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Mar 21, 11:34 AM
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Female anime fans are built DIFFERENT. And by different, I mean DANGEROUS. You think guys are degenerate because we simp for 2D waifus and buy body pillows? HA. That’s baby stuff. Vanilla. Missionary on a Tuesday. You think dudes watching ecchi are wild? Nah. I watched a girl at a con pull out a 3-foot-tall Levi Ackerman figure and say “I can fix him” with her whole chest. This man has PTSD and 87 kill streaks, and she’s planning the wedding.

90% of the raunchy, unholy, "this should be illegal in 47 countries" manga? DRAWN. BY. WOMEN. I’m talking full-blown erotica, plot-optional smut that makes the average dude blush like a shoujo protagonist. The most insane, unhinged, astral-projecting-level doujins you’ve ever seen? Women. Authored. Every. Page. While sipping tea and giggling. Male authors draw some tame fanservice, maybe a jiggle here, a beach episode there. Female authors? “Here’s 300 pages of soul-shattering, blush-inducing filth and the characters are all crying for some reason.” It's like they said, “Plot? Nah. Just vibes. And sin.”

DISCLAIMER: Just an observation from reading all the erotica manga out there; gay or nay.

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Mar 21, 11:36 AM
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how about both? its 2025 we are striving for gender equality here
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Yeah, whatever you say to fish for sycophantic "I agree" comments. When cons no longer need "cosplay is not consent" warnings, female fans no longer have to worry about constant harassment from online creeps, and male fans stop explicitly trying to tell us to stop watching anime and get out of the community for pointing out that anime fandom is unsafe in these ways and many others, maybe I'll believe you.

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Mar 21, 11:49 AM
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Women love sadism and masochism in their romance often involving a hotcriminal bad boy. Stuff like redo of healer was more popularwith women. Also, women make up a vast majority of the yaoi crowd.
Mar 21, 11:57 AM
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That's a cute take, OP. Did your AI chatbot feed it to you?
Mar 21, 12:10 PM
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I mean it obviously depends on the person but yeah there's some truth to that

The women I've been friends with tend to be more horny or at least equally as horny as the men I've been friends with and their fetishes tend to be more out there too, I suspect there's just a higher percentage of female degenerates who keep the weird shit they're into to themselves compared to male degenerates
Mar 21, 12:12 PM
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yup facts. women during ovulation are scary beings. women say this themselves. "you don't wanna know what goes through our heads during ovulation" and what not lmao. makes me wish i had a close girl friend with whom i could talk about this haha

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Mar 21, 12:16 PM
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Its pretty obvious when you have a bunch of men whiteknighting for women in women targeted anime like https://myanimelist.net/anime/57050/Kisaki_Kyouiku_kara_Nigetai_Watashi and then an actual girl shows up in the comments and says she likes it and everyone loses their minds lmao.
Mar 21, 12:28 PM
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Congrats OP on discovering this well-known secret, but the world will keep witch hunting perverted men only.
Mar 21, 12:36 PM

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Finding a real, genuinely, degenerate girl/woman is almost as hard as finding Bigfoot or the Lochness Monster lol
Mar 21, 1:04 PM

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GinInYourJuice said:
Finding a real, genuinely, degenerate girl/woman is almost as hard as finding Bigfoot or the Lochness Monster lol

Yes, but not because they're uncommon, most are just hiding it really well outside of all-female groups, unfortunately.
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Here's the way I see it (exact numbers aren't accurate, but it's the trend I'm trying to highlight here):

If we rate sexual degenerate stuff on a scale from 1-10, 1 being consensual and fluffy, 10 being beyond what even snuff films are capable of, majority of women are 1-2, whereas majority of men are 2-3. Keep in mind this is in terms of what each of the sexes get off to, not just popcorn drama. So overall, women are less sexually depraved than men on average.

HOWEVER

While the audience for 8+ on that scale is *significantly* smaller, it is represented by more women than men. Searching for women who like this stuff on a whim is nearly impossible, but finding women there when searching specifically for depraved anime/manga content is easy. Doubly so since women tend to churn out content more often than men, especially in fandom spaces like conventions and fanart.

