Re Zero s3 censorship confirmed on 2 characters

@Kenzolo-folk If your only argument is that anime characters are anime stylized depictions of humans, then sure, that's exactly what they are. When I say an "underage" hentai fetish, all I'm trying to say is that it's an extension of "normal" porn itself, there's nothing new about "barely legal" teens in live action porn, this has always been a taboo element. I don't care in the slightest if you say animated child porn, it means nothing, like saying animated murder, and expecting there to be a human corpse. Funny that you talk about what is "desirable" in real children, because I would say many of those attributes apply to normal female characters. Sure, the reasons lolicon is taboo apply tangentially to children, but this just isn't very novel or interesting when it comes to sexual fantasy.

@LostSpectre "many of those attributes apply to normal female characters." yeah im sure it does, men like you have always been obsessed with virginity, immaturity, and purity because secretly theyre into children.

@Kenzolo-folk Whatever you say. If you're bothered with "30+ year old men who do nothing with their lives except watch anime and porn all day" then you shouldn't be here. Not because such statement is true regarding the people on the site, but because if you think that way, then you're pointlessly out of place. Furthermore, you're the one acting like you're a lifeless moron by calling others pedos. Just look at your profile. If you're so bothered by what's part of a huge if not the majority of anime then you're just asking to get mad all the time like the vapid teen drama queen you are. What agency on all of this do you think you have? Clueless 17 year old girls like you should be watching K-Dramas and Josei instead of acting like you have anything relevant to say on this subject.

@Kenzolo-folk I see. I take it your resort back to insults indicates you have nothing further to add?

(you also completely skipped my reply on #198)

@LostSpectre

"Normal porn" is not normal. People should not be addicted to porn. It skews your perception on whats normal.
"Normal porn" includes, rape, underage women/men, and abuse. But none of those things are normal. Just because its an extension of "normal" porn does not make it okay to watch.

*im pretty sure i responded to 198. are u talking about an argument there i missed..?

@LostSpectre "many of those attributes apply to normal female characters." yeah im sure it does, men like you have always been obsessed with virginity, immaturity, and purity because secretly theyre into children.

@Kenzolo-folk Lol, there's a lot to infer about yourself on this comment. Body count in the two digits? Is that why you're so pissed that men like virgin women? What's next? Anime is sexist because women are pretty? Anime is racist because characters are white? Are you also mad because videogames appeal to the male fantasy? Lol. Some issues to work on there. Again, I think you'll be better off watching stuff made for 2 digit iq teenage girls. That, or you'll keep projecting in MAL forums ad aeternum.

@kenzolo-folk My mistake, I meant #197.

"Oh, I agree with you that it's disturbing (taboo), even if fictional, we're talking about underage sexualization of smaller, more childlike bodies. Of course, this varies wildly in terms of the body type being depicted, and in the vast majority of cases these characters will be drawn with exaggerated sexual features, as they are still intended to appeal to "normal" heterosexual males, you can see this demonstrated between the two original Re:Zero designs, although Capella could be a petite woman, given a more mature art style. It's unquestionably fetishistic, but it's also completely normal (in terms of brain chemistry) to be aroused by such things."

@0063873192871

only a gross anime fan would try to make someone think believing sexualization of children being wrong is a sign of stupidity. i love this platform for confirming to me that you guys are actually real and the shit people say about anime fans wasn't a joke.

Liking virgin women isnt a problem, its the obsession with virginity. body count? lmfao im 17 and most men gross me out. assuming i have a bodycount at all when you people exist is crazy. Youre probably over 20 and ur body count is 0 because there isnt a single woman that wants to be within 5 feet of you.

i like most "appealing to male fantasy" video games like gta and witcher.. whats ur point?
are you really malding right now because i have the nerve to think animated child porn is wrong? This world has to be a social experiment.

@Kenzolo-folk " lmfao im 17 and most men gross me out" and "Youre probably over 20 and ur body count is 0 because there isnt a single woman that wants to be within 5 feet of you." are conflicting statements. You think not having the other sex within 5 feet of you is good or bad?

And how exactly am I the one malding? You're the 0.9% calling others pedos like a rabid chimpanzee throwing poop at the onlookers.

@LostSpectre

Thats the problem, sure there are a lot more viscerally disturbing things, but plenty of studies have been shown that when people find something on a pornsite, they continue out of curiosity into more and more fucked up shit. If you think that lolicon hentai is on whats on the normal side, that already speaks a hell of a lot of what youve already been conditioned into thinking whats normal and okay.

If im a 18+ year old woman and im watching shouta hentai, you wouldnt find it the least bit concerning when I could be watching something that resembles grown men?

in this case though the re:zero artstyle is very much like your typical loli. especially the tan bunny like character. I dont agree that its normal to be aroused by these things. Normal men are into fluctuated ass and tits, not characters that look like girls. I mean look at the replies on this thread. the majority of men said they dont find lolis attractive at all.

