| By what standard is the creative staff being considered western? The director Abel Gongora has lived in Japan for 10 years so I'm assuming he's a Japanese citizen, that seems like a pretty important part of the creative staff |
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| How exactly does it not meet MAL guidelines for what can go in the database? AFAIK it does, the only thing about it is that it adapts a Western property, and even with that there are plenty of anime in here that do the same thing. |
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KayY_Y said: How exactly does it not meet MAL guidelines for what can go in the database? The whole producer committee aside from the Animation studio and the main director (who's a staff in the Animation studio) is American. There is not enough people from Japan involved in the creation of the project to be labelled as made by them. KayY_Y said: the only thing about it is that it adapts a Western property The origin of the source material is irrelevant. Other entries are either done by Japanese companies , or are joint-production with a majority of the staff involved being Japanese. Marids_Gift said: The director Abel Gongora has lived in Japan for 10 years so I'm assuming he's a Japanese citizen From what i can see , he still has his Spanish nationality. |
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KayY_Y said:
How exactly does it not meet MAL guidelines for what can go in the database?
How exactly does it not meet MAL guidelines for what can go in the database?
The whole producer committee aside from the Animation studio and the main director (who's a staff in the Animation studio) is American.
There is not enough people from Japan involved in the creation of the project to be labelled as made by them.
KayY_Y said:
the only thing about it is that it adapts a Western property
the only thing about it is that it adapts a Western property
The origin of the source material is irrelevant.
Other entries are either done by Japanese companies , or are joint-production with a majority of the staff involved being Japanese.
Marids_Gift said:
The director Abel Gongora has lived in Japan for 10 years so I'm assuming he's a Japanese citizen
The director Abel Gongora has lived in Japan for 10 years so I'm assuming he's a Japanese citizen
From what i can see , he still has his Spanish nationality.
| @Alexioos95 one of the executive producers and the director both represent science saru, MAL has never made clear guidelines on nationality |
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Marids_Gift said: MAL has never made clear guidelines on nationality True. You should send a DM to a database mods. They have little presence in the forums , and they will be able to give you a better answer than random users like us. |
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Marids_Gift said:
MAL has never made clear guidelines on nationality
MAL has never made clear guidelines on nationality
True.
You should send a DM to a database mods.
They have little presence in the forums , and they will be able to give you a better answer than random users like us.
| @Alexioos95 I want to wait until we have the full staff list so I can best make my case |
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KayY_Y said:
How exactly does it not meet MAL guidelines for what can go in the database?
How exactly does it not meet MAL guidelines for what can go in the database?
The whole producer committee aside from the Animation studio and the main director (who's a staff in the Animation studio) is American.
There is not enough people from Japan involved in the creation of the project to be labelled as made by them.
KayY_Y said:
the only thing about it is that it adapts a Western property
the only thing about it is that it adapts a Western property
The origin of the source material is irrelevant.
Other entries are either done by Japanese companies , or are joint-production with a majority of the staff involved being Japanese.
Marids_Gift said:
The director Abel Gongora has lived in Japan for 10 years so I'm assuming he's a Japanese citizen
The director Abel Gongora has lived in Japan for 10 years so I'm assuming he's a Japanese citizen
From what i can see , he still has his Spanish nationality.
| The show's opening credits say otherwise. https://twitter.com/MattHades/status/1713556130289373560 Yes, most of the producers are from the west, but that's because the show is based on a Hollywood movie. These people usually have to be involved with the production due to their original involvement with the source material. The majority of the lead creative positions are filled by people in the anime industry, which also includes Abel Góngora. |
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@Alexioos95 I want to wait until we have the full staff list so I can best make my case
| @Marids_Gift Full staff is here: https://x.com/silkalmondspilk/status/1713586602763563244?s=20 All the creative staff except the showrunners are Japanese or affiliated with Japanese studios, like Gongora or Choi, who've been working in the anime industry for years. Both are pretty much founding members of Science Saru, been there since the beginning. |
| Also, if this can't be added because of Gongora's nationality (which is incredibly stupid), then why things directed by Michael Arias, Thomas LeSean or Thomas Romain are in the database? Don't contradict yourselves, please. Especially since Gongora has been a part of Science Saru since its beginnings in 2013. I don't think he's ever even worked on western animation. |
| Isn't this done by Science Saru, put it on the DB. I need it in my favorite, yesterday! |
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@orangeteespin It's a more direct adaptation of the Canadian comic book. I believe this will be the first anime set in Toronto.
