| I won’t call it a good nor bad Gundam anime until the final episode. I can only say that the some of the mech designs are really cool such as the Dariblade. Well, I like red mobile suits with a horn. :/ |
| I've pretty much loved every episode of season 2, season 1 fould be slow at times. |
| I enjoy both so far. They complement one another well, however I can't have a wider conclusion until it ends. |
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| I'll be honest, as much as I wanted to like this AU, season 2 has been a trainwreck so far. I'm curious to see how the script writers will even manage to wrap up all that's left in just about four episodes. I do think it's great that the show has brought new popularity to the Gundam series, hope at least we'll see more new AU coming sooner. |
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avonyy said: Absolutely.Nah, I think it's pretty underrated I was like WTF when I was the topic. |
| second season is a lot lot better than the first and has better twists. But the abrupt change thinks Sunrise was worried this will flop like IBO did so they cut the amount of episodes. Not sure if they will give this another season. Not to mention they have a ton of other projects like that live action (probably will flop), seed Movie(s), hathaway movies 2 and 3, probably a lot of UC stuff. |
| With how many complaints there are toward this series, how can you even say it's being overrated? lol |
| For me its not a season vs season thing. I think we spent too much time on the dueling that ultimately wasnt very important. Time should have been on company management/purpose and general mech piloting/education. Like why do these companies compete? is there a war that all these war machines are needed for? Where is the administration? How does any of this effect Earth? Before Miorine went to the school, what did they even do since duels wouldnt matter. I get that people werent fans of s1 for the lack of Gundam conflict, but now its just things happening, not giving it enough time to "cook", then jumping to the next issue. Idk the world building really leaves much to be desired, i dont even know if there is just normal civilians in space at this point, everyone just seems to be in these gundam companies. Its like if everyone was working at Lockheed Martin and Boeing and that was all there was to society, also who are they even fighting with these "military contracts"? The story is dropping off for me. We'll go through the motions of a typical Gundam ending, but this universe feels really shallow. |
mylegsJun 19, 2023 5:15 AM
| Second season is better than the first for me. Some say this is one of their most favourite Gundam series but it is one of the worse ones for me. The 3 things I dislike about the series are the ‘school life’ feel, the safe style dueling, and the romance because all 3 were mediocre for both seasons in my opinion. The romance was used as a side bait (straight, yuri, etc) and it served no important purpose in the story. It did not help that Miorine is quite hard to like for me with her constant naive, prideful behavior in many situations. |
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Koustubh said: And none of this had any real impact, as even the most complex and influential subplots were resolved in short scenes. In fact, the first season was even better in some ways, because by simply copying Utena with the mecha, it didn't try to claim what it couldn't.ktg said: Agreed. I like S1, but S2 just builds upon it so much more. We move on from the "school duels" to a more global space politics which are actually impactful on a similar global scale.Actually the second season is much much better than the first one. The first one looks like a generic sci-fi SoL school anime. |
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Koustubh said: It's hard for me to blame you if this was your first Gundam and it impressed you. But other than that, it's just a very superficial show that doesn't develop anything from what it has.RobertBobert said: I don't know man, it felt much impactful to me than the school duels. Given school duels were good, I always felt that global geopolitics was always missing like it was from the start in IBO. Finally, we got that here in S2 of GWitch. And none of this had any real impact, as even the most complex and influential subplots were resolved in short scenes. In fact, the first season was even better in some ways, because by simply copying Utena with the mecha, it didn't try to claim what it couldn't. PS: I can't comment about Utena because I have never watched it. |
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Koustubh said: Well, if you like it, then no problem. I can't criticize you for liking what I didn't like.RobertBobert said: Yeah, it's second actually. The first I watched was IBO, but that too only the first season. I do agree with you that it could have been expanded further, but whatever was presented I liked it 😅It's hard for me to blame you if this was your first Gundam and it impressed you. But other than that, it's just a very superficial show that doesn't develop anything from what it has. |
