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Jul 5, 10:27 AM
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I'm baffled by the fact that in this modern-age Japan Shizuka was being abandonned by her guardian for years without any intervention of the authority, and at this point I'm guaranteed that painting the grown-up evil is purely plot convenience.
SgtBateManJul 6, 10:44 AM
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Jul 5, 10:31 AM
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Most anime have plot convenience, nothing special.
Jul 5, 10:36 AM
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Not gonna lie. In my city there are various parts where the parents don’t pay any attention to their children. In most social groups it seems weird or unusual. But there are certainly some where the situation of the anime is realistic sadly.
Jul 5, 10:42 AM
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I mean no offense by this, but you must live in a very privileged area or not had to deal with how ineffective stuff like even the police can be in child abuse cases. My friends teenage sister was on ring camera getting physically thrown to the ground by her father and he was still allowed custody over other family members even after the school and cops got involved, and it wasnt till months later of her living with them in an incident where he choked her and left marks that any sort of action kept them separated.

Now thats a crime involving an adult and evidence which by all accounts should be exponentially more effective to take action with cause you can get arrested for that stuff, then you see first hand how bullying just sort of happens in school systems no matter how blatant especially in a lower economic school (takopi seems to take place in a small rural town) its not uncommon to see at most a minor slap on the wrist. Is it dramatic in this, well yeah no shit theres a magical octopus with time travel abilities, but the lack of anyone doing anything no matter how obvious is incredibly common
JizzyHitlerJul 5, 10:48 AM

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jul 5, 11:13 AM
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So you never been to the hood?
Jul 5, 11:20 AM
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this is more common in real life than you think
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Jul 5, 11:52 AM
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Many children don't have responsible parents or guardians. Sadly, it's a common problem (depending on where you live). Claiming it's "plot convenience" speaks volumes about the sheltered life you live, which isn't bad in and of itself, but you have to learn that other realities exist.

If you're a child, I understand that you don't know how the world works and that it's hard for you to understand that not all parents love their children. But if you're an adult, your ignorance is worrying, and you should go outside more often.

Also, it's not "plot convenience" it's just the plot. If you want the characters to have good parents then you want another story/another anime.
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Jul 5, 12:17 PM
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I mean no offense by this, but you must live in a very privileged area or not had to deal with how ineffective stuff like even the police can be in child abuse cases. My friends teenage sister was on ring camera getting physically thrown to the ground by her father and he was still allowed custody over other family members even after the school and cops got involved, and it wasnt till months later of her living with them in an incident where he choked her and left marks that any sort of action kept them separated.

Now thats a crime involving an adult and evidence which by all accounts should be exponentially more effective to take action with cause you can get arrested for that stuff, then you see first hand how bullying just sort of happens in school systems no matter how blatant especially in a lower economic school (takopi seems to take place in a small rural town) its not uncommon to see at most a minor slap on the wrist. Is it dramatic in this, well yeah no shit theres a magical octopus with time travel abilities, but the lack of anyone doing anything no matter how obvious is incredibly common
@JizzyHitler I'm going to tell you something from experience. The moment adults look away, the bullies come back & it's worse. Or adults in my time wrote it off as "kids being kids". I had adults watch me getting picked on at times. Sometimes they are also scum.
Jul 5, 12:28 PM
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@JizzyHitler I'm going to tell you something from experience. The moment adults look away, the bullies come back & it's worse. Or adults in my time wrote it off as "kids being kids". I had adults watch me getting picked on at times. Sometimes they are also scum.
@Sheol01 If I have to admit to embarrassing anecdotal evidence, when i was a kid in middle school I got put in a headlock by my bully and thrown to the ground in front of the entire class, I was then put on suspension just as long as him cause I "must have done something to provoke it". So yeah, this kind of shit isnt unrealistic unfortunately kids can be psychopaths and adults can be useless.