Anime/manga, which already teeters on that sexual depravity more often than other mediums, already filters out more women than men. So this already skewed perception leads many anime fans to believe the average women is more freaky, but that's not the case. This is just my observation from how I see the general populace.
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Jokes aside, shoujo and josei are much more free and mature in their exploration of stereotypically taboo or complex topics than mainstream shonen and seinen. I mean, how often do you see BL shonen or seinen that depicts problematic relationships without otaku fetishization?
Mar 21, 1:20 PM

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what the fuck are you babbling about? did watching all those low quality ecchi/hentai finally made you lose all of your brain cells?

niconiconii27 said:
Its pretty obvious when you have a bunch of men whiteknighting for women in women targeted anime like https://myanimelist.net/anime/57050/Kisaki_Kyouiku_kara_Nigetai_Watashi and then an actual girl shows up in the comments and says she likes it and everyone loses their minds lmao.


i assure you there are more girls who hate that horrendous piece of trash than the ones who like it. it has a score of 5.29 for a good reason.
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Its pretty obvious when you have a bunch of men whiteknighting for women in women targeted anime like https://myanimelist.net/anime/57050/Kisaki_Kyouiku_kara_Nigetai_Watashi and then an actual girl shows up in the comments and says she likes it and everyone loses their minds lmao.
@niconiconii27 Well, this is not a good example. It's not about gender. This show is a trash.
Mar 21, 1:24 PM

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Girls are more degenerate than guys

DUH! Didn't you learn anything from the girls post-90s harem anime?!


Mar 21, 1:31 PM

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This is a take only horny redditors would fantasize about even though it's highly unlikely
Mar 21, 1:40 PM
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Sir, did you see your own profile? :D Well done trollling.

About Levi. You forgot Levi is a soldier, not a serial killer. I'm pretty sure some contemporary soldiers has higher body count in the classic sense. A girl apparently didn't understand she is not a fixer of war PTSD but she may like this kind of brave men.

About erotica mangas I don't have any opnion. If you don't have any statistics and you share your own experience, there is possibility you saw mangas drawn mostly by women because you like something in women gaze, storytellig, kinks or art style. Also, how do you know authors are really women? Because, you know, pen names exist.
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LMAO someone's desperate for a rage bait
Mar 21, 1:57 PM
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It is common for woman to write under male pen names for normal content. There is a character in Ef tale of memories that does the opposite. I wouldn't disconsider the possibility.
For erotic manga, this might be the case, or if a woman is hired as author/front face while a guy is the ghost mangaka. I suspect https://myanimelist.net/people/10864/Maya_Miyazaki for example. There are confirmed mangaka that did this, but I don't remember their names.

foxsurprise comment model is very cool, it might be a sampling error, involved that the individual distribution will be all over the place and you just interacted with the radical part of the fujoshi fan base and not with the radical male degen base. Also, as woman will feel the degen wall going up the 3 step base where degen man live, they might as well climb up 4-11. And the big sampling problem, one case is not enough to identify trends spanning on multiple individuals accurately.

There is a ton of erotica 6+ and worse made by man too. Shindol is a famous example.

If you search on forums you will find users that Like Rebecca (LRevy) from Black Lagoon, or ex human killing dragons from Maid Dragon. So biased generalization.
Mar 21, 2:05 PM

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Tbh I think "I can fix them" (assuming the person even WANTS to fix them) is a unisex thing.

Mirai Nikki got popular for a reason
Mar 21, 2:20 PM

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I knew Fujoshi were rotten when I found out that they have built an entire fictional universe (omegaverse) where men have "yaoi holes" and can get pregnant. It's utterly sick, the absolute degenerates.
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men mangaka: let's make this cool scene with mc acting cool and shit, then let's make fmc hot

women mangaka:
Mar 21, 2:31 PM

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I honestly see way more over the top male degenerate fans than female ones in the fandom, and hoenstly in my opinion I'd say the male ones are way more degenerate imo given the larger volume of insane shit i've seen male degens say
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Mar 21, 2:49 PM

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Do you know the phrase "Rap is like a mountain: It's mostly black, but it's white at the top"?
It's the same thing with degeneracy: In the "milder" levels, women rule, but when you get to near-snuff level stuff, it's a men's world.

I blame it on the concept of "degeneracy" being too broad and putting together things that are nowhere near the same level.
For instance, I'm into a lot of stuff some people would consider "hardcore stuff", but all of them are extremely mild when compared to something like scat, ryona or ero-guro.
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Yeah, whatever you say to fish for sycophantic "I agree" comments. When cons no longer need "cosplay is not consent" warnings, female fans no longer have to worry about constant harassment from online creeps, and male fans stop explicitly trying to tell us to stop watching anime and get out of the community for pointing out that anime fandom is unsafe in these ways and many others, maybe I'll believe you.
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Mar 21, 3:44 PM

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Every single puritan I've seen complaining about fanservice in real life has been a straight white man. Never seen women complaining about it.
Mar 21, 4:05 PM

