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Apr 12, 2010 7:08 AM
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One of the worst trend in music today the comparison between the past and present. Those music snobs just couldn't stop telling us how the 1950's, 1960's, 1970's and 1980's was better than today.

Of course it was better back then because some genres like crunkcore, emo and rap(I may wrong on this one) was not yet invented so it is unfair to compare the past and present. They just couldn't stop dreaming how good was Elvis, Beatles, Deep Purple, Eagles and Led Zeppelin in their prime.

To be honest, I'm not a fan of pop either. I just annoyed some of the music snobs comparing past to present, which is unfair.
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Apr 12, 2010 7:12 AM
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It's their own opinion. I personally preffer the music in past to the modern music, but I cannot say it is better.
In past, there were totally different genres, and you can't compare them to each other.
Can you compare Jazz with Hip Hop? It'd be like comparing chocolate over rice.
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Apr 12, 2010 7:19 AM
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Maybe it's because I don't have a taste for shit music, but I can't think of one good artist to come out of this point in time. Kanye West, Lil Wayne, Lady Gaga, The Black Eyed Peas, Justin Bieber, Ke$ha, and every other "artist" singing about getting it on in the club, getting the girl, losing a girl, partying and all that junk doesn't make good music imo. I'm not shunning anyone for what they listen to, but everything out there is basically terrible R&B, fake rap, shallow pop, generic hard rock and whiny emo trash. I'm sure there's a good artist out there somewhere, but I haven't heard em yet.
Apr 12, 2010 7:21 AM
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There is good modern music, but none of it gets any airtime. Which is why the internet is a glorious thing.

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Apr 12, 2010 7:32 AM
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Plenty of good modern music. Mostly stuff from obscure artists and from soundtracks, though.
Apr 12, 2010 7:45 AM
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I love modern music and music of the past (80s rock especially) a lot. But recently there are kids who pretend to sing/do music and they just can't.
Apr 12, 2010 7:49 AM
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Nowadays, much of mainstream music is being made out of cliche patterns just for money. Market and trends are being analyzed and hits are produced, the artist is often just a puppet doing what he's told.

But there's a lot of great modern music, I certainly listen more to the 90+ than the 'old classics'.

Apr 12, 2010 7:55 AM
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A good chunk of the old classics were made by skilled musicians who were rebelling against the classical forms of music, while incorperating some it's strengths into their own stuff. The current generation of musicians are imitators who grew up on that stuff and are at best tweaking their presentation here and there.

Heh heh, ok I don't actually know anything. I just wanted to get in on the complaining too.
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Apr 12, 2010 8:02 AM
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rTz said:
There is good modern music, but none of it gets any airtime.
This. And there were bad artists in the past too, they just aren't remembered.
Of course, there's likely more bad "artists" today, if not in percentage then at least in actual number, but that's because we have countless companies drawing in talentless fool from everywhere in order to churn out cheap generic music to earn quick money.
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New rap music is no where near as great as old rap music. Back then everyone had their own style but now everyone is the same with auto tune trash.
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I'm a music snob, and I certainly do not think this... But yes, lots of people do. They just have terrible taste in old, crappy music. Not that all old music is terrible, but the kind of old music these "old music snobs" are talking about is terrible. heh.

Yeah, this is coming from the guy who listens to indie and screamo.
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Apr 12, 2010 8:49 AM

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All music new or old each have there good and bad songs.
Apr 12, 2010 8:53 AM

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I don't really care for modern music that much. It was decent up until the mid 90's or so. Now, you don't even really need to have talent to become a singer. They can pretty much sync anything to someone's words, to where all they have to do is really just talk. Not saying that there isn't any good music being made today, but it's far and few in my opinion. I prefer a lot of the past golden oldies, you can tell the music writing and harmony was really organic and well thought out back then.
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Maybe it's because I don't have a taste for shit music, but I can't think of one good artist to come out of this point in time. Kanye West, Lil Wayne, Lady Gaga, The Black Eyed Peas, Justin Bieber, Ke$ha, and every other "artist" singing about getting it on in the club, getting the girl, losing a girl, partying and all that junk doesn't make good music imo. I'm not shunning anyone for what they listen to, but everything out there is basically terrible R&B, fake rap, shallow pop, generic hard rock and whiny emo trash. I'm sure there's a good artist out there somewhere, but I haven't heard em yet.


