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Sep 20, 2011 5:19 PM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Kaiji is a bitch.
Finally the ball is in the hole. \o/
 
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Sep 20, 2011 5:32 PM
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Oh my god KAIJI knows how to build up excitement !!! cant wait for the next episode :DDD
 
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Those damn balls, seriously! XD
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Sep 20, 2011 7:11 PM

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OMG, Ichijou's scream when he was about to lose was like "HOLY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU". Will he really work for 1050 years btw ? Hyoudo that son of sadomasochist lulz.
 
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Sep 20, 2011 7:16 PM

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Finally busted a nut.
 
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Sep 20, 2011 7:41 PM
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It was less epic than I tough it would be, manga was better.
 
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Sep 20, 2011 8:35 PM

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good episode. finally the suspense has ended... those three will def get paid and ichijou will be in hell forever..
 
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Sep 20, 2011 9:05 PM

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Wasn't Kaiji's time up, like, two episodes ago? :v
 
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Sep 20, 2011 10:26 PM

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... and then people say they dont drag out this , i was glad he won anyway , i thought they gonna left it for next episode.



Worst kaiji arc imo.
 
Sep 20, 2011 10:46 PM
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I dont f*** get it. Whats this thing with hyoudou at the end??? 1050 years of hard labor? 15 years per 10 million yen? what the heck is he talking about??

woot for kaiji. I hope they come out with another arc. Im betting they will if there still releasing movies.
 
Sep 20, 2011 11:11 PM

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^ He's talking about Ichijou
 
Sep 20, 2011 11:50 PM

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Sep 21, 2011 12:03 AM

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At last .......KAIJI YOU JUST WON !!!!!!!


damn great ep

can't wait for the next eps
 
Sep 21, 2011 12:30 AM

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Watched it in fast forward like half of the serie. Terrible pacing, just terrible.

The pachinko arc is terrible for a lot of different reasons. All the games Kaiji played in until now always included some kind of cheating but using the strength of his mind, Kaiji's managed to overcome terrible obstacles. This was what made the other (quite simple) games so intresting: those mind games (they were also quite short).

But the bog? What's the skill in the bog arc? Kaiji tilted a building with water, managed to put fake parts into it, moved the forest of pins. Of camera. Those were obviously not the main show. No: that was kaiji screaming and crying for about half of the serie as he simply watched balls falling down. How much thunderclaps, mad narration, crazy directing (with this camera following the balls everywhere) can save such a boring premise? Litterally NOTHING happened in the pachinko arc, they just played the same machine for a couple of times in order to grasp a vague possibility. This is probably the biggest insult: Kaiji didn't mature at all. He was a loser that lost in the past because he thought that praying was a good idea (which costed him four fingers) and he is a loser now. The only difference is that he is protect by some of the most ludicrous plot haxes I've ever seen in my whole life.

Terrible, just terrible. And I thought the Chinchirorin arc was slow.
 
Sep 21, 2011 4:03 AM

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Totally agree with you Ukyo9. The worst arch ever.
 
Sep 21, 2011 4:14 AM

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Finally its about time.

Im glad this arc is over . Bog arc wasnt that good compared to the rest so far.

No matter what happens in the last ep Kaiji s1 >> Kaiji s2 .
 
Sep 21, 2011 6:29 AM

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i cant believe people are calling this the worst arc ever. yea ill admit it was longer than it shouldv been but it was so intense each ep which made up for the length imo. i loved it.
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No matter what happens in the last ep Kaiji s1 >> Kaiji s2 .

agreed. the 2nd season is really good but i just cant see it being better than s1.
5/5
 
Sep 21, 2011 7:30 AM

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Manly tears!! Damn, how much money did they won??

I won't say anything to the arc as a whole until the next ep.

Also, time for Ichijou spin-off lulz.

 
Sep 21, 2011 11:10 AM

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Ukyo9 said:
Watched it in fast forward like half of the serie. Terrible pacing, just terrible.

The pachinko arc is terrible for a lot of different reasons. All the games Kaiji played in until now always included some kind of cheating but using the strength of his mind, Kaiji's managed to overcome terrible obstacles. This was what made the other (quite simple) games so intresting: those mind games (they were also quite short).