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I honestly see way more over the top male degenerate fans than female ones in the fandom, and hoenstly in my opinion I'd say the male ones are way more degenerate imo given the larger volume of insane shit i've seen male degens say
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Anecdotal evidence based on conjecture. Pickme ahh rhetoric too.
Degeneracy is seen as a male only thing because of the Lain fallacy.
Anything disgusting such as being a terminally online pc otaku with a simple gender swap becomes appealing and emulation worthy.
Unless you have the lived experience of a female otaku for 100% of your life you statistically can't know as many female degens as you would male degens.
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Every single puritan I've seen complaining about fanservice in real life has been a straight white man. Never seen women complaining about it.
@ForgotEyeWasHere idk why you people in this thread are so mindbroken by the OP that you have to insantly start yapping about your lived experience. This is a MAL forum there is no expecation for you to have a parity of experience in relation to degeneracy on both genders. And if you think you do you need severe self awareness especially seeing your pfp.

IF YOU ARE A MALE ANIME OBSESSED WEIRDO OTAKU YOU STATISTICALLY WON'T KNOW AS MANY WOMXN LET ALONE WOMXN WHO WATCH ANIME LET ALONE WOMXN WHO WOULD OPENLY DISCUSS THEIR DEGENERACY OR LACK THEREOF IN RELATION TO ANIME
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Mar 21, 4:14 PM

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how about both? its 2025 we are striving for gender equality here
@deg assuming there is only 2 in 2025 while advocating for gender equality in 2025 is a disgrace to true gender equality
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Yeah, whatever you say to fish for sycophantic "I agree" comments. When cons no longer need "cosplay is not consent" warnings, female fans no longer have to worry about constant harassment from online creeps, and male fans stop explicitly trying to tell us to stop watching anime and get out of the community for pointing out that anime fandom is unsafe in these ways and many others, maybe I'll believe you.
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Women love sadism and masochism in their romance often involving a hotcriminal bad boy. Stuff like redo of healer was more popularwith women. Also, women make up a vast majority of the yaoi crowd.
@rohan121 women also make up a large crowd of popular battle shounen with bishounen
Mar 21, 4:19 PM

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That's a cute take, OP. Did your AI chatbot feed it to you?
@Orororurando AIrigato and guess you could say I’m just artificially inspired.
Mar 21, 4:20 PM

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I mean it obviously depends on the person but yeah there's some truth to that

The women I've been friends with tend to be more horny or at least equally as horny as the men I've been friends with and their fetishes tend to be more out there too, I suspect there's just a higher percentage of female degenerates who keep the weird shit they're into to themselves compared to male degenerates
@erotardation and the ones who project them put it in ink
Mar 21, 4:21 PM

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yup facts. women during ovulation are scary beings. women say this themselves. "you don't wanna know what goes through our heads during ovulation" and what not lmao. makes me wish i had a close girl friend with whom i could talk about this haha
@TsutanaiFuun and that's what makes the best of the best dj even better
Mar 21, 4:22 PM

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Its pretty obvious when you have a bunch of men whiteknighting for women in women targeted anime like https://myanimelist.net/anime/57050/Kisaki_Kyouiku_kara_Nigetai_Watashi and then an actual girl shows up in the comments and says she likes it and everyone loses their minds lmao.
@niconiconii27 pretty sure the show is actually targetted towards women
Mar 21, 4:23 PM

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Congrats OP on discovering this well-known secret, but the world will keep witch hunting perverted men only.
@Zarutaku perverted guys are the loudest about their fetishes like @catalano
Mar 21, 4:24 PM

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Finding a real, genuinely, degenerate girl/woman is almost as hard as finding Bigfoot or the Lochness Monster lol
@GinInYourJuice probably see them everyday but they're like wolf in sheep's clothing
Mar 21, 4:27 PM

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Here's the way I see it (exact numbers aren't accurate, but it's the trend I'm trying to highlight here):

If we rate sexual degenerate stuff on a scale from 1-10, 1 being consensual and fluffy, 10 being beyond what even snuff films are capable of, majority of women are 1-2, whereas majority of men are 2-3. Keep in mind this is in terms of what each of the sexes get off to, not just popcorn drama. So overall, women are less sexually depraved than men on average.

HOWEVER

While the audience for 8+ on that scale is *significantly* smaller, it is represented by more women than men. Searching for women who like this stuff on a whim is nearly impossible, but finding women there when searching specifically for depraved anime/manga content is easy. Doubly so since women tend to churn out content more often than men, especially in fandom spaces like conventions and fanart.