@Kenzolo-folk To jump to the end, as I've said multiple times, this is a taboo, fetishistic sexual interest. It doesn't necessarily relate to "attraction" in any way, at least not in a genuine sense. The elements of lolicon all fit this criteria, it relates to petite size, underage taboo, innocence, vulnerability, etc. but nothing of which is abnormal to be aroused by, your brain is wired to be aroused by things that are weird, taboo, disturbing, extreme, transgressive, etc. So, why would most people be normally attracted to lolicon body types when this relates more to fetishism over natural sexuality?

As for porn escalation, it only affects a minority of people, the vast majority of people will stick to fairly vanilla porn, with gangbangs or the like being the furthest they'll reach into anything extreme. Your viewpoint on lolicon is largely predicated on real world morals, but as I've explained, it's normal to be aroused by immorality in porn, especially when the context is so utterly fake, as it is with hentai. Not to mention, the majority of people who watch lolicon don't relate it to real humans at all. I don't even remotely think of normal anime characters in REAL human terms, they're unique.

Anyway, this isn't really going anywhere, and I don't have any illusions that I'll change your mind on the subject.

@0063873192871

Yes dude youre malding. Youre last reply was going down a list of absurd questions like im some angry social justice warrior that actually gives a shit about what ur saying. talking about body counts and low iqs, ur obviously mad asf.

"You think not having the other sex within 5 feet of you is good or bad?" im saying youre probably so fucking gross that the thought of another sex going anywhere near you is physically repulsive to them. theyre not conflicting statements. we're both virgins for different reasons. i dislike most men, and most women probably dislike you.

@LostSpectre
i respect your understanding at least. we didnt end up coming to an agreement or terms with anything much but still my point stands that watching loli porn is pedophilic. if u have a different opinion so be it, i just hope one day u dont watch real children porn.
it seems that i consider anime characters too much like humans and u think of them as their own separate entity. I dont really understand this, but alright its whatever.

@Kenzolo-folk Sure thing femcel. It's definitely because you dislike men and not because you're fat or something. Such entitlement. Hope you grow out of it. Staying in a place where you believe most people to be le bad won't help you.

@Kenzolo-folk Yes, but it's fictionally pedophilic, which is as relevant as being a fictional murderer as opposed to a real murderer. You have to understand that fiction can only be judged by its objective reality (unless it is hateful, sexist, etc.) not merely by its reflection in reality. Your comment about hurting kids also goes back to my statement that pedophilia is wildly misunderstood, because it simply doesn't apply to lolicon, not that a real pedophile couldn't enjoy it, but they aren't the same. The idea of escalating to hurting children because of an unrealistic cartoon porn fetish is no different than arguments in the 90's that violent video games caused an increase in real life violence and aggression. Plus, you missed the part where I don't even give a fuck about lolicon, I'm just talking about the principle of it. There's countries where lolicon will get you an equivalent child porn sentence, which is just sheer insanity to me, but maybe you would agree with that.

As for equating anime characters, I'm not saying they aren't depicting humans, I'm saying they are fundamentally very different to a literal human.

@LostSpectre

playing a video game with violent mechanics and watching porn are two completely different things. Video games turn a reward system which is required of a game to something more enticing by including story-which usually is in the form of killing other people because people believe stories where others die is complex and interesting. People dont feel good when they kill others in video games because they specifically killed a human, but because their hard work was paid off and they gained something in return. For porn, you arent really working hard for anything, its an immediate dopamine reward. u clicked on that porn genre specifically because it features lolis and you knew you would be aroused specifically by that.

i mean its hard to believe u dont gaf about lolicon when ur still here arguing ur case that its okay to watch it and on ur #1 favorite is a notorious loli lmfao.
no, i think its silly to give someone the same sentence for watching loli porn as you would a real child. its kinda disrespectful to the child who had to suffer from that. but only watching loli porn should probably put u on some watchlist.

@Tropisch ur not exactly a winner for spending ur whole day watching anime and jerking it to animated children but i digress.

Censorship is and will always be shit, especially when done for the idiotic "for a global audience" garbage.

So, i don't really care about this as Re:Zero is not the type of anime i'm usually interested in (male targeted isekai) but, given the type of audience this kind of anime targets, aren't these changes weird? I mean, it's not like this is a super popular mainstream battle shounen, like, i dunno, Jujutsu Kaisen or Boku no Hero Academia, where these kind of changes would have made sense.

Now, as for the outfits themselves, given that the changes aren't even anything drastic or far removed from the originals, i don't see what all the fuss is about.

The first one, especially, since she looks like a 10-12 year old at best, i can understand the reasoning behind the changes and actually prefer the new outfit, although, to be honest, her outfit is ugly either way lol.

The second one, thanks to the knowledge of her representing the sin of lust, i think they should have just kept the bikini top or had a different but still more revealing top than the actual redesign she has now, as for the bottoms.....i don't even know what the underwear looking thing in the original is supposed to be, but the change to short shorts looks much, much better in any case.

