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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Damn, getting hit in the face by a frying pan...Satoko is savage. On the other hand, I thought the fight between Rika and Satoko was actually kinda amusing. It still had the horror element to it but also looked like popcorn entertainment. I'd say this was probably the most action packed episode in a Higurashi series. They went all out this time. |
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| Now my fear is that they're gonna rush through Satokowashi-hen...OR JUST NOT DO IT AT ALL. And indeed I was right of the anime compressing all of Satokowashi-hen in these final 2 episodes. Rika's got the shock of her life, now knowing that Satoko is behind it all, but that doesn't stop her tyranny of withholding Rika from her grasp. No matter how many loops they have to go through, Satoko will torture Rika until she gives up her dream to enter St. Lucia's and not leave Hinamizawa. DAMN Satoko is brutal TO THE MAX. Rika's comeback to stop Satoko at the Watanagashi Festival, she's had enough and returns Satoko back with instant karma. It's a relentless showdown between these 2 girls, and no one side will ever concede defeat while Eua enjoys this moment with the conflicting Hanyuu who is powerless to do anything. Hanyuu's only miracle left that is Rika cannot die, not just yet. And so it becomes Satoko with Oyashiro-sama's sword vs. Rika transforming into Hanyuu's spirit to add that supernatural feeling to finish the chapter of despair and reignite hope. This is a fight to the death in many parallel loops. Is there any hope left for the protagonist and antagonist of this wild Sotsu chapter? |
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Si1verR0se said: There's no redemption for this shitfest So you telling me that Mion, Keichi and Rena just stand still while Satoko shot Rika then herself and the didn't even tried to do something? Not to mention "Rika vs Satoko compilation" that was straight up stupid as fuck cringe... bruh, whoever write and direct this are braindead mf If you're telling me you expected them to actually do something when they see Satoko has a gun it's painfully obvious that you don't understand basic human nature. It took about 5 seconds from the gun to the shot, young teenagers wouldn't do anything because they'd be too shocked, same with most adults too. |
| Best Higu episode all time for me so far. First half was extremely hard to watch. Especially Rika using the hot skillet and the fork to kill Rika out of nowhere. There’s been some brutal shit in Higurashi but that’s up there for me. Second half I didn’t know if I was watching DBZ or what lmao but it was awesome. Loved the Satoko and Rika fight once they took on goddess forms. So much emotion and pain on both sides was evident. Next week’s finale is gonna be insane, idk how either of them will bring themselves to kill the other |
Marinate1016Sep 23, 2021 8:59 AM
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| This episode was fucking amazing, holy shit. Catharsis at its finest, slow burn af build up so far, and we exploded in epic proportions in this episode! Eua just changing scenarios and giving them powers as the fight progressed, I must agree with her, this was GREAT ENTERTAINMENT! So that's where all the REAL budget went after all. We got a fucking Dragon Ball Z battle in Higurashi, this was way more fun than it has any right to be. The one thing I hate in this ep is that it ends lol Now THIS is my bombastic Ryukishi "bullshit but fantastic" action packed finale I know and love from WTC climaxes. It makes sense in context (quite literal godlike powers at play), but I rather not consider it at all haha Brutally epic battle shounen episode, likely the best showdown I've seen in this season somehow, and it's not even the genre for that. My enjoyment alone made this 5/5 to me. Let the finale be just as awesome please. |
DanpmssSep 23, 2021 9:13 AM
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| Might be the funniest episode of the season This is turning into a parody. This is not meant to be taken serious, right? I'll say that the animation was top notch in this episode. |
| This is so stupid it's actually good. |
| holy fuck, this episode was bad. i thought the previous episodes were fine at worst but damn. going to lower that 7/10 score i had as we speak. satoko in this episode is just so... passione why did you do this edit: i said that before they fought with their goddess forms... what even is this show at this point? am i watching a parody or something?? |
luminalitySep 23, 2021 9:07 AM
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| This is the best Sotsu episode so far. They went all out for trying to kill each other in this episode. Let's goooooooo!!!!!!!! Rika. It's time for you to fight back. |
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| Entertaining, but still conflicted about it. Seeing Rika/Satoko get what she deserved was the best feeling ever. This still feels like a parody of what Sotsu was expected to be. Yeah, this is for sure going to end next ep. There is no chance this is going to drag out any longer. ...and people thought Kira was a feverdream. What the hell happened to Ryuukishi, was he on drugs? Did Passione Drug him? Sad thing is. Leaker leaked this some time ago. Literally this. People didnt believe it because of how dumb it is. Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
