| Is fishing fun? Why do you think it is fun, or why is it not? Do fish have feelings of pain or horror? |
If life ain't just a joke Then why are we laughing? If life ain't just a joke Then why am I dead? |
| I would say that hunting down something like a deer is "worse" morally than catching and killing a fish because the minds of fish aren't as similar to ours. Regardless, I think both of them are cruel actions, unless you really need to do it for food (which you usually don't in the modern world) or another important purpose. The person doing it isn't necessarily a cruel person, maybe they don't want the animal to suffer and so on, but an action in and of itself can be cruel too. If you kill another creature of course there is a cruelty to it. I have never tried fishing but I imagine it can be really fun, like playing a computer game or doing some sort of sport or children's game. I wouldn't want fishing to be prohibited if there's not too much of it. |
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| If it's for food, why not. If it's just for the hell of it and that, then I guess it is cruel. |
SargonTheGreat said: that's just an urban myth, not true at all.Dont goldfish lose their memory every minute or something? If all fish are like goldfish then it isnt cruelty because they probably cant even comprehend whats going on. fishing is cool and all until people start driving them tunas to extinction |
| Fish lack the higher intelligence required for pain. So it isn't cruel. It is rather enjoyable and peaceful. |
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| That entirely depends on things that you're fishing for. |
 “There is great satisfaction in fighting for the sake of gaining power, but it’s joyless to fight for the sake of maintaining it.” – Reinhard Von Lohengramm |
| Not another pussy PETA-tard vegan thread. |
| For people like Robson Green who BBC Earth seems to have a huge (lady)boner on—because there's not a day you'd miss his show—it's a lifestyle. |
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| It's kill or be killed. Use every single part of the animal. ezikialrage said: Not another pussy PETA-tard vegan thread. Your picture fits surprisingly well. |
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| Depends. Are you eating what you catch? Nothing wrong with that. But fishing/hunting for sport is completely wild in my opinion... but I come from a place where people actually hunt to save money and fill their bellies. Rural Manitoba, Canada. I don’t see what’s interesting about killing a deer and leaving it’s body to rot. People need to be a little more respectful of what nature gives us. And why fuck around with fish for no reason |
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| This is a post a vegan would make. If you've fished before you'd know you can always return them back to sea. |
LordTuchankaNov 6, 2020 10:11 PM
| It's fun Also people who go fishing for hobby usually return the fishes back to the lake |
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| Fish don't experience pain same as we do they react to damaging stimuli more reflexively than think about it at least as far as we know. It''s not something I am making up it's what I heard off science stuff. There is a difference in that the pain isn't perceived on a deeper level. So it's not as bad as if it were a mamal. I am not sure what it could be compaired to. Perhaps insects? Though probably above insects due to being larger. It's not really something I am interested in like I used to years bacm because I am concerned even in caitch and release the fish may be killed from damage done to their bodies which is worse than caitching them to eat because it's wasteful and more self centred when it's merely for fun not food. |
| I think most people that fish for sports are massive dicks to the fish so I rather they to get a new hobby. As for fishing for food, Im okay with it. Fish meat is a cheap way to get many essential nutrients and fishing is much less wastfull and stressfull to the fish than fish farming or mass fishing, where fish that aren't the ones we want, reptiles and mamals -that are even more capable of feeling pain- get killed. |
N04L1TYNov 7, 2020 12:30 AM
| heh. |
| Reminded me of a video I saw about vegans protesting on pearl / oyster farming. Why is it that some here believes fishing as a hobby is more cruel than fishing for food? Unless you return them back alive, they both end up dead.. it's equally cruel. |
 もろともに 哀れと思へ 山桜 花より外に 知る人もなし. On a mountain slope, Solitary, uncompanioned, Stands a cherry tree. Except for you, lonely friend, To others I am unknown. |
| WWJD? It is rather interesting that both Jesus and Dr. Seuss was very interested in fish and fishing. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and he will feed himself for a lifetime. One fish, two fish, blue fish, red fish. Nick nack paddy whack give a dog a bone. |
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| Without fishing then it means there wont be fish to eat/fish fingers/ salmon |
 "Don't give up after failing just twice. We'll be able to do it next time. Failure is the stepping stone to success." |
| It's stupid. Just like hunting it's a cruel and unnecessary "sport" |
| To fish you need bait Kid me was afraid of hooks cause I feared I'd hook my fingers and not the bait. For some of my relatives who suffer from violent tendencies fishing helps them not commit crime. Most of them unhook caught fish and throw 'em back. There's also areas on the planet unsuitable for agriculture where people fish or hunt to trade for veg and fruit. Other animals hunt for fish as well. Though their diet options are often much more limited. |
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| First of all its natural! There are countries that survive due to fishing and its specialy deserted islands with few people or animals. I also live in an island and its one of the basic needs in order to live. We are careful to fish at legal spots and the seasons its permited though. |
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| It's a hobby. I've never been very good at it. |
| I CELEBRATE myself, And what I assume you shall assume, For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you. |
| I am okay with it if you're going to eat the fish, but if you just want to pierce open its flesh and then dump it back into the water - that's cruelty. Ironic thing is, you talk about the same thing with cows and most people will be saying "yummy burger". |