| @shadyhawkins O'Malley has emphasized several times over the course of the project that Scott Pilgrim Takes Off is not a direct adaptation of either the comic or the movie. Despite this, the marketing for the series has relied heavily on its connections to the Edgar Wright adaptation. I have no doubt that the show will lift elements and scenes from the comic that the film was unable to, but said film is an undeniable foundation that this series is building off of. |
| MAL is stupid and vague rules and guidelines. I don't get what's harm in adding all animations works since by definition everything animated is anime. There are so many great shows which don't have their own database and often clubbed with live action shows and movies. Or just launch myanimationlist.net already. |
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| Cyberpunk Edgerunners Okay Star Wars Visions Okay SuperCrooks Okay Scott Pilgrim Nah bro ??? |
| https://imgur.com/a/dwXQcZT production staff is mostly Japanese, it is anime |
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Cyberpunk Edgerunners
Okay
Star Wars Visions
Okay
SuperCrooks
Okay
Scott Pilgrim
Nah bro
???
Okay
Star Wars Visions
Okay
SuperCrooks
Okay
Scott Pilgrim
Nah bro
???
| @TheMangaManiac yeah it's silly. Science SARU is a japanese studio on MAL. https://www.sciencesaru.com/works |
| HACKs! 🤢🤮 |
| It is asinine that Scott is not added to the database. Science SARU animated it for crying out loud! There are so many joint productions on MAL such as Afro Samurai, it makes zero sense for Scott to be excluded. |
| Yeah I don't see how this is much different than the Yasuke anime. This anime should be listed on the site. |
| Its not on here because we aren't allowed to have good things |
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| Japanese studio made it, for that alone its an anime and should be on MAL. By definition it deserves it far more than most of the Korean and Chinese animation listed on the site that is there just cause "its eastern asian and we cant bother splitting into My Aeni List and My Donghua List". |
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Japanese studio made it, for that alone its an anime and should be on MAL. By definition it deserves it far more than most of the Korean and Chinese animation listed on the site that is there just cause "its eastern asian and we cant bother splitting into My Aeni List and My Donghua List".
| @Technopunk That's actually a pretty good point. But yeah, it's by no means even the first anime that was made with a western audience in mind (not that it was intended EXCLUSIVELY for a western audience, but it was hugely intended for western as well). Definitely think it should be included. |
| "It's a tragic misunderstanding that could have been easily avoided if he just finished his sentence in time!" — Richard Watterson (The Amazing World of Gumball) |
| Even if i agree that it should be here(there are several western shows here already), but the writing had nothing with Science Saru's staff, it was all done by O'Malley and BenDavid Grabinski. MAL might as well stop making these distinctions and accept everything. |
SteelingMaxNov 25, 2023 10:16 PM
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| baffled this isn't on here yet actually stupid bro wtf |
"Leonardo... it wasn't, by any means, only your eyes that we welcomed into Libra." - Klaus von Reinherz |
| yes, have afro samurai and all the chinese and korean animated shows on here but god forbid scott pilgrim is on here |
"Leonardo... it wasn't, by any means, only your eyes that we welcomed into Libra." - Klaus von Reinherz |
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If we're going to pick favorites here like on VNDB, then I'll leave for a different site that lets me track every anime I watch and not just the ones the staff thinks are
| @The12thGripper AniList has Scott Pilgrim in their database, thats about as far as I know. Does it have every anime you watch and not just the ones staff thinks are? I dunno really, but at least in this one specific case they are better than MAL. At least you can transfer your list there from MAL with ease, so it wont be a hard move. |
"Don't let your memes be dreams."- Ancient Japanese proverb, probably |
| Saw it yesterday and I'm pretty pleased that there is no place for this show on MAL - subpar cash-grab by netflix |
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Saw it yesterday and I'm pretty pleased that there is no place for this show on MAL - subpar cash-grab by netflix
| @KnightmareNEKO whether you like it or not it should be here, it is anime |
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Saw it yesterday and I'm pretty pleased that there is no place for this show on MAL - subpar cash-grab by netflix
| @KnightmareNEKO Bad opinion, leave |
| All that should matter is the studio. If the primary studio is Japanese/Chinese/Korean, it's anime and belongs on here. Scott Pilgrim --> Science SARU --> Japan --> should be on MAL Howl's Moving Castle --> Studio Ghibli --> Japan --> should be on MAL Avatar/Korra --> Nickelodeon --> USA --> should not be on MAL Castlevania --> Powerhouse Animation --> USA --> should not be on MAL It should not be this hard. |
| anidb has now decided that it is anime. Hopefully MAL mods get their heads out of their asses and add it here as well. |
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