Engage Kiss Episode 11 Discussion

_AnimeLover__ said:
I don't get why people trust random sources about this getting 2 cours. It was never confirmed. It is just a rumor or prediction. If there is 2cours, there would already be news and mal would have already updated it. So how they knew such a source while mal don't

Marinate1016 said:

MAL are not reliable as a source so I don’t really care what they update. The two cours stuff came out months ago.

_AnimeLover__ said:
that source came out with no news. Just a post that just says that without any evidence. This is literally how rumors and gossips spread. On the other hand, mal literally post news about this kind of thing and then update it. In other words, mal is much reliable than the unreliable post you were looking at

Marinate1016 said:

Great point sadly you have a stock profile picture so your opinion doesn’t count+ratio

Rem4lifexD said:
Great episode! Ayano has arrived with the helicopter and Sharon forces him on there against his will. Kisara told him to go but isn't in the best situation currently...
Kisara is caught up in the attack of Shuu's sister...
Kanna is now at the bottom of the ocean...
And Kisara is not in a very good condition also and is asleep.
Kanna has been ranked as an S-class demon!
Kisara wakes up and Shuu hugs her.
She makes him promise he will leave this city and not fight demons anymore though she knows he won't stick to that.
Shuu says he doesn't need any of his memories anymore and Kisara kisses him.
Ayano was pretty upset Shuu will be leaving and starts crying xD.
And...
It seems that Kisara is the one who now doesn't have memories!

Looking forward to the next episode!

viperhc said:
Wow, what a great and somewhat confusing episode! It was great to get more backstory on Kisara as I have liked her throughout this series despite her taking Shuu's memories.

It appears that she has returned to Shuu the memories she took in exchange for powering up to defeat demons as shown by her asking who is he at the end of the episode.

I have several questions, with a main one being if the memories gave her power, wouldn't that mean that she is now in a very weakened state since she fed off of the memories? Or was that just a price to pay instead of something like money? And is Kisara an S-Class demon herself? I think she was considered that in a previous episode? If not it's going to be interesting how they handle S-Class Kanna, and if Shuu will make any further sacrifices to somehow save Kanna. Lastly, are Kanna and Kisara technically half sisters? (I'm assuming they have the same mom who was a demon or half demon herself? Not fully clear on that lol).

chopstick___ said:
The episode was mainly focused on Kisara and Shu's past together. To make a contract with a demon You could either give up your soul, memories, 5 senses or life span which is nice to know now. It also seems that Kisara gave Shu's memories back to him but she lost hers in the process. I think she may have cancelled the contract by locking hands and kissing Shu as Kisara changed the contract books rules?

DragonTheOne said:


So far in the series, Kisara has always consumed Shu's memories whenever she needed to transform into her devil form (the one in black dress) up until episode 10 where she was able to transform and save Sharon without needing to kiss Shu. I am guessing that is because in Episode 9, she took all the memories of Miles from Shu, which is such a big chunk that it broke Shu, so she still has some remaining fuel left to transform. My interpretation is that memories are like fuel for Kisara to transform and stay in her devil form.

At the start of Episode 1, Ayano classified Kisara as a super A-class demon, and later in Episode 3, Miles reveals that Kisara is the first and only A-class demon in Bayron City.

I don't think that Kanna and Kisara are half-sisters, unless Asmodeus is also the mother of Kisara which at this point seems unlikely. Therefore, Kisara and Kanna's relationship is similar to hers with Shu - very distant relative. And by distant, I mean something like cousin twenty times removed, since their common ancestry is from several centuries ago.

viperhc said:

Thanks for the explanation, and right if Shuu's memories fueled Kisara's transformation I would think that giving the memories back would starve, if not kill, Kisara, but it didn't.

I didn't remember what demon level Kisara was other than it was pretty high so thanks for clearing that up, and I believe S-Class is higher than A-Class so fighting Kanna will be a challenge to everyone involved.

Got it on the family connection, some people starting saying this was incense or something but twenty-times removed shouldn't matter for hooking up then lol.

DragonTheOne said:


You are right, Kisara canceled the contract. The reason that Kisara altered the contract was to put in place a way to save Shu in the future if he ever reaches the breaking point.

Shu does not give any thought to sacrificing his own memories for his goal, and the more memories he loses, the more nonchalant about it he becomes. He was even willing to give all his memories and soul to Kisara at the end. It is better for Kisara to control the contract as she clearly cares for Shu more than he does for himself, and is able to objectively decide when it is time to call quits.

Now imagine if Shu was the one to hold control over the contract. He wouldn't have canceled it and there is no way for Kisara to return his memories back. Kisara is aware of this right from the start and she altered it out of pure love for him. She would help him to fight for his goals, and when the time comes, she will bear all the burden of the contract for him. Just pure and beautiful unconditional love.

kakeguruitwinxx said:


I'm saying... people are trying to make this an incest just so they can celebrate wincest prevails for whatever weird reason. Kisara is more than several hundred years old. She spent several hundred years old just getting impaled in that cave. That's already older than his great-great-great-great grandparents. Might as well call a random Japanese and a random white American dating incest because well, like, 3000 years ago they had the same ancestor.