| Im an anime only and ive enjoyed what everything happened so far. I dont get why the score dropped simply because its going anime original..the show isnt even finished yet! Though i understand your concerns dont get me wrong, it could end up like akame ga kill which sucked. From what ive heard, the manga gets worse overtime right? The author is working close with the studio and maybe its his choice for the anime to go this route for the better. Sorry if there are grammar mistakes, not native :v Ill definitely check out the manga and see for myself in the near future |
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| The Manga was very well done before chapter 118. The characters were fantastic and the plot was great. A well liked character (SPOILERS) Yuugo, was entirely skipped and played a big part in the next arc as well as in Ray and Emmas’ character development. What it looks like so far is that the anime will be skipping the “Goldy Pond” arc and Yuugos’ introduction completely, which has made many manga readers upset as the “Goldy Pond” arc was favorited among many of them and it would’ve been nice to see it animated. |
| the second arc that they skipped was really appreciated and well received even if some peoples didn't rate it as well as the first arc,and that arc had one of the most favorite characters aswell.many considered the manga to go downhill after the second or third arc but they entirely skipped to the third arc. and the problem is that even the adaptation of the third arc (the raid arc) was heavily inferior to the manga due to the absence of the characters from arc 2 and the silly execution, like the how trained soldiers were overpowered by some kids and them escaping unscratched. |
| Not everyone is mad. This might turn out to be fine. TPN manga wasn't something I called good anyway. This always happens lol, this is nothing new. I bet some anime only are upset too. |
| I haven't seen this season yet, but I' don't think manga was that good after 1st arc. It went downhill pretty soon. It was pretty much Talk No Jutsu. |
George_Alfaruq said: They mad because they don't know what is going to happen next. They are just showing their superiority complex cause they felt like they lost their advantage and bragging rights to people who are anime only watchers. They felt like the Studio is butchering the manga but they don't know the mangaka is a staff of the anime. This is a very fair, unbiased response. |
| So far they've removed major characters from the story, and it looks like they are going to skip the majority of the promised neverland that I would call great, leaving only the downhill spiral that happened in the manga. This is just a butchered adaptation. |
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KittyKatNoir said: I'm an anime-only viewer and had no stake in hoping for the strict adaptation of the manga. I could care less about changes they make that's anime original, as long as the anime is lit like it was in S1. In fact it wouldn't have to be as good as S1 to be seen as awesome and great, since S1 TPN went above and beyond, expecting that top tier level is too high of an expectation, I think..... But even I can tell that this anime S2 original is a nose dive. I haven't read the manga content, but I don't need to, to know that what I'm viewing in the anime is bad writing, bad execution, bad pacing. It's an inconsistent mess with top tier SoL cringe filler being thrown into the mix, that I just can't even express how depressed I am to see such a down grade. The character dialogue and slice of life interactions felt completely unnatural and forced. I don't want to watch and rewatch them take a bath or shower, I don't need to see Nat constantly play songs on the piano. This isn't a concert we came to view, we came to watch a story about children escaping a death farm, strategizing and training then implementing a plan to enact some sort of guerrilla warfare and sabotage to help rescue the rest of their brethren. I don't want to waste time watching instead, the kids fumbling around trying to catch land fish for a good chunk of the episode. Not to mention, I thought these kids were supposed to be savants, and prodigy's. Having food yet still deciding to test out a possible fataly toxic fish by having some or even one of the children consuming it?! What an incredibly stupid and dangerous decision to make without any fundamental reason, merit or benefit in taking such a risk Not to mention how blatantly obnoxious the plot armor is in ep 4.. 1)Two children will defeat an armed and equipped soldier. 2)that soldier won't scream or call for a team formation to chase those children. 