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IluVG-Dam said: They are bisexual, especially Suletta, but yes, that doesn't change the fact that the show was very heavily overrated and given plot armor because of yuri. Also, although I still have conflicting feelings about Aldnoah, I would like to see the reaction of all these people if, in addition to the generally bad ending, Ichiro had big balls and decided to give the romantic line an ending in the style of this show.Bolillo99 said: Umm no Totally underrated and underappreciated by many. Yes the storyline is sometimes hard to follow and fully understand but if you watch it with care then you'll realize what an amazing story sunrise delivered. an actual underrated gundam series is gundam Burai IDk what were you on. the yuri is soft and there were better yuri then this (rec: hero san and former general san) and there is better Gundam series then this. (rec: 00, IBO) hell there were better mecha then this (Borderline, Promare) that have romance ( Aldnoah.Zero, Dyzennon)with better world building. this series's potential is like a fine cut of steak and the way Ōkouchi cooked it, is so raw i think i might get food sickness. and it is definitely overrated BC the shippers are furiously pleasuring each other, that this is the best gundam series on twitter. ALL because the main characters are lesbians. no other reasons |
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IluVG-Dam said: Do you think this is a famous case of Bandai's intervention in Gundam? But what were they guided by?RobertBobert said: less ichiro and more Bandai's international show committee They are bisexual, especially Suletta, but yes, that doesn't change the fact that the show was very heavily overrated and given plot armor because of yuri. Also, although I still have conflicting feelings about Aldnoah, I would like to see the reaction of all these people if, in addition to the generally bad ending, Ichiro had big balls and decided to give the romantic line an ending in the style of this show. |
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IluVG-Dam said: But this is not his first Gundam, if I remember correctly? Or are you saying that the problem really was that Ichiro went too far in trying to turn this into Utena rip off? I thought the novelization would expand on this, but it looks like it's going down the same path of useless ambiguity.RobertBobert said: The international market Do you think this is a famous case of Bandai's intervention in Gundam? But what were they guided by? It's ichiro's fault for insisting on the romance angle and trying to make it work, not understanding bandai's markets now if this was a manga i can see ichiro's plan working but still fk him |
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IluVG-Dam said: If you trust the interview, the producers initially decided to make it a female version of the classic formula, and then Ichiro decided to make the show a school show in the middle of the finished script. I was only embarrassed that although the duels were a clear homage to Utena, Ichiro insisted that it was the result of a brainstorming session.RobertBobert said: But this is not his first Gundam, if I remember correctly? Or are you saying that the problem really was that Ichiro went too far in trying to turn this into Utena rip off? I thought the novelization would expand on this, but it looks like it's going down the same path of useless ambiguity. I am not ichiro, so i can't make the claims for him I dont know his thought process, i dont know who's idea it was to make this a yuri show. This is all speculation But what i can say for cirtain is bandai at the very least moved to make it able to even air over seas |
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| Everyone's free to have an opinion. Personally I wish they had less duels and showed more development between Miorine and Suletta but that's just me being a yuri fan. All I know is this is the most successful gundam since 2008. And I'm quite happy about that fact. https://comicbook.com/anime/news/gundam-profits-record-witch-from-mercury |
RobertBobert said: Not trying to discount your opinion but latebloomer lesbians do exist. Just because they experimented with men in the past or had crushes on men doesn't mean that they're ultimately bisexual, especially if they feel no attraction towards men after they found a woman they want to spend the rest of their life with. Comphet is a thing and Suletta came from a conservative background. It would be good to remember this next time.IluVG-Dam said: They are bisexual, especially Suletta, but yes, that doesn't change the fact that the show was very heavily overrated and given plot armor because of yuri. Also, although I still have conflicting feelings about Aldnoah, I would like to see the reaction of all these people if, in addition to the generally bad ending, Ichiro had big balls and decided to give the romantic line an ending in the style of this show.Umm no an actual underrated gundam series is gundam Burai IDk what were you on. the yuri is soft and there were better yuri then this (rec: hero san and former general san) and there is better Gundam series then this. (rec: 00, IBO) hell there were better mecha then this (Borderline, Promare) that have romance ( Aldnoah.Zero, Dyzennon)with better world building. this series's potential is like a fine cut of steak and the way Ōkouchi cooked it, is so raw i think i might get food sickness. and it is definitely overrated BC the shippers are furiously pleasuring each other, that this is the best gundam series on twitter. ALL because the main characters are lesbians. no other reasons |
