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Mar 10, 2022 9:17 AM

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Animaay said:
I think it's better for these kinds of people that loli's exist. That way they don't go after actual children.


Only if they are actually also attracted to real children.

I don't think attraction to loli and attraction to real children are mutually inclusive. Both ways can exist, but not absolute!
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Mar 10, 2022 9:17 AM

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I'm not even really a loli fan, but I'd probably still be called a pedo if I came out and said I like characters like Tatsumaki from One Punch Man or something. Eventhough there are plenty of grown ass women in real life that are short and/or have small chests.....

It is quite crazy that actual real women, who has small frames are affected by this nonsense.

Right? Even if the character is short with a larger chest, people will still call you out,because just being small = pedo. Eventhough again,there are real woman with small bodies and large chests. You can't win.
Mar 10, 2022 9:18 AM

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jvniper said:
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So apologize now to the normal people that you just falsely called the bottom of society!

No, they're not normal. I will never apologize to those freaks.

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And? That hasn't stopped people on your side from making that dumbass argument.

And I don't control them so there's nothing I can do about that.


Well done consuming the freaky products from the people who you called freaks.

You are quite the freak in that regard.
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Mar 10, 2022 9:23 AM

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I am so tired of people using FBI memes for literally everything. A woman can call anyone cute but the same thing is unacceptable for a man even for fictional characters.
Mar 10, 2022 9:30 AM

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Not to beat a dead horse but I find hitting them with bricks until they stop is the optimal solution


I also find castrating lolicons being the optimal solution, myself. But I digress.


What trauma have lolicons done to you? Good lord!
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Mar 10, 2022 9:42 AM

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jvniper said:
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So apologize now to the normal people that you just falsely called the bottom of society!

No, they're not normal. I will never apologize to those freaks.

What is your standard from wich you have the audacity to judge what's normal and what's not? Is it anything more than your unreasonable prejudice towards a group of people that you may or may not know?
Mar 10, 2022 9:43 AM
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Athzewe said:
jvniper said:


I also find castrating lolicons being the optimal solution, myself. But I digress.


What trauma have lolicons done to you? Good lord!


Yeah I kinda agree with you. All the anti-loclicons int his thread has did nothing but virtue signalling so far. "HUR HUR LOLICONS/PEDOS ARE BAD! LOOK AT ME I'M A GOOD PERSON"

Kinda sad cause their whole attitude towards the issue just leads to worse results when it comes to sexual abuses to real children.
Mar 10, 2022 9:44 AM

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I honestly don't care but the fact some people put sweat and tears to criticize people for things that don't exist is pretty stupid. You don't see the same people doing the same for real life cases.
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Mar 10, 2022 9:47 AM
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I don't consider myself a lolicon. I just like petite girls. I have liked Shirabe since Summer 2013 anyway, back when I was 16.

Yeah, I used to like lolis too and consider myself a proud lolicon, but I outgrew that phase.
Mar 10, 2022 9:48 AM

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This was meant as a response to a quote, but at this point I feel like this has to be said to anyone in general:

If you think of actual children when you look at these characters, that's entirely on you. If you think lolicons are comparable to people who abuse actual children, I dare you to look in a victims eyes and say their life is equal to a damn cartoon.
Mar 10, 2022 9:49 AM

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A_G_N brought up a really good point. Lolis are not real and being into it will not influence what you're into in real life. It's the whole violent video games turn people into serial killers argument all over again.

Also there's no point in addressing or trying to argue with people over these retarded accusations. The people who accuse are often the ones who close themselves off to other's viewpoints and opinions and never listen to them because of their perfect, divine moral compass and have very little knowledge about the subject, anime in general, and the community.

We should just give up trying to argue over this topic and stop making these threads. They will never listen. These discussions never end with a victor and both sides are left confused with no conclusion or definitive answer. That guy with the YouTube channel with no name, if you say that the video your working on will finally put an end to this argument, please finish it!
Mar 10, 2022 9:49 AM

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assert dominance and jack off to loli hentai in front of them
Mar 10, 2022 9:53 AM

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FanofAction said:
This was meant as a response to a quote, but at this point I feel like this has to be said to anyone in general:

If you think of actual children when you look at these characters, that's entirely on you. If you think lolicons are comparable to people who abuse actual children, I dare you to look in a victims eyes and say their life is equal to a damn cartoon.