3) there's an underground passage they can use to escape 4) one of the children used it as a playground so they know the way. 5)there's an extra exit the soldiers don't know about but the child does. 6)there's no soldiers outside near the shelter 7) the soldiers are exactly at their destination to capture them (near the woods) where of course a big monster appears and kills all the soldiers who apparently weren't prepared for it. 8)Ray shoots and hits the eye. 9)its the monster's weak spot, which the soldiers with GUNS couldn't hit once. 10) monster eats all and only the adults allowing all the kids to escape unscathed.... Wow, plot armor extraordinare. Are we supposed to believe that these special ops military men with guns couldn't even get anything done against a bunch of unprepared 12 year old and under children armed with a few bows and arrows? And Isabella is back to help hunt them down cause why? I mean obviously their trained military men are utterly idiotically useless but still. ...how is she going to magically know how to hunt them down and capture them? Not to mention they duped her before already after planning, training and implementing a successful escape under her care and watch so ......wtf? Why did they keep her around? She's in jail? But she's not a criminal that is serving time. She's livestock that's meant to help raise and groom other livestock for butcher. They aren't trying to rehabilitate a criminal back into society. To house criminals costs money, and resources so why spend it on one livestock animal? It's an illogical outcome UNLESS she's just a recycled plot device for uncreative writing and staff to use as a villain to save time, effort and money instead of bringing in new antagonists into the mix. The only 2 logical options that would've happened to her as a character would be, that they killed her and sold her off as cheap since she's aged (kinda like selling mutton, instead of lamb) ....or she gets shipped to a breeding farm since she might bare more high-quality livestock. Which is reminiscent to Handmaid's Tale, and being a shonen, may be too adult themed, but if so, then they should have just killed her off. Having her be jailed is just ridiculous and would only happen if she was a plot device in a bad script. There's more wrong with this episode and in fact the entire 2nd season that I could rant about but I think I'll just end it there for now with one parting comment... Since ep 1, something felt off with the pacing, as well as the weird dialogue that seemed more like plot narration exposition for viewers rather than in-character dialogue interactions with each other. With ep.4, my unease/ nervousness has turned into crushing disappointment. Even though I haven't read the manga, I wouldn't need to, to understand the frustration of the manga readers, since they changed what was for a lot of fans, their favorite arc, and presented instead this steaming pile as a replacement. If the show somehow does a 180 turnaround from episode 5 onward, I'd be absolutely floored, but the probability is next to null if given the recent episodes that's been released so far in S2 is anything to go by. I love your response and I love you, full homo |
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| Im not mad about neverland getting an original/filler arc. I'm just really confused they are skipping an entire Arc for it. And with the Original Author involved, he is basiacally saying this Arc isn't worth adapting. |
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| I'm speechless. Goldy Pond was the only remaining arc I was REALLY looking forward to, and they just fucking deleted it from existence: No Yuugo, no Lucas & gang, no Lewis. What a goddamn disappointment, Holy shit. If you’re wondering why manga readers are pissed is because they’ve skipped parts, cut out a important character who impacts the family for Isabella Bizarre Adventures pt.2? It was the 3rd half of the manga that went downhill, it was still good at this point. I’m sure anime only watchers can see there’s pacing issues, contrived writing, plot armour and plot holes e.g. is the “HELP” from the room going to mean something now? I know the author is involved so I’ll watch and maybe I’ll figure out why he wanted to go with this different (worse) direction. |
FlexstyleFeb 1, 2021 6:12 AM
KittyKatNoir said: I'm an anime-only viewer and had no stake in hoping for the strict adaptation of the manga. I could care less about changes they make that's anime original, as long as the anime is lit like it was in S1. In fact it wouldn't have to be as good as S1 to be seen as awesome and great, since S1 TPN went above and beyond, expecting that top tier level is too high of an expectation, I think..... But even I can tell that this anime S2 original is a nose dive. I haven't read the manga content, but I don't need to, to know that what I'm viewing in the anime is bad writing, bad execution, bad pacing. It's an inconsistent mess with top tier SoL cringe filler being thrown into the mix, that I just can't even express how depressed I am to see such a down grade. The character dialogue and slice of life interactions felt completely unnatural and forced. I don't want to watch and rewatch them take a bath