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May 14, 2011 7:50 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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So this episode everyone learns that Ace is Roger's son, and Sabo's father has put out a finder's fee. Also, we learn of the Celestial Dragons coming to the island come Spring. So much lead up it's almost unbearable, but I think I'll manage.

Overall, not a bad episode.
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May 14, 2011 8:06 PM
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I loved this episode. I always wondered what Luffy's reaction was when he found about Ace's father and I'm glad it was added to the animation. I kind of like that that Toei is adding all this stuff that wasn't in the manga...it makes things more interesting.
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May 14, 2011 8:23 PM
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Not a bad episode. I almost expected Luffy's "apprenticeship" to be carried out under the tiger, especially when it licked him.
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May 14, 2011 10:43 PM
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Nice episode but it seems that this is dragging a bit too long. I really want to see the next arc now...

May 15, 2011 12:11 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMTaRzUiB2w preview, next episode is also filler
May 15, 2011 12:15 AM
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This honestly kind of sucks. I thought this flashback was almost to draw out in the manga, and the anime is just making it worse. After next weeks ep it'll be four episodes for one chapter, which is just ridiculous. You know they're just going to lengthen the crew flashes that are coming up after this arc which will definitly by them a lot of time. Id ratherthey just animate this flashback normally and then do that, and maybe take a month off at the same point the manga did.
May 15, 2011 1:20 AM
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4/5, wasnt so bad, more reason to like, than dislike it
May 15, 2011 2:05 AM
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It doesn't get us anywhere. They just want to make the gap between anime and manga bigger.
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So much lead up it's almost unbearable, but I think I'll manage.

Let's be patient. (I'm repeating to myself)
mundo said:
This honestly kind of sucks. I thought this flashback was almost to draw out in the manga, and the anime is just making it worse. After next weeks ep it'll be four episodes for one chapter, which is just ridiculous. You know they're just going to lengthen the crew flashes that are coming up after this arc which will definitly by them a lot of time. Id ratherthey just animate this flashback normally and then do that, and maybe take a month off at the same point the manga did.

I think their gonna make episodes about the crew like they did before: 2 crew mates for an episode. They could
and that is why I think they rather drag those flashbacks than actual plot. Let's wait for the end of the current arc in the manga and I think the action in anime will get faster :)

3/5 - episode was good but we have seen better ones...
May 15, 2011 2:05 AM
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nice... one more ep of filler and back to main story i guess..

they sure are taking their time =)
May 15, 2011 2:06 AM

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mundo said:
This honestly kind of sucks. I thought this flashback was almost to draw out in the manga, and the anime is just making it worse. After next weeks ep it'll be four episodes for one chapter, which is just ridiculous. You know they're just going to lengthen the crew flashes that are coming up after this arc which will definitly by them a lot of time. Id ratherthey just animate this flashback normally and then do that, and maybe take a month off at the same point the manga did.


Nah I think they will be back to 1 chapter per episode or maybe go for 1.5chapter per episode. I actually just noticed how they added the stuff that Oda just made short, next episode they will finish the chapter they are in and go back to 1 chapter per episode pace. I'm sure of it. :>
May 15, 2011 3:18 AM

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i love op but this was a boring ep....
May 15, 2011 3:29 AM

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After this flashback there is still a lot of the post-war arc still to cover before the 2 years later, this flashback is just part of the post-war arc. I don't really want to spoil the manga but with the current pace I could see the timeskip happening around episode 510-515 depending how they drag things.

It's a bit slow but I still really enjoyed this episode. I really enjoyed this flashback in the manga so a bit of extra to it in the anime is quite nice but lets face it, everyone wants the timeskip to hurry the fuck up lol.
May 15, 2011 4:30 AM
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Was Naguri in the manga, I don't remember... ?
May 15, 2011 6:02 AM

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KaizokuBeatle said:
I really enjoyed this flashback in the manga so a bit of extra to it in the anime is quite nice but lets face it, everyone wants the timeskip to hurry the fuck up lol.

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Was Naguri in the manga, I don't remember... ?

No, he wasn't. In the manga plot from current episodes was shown as simple pictures, like e.g. a picture of Luffy almost felling from the bridge and Ace&Sado helping him. Anime stuff is just getting one picture and adding some plot to it.
May 15, 2011 6:17 AM

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Rofl, what an amusing episode. Luffy and his casual discussion with Ace, at least they are making this enjoyable... Id rather watch an enjoyable flashback then some flashback which doesn't really connect to the story...
May 15, 2011 7:02 AM

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Since the old man is so epic with Haki and makes passing mention of Roger, it's acceptable filler.

Ace never got over hating Roger, did he?
May 15, 2011 2:10 PM

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Luffy is so casual.
May 16, 2011 4:21 AM

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Am I the only one who enjoys these eps? Don't get me wrong, I REALLY want to see the crew again, but i'm still really enjoying these flash backs. Though it's killing me; I want to know what happens to sabo... RIGHT NOW D<
May 16, 2011 12:59 PM

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KaizokuBeatle said:

It's a bit slow but I still really enjoyed this episode. I really enjoyed this flashback in the manga so a bit of extra to it in the anime is quite nice but lets face it, everyone wants the timeskip to hurry the fuck up lol.


Indeed.
May 17, 2011 10:56 AM

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Ok episode. I had quite a few laughs ;].

May 17, 2011 2:31 PM

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Am I the only one who enjoys these eps? Don't get me wrong, I REALLY want to see the crew again, but i'm still really enjoying these flash backs. Though it's killing me; I want to know what happens to sabo... RIGHT NOW D<

I'm with u 100% on that i feel the same way lol so ur not the only one :D
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May 19, 2011 2:22 PM
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weee. I'm loving this arc
May 20, 2011 12:58 PM
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I am totally in agreement with the folks on page 2. This arc is pretty darn good. They do a great job of maintaining the qualities of the characters but still showing how much they have to grow. Not to mention Luffy is hilarious when he is little or big.