Anime/manga, which already teeters on that sexual depravity more often than other mediums, already filters out more women than men. So this already skewed perception leads many anime fans to believe the average women is more freaky, but that's not the case. This is just my observation from how I see the general populace.
@foxsurprise I notice the ratio of artist alley merchants is heavily female favored in conventions
Mar 21, 4:28 PM

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Jokes aside, shoujo and josei are much more free and mature in their exploration of stereotypically taboo or complex topics than mainstream shonen and seinen. I mean, how often do you see BL shonen or seinen that depicts problematic relationships without otaku fetishization?
@RobertBobert you don't and that's what i'm getting at. yeah.
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what the fuck are you babbling about? did watching all those low quality ecchi/hentai finally made you lose all of your brain cells?

niconiconii27 said:
Its pretty obvious when you have a bunch of men whiteknighting for women in women targeted anime like https://myanimelist.net/anime/57050/Kisaki_Kyouiku_kara_Nigetai_Watashi and then an actual girl shows up in the comments and says she likes it and everyone loses their minds lmao.


i assure you there are more girls who hate that horrendous piece of trash than the ones who like it. it has a score of 5.29 for a good reason.
@Serfort30 more like seeing the patterns in the hentai industry opened my eyes to reality
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Girls are more degenerate than guys

DUH! Didn't you learn anything from the girls post-90s harem anime?!


@Shishio-kun i'm not a boomer, so i wouldn't know
Mar 21, 4:30 PM

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This is a take only horny redditors would fantasize about even though it's highly unlikely
@Euroqean this isn't reddit, this is myanimelist
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100% can confirm. I still remember that there was this Jojo's Bizarre Adventure doujinshi penned by the women behind Cardcaptor Sakura, Tsubasa, and others where Kakyoin and Jotaro give birth to a baby boy, and he hatches from an egg (laid by Noriaki, obviously).
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Im sure that practically only men draw loli and shota shit, maybe a few women for shota but its probably mostly men.

You might be right about legal smut though, suprising amount of women author that stuff but I think men are still the main consumers

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Women love sadism and masochism in their romance often involving a hotcriminal bad boy. Stuff like redo of healer was more popularwith women. Also, women make up a vast majority of the yaoi crowd.
@rohan121 wait wait wait, is it true redo of the healer is really popular with women? I thought and observed in social media it was spread majority of man because the plot was good they say and so on.
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Sir, did you see your own profile? :D Well done trollling.

About Levi. You forgot Levi is a soldier, not a serial killer. I'm pretty sure some contemporary soldiers has higher body count in the classic sense. A girl apparently didn't understand she is not a fixer of war PTSD but she may like this kind of brave men.

About erotica mangas I don't have any opnion. If you don't have any statistics and you share your own experience, there is possibility you saw mangas drawn mostly by women because you like something in women gaze, storytellig, kinks or art style. Also, how do you know authors are really women? Because, you know, pen names exist.
@Starpudding ad hominem fallacy, the internet exist for the sole purpose of informing
Mar 21, 4:33 PM

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LMAO someone's desperate for a rage bait
@SOEMasterAgent then you took the bait, what does that make you?
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It is common for woman to write under male pen names for normal content. There is a character in Ef tale of memories that does the opposite. I wouldn't disconsider the possibility.
For erotic manga, this might be the case, or if a woman is hired as author/front face while a guy is the ghost mangaka. I suspect https://myanimelist.net/people/10864/Maya_Miyazaki for example. There are confirmed mangaka that did this, but I don't remember their names.

foxsurprise comment model is very cool, it might be a sampling error, involved that the individual distribution will be all over the place and you just interacted with the radical part of the fujoshi fan base and not with the radical male degen base. Also, as woman will feel the degen wall going up the 3 step base where degen man live, they might as well climb up 4-11. And the big sampling problem, one case is not enough to identify trends spanning on multiple individuals accurately.

There is a ton of erotica 6+ and worse made by man too. Shindol is a famous example.

If you search on forums you will find users that Like Rebecca (LRevy) from Black Lagoon, or ex human killing dragons from Maid Dragon. So biased generalization.
@Sasori56483 The gender masking in both directions definitely complicates any attempts to link creator identity with content tone or depravity level. But you can easily find out by following the artist's X accounts since X is massive in JP
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Tbh I think "I can fix them" (assuming the person even WANTS to fix them) is a unisex thing.

Mirai Nikki got popular for a reason
@Supersonic_Pain pretty sure guys only want to bone Yuno and not fix her
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