or shower, I don't need to see Nat constantly play songs on the piano. This isn't a concert we came to view, we came to watch a story about children escaping a death farm, strategizing and training then implementing a plan to enact some sort of guerrilla warfare and sabotage to help rescue the rest of their brethren. I don't want to waste time watching instead, the kids fumbling around trying to catch land fish for a good chunk of the episode. Not to mention, I thought these kids were supposed to be savants, and prodigy's. Having food yet still deciding to test out a possible fataly toxic fish by having some or even one of the children consuming it?! What an incredibly stupid and dangerous decision to make without any fundamental reason, merit or benefit in taking such a risk Not to mention how blatantly obnoxious the plot armor is in ep 4.. 1)Two children will defeat an armed and equipped soldier. 2)that soldier won't scream or call for a team formation to chase those children. 3) there's an underground passage they can use to escape 4) one of the children used it as a playground so they know the way. 5)there's an extra exit the soldiers don't know about but the child does. 6)there's no soldiers outside near the shelter 7) the soldiers are exactly at their destination to capture them (near the woods) where of course a big monster appears and kills all the soldiers who apparently weren't prepared for it. 8)Ray shoots and hits the eye. 9)its the monster's weak spot, which the soldiers with GUNS couldn't hit once. 10) monster eats all and only the adults allowing all the kids to escape unscathed.... Wow, plot armor extraordinare. Are we supposed to believe that these special ops military men with guns couldn't even get anything done against a bunch of unprepared 12 year old and under children armed with a few bows and arrows? And Isabella is back to help hunt them down cause why? I mean obviously their trained military men are utterly idiotically useless but still. ...how is she going to magically know how to hunt them down and capture them? Not to mention they duped her before already after planning, training and implementing a successful escape under her care and watch so ......wtf? Why did they keep her around? She's in jail? But she's not a criminal that is serving time. She's livestock that's meant to help raise and groom other livestock for butcher. They aren't trying to rehabilitate a criminal back into society. To house criminals costs money, and resources so why spend it on one livestock animal? It's an illogical outcome UNLESS she's just a recycled plot device for uncreative writing and staff to use as a villain to save time, effort and money instead of bringing in new antagonists into the mix. The only 2 logical options that would've happened to her as a character would be, that they killed her and sold her off as cheap since she's aged (kinda like selling mutton, instead of lamb) ....or she gets shipped to a breeding farm since she might bare more high-quality livestock. Which is reminiscent to Handmaid's Tale, and being a shonen, may be too adult themed, but if so, then they should have just killed her off. Having her be jailed is just ridiculous and would only happen if she was a plot device in a bad script. There's more wrong with this episode and in fact the entire 2nd season that I could rant about but I think I'll just end it there for now with one parting comment... Since ep 1, something felt off with the pacing, as well as the weird dialogue that seemed more like plot narration exposition for viewers rather than in-character dialogue interactions with each other. With ep.4, my unease/ nervousness has turned into crushing disappointment. Even though I haven't read the manga, I wouldn't need to, to understand the frustration of the manga readers, since they changed what was for a lot of fans, their favorite arc, and presented instead this steaming pile as a replacement. If the show somehow does a 180 turnaround from episode 5 onward, I'd be absolutely floored, but the probability is next to null if given the recent episodes that's been released so far in S2 is anything to go by. Hit the nail right on the head or should I say hit the arrow right in the demon's eye lmao. |
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| The promised neverland was never that good anyway. I always found the children obnoxious and it's the same in this season. The only good part of season 1 was Isabella and her backstory. Everything else was painfully mediocre. |
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| I would just wait and watch. TbH the best part of Neverland was the first arc and I was disappointed regarding its adaptation. Leaving the inner monologues was not good. Ideally it should have been 13/14 episodes long. It's not like animating them would have been much of a problem. They just needed a good soundtrack and probably an animation which they could have reused. Even still images which change every few seconds work perfectly fine for monologues. |