You do realize you just basically named the most popular pop R&B shit that have the most marketing promotion. If you don't like those their are thousands of artist and songs out there from many countries.
But even among those popular ones you can still find one or two songs that is nice to hear.

I think there good songs now and back then but today is always better because we simply have all the music of the past and now. Why will some Elvis fan complain? He can still hear his songs today.
Apr 12, 2010 9:15 AM

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Monad said:
You do realize you just basically named the most popular pop R&B shit that have the most marketing promotion.


No kidding...


Monad said:
If you don't like those their are thousands of artist and songs out there from many countries. But even among those popular ones you can still find one or two songs that is nice to hear.


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I'm sure there's a good artist out there somewhere, but I haven't heard em yet.
Apr 12, 2010 9:35 AM

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According to OP I'm a music snob. It's not my fault music today is shit.
Apr 12, 2010 9:42 AM

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Mujina said:



Monad said:
If you don't like those their are thousands of artist and songs out there from many countries. But even among those popular ones you can still find one or two songs that is nice to hear.


Mujina said:
I'm sure there's a good artist out there somewhere, but I haven't heard em yet.




Sorry but that's stupid. You don't live in the cave man age. It's 2010. What the hell does it mean you haven't heard of them yet? Is your hand too tired to type on Google? Are your feet to heavy to enter that music store you pass every now and then?
It's more like you don't want to hear them.
Apr 12, 2010 9:55 AM

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Monad said:
Sorry but that's stupid. You don't live in the cave man age. It's 2010. What the hell does it mean you haven't heard of them yet? Is your hand too tired to type on Google? Are your feet to heavy to enter that music store you pass every now and then?
It's more like you don't want to hear them.


First of all, I don't go to the music store. I steal my shit and if it sounds good, then I go buy it. Second

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I'm sure there's a good artist out there somewhere, but I haven't heard em yet.


As in I haven't heard anyone I like yet. Was that hard to figure out?
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Mujina said:
Monad said:
Sorry but that's stupid. You don't live in the cave man age. It's 2010. What the hell does it mean you haven't heard of them yet? Is your hand too tired to type on Google? Are your feet to heavy to enter that music store you pass every now and then?
It's more like you don't want to hear them.


First of all, I don't go to the music store. I steal my shit and if it sounds good, then I go buy it. Second

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I'm sure there's a good artist out there somewhere, but I haven't heard em yet.


As in I haven't heard anyone I like yet. Was that hard to figure out?

How nice of you do ignore the google comment.
And of course you haven't heard anyone you like. The fucking artist won't come and start singing by your window.

It's like me saying i never searched for anime, i don't visit sites like MAL i don't even check DVD stores but i haven't seen any good anime. Well no shit!!! The birds aren't going to start shitting anime DVD's while i walk just because i need it to fall magically in my hands.
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How nice of you do ignore the google comment.
And of course you haven't heard anyone you like. The fucking artist won't come and start singing by your window.


I do search for artists online. How else would I fucking find them other then listening to the radio? (ha) And I'm not ignoring it, I figured you'd get it when I said "As in I haven't heard anyone I like yet." FFS.
Apr 12, 2010 10:23 AM

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My dearest user, the best music was written 110 years ago, and chances are you have never heard of it.

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My dearest user, the best music was written 110 years ago, and chances are you have never heard of it.


No the best music will be made 110 years from now. DUH. Errrrrrrrrbody knows that.
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Apr 12, 2010 12:08 PM

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I gotta agree about the topic here, because I also get annoyed when people say 'today's music is shit' because they don't know wtf they are talking about. All they see is what's in the mainstream charts and of course that's going to be shit. I've listened to so much amazing mind-boggling music in the last ten years, every year tons of unique music is released but you just have to have an open mind and a genuine passion for music to find it.
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The worst trend going is the auto tune voice.
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MisterSaito said:
My dearest user, the best music was written 110 years ago, and chances are you have never heard of it.
it also used exactly 110 different words, iirc.


but really, the reason that people think that music is crap nowadays is because there's a lot more access to all kinds of music, a lot more than there was even a few years ago. nowadays, ANYONE can make a song, upload it to youtube, and get immediate exposure and fame (tay zonday anyone?) this means that a lot of music that probably would have never been approved by a record company is getting to our ears, which can be good but also bad.

anyway, a lot of the mainstream music has really gone to shit, what with talentless people getting a string of hits just because they're attractive, they have money and connections that will dress up their no talent voices, or because they sing about drugs, alcohol, and women. in cases like these, you have to just ignore the hyped up shit and look for music that still resembles music.
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I've listened to so much amazing mind-boggling music in the last ten years, every year tons of unique music is released but you just have to have an open mind and a genuine passion for music to find it.