KuniiSep 23, 2021 2:04 PM
| Finally the "It's so bad it becomes good" territory. So far it has been just a turd. |
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| All the recaps, all the build-up, and all the loops. This was certainly a very cool pay-off with a bunch of references and excitement. It was quite enjoyable watching such a simple problem explosively blow up like this over the course of the show, due to supernatural involvement.... Maybe the club will be able to talk them down. If they get a chance before they go to another loop that is. |
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Erotaku_ said: Might be the funniest episode of the season This is turning into a parody. This is not meant to be taken serious, right? I'll say that the animation was top notch in this episode. I had so many good laughs and I think it's impossible (unless you're a diehard stan for whatever reason) to take this series seriously at this point. It's like someone's fanfiction come to life with the lack of development. I was entertained but I'm not sure if it was for all the right reasons. If you told me in 2007 that we'd be seeing Super Saiyan Satoko & Rika battle, I would've thought you were smoking crack. The animation was mostly good but I kinda feel like this style strips emotional intensity from any of the characters expressions so it's even easier to view this as a parody |
Erotaku_ said: Might be the funniest episode of the season This is turning into a parody. This is not meant to be taken serious, right? I'll say that the animation was top notch in this episode. The fact that I had to wait 3 months for this is insulting lmao |
| So, ah, Satoko will start assaulting Rika at random times with no real trigger...why did it take so long in one of them? Then Rika will remember to retaliate like 3 years later? Are they even trying now? I am sure someone will jump in to say "It is symbolism" and I would agree if spectators didnt react to them. And even if it is it is still stupid. Oh yes Satoko and Rika are fighting on a sacred ritual's stage and no adult interferes. The two kids are trapped in a fire and literally everyone except the relevant friends are standing still like statues. We at least got the chair scene.....and Satoko took it like a WWE superstar. WTF is this. Also FUCK THE SUBS, for making it seem like Rika doesnt know what happened in Lucia. So the big fight was just a cat fight with no real progress or substance, just gore , for more than half of the episode. And Satoko can just lift and launch 27 kg drums or sent a human flying with the sword because......... Wow wow wow Amazing. Literally DBZ at the end. THIS IS THE HIGURASHI I KNEW. AMAZING WORK PASSIONE AND RYUKISHI!!! Finally no recaps but holy fuck I should have lowered my expectations even more. Old time fans must be trolling at this point if they claim that this was anything better than bad. |
spiderexpert said: Well, that was a total disgrace for the franchise. Magical girl transformations, nonsensical reality switching, super brittle sword surviving a fall down hundreds of steps, same sword randomly being placed outside a jail cell with both girls inside, Satoko never once dying first (thus releasing Rika from her), etc. All that nonsense may have been forgiven if not for the ultimate sin, making Rika attached to her torturer for no reason; I can see why Satoko would be attached to this Rika, since she is the only Rika she ever knew, but Rika knew innumerable Satokos before this one, she should have no issue killing her and moving on to a world with an uncorrupted Satoko. I was optimistic for a good payoff, but this is totally unacceptable. You forgot that Ryuukishi 'Protect the Children' 07 Made Teppei - Redeemed a child abuser and a possible Rapist. Satoko - Child who get abused, makes uo abuse to screw and manipulate others. Child abuse is fake bros! |
Chargecoulomb said: Entertaining, but still conflicted about it. Seeing Rika/Satoko get what she deserved was the best feeling ever. This still feels like a parody of what Sotsu was expected to be. Yeah, this is for sure going to end next ep. There is no chance this is going to drag out any longer. ...and people thought Kira was a feverdream. What the hell happened to Ryuukishi, was he on drugs? Did Passione Drug him? Sad thing is. Leaker leaked this some time ago. Literally this. People didnt believe it because of how dumb it is. No, god, please. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! If it ends like this, Ryukishi is confirmed to be braindead spiderexpert said: Well, that was a total disgrace for the franchise. Magical girl transformations, nonsensical reality switching, super brittle sword surviving a fall down hundreds of steps, same sword randomly being placed outside a jail cell with both girls inside, Satoko never once dying first (thus releasing Rika from her), etc. All that nonsense may have been forgiven if not for the ultimate sin, making Rika attached to her torturer for no reason; I can see why Satoko would be attached to this Rika, since she is the only Rika she ever knew, but Rika knew innumerable Satokos before this one, she should have no issue killing her and moving on to a world with an uncorrupted Satoko. I was optimistic for a good payoff, but this is totally unacceptable. Yeah, tell me about fucked up final Danpmss said: This episode was fucking amazing, holy shit. Catharsis at its finest, slow burn af build up so far, and we exploded in epic proportions in this episode! Eua just changing scenarios and giving them powers as the fight progressed, I must agree with her, this was GREAT ENTERTAINMENT! So that's where all the REAL budget went after all. We got a fucking Dragon Ball Z battle in Higurashi, this was way more fun than it has any right to be. The one thing I hate in this ep is that it ends lol Now THIS is my bombastic Ryukishi "bullshit but fantastic" action packed finale I know and love from WTC climaxes. It makes sense in context (quite literal godlike powers at play), but I rather not consider it at all haha Brutally epic battle shounen episode, likely the best showdown I've seen in this season somehow, and it's not even the genre for that. My enjoyment alone made this 5/5 to me. Let the finale be just as awesome please. Still licking Ryukishi's boots as always, I see. Mind tell me why when Rika cut Satoko's throat with sword shard Satoko didn't die? Or why both Satoko and Rika didn't even care when they start jumping across the fragments right in the middle of fight? Or why Keichi, Rena and Mion never did anything?(yeah, let's say that in the classroom they were shocked COPIUM, but wtf was on Watanagashi?) Also Satoko suddenly have a strenght of a Hulk to throw big fucking drm easily. Or why there was such a strong emphasis on Keichi, Rena, Mion and Shion in both opening and Sotsu cover, but so far they did NOTHING AT ALL? Why the fuck Rika suddenly got into the refrigerator? Wtf was all that DBZ nonsense? Come on, tell me, oh great genius that see the depth in this masterpieaceofshit Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
KuniiSep 24, 2021 4:52 AM
| This didn't feel like a Higurashi episode at all. |
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This show completely breaks down when you apply the most basic dilluted version common sense to it, best not to think about it. Youll get a headache. |
| Is this a parody, or just a good old series assassination? Probably both. |
Si1verR0se said: Danpmss said: This episode was fucking amazing, holy shit. Catharsis at its finest, slow burn af build up so far, and we exploded in epic proportions in this episode! Eua just changing scenarios and giving them powers as the fight progressed, I must agree with her, this was GREAT ENTERTAINMENT! So that's where all the REAL budget went after all. We got a fucking Dragon Ball Z battle in Higurashi, this was way more fun than it has any right to be. The one thing I hate in this ep is that it ends lol Now THIS is my bombastic Ryukishi "bullshit but fantastic" action packed finale I know and love from WTC climaxes. It makes sense in context (quite literal godlike powers at play), but I rather not consider it at all haha Brutally epic battle shounen episode, likely the best showdown I've seen in this season somehow, and it's not even the genre for that. My enjoyment alone made this 5/5 to me. Let the finale be just as awesome please. Still licking Ryukishi's boots as always, I see. Mind tell me why when Rika cut Satoko's throat with sword shard Satoko didn't die? Or why both Satoko and Rika didn't even care when they start jumping across the fragments right in the middle of fight? Or why Keichi, Rena and Mion never did anything?(yeah, let's say that in the classroom they were shocked COPIUM, but wtf was on Watanagashi?) Also Satoko suddenly have a strenght of a Hulk to throw big fucking drm easily. Or why there was such a strong emphasis on Keichi, Rena, Mion and Shion in both opening and Sotsu cover, but so far they did NOTHING AT ALL? Why the fuck Rika suddenly got into the refrigerator? Wtf was all that DBZ nonsense? Come on, tell me, oh great genius that see the depth in this masterpieaceofshit That's literally how every single Ryukishi climax go in WTC. Bombastic shounen battle bullshit that makes sense within a very specific context (involving supernatural stuff), if you dislike it, you might as well hate every single finale he wrote. Too bad that, following the pattern, the final episode must be more grounded in reality, this was top entertainment even compared to the batshit crazy stuff in Umineko. |
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| I'm not sure if I should like it, or hate it. Imagine if they just talked before all this. Just had a freaking talk, and we would've avoided this mess. Kinda funny when they recreated scenes from earlier seasons - but still, I'm at a loss for words. |
| The one way I never expected this series to end was in a magical girl fight and yet here we are. God knows what episode 15 has in store for us. |