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| I always was kind of neutral towards hunting and fishing. It is kind of cruel, but that is the basis of life imo. |
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| Let any fish who meets my gaze learn the true meaning of fear; for I am the harbinger of death. The bane of creatures sub-aqueous, my rod is true and unwavering as I cast into the aquatic abyss. A man, scorned by this uncaring Earth, finds solace in the sea. My only friend, the worm upon my hook. Wriggling, writhing, struggling to surmount the mortal pointlessness that permeates this barren world. I am alone. I am empty. And yet, I fish. It's fun. |
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| Given how polluted British waters are, it might be a blessing to be hooked out. Look what happened to this poor fella :( |
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| I mean you can fish and then return them afterwards Even if you don't I see no problem with that, fish can't feel pain, and I don't see a reason to feel pity for them |
| idk have you tried asking what the fish think about it? |
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| Yes, fish can feel pain. But it's easier to pretend they don't, and avoid even quick google searches. If all fails, you can say that they're dumb, so it's ok to kill them. Just don't let others catch your children if they turn out dumb. |
| Ask Hiyori and Koharu from Slow Loop. The poll options don't make a good deal of sense in the first place, because "It's cruel" and "It's natural" are not even remotely mutually exclusive notions. It's both cruel and natural. Many, many things are both cruel and natural. Although since "cruel" usually in my view carries with it a subtle implication of deliberate malice, I prefer to use the term "brutal" for this and other natural phenomena. Like a brutal hurricane, tsunami, or blizzard rather than a cruel one. All organisms and especially all consumer classes of lifeforms (less so plants), such as all animals (including humans and all species of fish), fungi, bacteria, many protists, many archaea, and viruses (contentiously debated philosophically and in some sectors of the scientific community if they actually constitute life, but I personally consider them as such) all step on, kill, drain, and exploit other walks of life for their own betterment in some way, shape, or form; to survive, thrive, grow, and expand. I don't view a human killing a fish during the act of fishing therefore as any fundamentally different from an animal killing any other animal for food - i.e. something which occurs every single second of every day and will probably not ever stop until the end of the universe or at least this galaxy or just Earth itself. Something that makes organisms part of what they are. I don't think a human killing a fish is any better or worse than a human killing a cow, pig, chicken, goat, lamb, or turkey. I don't place mammals as some exclusive category or place mammals or birds (the poultry meats) above or below aquatic life in some delusional pyramid. I'm also not an anthropocentrist. Animals are animals (humans included). Cows or dogs or cats or golden snub-nosed monkeys aren't better than a rainbow trout or a crayfish or more or less worthy or deserving of life. I don't see the purpose behind the catch-and-release side of recreational fishing though. It has always seemed like a pointless waste of time and energy in that I would never have any interest in doing it if there wasn't something to be gained, like actually acquiring delicious fish as food. If it's just for prestige and "bragging rights" similar to trophy hunting then it seems like a useless and unenjoyable activity to me, but every whim and thought has a person willing to enact it. |
WatchTillTandavaFeb 21, 2022 7:22 AM
| It's cruel, but fish are delicious. As for fishing, same as hunting. It can't be considered sport. Because in a sport both parties know it's a sport. |
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| I am... pleasantly surprised to see so many people here with the same opinion as me. I've always said that fishing for sport (as opposed to fishing for food) doesn't sit right with me, and nobody's ever agreed with me before I'm not going to be rallying armies to take down hobby fishers or anything like that, but I just think that survival (be it for food or for self-defense) is the only natural reason to end another creature's existence. Others can disagree with me and that's totally fine, but I certainly won't be fishing anytime soon since I hate seafood, lol |
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| Sport fishing is cruel just like sport hunting. |
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| I don't care if it's cruel, I like to eat fish. If the fish isn't big enough by law, if you have one, throw it back. Imagine feeling for a fish. The sissy levels are indescribably high here. If you will it, being a higher lifeform, you can kill whatever you want that isn't on our same level of sentience. It's literally here to die for us. That's how survival works. Gee who would've known. >oh my god you're mocking fish Do you know how stupid you sound lmao I'll hunt all the fish how about that |
| Lie until what you want to be true becomes truth. Lie until you can't remember what's a lie and what isn't. Lie until you aren't lying anymore! Figures  |
| the world is cruel but beautiful - mikasa its eat or be eaten |
| We are predators we hunt to survive if it means taking fish out of the water to stay alive than its natural |
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| people who fish for sport are assholes it's just needless cruelty |
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| Sport fishing is definitely cruel... |
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| its both fun and natural and not wrong at all unless things are being hunted to endangerment and therefor effecting the ecosystem. money spent on hunting and fishing licenses goes towards animal conservation programs, and some species of animal need to be culled or else all the animals will suffer via starvation because the land cant sustain that number of animals. |
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| Catch and release seems cruel to me. Catching and frying is much more natural. |
| Depends how much of a dick the fish is being. |
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