Japan has a really crazy bully culture too, a really great game on is is the main antagonist of lost judgement was made as a commentary on how common it is for children to be driven to the point of suicide and the bullies always get away with it despite essentially partaking in killing someone, so the main villain is a serial killer who goes after people who drove another kid to suicide and helps the families get revenge on them without getting their hands dirty.
JizzyHitlerJul 5, 12:32 PM

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jul 5, 1:15 PM

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That's a silly criticism for this anime.
If you want an anime which REALLY deserves it, there is it: Hoshiai no Sora, the anime where police simply doesn't exist.
I'll also have to assume that apartment complexes also have no authorities in them that can prevent people from getting in.

In Takopii no Genzai, however, it makes sense: The adults fail by connivance, sloth, turning the blind eye, ignorance, dismissiveness. The children fail by not knowing better and having developed learned helplessness.
Jul 5, 5:32 PM

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they met up with the parents from tokyo revengers and all took a picnic together.
Jul 5, 6:08 PM
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they met up with the parents from tokyo revengers and all took a picnic together.
@ryzxgum And the teachers from Wind Breaker lol
Jul 6, 1:39 AM

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The authority in a first world country didn't even help me solve a simple case of burglary with camera and video evidence lmao what made you think they would intervene with societal problems like bullying and child neglect?
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Jul 6, 6:38 AM
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because unfortunately many times children Don't get the help they should. and it's very common. if you listen to documentaries and all, you'll always come across how everyone turned a blind eye to the abuse. it's very common. more so in Asian countries. in Aida, people will turn their faces away so that they don't get into trouble. they might be hospitable but at the same time, they don't really take abuse seriously. and it's a fact.
over here, in the anime, do you think the teachers can't see the bullying, the wounds, the scribbling on her desk?? they do, they ignore it because first, her mother is a prostitute so society collectively looks down on her, second, it's not their problem. also they live in a more rural setting...
and unfortunately the fact that the mother is a prostitute and she has no father already makes it hard for her. it's common. most children from abusive families never get help
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SgtBateMan said:
I'm baffled by the fact that Shizuka was being abandonned by her guardian for years without any intervention of the authority, and at this point I'm guaranteed that painting the grown-up evil is purely plot convenience.

Bro at least it's still acceptable, not like wind breaker
Jul 6, 10:30 AM
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JizzyHitler said:
I mean no offense by this, but you must live in a very privileged area or not had to deal with how ineffective stuff like even the police can be in child abuse cases. My friends teenage sister was on ring camera getting physically thrown to the ground by her father and he was still allowed custody over other family members even after the school and cops got involved, and it wasnt till months later of her living with them in an incident where he choked her and left marks that any sort of action kept them separated.

Now thats a crime involving an adult and evidence which by all accounts should be exponentially more effective to take action with cause you can get arrested for that stuff, then you see first hand how bullying just sort of happens in school systems no matter how blatant especially in a lower economic school (takopi seems to take place in a small rural town) its not uncommon to see at most a minor slap on the wrist. Is it dramatic in this, well yeah no shit theres a magical octopus with time travel abilities, but the lack of anyone doing anything no matter how obvious is incredibly common

kay, but this anime is set in Japan, not third world.

secondly, I was talking about the neglection of her guardian that received no response from the school faculty as well as other people (One simple phone call and the responsibilities for the case would be transferred to Agency for Children and Families.) You were into something else entirely.
SgtBateManJul 6, 11:03 AM
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Jul 6, 10:58 AM

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JizzyHitler said:
I mean no offense by this, but you must live in a very privileged area or not had to deal with how ineffective stuff like even the police can be in child abuse cases. My friends teenage sister was on ring camera getting physically thrown to the ground by her father and he was still allowed custody over other family members even after the school and cops got involved, and it wasnt till months later of her living with them in an incident where he choked her and left marks that any sort of action kept them separated.