Danpmss said: Si1verR0se said: Still licking Ryukishi's boots as always, I see. Mind tell me why when Rika cut Satoko's throat with sword shard Satoko didn't die? Or why both Satoko and Rika didn't even care when they start jumping across the fragments right in the middle of fight? Or why Keichi, Rena and Mion never did anything?(yeah, let's say that in the classroom they were shocked COPIUM, but wtf was on Watanagashi?) Also Satoko suddenly have a strenght of a Hulk to throw big fucking drm easily. Or why there was such a strong emphasis on Keichi, Rena, Mion and Shion in both opening and Sotsu cover, but so far they did NOTHING AT ALL? Why the fuck Rika suddenly got into the refrigerator? Wtf was all that DBZ nonsense? Come on, tell me, oh great genius that see the depth in this masterpieaceofshit That's literally how every single Ryukishi climax go in WTC. Bombastic shounen battle bullshit that makes sense within a very specific context (involving supernatural stuff), if you dislike it, you might as well hate every single finale he wrote. Too bad, following the pattern, the final episode must be more grounded in reality, this was top entertainment even compared to the batshit crazy stuff in Umineko. They make sense within their own rules though. You didnt see people firing lasers in Rose gun days. Ill just add that when this was leaked in detail, right down to magic costumes. Literally no one believed it because of how bullshit it was. I was wrong to doubt you Leaker Sama. You warned us. |
Chargecoulomb said: Danpmss said: That's literally how every single Ryukishi climax go in WTC. Bombastic shounen battle bullshit that makes sense within a very specific context (involving supernatural stuff), if you dislike it, you might as well hate every single finale he wrote. Too bad, following the pattern, the final episode must be more grounded in reality, this was top entertainment even compared to the batshit crazy stuff in Umineko. They make sense within their own rules though. You didnt see people firing lasers in Rose gun days. Ill just add that when this was leaked. Literally no one believed it because of how bullshit it was. I was wrong to doubt you Leaker Sama. This also makes sense within context though? There are literal reality manipulating Goddesses giving them powers from a metaworld and incorporating them in their clothes, for heaven's sake. |
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| Oh it was even worse than I thought lol. Danpmss said: Yes I clearly remember the supernatural, bombastic, DBZ fights in Higurashi.Si1verR0se said: Still licking Ryukishi's boots as always, I see. Mind tell me why when Rika cut Satoko's throat with sword shard Satoko didn't die? Or why both Satoko and Rika didn't even care when they start jumping across the fragments right in the middle of fight? Or why Keichi, Rena and Mion never did anything?(yeah, let's say that in the classroom they were shocked COPIUM, but wtf was on Watanagashi?) Also Satoko suddenly have a strenght of a Hulk to throw big fucking drm easily. Or why there was such a strong emphasis on Keichi, Rena, Mion and Shion in both opening and Sotsu cover, but so far they did NOTHING AT ALL? Why the fuck Rika suddenly got into the refrigerator? Wtf was all that DBZ nonsense? Come on, tell me, oh great genius that see the depth in this masterpieaceofshit That's literally how every single Ryukishi climax go in WTC. Bombastic shounen battle bullshit that makes sense within a very specific context (involving supernatural stuff), if you dislike it, you might as well hate every single finale he wrote. Too bad that, following the pattern, the final episode must be more grounded in reality, this was top entertainment even compared to the batshit crazy stuff in Umineko. You know, comparing Home Alone bullshit to this isnt even stretching things anymore. You break the fabric of fucking reality. |
Danpmss said: Chargecoulomb said: They make sense within their own rules though. You didnt see people firing lasers in Rose gun days. Ill just add that when this was leaked. Literally no one believed it because of how bullshit it was. I was wrong to doubt you Leaker Sama. This also makes sense within context though? There are literal reality manipulating Goddesses giving them powers from a metaworld and incorporating them in their clothes, for heaven's sake. Sure you could say that, but does it fit in with Higurashi? Kira also had a inuniverse reason for the magical girl stuff. Didnt make it any more less stupid right? |
| of all the possibilities i was hoping for.. this was the "i never even thought it would come to like this" route... . Not an avid Higurashi watcher infact this is my first anime in the series.. so i have no idea if this is supposed to be normal.. but holy hell.. . anyways.. first half was brutal.. Satoko freaking massacring Rika with variety of things like a burning Pan.. and it was freaking painful to imagine that.. |
Chargecoulomb said: Danpmss said: This also makes sense within context though? There are literal reality manipulating Goddesses giving them powers from a metaworld and incorporating them in their clothes, for heaven's sake. Sure you could say that, but does it fit in with Higurashi? Kira also had a inuniverse reason for the magical girl stuff. Didnt make it any more less stupid right? At least Kira was intentional comedy. This... I don't even know |