shubh_jain_2Feb 1, 2021 2:51 AM
| 'I have no bonds tying me down. That's why I can see things as they are!!' - Yugami |
KittyKatNoir said: I'm an anime-only viewer and had no stake in hoping for the strict adaptation of the manga. I could care less about changes they make that's anime original, as long as the anime is lit like it was in S1. In fact it wouldn't have to be as good as S1 to be seen as awesome and great, since S1 TPN went above and beyond, expecting that top tier level is too high of an expectation, I think..... But even I can tell that this anime S2 original is a nose dive. I haven't read the manga content, but I don't need to, to know that what I'm viewing in the anime is bad writing, bad execution, bad pacing. It's an inconsistent mess with top tier SoL cringe filler being thrown into the mix, that I just can't even express how depressed I am to see such a down grade. The character dialogue and slice of life interactions felt completely unnatural and forced. I don't want to watch and rewatch them take a bath or shower, I don't need to see Nat constantly play songs on the piano. This isn't a concert we came to view, we came to watch a story about children escaping a death farm, strategizing and training then implementing a plan to enact some sort of guerrilla warfare and sabotage to help rescue the rest of their brethren. I don't want to waste time watching instead, the kids fumbling around trying to catch land fish for a good chunk of the episode. Not to mention, I thought these kids were supposed to be savants, and prodigy's. Having food yet still deciding to test out a possible fataly toxic fish by having some or even one of the children consuming it?! What an incredibly stupid and dangerous decision to make without any fundamental reason, merit or benefit in taking such a risk Not to mention how blatantly obnoxious the plot armor is in ep 4.. 1)Two children will defeat an armed and equipped soldier. 2)that soldier won't scream or call for a team formation to chase those children. 3) there's an underground passage they can use to escape 4) one of the children used it as a playground so they know the way. 5)there's an extra exit the soldiers don't know about but the child does. 6)there's no soldiers outside near the shelter 7) the soldiers are exactly at their destination to capture them (near the woods) where of course a big monster appears and kills all the soldiers who apparently weren't prepared for it. 8)Ray shoots and hits the eye. 9)its the monster's weak spot, which the soldiers with GUNS couldn't hit once. 10) monster eats all and only the adults allowing all the kids to escape unscathed.... Wow, plot armor extraordinare. Are we supposed to believe that these special ops military men with guns couldn't even get anything done against a bunch of unprepared 12 year old and under children armed with a few bows and arrows? And Isabella is back to help hunt them down cause why? I mean obviously their trained military men are utterly idiotically useless but still. ...how is she going to magically know how to hunt them down and capture them? Not to mention they duped her before already after planning, training and implementing a successful escape under her care and watch so ......wtf? Why did they keep her around? She's in jail? But she's not a criminal that is serving time. She's livestock that's meant to help raise and groom other livestock for butcher. They aren't trying to rehabilitate a criminal back into society. To house criminals costs money, and resources so why spend it on one livestock animal? It's an illogical outcome UNLESS she's just a recycled plot device for uncreative writing and staff to use as a villain to save time, effort and money instead of bringing in new antagonists into the mix. The only 2 logical options that would've happened to her as a character would be, that they killed her and sold her off as cheap since she's aged (kinda like selling mutton, instead of lamb) ....or she gets shipped to a breeding farm since she might bare more high-quality livestock. Which is reminiscent to Handmaid's Tale, and being a shonen, may be too adult themed, but if so, then they should have just killed her off. Having her be jailed is just ridiculous and would only happen if she was a plot device in a bad script. There's more wrong with this episode and in fact the entire 2nd season that I could rant about but I think I'll just end it there for now with one parting comment... Since ep 1, something felt off with the pacing, as well as the weird dialogue that seemed more like plot narration exposition for viewers rather than in-character dialogue interactions with each other. With ep.4, my unease/ nervousness has turned into crushing disappointment. Even though I haven't read the manga, I wouldn't need to, to understand the frustration of the manga readers, since they changed what was for a lot of fans, their favorite arc, and presented instead this steaming pile as a replacement. If the show somehow does a 180 turnaround from episode 5 onward, I'd be absolutely floored, but the probability is next to null if given the recent episodes that's been released so far in S2 is anything to go by. Good point about Isabella. It doesn't make sense why the Demons would build prisons that had "human sized" beds and toiletries inside of a cell. |
