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Aug 7, 2021 6:03 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Back at it with the flashbacks xD Welp, it has to be. Aside from that, there were some questionable anime original fights and repetitive shouting. Yeah, this episode was definitely not good. I thought they pushed it a bit too far with the display of Apoo's ability. They did Luffy and Zoro dirty with that, even if it wasn't quite Batman tier. A shame, I was actually looking forward to that scene.

At least the Kid part was pretty dopeand the thighs of WW's underling Totally forgot they're using CGI for his ability. It looked good tho and gave us a little taste of what we can expect in the future.

PS: Imagine one of these Gifter NPC's as Tobi Roppo.

Dunno what people are one about. Episode had some magnificent shots



And here the one where most effort was put in



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Aug 7, 2021 6:59 PM
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hope they don't start putting in fillers or go over the top with lower quality anime original stuff again...
Aug 7, 2021 7:00 PM
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We're finally back to the original outfit (Which is understandable cause it would kinda suck if they battled kaido with the same outfit as those small fries)

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Aug 7, 2021 7:04 PM
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I thought it was pretty good.
Aug 7, 2021 7:29 PM
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I thought the cgi stuck out more than episode 978 did but it's not bad by any means. It was actually pretty decent. That kid moment at the end was probably the highlight for me tbh

It's no surprise that apoo was really strong




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Aug 7, 2021 7:35 PM
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Half of the episode was close ups from Kid's face LOL. Aside from that, some action scenes. They were kinda okay. Kinda disappointed but pretty sure it's worth it. They're already struggling against Apoo and one of the Tobi members will be joining the battle in the next episode. This will be a bit hard.

The thighs shot was amazing.

The CGI was pretty good for Kid's ability. Looking forward for more Kid scenes. It's always so satisfying xD

Overall an okay-good episode.


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Aug 7, 2021 7:42 PM
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It's cool to see Apoo's ability again after such a long time but Apoo finally got what he deserved for selling out Kid on Kaido. First time that Luffy and Zoro saw Apoo's fighting music so it's no surprise that both of them had no idea how to defend themselves against that ability. Kid's Punk Gibson smash on Apoo was dope. But there's been lots of close ups of Kid's face in this episode though. xD

Still a very slow episode but I've already gotten used to this pacing since One Piece is always the anime I'm hyped at the most every week, so... :P
Aug 7, 2021 7:42 PM
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Is the Tama flashback going to be the new Rebecca flashback? Hope they don't do this with Oden either, the Punk Gibson was really well done, other than that, I'm just waiting for a certain moment that will occur soon, manga readers you know what I'm talking about
Aug 7, 2021 7:51 PM
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This one was all about closeup shots, I was feeling this episode until that Kaido flashback killed the momentum and Punk Gibson was a little disappointing because of how drawn out it was.
Aug 7, 2021 7:52 PM
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This feels like a good time to he a Kid fan. Always loved his design the most out of the Sabaody Supernovas, here's hoping there's more of that.
Aug 7, 2021 8:17 PM
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I have two things I like to address with everyone.

1. The pacing may not be great, but I think that the extra fillers and flashbacks in each episode are a good idea, think about it, there have been many breaks for the manga, even with the Olympics, so if they catch up to each other, then it'll be problematic.

2. The CGI for Kidd's attack is understandable as well. I'm no animator, but I can tell that doing the 2D movement for the arm looks difficult to draw, and it's a bunch of metallic parts, so it would take a long time to draw each of them, and this is Toei, it's CGI isn't that bad.

Overall, it might have been a slow episode, I still enjoyed it, and we should appreciate how amazing the Wano arc still is.
Aug 7, 2021 8:25 PM

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Again pretty flashback heavy, but I can't be the only one who loves that moment where Kaido leaped down from an sky island, landed exactly where Kid, Killer, Apoo and Hawkins were and shocked everyone of them with his appearance which was also the moment he got introduced to us for the first time. At least for me it was a very memorable scene.

Besides from that the little fights against the beast pirates didn't seem to be challenging at all for Luffy and Zoro but Apoo on the other hand definitely gave them a hard time. I mean how do you even defend yourself against music lol? It's not like you're Kizaru back at Sabaody and just don't care about it.