But the bog? What's the skill in the bog arc? Kaiji tilted a building with water, managed to put fake parts into it, moved the forest of pins. Of camera. Those were obviously not the main show. No: that was kaiji screaming and crying for about half of the serie as he simply watched balls falling down. How much thunderclaps, mad narration, crazy directing (with this camera following the balls everywhere) can save such a boring premise? Litterally NOTHING happened in the pachinko arc, they just played the same machine for a couple of times in order to grasp a vague possibility. This is probably the biggest insult: Kaiji didn't mature at all. He was a loser that lost in the past because he thought that praying was a good idea (which costed him four fingers) and he is a loser now. The only difference is that he is protect by some of the most ludicrous plot haxes I've ever seen in my whole life.

Terrible, just terrible. And I thought the Chinchirorin arc was slow.



This , rewatching first season now seems godlike , makes this look like shit.
 
Sep 21, 2011 12:30 PM

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The end of this episode was brilliant.
Finally he won and the appearance of Sakazaki was epic.
All in all it was a great episode.
But I have to agree that the first season, especially the second Arc, was better than this season. The thrill in the first season was outstanding.
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Sep 21, 2011 2:32 PM

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AceIII said:
No matter what happens in the last ep Kaiji s1 >> Kaiji s2 .

Agreed. The first season is pure gold.

I liked the first arc of this season pretty much but the bog arc is just too dragging and a little boring to me since I love mind games and the bog doesn't really have that kind of "let's predict what's going to happen next and change the plan accordingly" aspect.

But yeah, one more episode to go...
 
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Wasn't Kaiji's time up, like, two episodes ago? :v


maybe, but they can't interrupt the gamble. It would make Teiai look bad, and people would stop going to the casino.
 
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Ukyo9 said:
This is probably the biggest insult: Kaiji didn't mature at all. He was a loser that lost in the past because he thought that praying was a good idea (which costed him four fingers) and he is a loser now.




 
Sep 21, 2011 4:32 PM

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Once I saw the balls go in, that was amazing. Most relief I've felt watching any anime.
 
Sep 21, 2011 7:53 PM
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thats what she said _)#EI#()E#R#()
 
Sep 22, 2011 4:56 AM

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you kids should go back to shounens if kaiji s2 is that bad, seriously, stop watching it, its not for everyone
 
Sep 22, 2011 8:10 AM

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Epic.

Also S2 better than S1.
 
Sep 22, 2011 9:35 AM
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I'm speechless. This was so intense.

Really looking forward to last episode, which to me will determine weither it is better or not than S1 ( which was amazing too !! ).
 
Sep 22, 2011 9:35 AM

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Well, s1 is a little better than s2, but still. Kaiji is better than all that shounen or moeblob fanservice crap animes out there nowadays.

Also i hope for third season. Very much manga material still out there. And its still ongoing. We should expect 3th season in about 2 years.
 
Sep 22, 2011 11:33 AM
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They didn't even cry half as hard back on 9/11 as full Kaiji cast.
 
Sep 22, 2011 8:49 PM

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So many balls and they finally went into the hole... and the holes opened up.
 
Sep 23, 2011 4:06 AM

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fasbq said:
It was less epic than I tough it would be, manga was better.


+1 manga was more EPIC !!

Davros95 said:
They didn't even cry half as hard back on 9/11 as full Kaiji cast.


LOOOL
 
Sep 25, 2011 12:13 AM

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you kids should go back to shounens if kaiji s2 is that bad, seriously, stop watching it, its not for everyone


Agreed, haters gonna hate.

I loved this arc. All the build up was perfect, the pacing was amazing. I really felt like i was in the crowd during the show. It really pulled me in.

I wish there was a s3. But I dont see it happening for a while so I'll just pray that it'll get a s3 in a couple of years.

Bring on the last ep, my body is ready!
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Sep 25, 2011 8:12 AM

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Finally, he wins something xD. But there are still 2 manga series left so 2 anime seasons. So someone will probably steal the money or something. Atleast he will still have a debt in the end. I'm also pretty sure Endou will betray him at some point.... Again...
 
Sep 25, 2011 5:44 PM

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This season is insanely random.

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They didn't even cry half as hard back on 9/11 as full Kaiji cast.


That was cruel!


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I'm also pretty sure Endou will betray him at some point.... Again...

Yeah, I think so too. Earlier on in the series Kaiji said how you have to be careful signing a contract with Endou, but when Kaiji needed to borrow extra money from him, he hastily signed the new contract and rushed off afterwards without properly looking at it. Seemed fishy to me.