Perhaps it's just me but when I find something good I don't like it to end, So I am really in no rush to get through the story and catch up to the manga. As long as the episodes they pump out now are quality productions.
May 25, 2011 11:14 AM

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The build-up is getting a little bit slow now.
May 28, 2011 12:15 AM

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Lol @ Luffy "not saying a word" about Roger being Ace's dad.
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Aug 1, 2011 10:34 AM

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I nearly feel out of my chair when Luffy walked in and said that. Was priceless.

I'm loving the pace of the anime so far. You really get to the feel the connection build between these three, which will definitely make the ending of this arc so powerful. Can't wait to finish this arc.
Aug 16, 2011 9:52 AM

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Loved this episode, Luffy's "casual" reaction towards Ace was so funny :P
Aug 27, 2011 5:44 AM

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Average episode.. felt more like a filler? I dunno haha A laid back episode where Luffy first hears about Ace being Roger's child :-) I just want to know what has happened to Sabo now haha
Sep 12, 2011 3:15 PM

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"I am acting Normal!" Luffy is great. The ending makes me worried..
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Sep 18, 2011 9:14 AM

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Sheepshaman said:
GennyMon said:
Am I the only one who enjoys these eps? Don't get me wrong, I REALLY want to see the crew again, but i'm still really enjoying these flash backs. Though it's killing me; I want to know what happens to sabo... RIGHT NOW D<

I'm with u 100% on that i feel the same way lol so ur not the only one :D


I agree. Why rush things when it's entertaining when they don't xD
Dec 16, 2011 2:57 PM

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An okay episodes, some nice revelations.
Jun 15, 2012 8:26 AM

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This arc (even though it's mostly filler) is better than the whole impel down + marinefold arc. Just goes to show how bad the previous arc(s) was. I hope things will get better now.

I guess this proves that fillers, if done right, are better than dragging canon episodes...
Dec 1, 2012 2:51 PM

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they were no match for that bear, they are lucky they didn't run into the tiger

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Dec 17, 2012 2:31 PM

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Luffy: "Ace, I never knew your dad was Gold Rodger" haha
Oct 15, 2014 10:23 PM

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Interesting stuff.
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Nov 17, 2014 4:26 AM

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This is getting boring.

Jun 21, 2015 5:21 AM

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lmoa luffy never changes xDD
Jul 29, 2016 9:52 AM

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An inverted panda is a danpa, das cool

Typical Luffy, an insensitive ignorant bastard as always
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Jun 22, 2017 2:09 PM
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luffy handled the situation like a pro XD


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Luffy just said that it's great to have brothers ;w;


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May 21, 2019 8:39 AM

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These episodes are definitely helping my understanding of Luffy. I always knew he cared for his nakama to the point he'd die for them. But, I contextualized it as that was what he valued and that's what he saw a good man would do. As a way of saying I like that Shanks did that for me so I want to do that for other people, I see Shanks as the ideal person so I too want to be that way. Of course he loved them but I thought it came from who he wanted to be. Yet, we can see more of his motivations now. "Being lonely is more painful than being hurt", and how he always fantasized about having a crew of brothers, he was so happy to have them. There's another layer of vulnerability that makes him more human. He wants friends, he wants a crew that's like a family to him, he cherishes connection and hates having those connections broken. Which goes quite well with his ideal of being like Shanks one day. :>

I felt so bad for the Shanks bear Ace attacked. He saved Luffy from that tiger if I recall when he was chasing Ace. He didn't show aggression towards them until Ace attacked. He has a shanks scar and he protected Luffy, I think that's symbolic of that bears good intentions and I bet we're going to see more of that later.

At first I thought Sabo telling Luffy about Ace's dad was a sign of trust in Luffy, but he told Naguri too. Someone he hardly knows. I'm thinking Sabo may not have as big of a mouth as Luffy but he has a big one too. They don't know they can trust Naguri! And, Ace hearing someone praise the dad he resents must be hard for him. Regardless, "Luffy act casual!", "Don't worry!", "Hey Ace I didn't know you were home!", "Hey Ace I didn't know your father was roger!".

Naguri is quite cute. I like how he was flattered when Luffy complimented him, he definitely doesn't see himself as a great pirate anymore.

So a fair bit is in place now. Sabo's dad now knowing he's alive is getting Bluejam to look for him through his territory. I guess he ended up laying off Ace as they made a name for themselves and to still not be caught is a little odd. That shanks bear is definitely coming back to save the day if you ask me, and now with Bluejam involved again we can probably have Dadan helping the boys too. On top of all of that a Celestial Dragon is coming to Goa Kingdom, I was just comparing them to the royalty of the town in Goa recently... We can assume either Luffy didn't run into them or he forgot about them because as far as I remember he had no clue who Celestial Dragon's were in Sabaody.
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They have a long way to go before they'll be able to beat up that tiger and Bluejam so it's a good thing that the old guy's there to help.

Sabo's father just had to approach the worst and shadiest people for the job, huh. A Celestial Dragon entering the mix makes me want to think that he'll end up getting beaten up and robbed by the kids soon lmao








Jun 1, 2021 12:22 AM

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Luffy, stop saying what you're not supposed to. XD
Jun 22, 2023 2:32 AM
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Oh no fcking Celestial Dragons are coming.
Jun 4, 2024 4:41 PM

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Luffy promised he wouldn’t say anything ^_^
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Probably my least favorite episode of the flashbacks. I’m glad Luffy found out about aces true father. And I guess the old guy could help Luffy fight little better in the upcoming weeks.

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