaiji in this episode~ |
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