angry sub only users

I may be a sub-only watcher, but jesus those people sound like they're real fun at parties. 😒
It's just a preference, so yeah, people taking it that seriously is just weird.

I'd love to try and watch Aria in Italian, Yumeiro Patissiere in French, Attack on Titan in German and the more recent Blue Archive in Korean (since it's from a Korean game)

I prefer subs, but I don't care if people prefer dubs.
I've heard all the arguments many times, it just comes down to what someone personally enjoys most.

Live and let live.

The beard on their necks have grown too strong for their puny brains to contain.

I'd love to try and watch Aria in Italian, Yumeiro Patissiere in French, Attack on Titan in German and the more recent Blue Archive in Korean (since it's from a Korean game)

Making an argument over authenticity is absolutely pointless. Anime is more authentic in Japanese, because it's a Japanese cultural product, regardless of the setting the series takes place in. None of this should have anything to do with dubs, because it doesn't matter at all that a dub is less authentically Japanese, and it's absolutely psychotic to care about whether someone prefers to hear a show in their native language or not. Plus, anime is practically the only medium you can get away with, because it's unrealistic, it's obviously really fake when it comes to live action.

HARD disagreement on that Aria dub being remotely in the same ballpark as the others, but that's neither here not there.

You can't make me watch AOT in dubbed. It's just not watchable, The way the sub delivers the lines is perfect compared the the dub. Also, as I rewatched AOT's first season many years ago in dub, I remember it being flawed, the voice acting was off like they didn't care and they muffled the music or something when they spoke. Again, I don't remember much of it, but I hated the dub
Seriously, I implore you to watch the sub and dub of AOT scenes, one is obviously better.

@LostSpectre

Well I would never be making any such arguments if it wasn't for these people, you were on one of the threads so you probably saw how we were all just chatting happily about dubs and these people land in with their "grand opinions", I would never care to make any of these arguments otherwise because I don't care to tell anyone how they should consume their anime. And just to be clear I wasn't making any argument about what is "most authentic", in a technical sense I agree that probably is the Japanese version, I was more talking about a reasonable degree of authenticity and I think the themes of shows can help make some dubs feel more authentic vs others. If someone recommended me a Samurai anime set in olden Japan I would probably watch it in subs because that would feel authentic, but for the anime I listed I think they can easily feel authentic with dub because of reasons I listed, regardless of what is most authentic

You could be right about the Aria dub, I admit I am quite a new anime watcher and I don't have a laser eye/ ear for detail yet compared to others, but all I know is I felt passion in the performances, it was my first slice of life anime and I really smiled a lot watching that show.

Original dub is pretty much always better as the staff of the original dub closely work with the production of the anime, including the budget, this is true for every media. American movie should be watch in english etc. Dub from other countries having to rely only on broad indications and uncertain budgets may lead often to worse results in the end. Anyway, I couldn't care less what other people do, just giving explanation to your question.

@Yorda_trico It's just unnecessary, anyone who is insufferable enough to gatekeep anime over JP audio is an absolute clown, and can't be reasoned with. Trying to bring authenticity into the picture, even if it's just in regard to a more English oriented setting, is a recipe for disaster. As another user pointed out, you're just giving them a platform to voice their irrational hatred, but if you want to try and argue with them, be my guest. I watch almost everything in JP, because I'm quite picky about dubs, but a great dub can make an anime feel a lot more real/grounded, as Japanese pretty much feels like a fantasy language to me, as I only associate it with anime.

@LostSpectre

Yes I appreciate what you are saying about not arguing with them, "feeding the troll" as they say, but I guess I just wanted to vent because I think it is a shame that people would be so toxic. I have felt a lot of strong emotions from the anime I have watched and that makes me want to be positive about them and have good chats with people who share those same passions, so it is annoying when people like that land in with their negative words.

And I guess I was also curious to see what kind of reception this post would get, if a lot of people had replied with the same kind of attitudes as those angry sub people then I would have probably thought "ok time to leave MAL" haha, but I was happy to see some good constructive replies, even if everyone wasn't in full agreement with every point I made.

Superiority complex and hatred.

They despise dubs, and think they are the worst thing ever and they WILL GO out of their way to make sure you know it, and are stupid for not agreeing with it.

It's pretty dumb imo but It's not like they are exactly stoppable.

@APolygons2

Yeh hatred must be a big part of it, because I can't understand why anyone would do it otherwise.

You are right they can never be stopped, when all is said and done people are free to say what they want, but I do think there should be a limit and they shouldn't be allowed to insult people for watching dubs, for example check out what it says about dub watchers on this MAL profile, seems excessive and something the MAL admits should discourage...but maybe they don't care.

They have a point though, dubs in english are terrible. I don't know how anyone can choose this over the japanese voices.

If I listen to a band, I want the original.

I don't want some shitty localisation, especially when they localise it for a country that is not even mine. Every European friend I know watches movies in English as the dubs are horrible, just like US dubs are horrible, especially women trying to do kids voices by just raising their voices a bit.

The irony is that you are angry and that is proved by creating the thread. I have never created a thread that's pro sub or anti US VA.

@Yorda_trico Honestly, I don't really care, I think they just end up missing out on a lot of good stuff.

I watch both sub and dub depending on the anime, and there are a lot of shows that I have enjoyed a lot more in dub.

Love is war went from a show I liked, to one of my favourites purely because I rewatched it in dub.

Steins;gate is my all time favourite show and I have watched it in both sub and dub, both of which are great, but I like the dub more.



And I can't imagine shows like black lagoon or princess principal, hitting nearly as hard in japanese.

@APolygons2

Steins;gate is very high on my watch list, good to know it has an awesome dub :D

Will also checkout Love Is War, hadn't heard of that one!

Being angry at people who are angry is also stup...I mean not very wise.


"Frieren manga clearly takes some of its' inspirations from olden English and Norse cultures"

By that logic it must be dubbed in Welsh or Scottish Gaelic, than subbed in japanese, english ect.



"I have never heard anyone get angry when a Western produced animation/ film gets dubbed for the East or any other language around the world"

How many westerners watched My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic or RWBY (the original show not the anime) with their japanese dubs? By the way, some very high profile seiyuus in those dubs.

Um, I've seen plenty of dub only watchers acting like a-holes to sub only watchers so it's a two way street and not in some alternate universe. I, honestly, don't care whether someone watches sub or dub (I typically watch just sub, but there are some exceptions to which I've preferred the dub. Black Clover being one of those exceptions) I just don't want someone acting like an a-hole over someone else's preference on how they watch anime when how they watch something doesn't affect YOU at all. I don't get it, honestly.

Original dub is pretty much always better as the staff of the original dub closely work with the production of the anime, including the budget, this is true for every media. American movie should be watch in english etc. Dub from other countries having to rely only on broad indications and uncertain budgets may lead often to worse results in the end. Anyway, I couldn't care less what other people do, just giving explanation to your question.