KittyKatNoir said: I'm an anime-only viewer and had no stake in hoping for the strict adaptation of the manga. I could care less about changes they make that's anime original, as long as the anime is lit like it was in S1. In fact it wouldn't have to be as good as S1 to be seen as awesome and great, since S1 TPN went above and beyond, expecting that top tier level is too high of an expectation, I think..... But even I can tell that this anime S2 original is a nose dive. I haven't read the manga content, but I don't need to, to know that what I'm viewing in the anime is bad writing, bad execution, bad pacing. It's an inconsistent mess with top tier SoL cringe filler being thrown into the mix, that I just can't even express how depressed I am to see such a down grade. The character dialogue and slice of life interactions felt completely unnatural and forced. I don't want to watch and rewatch them take a bath or shower, I don't need to see Nat constantly play songs on the piano. This isn't a concert we came to view, we came to watch a story about children escaping a death farm, strategizing and training then implementing a plan to enact some sort of guerrilla warfare and sabotage to help rescue the rest of their brethren. I don't want to waste time watching instead, the kids fumbling around trying to catch land fish for a good chunk of the episode. Not to mention, I thought these kids were supposed to be savants, and prodigy's. Having food yet still deciding to test out a possible fataly toxic fish by having some or even one of the children consuming it?! What an incredibly stupid and dangerous decision to make without any fundamental reason, merit or benefit in taking such a risk Not to mention how blatantly obnoxious the plot armor is in ep 4.. 1)Two children will defeat an armed and equipped soldier. 2)that soldier won't scream or call for a team formation to chase those children. 3) there's an underground passage they can use to escape 4) one of the children used it as a playground so they know the way. 5)there's an extra exit the soldiers don't know about but the child does. 6)there's no soldiers outside near the shelter 7) the soldiers are exactly at their destination to capture them (near the woods) where of course a big monster appears and kills all the soldiers who apparently weren't prepared for it. 8)Ray shoots and hits the eye. 9)its the monster's weak spot, which the soldiers with GUNS couldn't hit once. 10) monster eats all and only the adults allowing all the kids to escape unscathed.... Wow, plot armor extraordinare. Are we supposed to believe that these special ops military men with guns couldn't even get anything done against a bunch of unprepared 12 year old and under children armed with a few bows and arrows? And Isabella is back to help hunt them down cause why? I mean obviously their trained military men are utterly idiotically useless but still. ...how is she going to magically know how to hunt them down and capture them? Not to mention they duped her before already after planning, training and implementing a successful escape under her care and watch so ......wtf? Why did they keep her around? She's in jail? But she's not a criminal that is serving time. She's livestock that's meant to help raise and groom other livestock for butcher. They aren't trying to rehabilitate a criminal back into society. To house criminals costs money, and resources so why spend it on one livestock animal? It's an illogical outcome UNLESS she's just a recycled plot device for uncreative writing and staff to use as a villain to save time, effort and money instead of bringing in new antagonists into the mix. The only 2 logical options that would've happened to her as a character would be, that they killed her and sold her off as cheap since she's aged (kinda like selling mutton, instead of lamb) ....or she gets shipped to a breeding farm since she might bare more high-quality livestock. Which is reminiscent to Handmaid's Tale, and being a shonen, may be too adult themed, but if so, then they should have just killed her off. Having her be jailed is just ridiculous and would only happen if she was a plot device in a bad script. There's more wrong with this episode and in fact the entire 2nd season that I could rant about but I think I'll just end it there for now with one parting comment... Since ep 1, something felt off with the pacing, as well as the weird dialogue that seemed more like plot narration exposition for viewers rather than in-character dialogue interactions