Aslo, personally I think this arc has been great. Though that's probably down to me being able to marathon most of it. Sure, it's reeeeally dragged out, but damn is it entertaining.
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Sep 27, 2011 10:11 PM

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I Agree that season 1 was more profound and better paced, but the sheer intensity and anxiousness i felt from the bog is indescribable, that's what made it special, yes it was simple, but at the same time it was nerve-wracking, as it was in the manga
 
Sep 30, 2011 8:46 PM

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Personally, i marathoned this series and it wasn't even half bad. I can see how it would be bad if you waited a week for another slow episode but this season made me as tense and glued as season 1.
IMO, season 1 = season 2.
 
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VICTORY!!!

HOLY SHIT, That took forever!!!
 
May 23, 2012 9:54 AM
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Ukyo9 said:
Watched it in fast forward like half of the serie. Terrible pacing, just terrible.

The pachinko arc is terrible for a lot of different reasons. All the games Kaiji played in until now always included some kind of cheating but using the strength of his mind, Kaiji's managed to overcome terrible obstacles. This was what made the other (quite simple) games so intresting: those mind games (they were also quite short).

But the bog? What's the skill in the bog arc?


What skills/mind games were involved in the bridge arc?

What skills were invovled the E-Card game (it was nothing but cheating)?

What ridiculous skills were involved in the terrible tissue box game??
 
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Kaiji is one of the few series I can't feel the time passing by, I think the immersion is unbeliavable. I enjoyed the Bog Arc, but they could have finished it with less episodes (4 or 5 less).

The despair is convincing, but one think I did not enjoy was the plain cheating and the crowd not saying anything, that was awkward.
 
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I dont f*** get it. Whats this thing with hyoudou at the end??? 1050 years of hard labor? 15 years per 10 million yen? what the heck is he talking about??

woot for kaiji. I hope they come out with another arc. Im betting they will if there still releasing movies.


Ichijou theoratically has to work for 1050 years underground to repay his debt, but since that´s impossible they might force his family to do it. This is a mafia organization we're talking about after all.

... and then people say they dont drag out this , i was glad he won anyway , i thought they gonna left it for next episode.
Worst kaiji arc imo.


They only dragged the last 5 episode, otherwise it was a pretty good arc. And if you watch it when completed it's not thát bad, will keep you constantly at the edge of your seat.
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TheBastid said:
Ukyo9 said:
Watched it in fast forward like half of the serie. Terrible pacing, just terrible.

The pachinko arc is terrible for a lot of different reasons. All the games Kaiji played in until now always included some kind of cheating but using the strength of his mind, Kaiji's managed to overcome terrible obstacles. This was what made the other (quite simple) games so intresting: those mind games (they were also quite short).

But the bog? What's the skill in the bog arc?


What skills/mind games were involved in the bridge arc?

What skills were invovled the E-Card game (it was nothing but cheating)?

What ridiculous skills were involved in the terrible tissue box game??


This is a gambling series, you think you can always rely on skill for that?

I found the bridge game to be one of the best arcs, just because it involved a lot more people making more possibilities for twists. There was way more going on at the same time instead of 1 vs 1 like most of the arcs.
 
Sep 27, 2012 12:23 PM

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Fuck the balls, the prize is theirs xD

HE'S FINALLY DONE IT!

This arc was really agonizing.
 
Oct 5, 2012 10:17 AM

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Finally!! This was the episode everyone was waiting for! It was quite annoying to see almost the entire season devoted to Kaiji paying against the machine.


 
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So many manly tears... Also:

 
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I can agree that the first season was better, but this was still enjoyable. I don't really think that difference in pacing was that big, compared to the previous season.

Ukyo9 said:
Watched it in fast forward like half of the serie.


I sincerely hope you're joking. It can't be possible for someone to be this retarded.
 
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You know what? This was actually how I was thinking he was gonna win! I thought about it way before the air trick tough. I thought there was some impossible tilt near the hole or something but I guessed the push right. I didn't actually expect it to happen since it's super ridiculous but...

Anyway, like the rest, good to see the suspense end. I watched both seasons in like 1-2 days each so I wasn't annoyed as much as you about the drag but yeah it was dragged. I wouldn't wanna be following it weekly.

Lastly, Hyoudou strikes again. The guy is a total sick bastard. "Deal with him" LOL.
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Jun 29, 2014 1:49 PM

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Finally its time to chase the light!!!!!!! Kaiji is free from debt and can save the 45s.

And I agree with most of the comments here it was dragged out way too long, they probably could have done it in about half the episodes, soredemo, when it was epic it was Fuckin Epic!
 
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FINALLY THE BOG ARC COMES TO AN END! No but seriously that episode was fucking powerful.

 
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