Is battle shonen dying?

Scordolo said:
If the hype still maintains it's not dead lmao.Where did you get the idea from?
Chainsaw man's last publish was around 2020 and part 2 is on the way.
These battle shounen are not from shounen jump but are still battle shounen and is released fairly recently

https://myanimelist.net/manga/114745/Blue_Lock
Blue Lock-A sports Manga which is based on Football.It doesn't depend on your usual power of friendship trope.The characters have to find their ego in order to become the best striker in the world.

https://myanimelist.net/manga/126287/Sousou_no_Frieren

Frieren: Beyond Journey's End-Idk about this one but it's also a battle shounen and it is also released fairly rrecently and has won many awards.

Tokyo revengers-https://myanimelist.net/manga/104565/Tokyo%E5%8D%8DRevengers
It's about a boy who wants to save his ex.I'm not going into details as it may give out explicit spoilers.

All of the shounen I've mentioned are very recent and therefore,the battle shounen genre is not dying.

P.S battle shounen don't automatically get popular the year it is released.it takes at least a couple of years for people to talk about it.It's very rare for battle shounens to get popular the year it is released as they easily get hated on.

Armados said:
No. Its not dying. Sadly its not even required to be original in order for a battle shounen to be popular. Black Clover and JJK are blatant copies of old animes such as Naruto and Bleach. Kimetsu no Yaiba is literally a rehashed version of Bleach.

New battle shounens will pop up soon, don't worry. :)

pixelander said:
It seems like no new big battle shonens are coming out for shonen jump

skynet5c said:


Can you explain how Kimetsu no Yaiba is just a rehashed version of Bleach? I can't think of any obvious similarities between the two series, other than that the main characters both use swords.

TheFireNinja said:
You're giving me the impression that these series have just ended 😂. Jujutsu Kaisen just came out recently and Black Clover and MHA are still ongoing. Although MHA will be coming to an end pretty soon from what I've heard.



I've never really understood the mindset that something has to be wholly original to be good. I also don't know why people make the assumption that battle shounen is the only genre that is guilty of borrowing ideas from other shows. Genres like romance inside and outside revolve the same basic concept of someone finding love.

Armados said:

The entire interaction between the MC and the antagonist is made through the need to save a girl the MC is connected to - Bleach - > Rukia -> Orihime, Kimetsu no Yaiba -> Nezuko.

Armados said:

The antagonist is extremely overpowered, yet avoids combat due to plot convenience. They instead send an army of minions, with numeric ranks dictating their strength, to "kill the MC and his friends or delay them" - Bleach = Espadas, Kimetsu - Kizuki.

Armados said:

To combat said minions, the MC has a secondary group of powerful individuals, that will oppose said minions, that their entire goal is to kill the antagonist, yet they aren't capable of doing so - Bleach -> Gotei 13 captains, Kimetsu -> Hashiras.

The hashiras are extremely gimmicky just like the Gotei 13 captains. They are there just to carry the MC to the end goal.

Armados said:

Now let's look at the entire power system in general - Bleach has shikais and bankais, but the entire powerscaling is a mess and makes absolutely no sense. Same could be said about Kimetsu - all of the stances are literally just visual effects. Just because Tanjirou claims he does some water stance doesn't mean water is actually being generated, its just a visual effect that indicates what his movement represents. Like Bleach, the powerscaling in this series is a mess. Characters jump from not being able to kill regular demons easily to killing Kizukis with ease, the entire numbering system is stupid as fodder often overpowers the strongest Kizukis for "plot" and so on.

Armados said:

Both antagonists - Muzan and Aizen, could literally go on forever, by keeping on creating more and more overpowered minions to fight for them, but they don't do that due to "plot". Both are literally more or less immortal, have an infinite arsenal of possibilites, yet the MC is conviniently the way to stop them because reasons.

Armados said:

I can continue this with more similarities, but I believe you get the point at this point. Its way too similar to just be a coincidence, let alone the fact the author of Kimetsu uses plenty of gimmicks Kubo used (which weren't good to begin with) throughout the story, that other shounen mangas tend to not implement.

Preachee said:
wtf are you even spouting? "After JJK , MHA , Black Clovers , Chainsaw Man", isn't that enough proof that battle shounen clearly isn't dying? Or are you foretelling the future? What does "it seems" even mean, it's barely half a year since CSM ended, and most other manga you've mentioned is releasing. What were you on when you posted this? Tell me if I misunderstood your post.

Preachee said:
wtf are you even spouting? "After JJK , MHA , Black Clovers , Chainsaw Man", isn't that enough proof that battle shounen clearly isn't dying? Or are you foretelling the future? What does "it seems" even mean, it's barely half a year since CSM ended, and most other manga you've mentioned is releasing. What were you on when you posted this? Tell me if I misunderstood your post.

epidemia78 said:
Lol it's been 2 whole weeks without a new battle shonen franchise eating up all the attention. Is shonen dead?

pixelander said:


Authors are running outbid ideas for battle shonen, most new gen battle shonen just seem like old washed up versions of old battle shonens