Highlight was easily Kids attack at the end. A little bit of CGI and a lot of close ups of Kids face but it was fine and looked good. I really hope we get to see a lot more of Kid. He's definitely one of the characters we know the least about. And his Punkk Gibson is honestly terrifying. Apoo got stomped.

Next episode one of the numbers will intervene? Looking forward to next week!

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Aug 7, 2021 8:33 PM

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I don't really mind the flashback much as it has been some time since it happened, but I guess there's more to take away from this that we can see now, Apoo probably lured Kid into Kaido's trap. Luffy and Zoro seem to be getting beaten up by Apoo with his fighting music, I don't understand it much, but that last punch for Kid was worth it!

Gotta say those close up shots were actually kind of padding the episode out, but that's nothing new.
Aug 7, 2021 8:43 PM
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The episode was not one piece like. Kid’s smile looks so stupid, black maria is not beautiful. And nothing really happened
Aug 7, 2021 8:53 PM
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They adapted 9 chapters for this episode

yep this episode was pretty bad
Aug 7, 2021 9:02 PM

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Kidd's Gibson was cool, he kicked Apoo's ass.
Aug 7, 2021 9:26 PM
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This may be the worst animated one piece episode. The music was quiet or out of place which made tense scenes awkward, the pacing was off which made things anticlimactic, and the editing was weird.

It's the small things like killer not laughing anymore. The lip syncing with the voices is way off sometimes, and the voice acting itself is nonchalant which may be the pacing and music's fault.

And what's with all the still frames!?!? I thought Toei was an ANIMATION studio. I wouldn't be mad if this was some low budget passion project, but this is FUCKING ONE PIECE. The Toei staff is probably way overworked so i wont blame them, but come on wtf is this episode!?!! Fans do not settle for this garbage.

Anyone who reads this will understand if I show it to you so let me give you some timestamps:

4:30 Zoro stiff walk (not that bad)
4:53 wtf is that slide show edit
4:57 the same slide "animation"
5:36 hilarious still frame
6:20 wtf is this running? Zoro
7:30 what is this shaky cam and why do they keep doing it?
8:11 WTF is this run? Zoro?!?!!
14:51 garbage still frame and Luffy is LITERALLY skipping frames. He is running at 1 FPS
14:59 Luffy running at 2 FPS, again
15:13 wtf I'm lost for words how bad that sequence was. And the still frame of Zoro right after is just icing
15:27 LOOK AT THEIR FACES AND THE GUY WITH WINGS LOOKS SO BAD
16:49 still frame and some of the background people are not even looking in the right direction
17:22 This may be THE WORST still frame in the history of One Piece. What is their arms doing? Why are they making that face? And why are they in weird positions?
17:25 Why the fuck... does Queen face look like that?
17:46 Zoro is running at 1 FPS and also another fucking still frame!!
17:48 This is just getting ridiculous at this point. Slide show animation
17:52 music is out of place, pacing is ass and the scene is just fucking awkward and weirdly edited.
19:10-19:22 come on I'm about to cry. what is this scene? Why did you cut to randoms having a party with trash audio
19:26 why is there a still frame of kid's back for 5 seconds? And I want you to notice how quiet it is
20:07 why TF did apoo just fly into the air
20:29 the static edit that will be remembered in one piece
21:44 still frame on kid for 4 seconds

21:54 oh my god this is the worst animated one piece episode
22:00 I am shocked, lost for words
To Be Continued...

ObiJakobeAug 7, 2021 10:42 PM
Aug 7, 2021 9:39 PM
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this episode is so boring and badddd
Aug 7, 2021 9:48 PM

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this episode was so bad that when Kid used his magnetism, the whole episode was having static
Aug 7, 2021 9:52 PM
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Yepp i think we're keep going on with low quality episodes, in my opinion fillers would be much better and then make high quality Canon episodes again.
Aug 7, 2021 10:19 PM

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And here I thought last week's episode was bad lol

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Aug 7, 2021 10:41 PM

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Yeah I guess the CGI scenes for the Kids attack were fine but you know this is ONe piece. Do don't expect high tear levels of Mamoru Oshi type animation with with cybernetics.

