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Dec 27, 2024 12:58 PM
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Social media posts by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy arguing in favor of expanding the visa program for highly skilled workers have set off a debate among supporters of President-elect Donald Trump over how the program should fit into the incoming administration’s aggressive immigration agenda.

Musk and Ramaswamy, whom Trump has tapped to lead his Department of Government Efficiency, defended companies who use workers on H-1B visas, arguing tech companies — including those owned by Musk — depend on foreign workers to operate. But their message rankled some of Trump’s most loyal defenders who expect his administration to crack down on immigration and promote American labor.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/12/27/politics/elon-musk-vivek-ramaswamy-foreign-worker-visas/index.html

this is funny the incoming doge department wants more immigration but the maga fans wants anti immigration instead
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Lol, Trump supporters still think their voices matter. (Funnily, many of them keep frantically googling "can I change my vote" almost 2 months after the election.)

Musk needed uneducated gullible idiots to elect him into a position of power, sure, but he still relies on highly skilled south and east Asian wage slaves to operate his businesses. Now that the former have done their job, they are basically both useless to him and dispensable. Maybe 20 years down the line working at whatever dead-end job they could find, they'll finally understand that not all their misfortunes were caused by Joe Biden and that maybe they were played, but that'd be giving them too much credit, and also assuming these people deserve sympathy.
Dec 27, 2024 4:15 PM
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Lol, Trump supporters still think their voices matter. (Funnily, many of them keep frantically googling "can I change my vote" almost 2 months after the election.)

Musk needed uneducated gullible idiots to elect him into a position of power, sure, but he still relies on highly skilled south and east Asian wage slaves to operate his businesses. Now that the former have done their job, they are basically both useless to him and dispensable. Maybe 20 years down the line working at whatever dead-end job they could find, they'll finally understand that not all their misfortunes were caused by Joe Biden and that maybe they were played, but that'd be giving them too much credit, and also assuming these people deserve sympathy.
@149597871 idk if california maga is going to win against real maga, they may have the money but not the votes, i wonder what will come from this



Dec 27, 2024 6:11 PM
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Dec 27, 2024 7:33 PM
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ELON CREATED AN ALT ACCOUNT
elon musk is losing his god damned mind lmfao

https://x.com/i/status/1872547906986840571

https://x.com/i/status/1872710988904186130

https://x.com/jimstewartson/status/1872787575313973572

BREAKING: Elon Musk, using a cheesy voice modifier on his “Adrian Ditmann” account, says MAGA “will have to fucking deal with it” because “Elon is the only one to give these fucking crackheads a voice. You ungrateful motherfuckers, seriously.”

“Get over yourselves.”
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Dec 28, 2024 3:35 AM
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Social media posts by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy arguing in favor of expanding the visa program for highly skilled workers have set off a debate among supporters of President-elect Donald Trump over how the program should fit into the incoming administration’s aggressive immigration agenda

Excuse me? What aggressive immigration agenda? Visa programs are for LEGAL immigrants, no one sane has a problem with that

The crack down is on ILLEGAL immigrants, everyone sane has a problem with that and rightfully so
Dec 28, 2024 4:18 AM
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Social media posts by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy arguing in favor of expanding the visa program for highly skilled workers have set off a debate among supporters of President-elect Donald Trump over how the program should fit into the incoming administration’s aggressive immigration agenda

Excuse me? What aggressive immigration agenda? Visa programs are for LEGAL immigrants, no one sane has a problem with that

The crack down is on ILLEGAL immigrants, everyone sane has a problem with that and rightfully so
@DigiCat natives have qualms with migration in general, the "illegal" part is just a way to make it palpable to everyone including migrants, see the UK or Canada backlash

in other words, incrementing immigration is not a popular policy anywhere nowadays, it needs to be done under the rug for economic concerns. MAGA used anti-immigration rhetoric so the winning party is anti-immigration, the illegal prefix has always been a dog whistle, anyone with two working brain cells can see through it



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“I’ve always liked the visas, I have always been in favor of the visas. That’s why we have them,” Trump said by phone, referring to the H-1B program, which permits companies to hire foreign workers in specialty occupations.

“I have many H-1B visas on my properties. I’ve been a believer in H-1B. I have used it many times. It’s a great program,” added Trump,


https://nypost.com/2024/12/28/us-news/donald-trump-backs-h-1b-visa-program-supported-by-elon-musk/
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Oh hay cool didn't expect to get a nice cup of schadenfreude as a present this month. @vasipi4946 are you honestly surprised that the habitual lier lied?
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H-1B DATA MEGA-THREAD

https://x.com/RobertMSterling/status/1873174358535110953
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The Augustine Commission, so named after its chairman former Lockheed Martin CEO Norm Augustine, returned with a set of recommendations some months later. The commission found that the program then in existence, Project Constellation, was not executable under any reasonable budget. The program, started by President George W. Bush, had been underfunded and had faced technical challenges for years. The commissions offered two alternatives. The first was Moon First, which would have focused America’s efforts on a return to the moon. The second was Flexible Path, which would have sent American astronauts to every destination besides the moon—the asteroids, the moons of Mars, and so on. Both options would lead to the holy grail of space exploration enthusiasts, a mission to Mars.

The kicker was that both options would cost an extra $3 billion a year for NASA to execute. For the Obama administration, which was not shy about spending money in areas that it cared about, this price tag was too dear to bear.

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/technology/322918-how-barack-obama-ruined-nasa-space-exploration/

People that know, know why President Musk hates Lockheed engineers, China isn't importing gorillions of entry level Indians, and doesn't model their ambitions on classic India... nor will they work for Musk. VP Trump doesn't.

https://fee.org/articles/does-obama-deserve-credit-for-elon-musk-s-spacex-triumph-yes-and-no/
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BREAKING: Trump said "we need a lot of people coming in."

A reporter asked: Why did you change your mind on H1B visas?

Trump said: I didn’t change my mind. I always felt we have to have the most competent people in our country. We need competent people. We need smart people coming into our country. We need a lot of people coming in. We’re going to have jobs like we’ve never had before

https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1874282313313640607

lol the flip flopping is back
Dec 31, 2024 11:07 PM

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Donald Trump's shifting positions on H-1B visas.

2016 vs. 2020 vs. 2024

https://x.com/MeidasTouch/status/1874291240411468080
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Bernie Sanders has said:

Elon Musk is wrong.

The main function of the H-1B visa program is not to hire “the best and the brightest,” but rather to replace good-paying American jobs with low-wage indentured servants from abroad.

The cheaper the labor they hire, the more money the billionaires make.

https://x.com/SenSanders/status/1874918027982172626

sadly both can be true bernie like hiring the best of the world but paying them less
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Elon Musk made an alt account to defend himself on /pol/

https://x.com/rrriot_kitty/status/1874986970532982999
https://x.com/quantian1/status/1874978273731752098
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/pol/ found elon's posts on 4chan
https://x.com/1000glockstare/status/1874372901992108282
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