@Dauphine How Re:Zero is male-targeted isekai when it's most feminist fantasy story in fiction.

Why females prefer Jujutsu Kaisen, edgy shirtless male characters with trash female cast over Re:Zero which has good-written female cast.

Re:Zero has hot male characters too btw, just doesn't have enough screentime.

@Okeanix Oh, i didn't know, i haven't watched any of the animes i named, to be honest, i was just going based on assumptions.

@Dauphine Don't worry, you're perfectly right. Okeanix seems to have gone mad.

@logopolis Dark Fantasy Isekai that severely punishes the Male Main Character for every action, where both males and females are treated equally in a high fantasy setting, which is very rare, specifically from Japan.

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@Okeanix The male viewer is supposed to find the female characters adorable, the MC is a sort of self-insert hence not terribly interesting. The MC gets punished for basically the same reason that violent tsunderes exist. The (assumed) audience isn't quite sure if they should be watching stuff like this and not going out and being social or doing EET stuff, so there's an element of self-hatred which it provides an outlet for.

If you want to see an actual feminist fantasy, watch Revolutionary Girl Utena. Anything with a male protagonist and a cast otherwise dominated by cute girls is aimed at a male audience first and foremost. Even if the girls are well-written. That just means it's a well-written story aimed at a male audience first and foremost.

WHY THIS THREAD IS POPULAR NOBODY CARES!

PROOF OF NOBODY CARES:
https://twitter.com/Okeanix1/status/1773318059048001835

Omg. Why people who aren't even read Re:Zero complains stuff? Author is part of anime staff, supervising everything. Author doesn't care, why you do?

@Okeanix This is like saying that noone cares that cs2 has anticheat problems, shitty hitboxes and low server tick rates, just because it has positive reviews ... There is not a single person that will not tell me the game is BS even tho they play it.

I watch re:Zero, I think it's a good series and I think that censorship is crap. But that does not mean I'm gonna dislike the show.

@KeyiOs How does giving a loli character 5% more clothing negatively impact your experience with Re:Zero? Especially when you've never seen these characters in the anime before, meaning it's not censorship but rather redesigns of characters over 10 years old who only appeared in a short arc (and thus may be considered outdated).

Re:Zero is not an ecchi series; it contains no sex scenes or even references to such in the dialogue. So, why does it matter to you?

It's also worth mentioning that these characters are still the most scantily clad compared to the rest of the cast.

Censorship is and will always be shit, especially when done for the idiotic "for a global audience" garbage.

You liteally have a lolicon on your favs....
And you literally have an anime that sexualizes underage girls on your favs...

I think the pedo here is you

@Kenzolo-folk You sure love all these baseless accusations you throw around huh? Thanks for proving my point though.

You literally have Kentaro Miura on your favs, and you also have his manga full of rape as your pfp.
And don't forget Darling in the Franxx on favs too....

@MadanielFL
i dont know this dudes private life, i just read his manga bro. and yeah i wish the rape was toned down in berserk. as much as he wanted his manga to be dark and edgy sometimes it came off as a straight fetish. i like berserk because i like guts' character, the rape shit going on doesnt entice me like how loli sex entices a lolicon enjoyer.

like i said before, i dont hate re:zero for having lolis, and i dont hate animes for having sexualizing aspects. theres A LOT of moments in berserk that i hate and wish was not in it, i never said it was flawless. I like darling because I like the two main characters, i dont watch it for the sexualization going on. i dont see how this is compared to watching literal loli hentai lmfao.

If loli hentai should be illegal because it depicts something illegal irl, then anyone that owns a Berserk manga is a criminal in possession of rape porn.
Same thing could apply to Darling in the Franxx.

Miura was publicly a lolicon, this wasn't something private of him, he literally drew a whole sketch defending lolicon because he was mad that the Japanese parliament was trying to pass a law making lolicon illegal.

@MadanielFL

Yeah except for me personally, child sex/rape in media is a far bigger offense than adult sex/rape. While the child rape of guts was supposed to be disgusting (which was one page) , loli hentai is supposed to be arousing. If a show like game of thrones had a rape scene with adults, its not the same thing as showing a rape scene with a little child, its just simply not.
Darling in the franxx may have sexualization, but its a show targeted towards teenagers featuring teenage characters. There is no sexualization of prepubescent children in darlifra. A teenager liking child shit is still weird, but a teenager like teenage sexual shit is not. Imma be honest, idk why ur mentioning darlifra as if i ever said teenage-resembling sexualization is bad. Its prepubescent little kid characters thats the problem.
Rape in media is deplorable and disgusting, but more tolerable because it implies attraction to grown people. However rape of children thats supposed to be for the viewers satisfaction is a whole different level of disgusting.

its only downright disgusting and creepy when its supposed to be arousing and it features literal prepubescent children.