Can the mods start filtering out review bombing and blatant slander from people not watching

i think its too complicated to do so but i don't care about some Random Haters. If they don't have good critism with good Arguments they don't count in my opinion. But you're right this is a big Problem and ugly that People random Start hating this Season without seeing 1 Episode of it

You’re completely right, it’s nasty that mean spirited ‘anime fans’ act so badly against others with the same minority interest. But as you already know, they do it across all genres in a similar way, although it seems a bit worse for DAL. Mods will never act to prevent this kind of abuse directly as it evens out from show to show naturally. But I believe there are algorithms in play that catch a percentage of blatant rigging, so maybe it’s just not as bad as it looks. Sadly, despite your opinions or mine, maybe the show just isn’t top tier anime by general consensus? I think it’s decent, the last few episodes have been seriously great, but as you say, the bad scores are from people who haven’t even seen them.
Just enjoy whatever you like and forget MAL scores, it’s a western thing that the Japanese studios and producers don’t give a s**t about. It’s truly worthless.

I noticed the same problem in Demon Slayer season 4 yesterday, where it was scored at 7.66. Now it is rated at 8.11.

That does not only happen to DAL. Mushoku Tensei and Demon Slayer suffer from that the most.

@RoyalDemon05 Initial scores will also tend to be from people who are dedicated to watching shows as they air and commenting on forums etc. and will thus also tend to be a bit harsher on their scores having seen a lot more shows. That's why this happens to almost every show: they'll tend to start with a lower score and increase in score over the first few days. Also, speaking to other points made earlier in this discussion, there's no good way to validate if someone has ACTUALLY seen a show or not (they can just click a few buttons and the site thinks they have). There are also plenty of people who just won't have the same taste as you and might give a show that you love a much lower score. Sometimes it's the small, subtle changes from season to season that can alienate someone. For instance, Attack on titan's final series completely alienating me with imo awful character writing, where previously I loved the series.

Not saying whether it is or isn't happening on this season of Date a Live. I will say, however, the only reason I'm on this forum is because I've been gathering information over time for my fantasy anime league spread sheet. Looking at the data for Date a live, I don't see any sort of abnormal behavior relative to other shows. Even just looking at the score curve on MAL, if anything Date a Live has an incredibly ordinary curve. Only 1% being a 1/10 is pretty normal and not bad at all, and verrrrry few people have given it below a 5. This just seems to be the rating the audience has given the show. Compared to yuru camp season 3's score distribution, they appear to be fairly similar. If there is botting or other malicious activity occurring that can be remedied with reasonable ease, by all means they should, but at a glance I don't think there's a statically significant amount of malicious activity in this case.

the problem is mainly the low number of voters, only 7,000, whereas our community is much larger (and there are nearly 90,000 members on the dal page). To compare, Mushoku Tensei: Jobless Reincarnation Season 2 Part 2 has around 33,000 voters.

You’re completely right, it’s nasty that mean spirited ‘anime fans’ act so badly against others with the same minority interest. But as you already know, they do it across all genres in a similar way, although it seems a bit worse for DAL. Mods will never act to prevent this kind of abuse directly as it evens out from show to show naturally. But I believe there are algorithms in play that catch a percentage of blatant rigging, so maybe it’s just not as bad as it looks. Sadly, despite your opinions or mine, maybe the show just isn’t top tier anime by general consensus? I think it’s decent, the last few episodes have been seriously great, but as you say, the bad scores are from people who haven’t even seen them.
Just enjoy whatever you like and forget MAL scores, it’s a western thing that the Japanese studios and producers don’t give a s**t about. It’s truly worthless.

That’s just desperate reasoning, disqualification from polls due to not watching previous seasons? That’s simply vote rigging. If that logic was applied to all anime, imagine how new one piece viewers would feel knowing their opinion doesn’t count because they haven’t seen the thousand plus episodes previous to the current season. Your precious favourite show, which I too rate highly, is being treated extremely well in comparison to most, scores of 5 and below are less than 400 out of 7021 people’s ratings. Real top tier masterpieces like Mushoku Tensei aren’t that lucky! Even Frieren, best anime of the decade, got way more 1 scores from haters.
You have watched so few anime it’s ridiculous, and have an average rating of over 9, come back in a year with a wide range of anime experience before trying to bend the ratings in favour of a show that is fairly rated low 8. That is actually a damn good score!!! Some of my favourite shows that I rate 10 are sat at 6 or 7, but I don’t complain because my enjoyment isn’t damaged by the opinions of others.

That’s just desperate reasoning, disqualification from polls due to not watching previous seasons? That’s simply vote rigging. If that logic was applied to all anime, imagine how new one piece viewers would feel knowing their opinion doesn’t count because they haven’t seen the thousand plus episodes previous to the current season. Your precious favourite show, which I too rate highly, is being treated extremely well in comparison to most, scores of 5 and below are less than 400 out of 7021 people’s ratings. Real top tier masterpieces like Mushoku Tensei aren’t that lucky! Even Frieren, best anime of the decade, got way more 1 scores from haters.
You have watched so few anime it’s ridiculous, and have an average rating of over 9, come back in a year with a wide range of anime experience before trying to bend the ratings in favour of a show that is fairly rated low 8. That is actually a damn good score!!! Some of my favourite shows that I rate 10 are sat at 6 or 7, but I don’t complain because my enjoyment isn’t damaged by the opinions of others.