My ancestors have had a history with child sexual abuse within the family. I can't imagine how infuriating it would be to have some douchebag walk up to them and tell them that this stuff that's completely fictional and doesn't harm real children is equal to the trauma that they went through.
Mar 10, 2022 9:55 AM

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TheAngryNerd said:
A_G_N brought up a really good point. Lolis are not real and being into it will not influence what you're into in real life. It's the whole violent video games turn people into serial killers argument all over again.

Also there's no point in addressing or trying to argue with people over these retarded accusations. The people who accuse are often the ones who close themselves off to other's viewpoints and opinions and never listen to them because of their perfect, divine moral compass and have very little knowledge about the subject, anime in general, and the community.

We should just give up trying to argue over this topic and stop making these threads. They will never listen. These discussions never end with a victor and both sides are left confused with no conclusion or definitive answer. That guy with the YouTube channel with no name, if you say that the video your working on will finally put an end to this argument, please finish it!

Being called things on the internet is fine, it may sting but doesn't cause any real harm. However, I deeply worry when the state of opinions tilted so much to one side where people who honestly engage in these discussions are immediately shut down and even anime as a medium is banned, for the reasons I have mentioned in previous posts!
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Mar 10, 2022 9:55 AM

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It shouldn't matter what others say, unless you think they might be right.

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This needs to stop as Dragon maid fans have been called pedos before.

I've never been called a pedophile, and I'm a fan of Lolita.
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Mar 10, 2022 9:58 AM

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Lucifrost said:
It shouldn't matter what others say, unless you think they might be right.

Athzewe said:
This needs to stop as Dragon maid fans have been called pedos before.

I've never been called a pedophile, and I'm a fan of Lolita.

I congratulate you on not having encountered unpleasant confrontations!
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Mar 10, 2022 9:59 AM
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TheAngryNerd said:
FanofAction said:
This was meant as a response to a quote, but at this point I feel like this has to be said to anyone in general:

If you think of actual children when you look at these characters, that's entirely on you. If you think lolicons are comparable to people who abuse actual children, I dare you to look in a victims eyes and say their life is equal to a damn cartoon.


My ancestors have had a history with child sexual abuse within the family. I can't imagine how infuriating it would be to have some douchebag walk up to them and tell them that this stuff that's completely fictional and doesn't harm real children is equal to the trauma that they went through.


Facts don't care about feelings. More lax pornography laws showed that they can indeed reduce child sexual abuse rates.

https://phys.org/news/2010-11-legalizing-child-pornography-linked-sex.html
Mar 10, 2022 10:03 AM
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Tbh for me I was never into the age part, I found them fascinating characters that just happen to be a loli. They used to make them really intriguing around 2005-2014. I like petite chicks irl but in the late teen onward department. I used to know a lot of lolicons that were unironically into children though and that was a huge no-no for me. Another part is that at that age and duo to all the shaming surrounding this topic I wanted to change my preferences to something socially acceptable, thicker chicks, that only depressed and confused me in the long run.

One guy told me this:
"You can't quit. You may delude yourself into thinking you have changed your tastes, that you aren't attracted to lolis anymore. I promise you, the day will come when you will lay your gaze on a new loli, and you won't be able to stop your arousal. It will take hold of you stronger than you ever expected. "

he was right all along
Mar 10, 2022 10:03 AM

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This meme pic sums up my thought on the subject: it's a pandering cancer on the medium.

Mar 10, 2022 10:07 AM

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TheAngryNerd said:
FanofAction said:
This was meant as a response to a quote, but at this point I feel like this has to be said to anyone in general:

If you think of actual children when you look at these characters, that's entirely on you. If you think lolicons are comparable to people who abuse actual children, I dare you to look in a victims eyes and say their life is equal to a damn cartoon.