Care to share your findings? I'm all for listening to something brand new that isn't already an established act from the past that's just putting out new stuff.
Apr 12, 2010 12:29 PM
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I guess I'm a music snob then. Well not really. I'm not a big music listener but my favourite music is from the 20th Century (or earlier, i love classical), but I look down on people who listen to music from Metro Station, Rihanna, Britney Spears, the like.
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Personally, I think that almost everything the music industry has offered us from the 90s and up, is total shit. Only a few exceptions here and there and far between. I think the music from all the previous decades but more from 50s, 60s and 70s and to a very lesser extent the 80s too, is the best so far.

I think that bands like Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin and others as such, are the best that's ever been and the numerous popular bands of today can't even hope to dream of being as good as them. Actually, I think today's music and bands, is actually the worst ever since men started recording music.

That's what I think, that is my opinion, this is what I like and dislike in music and its history. And ofcourse, I don't expect others to agree with me and I don't look down on them for liking the music of today.

I listen to what I like and I won't try to convince others to like it too, when they don't. They'll probably find it too boring or not hot or heavy enough or whatever it is that they find good in music today. Well, whatever. I keep my opinions to myself but if I asked, I will gladly say that music of today is shit.

Does that make me a snob? Yes? Well, good! :D
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I will say though, that Justin Bieber is the best thing that has happened to music in 50 or 60 years.

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I will say though, that Justin Bieber is the best thing that has happened to music in 50 or 60 years.
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Apr 12, 2010 12:51 PM

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But the music from the past was better. If I want to listen to real music then I'd log into my last.fm instead of tuning into the shitty ear rape on the radio. What's sad is that it's impossible for me to just not listen to the "current popular music" as it is played everywhere, including my job.
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Well I am noticing I'm listening to less and less music nowadays, I rarely listen to anything out side of anime, Jrock and game OSTs anymore. Disturbed is about the only band I listen too that I get excited when they put out a new CD.
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Eh, I don't like too much playing on the radio, but I do like many that aren't. I pretty much don't like rap. I have yet to find a song I like, nor do I really try, it's not a genre I really want to hear.

My main focus is in pop-punk because it's what I like. Many of the songs I listen are from 2000-2006 though as well. I have some songs from the past few years, such as the Homesick album by A Day to Remember.

Never really liked anything from the 80s and before. I couldn't get into it. The Beetles, just not the sound I like. AC/DC and the like, Most of their lead singers, in my opinion, have absolute horrid voices that make me want to kill myself.

In the end, I listen to what I think sounds good. Not what anyone else says sounds good. If I like it, I like it. If I don't, then I don't. It's as simple as that. Other people's opinions on music do not matter to me since my tastes are different.

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I think that comparing modern music to music in the past is a completely fair comparison, that's like saying you can't compare books written now to books written in the past, of course you can they're all books. If one doesn't like the genres of music made today and does like the genres made in the 60's then how is that an unfair comparison?
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Maybe it's because I don't have a taste for shit music, but I can't think of one good artist to come out of this point in time. Kanye West, Lil Wayne, Lady Gaga, The Black Eyed Peas, Justin Bieber, Ke$ha, and every other "artist" singing about getting it on in the club, getting the girl, losing a girl, partying and all that junk doesn't make good music imo. I'm not shunning anyone for what they listen to, but everything out there is basically terrible R&B, fake rap, shallow pop, generic hard rock and whiny emo trash. I'm sure there's a good artist out there somewhere, but I haven't heard em yet.
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I think that comparing modern music to music in the past is a completely fair comparison, that's like saying you can't compare books written now to books written in the past, of course you can they're all books. If one doesn't like the genres of music made today and does like the genres made in the 60's then how is that an unfair comparison?