TrickRift said: Blaming for erasing lesbians @ by erasing bisexuals - classic.RobertBobert said: Not trying to discount your opinion but latebloomer lesbians do exist. Just because they experimented with men in the past or had crushes on men doesn't mean that they're ultimately bisexual, especially if they feel no attraction towards men after they found a woman they want to spend the rest of their life with. Comphet is a thing and Suletta came from a conservative background. It would be good to remember this next time.They are bisexual, especially Suletta, but yes, that doesn't change the fact that the show was very heavily overrated and given plot armor because of yuri. Also, although I still have conflicting feelings about Aldnoah, I would like to see the reaction of all these people if, in addition to the generally bad ending, Ichiro had big balls and decided to give the romantic line an ending in the style of this show. |
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RobertBobert said: TrickRift said: Blaming for erasing lesbians @ by erasing bisexuals - classic.Not trying to discount your opinion but latebloomer lesbians do exist. Just because they experimented with men in the past or had crushes on men doesn't mean that they're ultimately bisexual, especially if they feel no attraction towards men after they found a woman they want to spend the rest of their life with. Comphet is a thing and Suletta came from a conservative background. It would be good to remember this next time. RobertBobert said: Saying that they exists does not erase bisexuals. Bisexuals are higher in population than lesbians in general. Who's the one erasing anyone here? TrickRift said: Blaming for erasing lesbians @ by erasing bisexuals - classic.Not trying to discount your opinion but latebloomer lesbians do exist. Just because they experimented with men in the past or had crushes on men doesn't mean that they're ultimately bisexual, especially if they feel no attraction towards men after they found a woman they want to spend the rest of their life with. Comphet is a thing and Suletta came from a conservative background. It would be good to remember this next time. RobertBobert said: Blaming for erasing lesbians @ by erasing bisexuals - classic. Also, odd of you to be so hostile. Have you taken your meds yet? It might help. 💗 |
TrickRift said: Triggered by mention of bisexuals, passive aggressively convincing me that if a girl in a lesbian relationship is showing attention to men, then she's just an experimental lesbian @ accusing me of hostility when I'm being ironic about this - again, a classic. In general, it amuses me how people like you obsessively say that bisexuals exist when a character you thought was gay ends up in a straight relationship, but when a character in a gay relationship shows attention to the other sex, you literally do everything to deny any bisexuality.Saying that they exists does not erase bisexuals. Bisexuals are higher in population than lesbians in general. Who's the one erasing anyone here? Also, odd of you to be so hostile. Have you taken your meds yet? It might help. 💗 |
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| It got heavily overrated before it even aired and the anituber that overhyped it like gigguk, mother's Basement, glass reflection, etc basically tuned out in favor of other shows and have low experience with the franchise in general. People have little interest in kits not named aerial and the show had too many false expectations. It was said to revolutionize gundam for modern audiences. It didn't even manage to air for a full year, the gundam fandom got hijacked by the yuri fandom where they didn't care what happened as long as suletta and miorine were together. This happened with lycoris recoil too where main talk about the show is chisa Taki. I can tell it is overrated of how many people are angry about seed supposedly replacing wfm, despite the seed movie being in development for the past 20 years, and them saying from the beginning that wfm was only 2 cours. Also seed is the best au while wfm has off placing and a forced yuri irrelevant to the plot. Season 1 felt irrelevant and season 2 went so fast with massive info dumps with a half asked time skip ending. Secelia had nice legs but that is bad pro to give. Thank God the yuri fandom is done with gundam and seed is back with the fandom returning to its routes. |
icefirestone23Jul 3, 2023 6:42 AM