My ancestors have had a history with child sexual abuse within the family. I can't imagine how infuriating it would be to have some douchebag walk up to them and tell them that this stuff that's completely fictional and doesn't harm real children is equal to the trauma that they went through.

My own mom went through this. Its messed her up so bad, she's barely a functional person. It was so bad, she justified any of her bad parenting by saying "at least she never abused me".
Mar 10, 2022 10:09 AM

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jvniper said:
camay1997 said:
Not to beat a dead horse but I find hitting them with bricks until they stop is the optimal solution


I also find castrating lolicons being the optimal solution, myself. But I digress.


Funny you want to castrate lolicons but not put fans of violent series in jail.
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Mar 10, 2022 10:18 AM

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jvniper said:
Lolita fans aren't lolicons. Lolita is literally a fashion style.

I didn't mean the fashion style. I meant the book titled "Lolita."
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Mar 10, 2022 10:24 AM

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Actually, no real life human child is being involved in production of that, so there's that.
Regardless, fapping to lolis is NOTHING to brag about.
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The unfortunate truth. You may keep crying to affirm your difference, it won't change the fact that you're still crypto pedophiles. Pretty sure you'd diddle anime kids if you were isekai'd in an anime world. Even more correct if you can't watch anything if it doesn't have any loli quota.
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Do those accusations lead to an actual trial in court? No? Then who cares?

I like what I like. I mind my own business while doing so. I keep to myself because nobody (irl or otherwise) needs to know or care about my shit. No real person is getting hurt in the process... and that's it.

They're all free and within their rights to think the shit I like is weird/immoral and to avoid contact with me because of it, but that's their prerogative. At the end of the day, they're just faceless Internet randos that don't affect my life in the slightest and I need not justify myself to them; so why should I waste my valuable time engaging in mental gymnastics with nobodies, trying to convince them that they shouldn't feel what they feel or think what they think?
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Mar 10, 2022 10:47 AM
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On the one hand, don't let anyone kink shame you. On the other hand, you're still jacking off to depictions of young girls (and not even like, high school girls, which is still not considered remotely appropriate, but the younger it is, the worse it is). So don't act so self-righteous. Obviously you're not directly a pedo unless you're into real live girls, but being into cartoon girls is still outside of normal social acceptability, so you can't really be THAT surprised when people find it gross. My personal feeling is that I don't care, but I don't really understand it because children are annoying and the farthest thing away from attractive. The more childish a character is, even an adult character, the less attractive. Innocence is cute, but man I do think it's weird to be sexually turned on by that.

the point is, you're a freak, but that's okay as long as you're secure about knowing you're a freak. basically adopt "I am cringe, but I am free" as a mantra, and stop being insecure. If someone calls you a pedo, that's a them problem, not a you problem. There's no magic bullet argument that will make people think being a lolicon is acceptable because by most society's standards these days it kind of isn't. If it's what you're into, so long as you're not harming real life girls in any way, ever, you do you and ignore the shaming attempts. People think they're somehow doing an activism by kinkshaming people, lol, but it's just socially acceptable bullying, and at least on that front, I want no part of it. y'all are gross, but that's okay, everything regarding sex is gross and weird and uncomfortable. maybe this is the sort of thing that'll get me cancelled in progressive circles I'm generally otherwise a part of, but I hate hypocritical moral crusades using social justice as an excuse to bully people. but given that it IS bullying, the worst thing you can do is let that shame work. Don't get mad. Don't take the bait. Don't answer the insult. If you can't be shamed, you're immune.
Mar 10, 2022 10:53 AM

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sorcery said:

The unfortunate truth. You may keep crying to affirm your difference, it won't change the fact that you're still crypto pedophiles. Pretty sure you'd diddle anime kids if you were isekai'd in an anime world. Even more correct if you can't watch anything if it doesn't have any loli quota.

That image is hilarious, but not in the way you may have intended. I hope its a joke, because I don't see anyone claiming to want to bang babies, fictional or otherwise.
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