ssjokg said: Oh it was even worse than I thought lol. Danpmss said: Yes I clearly remember the supernatural, bombastic, DBZ fights in Higurashi.That's literally how every single Ryukishi climax go in WTC. Bombastic shounen battle bullshit that makes sense within a very specific context (involving supernatural stuff), if you dislike it, you might as well hate every single finale he wrote. Too bad that, following the pattern, the final episode must be more grounded in reality, this was top entertainment even compared to the batshit crazy stuff in Umineko. You know, comparing Home Alone bullshit to this isnt even stretching things anymore. You break the fabric of fucking reality. Hanyuu literally ex machina-ed her way through Matsuribayashi transferring years of martial arts experience from another world from Hima Akasaka to Matsuri Akasaka for him to proceed kicking ass, with no foreshadowing whatsoever, gain ZA WARUDO powers channeling with Rika with no foreshadowing whatsoever in order for her to avoid Takano's gunshooting. This was just an Umineko level bullshit shounen battle finale. It makes sense in the context, and it's awesome BECAUSE it is pure undistilled shounen battle goodness. If you dislike this, I guess you hated Umi EP8 A LOT lol The Ryukishi finales are always bombastic absurd fun that usually go way over-the-top to their standards, no matter how grounded. If you disliked it, your loss, this was the most Ryukishi this show went in the whole run. |
DanpmssSep 23, 2021 9:54 AM
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| there are no words to describe how much i hated this. if you like it, good for you, you're entitled to your opinion, but this is honestly so bad it's making me dislike higurashi as a whole |
Chargecoulomb said: Danpmss said: This also makes sense within context though? There are literal reality manipulating Goddesses giving them powers from a metaworld and incorporating them in their clothes, for heaven's sake. Sure you could say that, but does it fit in with Higurashi? Kira also had a inuniverse reason for the magical girl stuff. Didnt make it any more less stupid right? It fits Higurashi quite well, Tsumihoroboshi tribute is there to reminds us how much he likes his hot blooded shounen climaxes no matter how ridiculous they may go (like K1 with a bat battling Rena with a cleaver on the school's roof after a sequence of serious business grounded arcs) LOL With what Newgurashi established for itself so far, the escalation is quite proportional. Leaning more towards Umineko in this case. |
DanpmssSep 23, 2021 9:56 AM
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| Okay guys, can we just pretend that higurashi Gou/Sotsu doesn't exist now? I never thought I would miss Studio deen. |
Danpmss said: ssjokg said: Oh it was even worse than I thought lol. Yes I clearly remember the supernatural, bombastic, DBZ fights in Higurashi. You know, comparing Home Alone bullshit to this isnt even stretching things anymore. You break the fabric of fucking reality. Hanyuu literally ex machina-ed her way through Matsuribayashi transferring years of martial arts experience from another world from Hima Akasaka to Matsuri Akasaka for him to proceed kicking ass, with no foreshadowing whatsoever, gain ZA WARUDO powers channeling with Rika with no foreshadowing whatsoever in order for her to avoid Takano's gunshotting. This was just an Umineko level bullshit shounen battle finale. It makes sense in the context, and it's awesome BECAUSE it is pure undistilled shounen battle goodness. If you dislike this, I guess you hated Umi EP8 A LOT lol The Ryukishi finales are always bombastic absurd fun that usually go way over-the-top to their standards, no matter how grounded. If you disliked it, your loss, this was the most Ryukishi this show went in the whole run. Youre missing thw point Ep 8s big Battles come with a huge buildup to said Battle. Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
KuniiSep 23, 2021 2:08 PM
| I'd actually been mostly enjoying Sotsu up to this point. Sure, the 'recap from Satoko's POV' arcs probably could have been cut down, but it was interesting to see how she pulled everything off. This, though... what the fuck did I just watch. The way Rika found out that Satoko was the mastermind behind everything was completely dissatisfying - perhaps it would've been better if she slowly put together some clues left behind over previous loops until she realised what was going on? The reveal as it was here was awful - Satoko could have totally explained it away if she didn't just go for the nuclear option and start shooting. She's been established to be intelligent, so this sudden-onset stupidity just makes no sense. I could almost excuse the whole battle between loops section, too. I don't mind it in concept - Rika's first couple of deaths after the reveal were decent, and there were some interesting transitions between loops, but it was mostly nonsensical, especially given that both seemingly had superhuman strength. I'm not even talking about the drum - the scene where Satoko sent Rika flying by hitting her with her backpack was equally ludicrous. The worst has to be when they went full DBZ, flew around fighting in their Super Satoko forms, and Rika re-enacted the fridge scene from Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Who thought this was a good idea? |
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