Not a word of what you say can be substantiated, it is all your personal assumptions and opinions. You are desperately trying to validate your own favourite where in reality, IT DOESN’T MATTER! You enjoyed it so far. Me too. And some other people. And some were less impressed. My opinion of Slime doesn’t line up with yours therefore my opinion is invalid? Just step back and look at the words of a dictator! You have next to no experience of anime but see yourself as the mighty know all opinion of what’s best, and choose an imperfect show written very well, but clearly aimed at a younger audience pretty much like Harry Potter. It is where it belongs, and no amount of tantrums or false ‘facts’ based on personal interpretation of the truth will change that.

A minority of Mushoku’s former fans who have a short attention span and cry over plot based rather than action based arcs are not representative of all the true fans. Neither are the poor dears who can’t follow Slime’s complex politics and cry about all the ‘yapping’. I assume you also are a teen with ADD therefore cherry picking minority opinions is natural for you. Like I say, someone with 17 anime completed doesn’t qualify to cast judgement on anything anime related as if picking out a few favourable items from the whole spectrum of media available proves any point. Just get over yourself. Lots of grown ups post reviews praising both the anime you mentioned, it’s just children who complain when a show doesn’t dumb itself down to their IQ.

I already said most of that myself, as an older anime watcher with a broader world view I enjoy deeper storylines that the average teenage anime viewer would not appreciate. I never claimed to be a majority! But that doesn’t change the fact that your desperate attempt to raise one show’s MAL rating at the expense of others is simply futile. People like what they like and are free to score things as they see fit, you have no power over that. Your opinions are not facts, just personal views. Using arguments like ‘the Mushoku Tensei fanbase have admitted blah blah blah’ is patently ridiculous as I, a fan of said anime (not the ln source) was never polled on the subject. Some disillusioned power anime fans may have said that, but they don’t speak for all of us or the ranking, despite all the 1 point bombing which is magnitudes worse than that for DAL, would not be so high. Simply, most fans just don’t give a s**t about MAL rankings because all that matters is HOW MUCH YOU ENJOY IT YOURSELF.

@turtleinshell yuru camp only has like 0.5% score of 1s and low scores. It isn't topping polls so it less likely a target. Dal has around the same people scoring but 1% of 1s and is topping polls. You can see dal is an easy target for people to tank out of jealousy. You can go to the low scores from the members who did it and almost all of them didnt even watch the previous 4 seasons. It is basically an easy target for people to quickly tank its score out of jealousy.

Like tensura season 3 is facing massive backlash and audience is dissatisfaction is unlikely to fall out of an 8 score because it has a very high viewership and thus more people giving it a 10 at the beginning. Even if they give the laziest animation possible.

@SpiderMiles3523 Yuru Camp and Date A Live are sequels that have a fairly similar distribution, number of viewers, etc. (Yuru also has more forum posts). 0.5% versus 1.0% hardly seems like mass review bombing to me. The biggest effect that might have on the score, which would be if we say the score would otherwise be a 10/10 for the other 99.5% of people, would be reducing the score by .045. That's NOT how much it actually reduced the score, that would be closer to ~.036 given the current score.

There are doubtlessly SOME genuine scores in the 1 category. Arguably, watching this many seasons of a show they dislike or are on the fence about might seem like a waste of their time, but not necessarily a breach of the rules, and if anything it balances out the amount of vacuum chamber voting that occurs on sequels (which is already rampant on most shows). By the same token, people can create new accounts and give the show a 10 to inflate the score. That honestly seems even more likely when you're at season 5 and most of the people still watching are die hard fans. My guess is that chews into that .5% by a good amount, so were likely looking at significantly less than 0.036 score impact. How, then, do we tell which users are breaking the rules in that way? Do you want the 10's removed? Obviously many of the 10's are heartfelt, but many are also probably overrating the show to inflate the score to what they want (just as some users might be lowering their 5/10 to a 1/10 to influence the score).

The score has gradually decreased over the last few weeks, and it's entirely possible some people might have been on the fence about date a live for a while now and that something the last few weeks rubbed them the wrong way. Most people also don't use the forums. Personally, most shows I dislike, I don't even say anything and just move on. Also worth pointing out, some types of shows organically receive more hate than others and rub people wrong more than others.

Point is, there's no way we can prove the 1s or 10s are or aren't genuine, and the impact in this case of any review bombing seems negligible, at least on the surface.

Can't help it. We got ourself a lot of DAL haters

@Luvaga all shows have haters but dal haters don't even watch the show vs mha, demon slayer, mushoku tensei haters. I have yet to hear one bad thing about this season. Which is ironic since dal had fewer episodes spread over a long period of time.

It is almost always "who tf is watching this show" , "trashy harem".

Meanwhile yapfest tensura season3 has almost full negative review bar but any criticism is met with "shonent@rd, go watch dragon ball and jjk".

Not a word of what you say can be substantiated, it is all your personal assumptions and opinions. You are desperately trying to validate your own favourite where in reality, IT DOESN’T MATTER! You enjoyed it so far. Me too. And some other people. And some were less impressed. My opinion of Slime doesn’t line up with yours therefore my opinion is invalid? Just step back and look at the words of a dictator! You have next to no experience of anime but see yourself as the mighty know all opinion of what’s best, and choose an imperfect show written very well, but clearly aimed at a younger audience pretty much like Harry Potter. It is where it belongs, and no amount of tantrums or false ‘facts’ based on personal interpretation of the truth will change that.

@SpiderMiles3523 for a hardcore watchers like me. I don't have anything to hate, even tensura and mushoku still good for me. Don't get me wrong, i am more hardcore towards DAL and Re:Zero than other animes ever.
But in reality we got to admit, 8.xx score are the best DAL had ever reached.
And we should be grateful for that. This season still have many episodes left, let us pray and support DAL until ends