As I said in my other post, you can. In past there were different genres, you can't compare it to todays music, unless some of the todays music, play the old ones, but it will not be the mainstream anymore, right?
In past the mainstream were Blues, Jazz and so on. They didn't have Hip Hop or Rap. How could you compare Jazz to Hip Hop?
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That's just their preference, I guess. I mostly like stuff from the 90's and early 2000's, but that's because I grew up listening to that music, and it's nice to hear some days.

Really, I don't think any decade is better than the others. I would say it's arrogant to say that earlier decades are better, but I can't really blame people that think that. There's a lot of music out there, and I wouldn't want to look through everything. I'd rather look through music I know I'll like.

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I will say though, that Justin Bieber is the best thing that has happened to music in 50 or 60 years.
THIS! I love him so much, he's really great.

But comparing music to now from the past shouldn't be done! Music will change and evolve, do this and that, people can always just stick to their music preference. Does no one any harm!:)
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Mujina said:
Maybe it's because I don't have a taste for shit music, but I can't think of one good artist to come out of this point in time. Kanye West, Lil Wayne, Lady Gaga, The Black Eyed Peas, Justin Bieber, Ke$ha, and every other "artist" singing about getting it on in the club, getting the girl, losing a girl, partying and all that junk doesn't make good music imo. I'm not shunning anyone for what they listen to, but everything out there is basically terrible R&B, fake rap, shallow pop, generic hard rock and whiny emo trash. I'm sure there's a good artist out there somewhere, but I haven't heard em yet.


Exactly.
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People have opinions and like to make comparisons.

In my opinion, there were good music back then and there also is good music now. It just depends on your preference. Personally though, I find most of the contemporary music these days to be a fucking pile of crap due to the lyrics. Singing about getting drunk, getting high...
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90% of mainstream i hear today is crap.
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Most people who claim older music is better only pay attention to mainstream artists. Obviously the crap they play on the radio isn't groundbreaking, it's on the radio because any idiot can wrap their head around it. There's some pretty amazing music out there if you're willing to give it a chance.

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People have opinions and like to make comparisons.

In my opinion, there were good music back then and there also is good music now. It just depends on your preference. Personally though, I find most of the contemporary music these days to be a fucking pile of crap due to the lyrics. Singing about getting drunk, getting high...


Funny, I feel the same way about a lot of music from the 80's. Lyrics about getting high and drunk never appealed to me.
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To be fair there are a lot of musical trends that reach a peak at a certain time, and never truly come back. Someone who REALLY likes lates 80's/early 90's chicago post-industrial is going to be pretty biased for instance, as is someone who really likes 70s-80s punk, or goth rock from the 80's
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One of the worst trend in music today the comparison between the past and present. Those music snobs just couldn't stop telling us how the 1950's, 1960's, 1970's and 1980's was better than today.

Of course it was better back then because some genres like crunkcore, emo and rap(I may wrong on this one) was not yet invented so it is unfair to compare the past and present. They just couldn't stop dreaming how good was Elvis, Beatles, Deep Purple, Eagles and Led Zeppelin in their prime.

To be honest, I'm not a fan of pop either. I just annoyed some of the music snobs comparing past to present, which is unfair.


I think mostly its just a preference and the fact to some people certain genres just sound absolutely horrible or just sound like noise to a lot of people.
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Anyone who thinks all music today sucks isn't looking hard enough. It's a given that about 80-90% of what you hear on the radio is commercial crap, it's been that way for a long time, and it's still probably going to take a while before that changes, unfortunately. Personally I believe some of the best music around came out after 2000.

Case in point:



If anyone is having trouble finding something different from the usual radio trash, here's a good place to start. Finding out who did any trailer/soundtrack music you might have liked is also a great way to discover new artists.
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No the best music will be made 110 years from now. DUH. Errrrrrrrrbody knows that.

No. The best music is the current mainstream 50 years from now because admiring classics makes one an elitist.


I feel for the OP. I enjoy listening to both old and new songs as long as they suit my preferred genres. And I admit I don't like pop music either but I don't see a need to keep on bashing them and comparing them to old music.
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In my experience, it's rare for people to like any music newer than the stuff they listened to in high school.

For people who're stuck on finding new music, in case you haven't tried this one already, give Pandora something you like and let it run for a while. You might be surprised.
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