with each other. With ep.4, my unease/ nervousness has turned into crushing disappointment. Even though I haven't read the manga, I wouldn't need to, to understand the frustration of the manga readers, since they changed what was for a lot of fans, their favorite arc, and presented instead this steaming pile as a replacement. If the show somehow does a 180 turnaround from episode 5 onward, I'd be absolutely floored, but the probability is next to null if given the recent episodes that's been released so far in S2 is anything to go by. Yes, another quote, because it deserves. Watching it i thought that all the elite squad attack was completely dumb. And i also had to skip the slice of life moments in the wrong context. I'm not manga reader, and i felt something is very wrong with this 2nd season. Not a surprise that the score drop from 8.42 after the 1st episode to 8.10 now and it is still falling. |
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| Because they skipped the best arc in the series. |
| check out odd taxi |
| Yeah, I certainly don't think there's a holier than thou manga reader complex going on here that's mad because we don't know what's going to happen next. The implications of the episode is that like 1/3rd of the manga's content is either going to be rehashed very poorly into the story, or skipped entirely(the latter seems to be the worst fear). I appreciate when shows step up to try experimental things and explore the world more; but in this case it's condensing it so it explores it even less, which is a damn shame. If it's not broken, don't fix it. |
| My question is... how could they follow the manga EXACTLY in season 1 and completely deviate from the manga in season 2?? Doesn't make any sense. Season 1 was extremely popular and well received, why would they change the formula and fuck everything up. |
| Not mad here. But the last episode was pretty bad, regardless of it following the manga or not. Might be good from this point on, but might be a beautiful trainwreck as well. Time will tell. |
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shaelvn said: The Manga was very well done before chapter 118. The characters were fantastic and the plot was great. A well liked character (SPOILERS) Yuugo, was entirely skipped and played a big part in the next arc as well as in Ray and Emmas’ character development. What it looks like so far is that the anime will be skipping the “Goldy Pond” arc and Yuugos’ introduction completely, which has made many manga readers upset as the “Goldy Pond” arc was favorited among many of them and it would’ve been nice to see it animated. I'm very disappointed they removed Goldy Pond arc. I was really hoping to see Yuugo but sadly, no Yuugo, no Goldy Pond. Fvvvvck. |
| They skipped an entire arc. For me personally, they skipped my favorite arc that i've been anticipating to see animated. |
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| It's also ridiculous that the kids just become instantly dumb. A mysterious phone is ringing and they just go up and answer it? No suspicion, no mind games, nothing? They find the room with "help" written on it and... never talk about it? I feel like season one would have spent a ton of time on how this shelter might just be a trap. Not even anything showing how they mapped out the tunnels and planned an escape route. Nah. Just one kid who happened to know another way out. Especially after they get assaulted. When the soldier says that the shelters usually have two entrances. Indicating they clearly know about not only this shelter, but that there must be others. Obviously something more complex is going on. Instead they just drop it. |
SadBoiTime said: Im an anime only and ive enjoyed what everything happened so far. I dont get why the score dropped simply because its going anime original..the show isnt even finished yet! Though i understand your concerns dont get me wrong, it could end up like akame ga kill which sucked. From what ive heard, the manga gets worse overtime right? The author is working close with the studio and maybe its his choice for the anime to go this route for the better. Sorry if there are grammar mistakes, not native :v Ill definitely check out the manga and see for myself in the near future Just imagine wathing something that cut almost all of your favorite characters and one of better story arc. It's not like I can't enyoing something that's diffrent from original source but when I watch it I just have a feeling like when I read low quality fanfiction. If you enjoy anime it's good, people can like what they want but I just feeling bad when someone tells "why manga readers can't just enjoy the anime?" cause I knew a completely different story from what I see and I just can't like it :/ |
| season two is just disappointing since they actually skipped my favorite character. Also my favorite arc. Who wouldn't be mad or upset. |
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