Umm how ever this episode clearly lacked the budget but to be honest its not a high moment in the manga either so the studio is probably saving their big budget for the stuff to come.



Aug 7, 2021 11:19 PM

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It seems Toei will completely ruin the Wano arc. Thank God I read the manga prior to watching this. Today's episode may be the worst in the entire series.
Aug 7, 2021 11:55 PM
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Animation is fine here. More Kid.
Aug 8, 2021 1:08 AM
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finally someone shut up apoo and his ugly mug.
Next is queen i hope.
Aug 8, 2021 1:26 AM
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Up untill this episode I thought eudtass Kidd was really weak but damm!! The character is badass ...just waiting for the main fight hope they won't dragg the arc cause it's really getting intersting..
Aug 8, 2021 2:10 AM
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barely anything happened but kid punching apoo was cool
Aug 8, 2021 2:25 AM

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I remember some Manga readers complaining about this fight with Luffy & Zoro vs Apoo back when this happend in the Manga
The Episode was cool
Aug 8, 2021 2:59 AM

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Lol what a stupid episode. Didn't like the direction this time around
This anime shit is addictive
Aug 8, 2021 3:17 AM

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The animation was fine, the direction/music placement was completely off though and Killer not laughing was bad.

Pacing shouldn't even be mentioned at this point since it's been like this since forever with only a few exceptions.
Aug 8, 2021 4:24 AM

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Apoo is more dangerous than I gave him credit for.

Kidd attacking Apoo was satisfying. I don't blame Kidd for being pissed off at him.
Aug 8, 2021 5:16 AM

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One of Wano’s worst episode easily.
Aug 8, 2021 5:23 AM

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G_Spark233 said:
Apoo is more dangerous than I gave him credit for.

Kidd attacking Apoo was satisfying. I don't blame Kidd for being pissed off at him.


The anime has made him seem way stronger than he actually is.

This is bat guy with arrows all over again.
Aug 8, 2021 8:10 AM
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The anime is terrible at the moment (apart from episode 982), i hate to say it. Very poorly directed. At least the art is kinda ok. It just feels so boring, especially in comparison to whole cake island, although the pacing was similarly bad.
Aug 8, 2021 12:29 PM
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The animation was just so off this episode. For some reason, I don't know if its because of the awful pacing but I just feel disconnected from the events and characters, actions are too slow, to many pauses etc.
Aug 8, 2021 12:33 PM
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Bruh...so after that rebecca flash back stuff we now have to see this tama flashback,seriously toei? Why do Toei do that? We’ve seen the O-Tama flashback enough, entrenched inequality - the haves have way more than they need while the have nots starve and suffer. we get it already they can stop reminding us.
Aug 8, 2021 12:49 PM
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Luffy and Zoro both agreed that causing a ruckus was inevitable once Red Bean Soup was involved. Eventually that led to the two of them taking off their disguises and rushing straight to Kaido so that Luffy can go in and kick his ass along with Big Mom's all by himself, like a badass. I know I've made that statement many times, but I simply know that it'll come to pass because The Fifth Emperor has such badassery. They run into Scratchmen Apoo who can apparently use music to damage them? NANI??!??!?!??!?!? IS THERE ANY COUNTER TO THIS?!?!?!?!?!

Speaking of Apoo, apparently Kid has a grudge against him because he betrayed him and sold out to Kaido. Kid is reminded of this after hearing his voice, gathers up a crap ton of metal on his right arm, and uses his Punk Gibson to slam Apoo's face.
Apparently Sanji will be getting involved in the next episosde with some sort of temptation.

I can't wait to see even more badassery in One Piece, the greatest fictional work in existence!
Aug 8, 2021 1:20 PM

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It seems Toei will completely ruin the Wano arc. Thank God I read the manga prior to watching this. Today's episode may be the worst in the entire series.


See I don't understand how people can sit here and make these claims against wano arc. The wano arc has been amazing in the anime. TOEI has fleshed out specific parts of the story that were lacking in the manga and we have been getting tripple AAA budget animation in the story segments that matter. Sure just like any arc there is always going to be some episodes here and there that are lower quality, but my god that does not discredit the whole entire arc as being something TOEI is ruining. I mean how can you lie to your self, either that or your just venting your frustration because of this ONE episode. But look at the BIGGER picture. How has Toei being Handling wano as a WHOLE??

Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post.

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G_Spark233 said:
Apoo is more dangerous than I gave him credit for.

Kidd attacking Apoo was satisfying. I don't blame Kidd for being pissed off at him.


The anime has made him seem way stronger than he actually is.

This is bat guy with arrows all over again.



Bro what? lol don't compare Bat guy one of the fodder peons of Kaido's crew to the "worst generation". Jeese thats not fair. You have no idea how ODA is developing Scartch Man apoo but put some respect on his name. He is along side the group of characters in one piece that will probably make it to laughtale.

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Aug 8, 2021 2:02 PM

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I thought there would be more music from apoo instead of just noises
Aug 8, 2021 2:03 PM
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If Scratchman Apoo gets finished here, I would be pretty diasappointed in Oda. Neither were we explained how Apoo's power works, nor was Kid's punching Apoo's lights out coherent with what was going on the whole episode, like Apoo took Kid's punch to the face and did nothing to prevent it. Bullshit writing.
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cchigu said:
If Scratchman Apoo gets finished here, I would be pretty diasappointed in Oda. Neither were we explained how Apoo's power works, nor was Kid's punching Apoo's lights out coherent with what was going on the whole episode, like Apoo took Kid's punch to the face and did nothing to prevent it. Bullshit writing.


First of all, it would be understandbale if he did get instantly clapped given Kid's Punk Gibson. Secondly, if you saw the preview, you would see that he was still standing and kicking.
Aug 8, 2021 4:04 PM
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Loved that CGI Punk Gibson attack at the end of the episode, that was exquisite. 😩 Even more awesome with Namikawa Daisuke laughing like a maniac.

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This feels like a good time to he a Kid fan. Always loved his design the most out of the Sabaody Supernovas, here's hoping there's more of that.


Preach! 🍻
Aug 8, 2021 5:02 PM
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Luffy and zoro starting the attack against kaido, Kid revealed his identity in front of the staff is he didn't care too much about that that's what I like about Kid.
Aug 8, 2021 5:28 PM
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Glad appoo got absolutely smashed, good feels
Aug 8, 2021 5:34 PM
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The production quality has been awful for the past few episodes.
This could be a budget or covid issue, but I'm not aware of the reason and that kinda hurts.
Visually,
We got cheap close up scenes most of the episode, and it caused a lack of sense of the space and movements of the characters,
Where was queen standing?how come he noticed the attack until later than apo,
How kid entered the staircase? Where was it?where luffy and zoro were running toward? I had no idea!
CGI scenes did not blend in, and the music theme feels inappropriate most of the time.
For instance in this episode music could played a more important role instead of being a confused noise in the background.
I'm disappointed but hopping the issues get resolved in the near future.
Wano arc started perfectly and now it feels like another anime.
Aug 8, 2021 5:46 PM
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Anime_Guy219 said:
It seems Toei will completely ruin the Wano arc. Thank God I read the manga prior to watching this. Today's episode may be the worst in the entire series.

I totally agree, however not for the entire of this arc, mostly last few episodes, Wano started very well even Roger and White beard clash was great to watch.
Aug 8, 2021 8:41 PM

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apoo is annoying. plus episode wasnt that great. i guess the pacing slowed down again

"Many people die with their music still in them. Too often it is because
they are always getting ready to live. Before they know it, time runs out."

Aug 9, 2021 12:53 AM
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Pretty cool to see a few action scenes with Luffy, Zoro and Kid, but otherwise, pretty standard ep with large emphasis of flashbacks.
Aug 9, 2021 5:50 AM

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Toei can really do it. Extreme many flashbacks and not even a single statement of new content. I mean really? Kaido could at least say something different when he crashed at Kid and co. place. At least, we know by now that Apoo was the traitor, and Hawkins probably only joined because he had no other choice. It would be interesting to know more about Apoo's plan, which hopefully will be unfolded. Also, Scratchmen Apoo's power is a mystery. Interesting to see how it works.

Next time, Sanji is allured by another woman. Well, isn't that typical of him, hahaha.
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One of Wano’s worst episode easily.


Agreed, however, still better than many of the eps. from the Dressrosa arc.
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