icefirestone23 said: Oh, Glass Reflection. I really appreciate this guy's videos, but I had to noticeably tenser when he literally romanticized a hack attack on MAL just because the hacker left a link to his favorite show or when he literally complained about Sunrise because they ended show as a cliffhanger in the 17th episode. It's like this year is a big test for a lot of the authors I trust.It got heavily overrated before it even aired and the anituber that overhyped it like gigguk, mother's Basement, glass reflection, etc basically tuned out in favor of other shows and have low experience with the franchise in general. People have little interest in kits not named aerial and the show had too many false expectations. It was said to revolutionize gundam for modern audiences. It didn't even manage to air for a full year, the gundam fandom got hijacked by the yuri fandom where they didn't care what happened as long as suletta and miorine were together. This happened with lycoris recoil too where main talk about the show is chisa Taki. I can tell it is overrated of how many people are angry about seed supposedly replacing wfm, despite the seed movie being in development for the past 20 years, and them saying from the beginning that wfm was only 2 cours. Also seed is the best au while wfm has off placing and a forced yuri irrelevant to the plot. Season 1 felt irrelevant and season 2 went so fast with massive info dumps with a half asked time skip ending. Secelia had nice legs but that is bad pro to give. Thank God the yuri fandom is done with gundam and seed is back with the fandom returning to its routes. Are people really complaining that Sunrise went ahead and forgot about G-Witch right after the finale? Well, they announced a CGI mini-series with a western director and, of course, a female protagonist. But at least it's back to the formula again (Its canonical spin-off for original UC show)i nstead of trying to flirt with the wrong audience. |
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icefirestone23 said: I'm angry too and I haven't even seen Witch from Mercury yet. Seed is the worst AU Gundam of all time.I can tell it is overrated of how many people are angry about seed supposedly replacing wfm, despite the seed movie being in development for the past 20 years |
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Lucifrost said: icefirestone23 said: I'm angry too and I haven't even seen Witch from Mercury yet. Seed is the worst AU Gundam of all time.I can tell it is overrated of how many people are angry about seed supposedly replacing wfm, despite the seed movie being in development for the past 20 years Seed is the greatest. Stuff like turn a are so bad in comparison and defend bh tomino purists. Stuff like 00 and ibo dropped the ball so hard, people do not want to be reminded of season 2. That is why it has the biggest anime pop culture impact of perhaps any 2000s anime. More than fmab, death note, gurren Lagann. I think only naruto and bleach can compete with that. Wfm just failed to reach expectations. Even those that defended it feel their rug tugged under them with sunrise ending it under a year. It is so poorly placed with way too much info dumps in the second half, people are left confuses. First half runs to slow. The yuri is irrelevant to the plot and people do not like suletta vs guel. Just read the reviews. The positive ones are by people that have seen very little of the franchise and have a poor reference point. The majority are negative and that is by long time fans. Worst thing is it brought the cancerous yuri fans that are now attacking seed. They have already sent death threats to the rest of the fanbase. |
icefirestone23Jul 3, 2023 9:12 AM
icefirestone23 said: That means I'm more likely to enjoy Witch from Mercury, since I've only been a Gundam fan for a short time.Just read the reviews. The positive ones are by people that have seen very little of the franchise and have a poor reference point. The majority are negative and that is by long time fans. |
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Lucifrost said: icefirestone23 said: That means I'm more likely to enjoy Witch from Mercury, since I've only been a Gundam fan for a short time.Just read the reviews. The positive ones are by people that have seen very little of the franchise and have a poor reference point. The majority are negative and that is by long time fans. Wfm brought the yuri cancer straight to gundam's doorsteps. They have already harassed the existing gundam fans and made the mods ban so many. Wfm ended and the yuri fans to go with it. People have been waiting for the seed movie for 20 years. No one really wanted WFM and especially did not want it to be a yuri rallying point |
icefirestone23 said: I'd rather have that than Seed.No one really wanted WFM and especially did not want it to be a yuri rallying point |
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Lucifrost said: icefirestone23 said: I'd rather have that than Seed.No one really wanted WFM and especially did not want it to be a yuri rallying point Yet you cannot bother to watch wfm and are not Buying the kits. So where is your contribution |
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