Hanyou no Yashahime: Sengoku Otogizoushi - Ni no Shou Episode 17 Discussion

KANLen09 said:
Kagome hand-making a bow for Moroha, and Inuyasha acting like a father is probably the nicest thing ever. And Rin finally knowing why Sesshomaru had to separate her from both Towa and Setsuna took a heft amount of time to gloss through.

Akuru's involvement in this stage I can say is quite crucial as his Pinwheel helps certify that the Tree of Ages has acknowledged their presence. As such, the final conquest: destroy the Grim Comet, and Osamu Kirin himself as the foreign entity.

Ring in the final wave as Kirinmaru is dealt with everyone while the demon half-princesses prepare to time travel to the modern era. The Degenerate Age is coming, and it will require everyone's efforts, starting from Sesshomaru's mother and the Windmill of Time, and Osamu's time to bid safety for the demons in the modern era.

TheOneSin7 said:
This episode made many mistakes. First, we got a deus-ex-machina right at the start that makes the sacrifice from last episode worthless. Then we jump to every group at random, it's all over the place. No hugs. Not from Rin, not from Sango, no emotion played out, except the Hitting Hoshi Hard trope. Kirinmaru is now frightened by glowsticks. Must be Inuyashas unwashed hair that made him dodge the arrow.
But Inuyashas move was cool, hindering Kirinmaru pursuing his daughter and nieces.
Finally we get to see the same scene of Sesshoumarus mother that we saw in the last preview. That's cheap.

All in all, 2* again, the series gets worse and worse.

Elior21 said:
there are 3 things. first sesshomaru mother VA was not in the episode cast list so it was ovious she wont speak in this episode or apear for long. now for towa while i agree with you about the cliffhanger i have to say that by showing akuru touching towa in the preview made it clear he will do it. now for rin this is my opinion but rin made good decision. she wanted to hug them but knew they had important mission to do right now and let them go and futfill it

KANLen09 said:
Kagome hand-making a bow for Moroha, and Inuyasha acting like a father is probably the nicest thing ever. And Rin finally knowing why Sesshomaru had to separate her from both Towa and Setsuna took a heft amount of time to gloss through.

WatchTillTandava said:
Isn't Sesshomaru's mother still bitter at Inu no Taisho (Sesshomaru and Inuyasha's father, the dog daiyoukai and Great General of the West) for cheating on her with Izayoi (Inuyasha's mother)? Or maybe she was never bitter about the philandering specifically and viewed it as his lordly privilege or something or other in line with traditional customs similar to various human nobility and royals, but was mad over it being with a lowly human.

I ask basically because I wonder if she's still a hardcore youkai/demon supremacist and will not warmly welcome and receive her granddaughters, but discriminate against them as filthy "mudbloods" for having a human mother.

But then, she coldly received even Sesshomaru in the episode where he had to travel to the underworld to save Rin in the original series, so maybe that's just how she is and where he gets it from.

The best scenes this episode were easily with the trio of the reunited family of Inuyasha, Kagome, and Moroha. Moroha is just like Inuyasha (moreso than like Kagome, at least in the visible, obvious ways), which is interesting to see in a female form. Love Moroha.

And I don't really understand, when you think about it, why Sango is living the way she is. What I mean is, if Miroku had to do 1,000 days of training at that monastery retreat in isolation, then she is just living by herself since her children are grown older now (old enough within the context of the 1500s) to be mostly out doing their own thing working as demon slayers. And that's almost three years from the training alone Miroku would not be home and apart from her.

What I'm surprised by in a way is why she/they chose to go back to Sango's old home in that village in the first place. The village was totally exterminated as an entity and annihilated to the last man, woman, and child - barren and lifeless, thanks to Naraku ordering an attack on it to wipe out Sango's family and all opposition to his consolidation of power. It was essentially like Oradour-sur-Glane, France in WWII and completely depopulated. There were only mass graves. Whenever they went back to visit in the original series for some specific purpose, it was so still and eerie there, like a tomb.

Now it doesn't appear anyone else is living in the village besides Sango and if her children or Miroku come back/stay for however long. So I just question why she chose that route. I know she was always very family-oriented and maybe doesn't want to abandon her ancestral home and thinks it's respectful of her father/parents and all the innocents killed to stay there. But I thought almost for sure she would have moved to Kaede's village near the well after the events of Inuyasha (the series).

Edit: As an aside, the only thing that was dumb was Kirinmaru slapping the backlash wave aside like swatting a fly. They've faced many a powerful opponent who were eviscerated by it and literally reduced to smithereens. There's no real reason to believe Kirinmaru is that much stronger than most or all of them. He's that much stronger, to an extreme comical level of disparity, than, for instance, Ryūkotsusei, the dragon daiyoukai who even Inu no Taisho couldn't kill? Please. That's just a classic example of series-specific nonsense.

TheOneSin7 said:

Concerning Sesshoumarus Mother, it was spoilered that she would appear, but technically she didn't. It basically got recycled or carried over from a preview, that is what I find cheap. No effs given. The fans get stalled one further episode. And it was not that obvious, not everyone knows the VAs or pays attention.
Akaru healing Towa with whatever unexplained power that was (I mean, we got Haku und Kon now as a concept, along with demon power and holy power, but his has no explanation) is fine by itself, but it happeded right at the start of the episode! We left where Towa falls down and we start with her getting raised. Setsunas ressurrection was in the first episode of the season, but it was played out much longer, more intense and with a concept we were already familiar with, the use of Tenseiga.
On your last point: Rins part was good in itself, her struggle, letting go of her children. But in the overall story, Moroha got some hugs from Kagome. That's all. I miss some emotions from the characters. Not just sitting on a well and blushing one after another.