Now thats a crime involving an adult and evidence which by all accounts should be exponentially more effective to take action with cause you can get arrested for that stuff, then you see first hand how bullying just sort of happens in school systems no matter how blatant especially in a lower economic school (takopi seems to take place in a small rural town) its not uncommon to see at most a minor slap on the wrist. Is it dramatic in this, well yeah no shit theres a magical octopus with time travel abilities, but the lack of anyone doing anything no matter how obvious is incredibly common

kay, but this anime is set in Japan, not third world.

secondly, I was talking about the neglection of her guardian that received no response from the school faculty as well as other people (One simple phone call and the responsibilities for the case would be transferred to Agency for Children and Families.) You were into something else entirely.
@SgtBateMan Japan very famously has a brutal bullying epidemic that makes places like America where I listed are. Japan you can just leave your kid on their own over here theres laws against that.

https://jobsinjapan.com/living-in-japan-guide/bullying-crisis-in-japan-the-problem-of-ijime/

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jul 6, 11:10 AM
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@SgtBateMan Japan very famously has a brutal bullying epidemic that makes places like America where I listed are. Japan you can just leave your kid on their own over here theres laws against that.

https://jobsinjapan.com/living-in-japan-guide/bullying-crisis-in-japan-the-problem-of-ijime/
@JizzyHitler bruh, as I had already mentioned, my post has nothing to do with bullying, rather negligence of guardianship.
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Jul 7, 1:47 AM

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As people said in this thread, this happens more often than you think, sadly.
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@SgtBateMan

In order for negligence of guardianship to be raised to the authorities, you need someone to care about it and raise it.

Teachers clearly didn't. They didn't care about the bullying on Shizuka going on under their very eyes, let alone about her situation at home, which they couldn't even see or know about. They probably would have kept it quiet anyway to avoid a scandal, which is not as uncommon in Japan (and other countries too).

Shizuka didn't have any real neighbour who could know about her situation at home, she lives in a pretty isolated area of a rural village. And even if they knew, they probably wouldn't have bothered too much.

The ONLY time someone could have raised the issue would have been during the hearing at the police because of Chappy. But all the adults were there for a different reason, so unless someone specifically wanted to raise that, they wouldn't discuss it.
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JizzyHitler said:
I mean no offense by this, but you must live in a very privileged area or not had to deal with how ineffective stuff like even the police can be in child abuse cases. My friends teenage sister was on ring camera getting physically thrown to the ground by her father and he was still allowed custody over other family members even after the school and cops got involved, and it wasnt till months later of her living with them in an incident where he choked her and left marks that any sort of action kept them separated.

Now thats a crime involving an adult and evidence which by all accounts should be exponentially more effective to take action with cause you can get arrested for that stuff, then you see first hand how bullying just sort of happens in school systems no matter how blatant especially in a lower economic school (takopi seems to take place in a small rural town) its not uncommon to see at most a minor slap on the wrist. Is it dramatic in this, well yeah no shit theres a magical octopus with time travel abilities, but the lack of anyone doing anything no matter how obvious is incredibly common

kay, but this anime is set in Japan, not third world.

secondly, I was talking about the neglection of her guardian that received no response from the school faculty as well as other people (One simple phone call and the responsibilities for the case would be transferred to Agency for Children and Families.) You were into something else entirely.
@SgtBateMan Sorry, but you are really disconnected from reality. It really doesn't take "third world" country for such things to happen. People negligence, inaction from Police or relevant institutions, indifference of people around, that is all well common in western world. The "I'm not paid enough for that sh**" attitude.

Only in movies "one simple phone call" does wonders. You are higly likely to call, get unmotivated social worker on the other side, that will check few boxes, say that they will investigate and that's all that will happen. Quite often neglected/abused child will not confirm the story cause either it is already disillusioned, has no faith that things will change for better, more, most likely expects things to get worse.
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Very naiive mindset to have, in your eyes, i guess child neglect, bullying, suicide, prostitution and broken homes just dont exist right?
Jul 7, 4:10 PM

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I'm a nurse, you have no idea the type of shit we see
Jul 7, 4:52 PM

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stop worshipping japan, this is common there.
Jul 7, 5:01 PM

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Yeah.

When Spiderman came out you were like "What are the odds of this spider coming down on him, biting him, in this exact moment?!!! Bullshit!" 😂
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this is more common in real life than you think
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"this is more common in real life than you think"

Unfortunately this is true, this is very sad.

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