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| Hmm, I'm not a fan of Aston's party so far. This episode dealt with some monster hunting and quests but I'm less impressed by Aston's personality. Zeno is still at the center of this episode. Definitely wish Lily was more useful with her around. |
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| Well, it was only a matter of time before they pulled the classic “Oh no! We kicked out the one crucial member of our party that we thought was useless all along” plot. My first question is: what did Zenos even do as their slave? Seriously—what? They used to send him into the dungeon alone, and he always came back unscathed. Did their tiny brains never once question that how he's unharmed? And how weak is Aston, really? One glare from Zophia and the guy practically pissed himself. Don’t even get me started on the conveniently timed events. Aston just happens to encounter Zenos right after learning that all three underground bosses know Zenos? And then Krishna shows up at the exact moment Aston is about to attack Zenos—just in time for Aston to learn about their connection? Yeah, okay. And now there’s a golem? Of course there is. In this show, you just mention something, and boom—it happens. No jinxing, no build-up. And of course, the Guild is behind it all—because who else would it be? Honestly, watching this anime is like self-inflicted suffering. I feel like my appetite’s been ruined before dinner thanks to this mess of a plot. |
XArceusXMay 1, 8:56 AM
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| Outside of seeing people be maybe a bit too hyper-picky about some trivial things, I don't see why this show is below 7. it's one of the most entertaining shows of the season and Zenos's calm and intelligent demeanor are a nice refresh from so many dumb and over emotional MC's. OK then - rant over :-) |
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| This week we focus on the useless members of Zenos former party. The way the story goes, including the bit about asking Zenos to come back, has become a fairly classic trope at this point, but it was still entertaining to see the way the girls protected him and interesting to take a peek at his past. Nice cliffhanger, is Zenos going to fight for real? we'll see, shoud be fun. |
| This was the funniest episode from this series. Period! Me, when they say I'm old with only 32 years:  About Aston (great name, by the way—my favorite car brand): Whoever is voicing this guy is killing it, haha!   It reminded me of this goat every time hahaha!:  |
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| Guilty pleasure is always the part where the mean dude who kicked MC out of party realizes he don' goofed. |
| Quiet episode and I'm starting to get sick of this style of expelled from the group and the group coming back and is always the same |
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| Ah yes the obligatory episode where the old party finds out they kicked out their OP healer and now try and get him back whilst learning his true power. I have seen many of these episodes, but I do always enjoy them as they learn how stupid it was to kick out the MC. Aston learnt that the slums respect Zenos which is something he and his party never did. Besides all that, I loved it when the VA for the Aston started screaming at Zenos when he declined the offer. :} |
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| Peak writing for sure... |
| they cut some stuff from the manga but is a good episode all around |
| Can we have one show these days without lolis doing nothing but fan service. It's so disjointed and obvious. |
| I find it so funny this show actually has good action animation. TBATE could never |
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| Can't lie I lowkey felt bad for the golden lads. |
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| Yeah this was a predictable episode with Zenos' old party crawling back after kicking him out. Apparently they didn't notice Zenos healing them instantly during the fights and not waiting until they were over, in a way Zenos didn't help his case with him hardly moving and not letting them know that he had been healing them. Nonetheless Zenos has no obligation to rejoin them as he has a good life helping out the poor while still making a living for himself but that didn't stop his old party (presumably) from having the 'Guide' summon up a golem as revenge. |
| Seeing the old party having their asses handed to them was satisfactory lol Wow, who could've imagined that the healer was actually doing his job and keeping the team from harm! xD |
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| It was great when all the leaders turned down Aston and basically said the same thing to him about being a fool for kicking out Zenos. Unfortunately for the slums it looks like he is a sore loser that made that golem go on a rampage. |
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| Hah... Get fked, golden phoenix |
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| Serves them right for not treating Zenos right. I wonder who summoned the golem. |
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Reply to Moppit
@XArceusX To answer your first question. Zenos has silent cast and instant cast, plus his barriers are more powerful. So it makes it seem like none of his party never takes any damage and he looks like he just stands there.
| @Moppit Moppit said: You just answered the question yourself. If Zenos just stays still and does nothing because his idiot party members never noticed, then why was he even in their party all this time? If someone is dead weight, shouldn't they(Zenos's party members) have kicked him out a lot earlier?he looks like he just stands there It feels like this part of the writing was done without much thought—like many other poorly written plots. |
XArceusXMay 2, 9:33 AM
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| Haha, i always like the trope episode where the brain dead party finally realizes MC was carrying them all this time and now they suck ass. The arrogance of this particular party leader was pretty potent. |
Reply to Moppit
@XArceusX Zenos felt indebted to Ashton for bringing him out of the slums and probably felt that if he left the party, he would have nowhere else to go. He's an underground healer, so if he did quit, he couldn't go into healing openly without a license. Ashton never really paid him, so he couldn't afford to get a license. Plus, he never had a name before Ashton gave him one, so I assume there was a problem with him knowing magic being lower class. The show gives hints about his situation.
| @Moppit No, you got it backwards. I was talking about Aston and the rest of the party members. If they thought until the very last moment—right up until they were getting their asses handed to them—that Zenos had been of no use to them all this time, then I don't see any reason why they would have kept him around for all these years. |
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Reply to Moppit
XArceusX said:
@Moppit No, you got it backwards. I was talking about Aston and the rest of the party members. If they thought until the very last moment—right up until they were getting their asses handed to them—that Zenos had been of no use to them all this time, then I don't see any reason why they would have kept him around for all these years.
@Moppit No, you got it backwards. I was talking about Aston and the rest of the party members. If they thought until the very last moment—right up until they were getting their asses handed to them—that Zenos had been of no use to them all this time, then I don't see any reason why they would have kept him around for all these years.
Outside of it being a trope that the MC is in a party for at least a year before being thrown out to show how much more of an impact it is when they finally kick him out. I can't think of a reason, either why they kept him for so long.
| @Moppit So we both think the party had no real reason to keep him—it was just forced for the plot’s sake. It's just a lazy writting. |
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| Zenos should just take the leaders and the royal knight and take on the job for Aston party. Really show him what for. |
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