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Sep 28, 2020 7:12 AM
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Émilia Hoarfrost

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Could you betray a friend?

To me, a friend is precisely the kind of person I respect so much that I would not betray them.

However, sometimes in life you've gotta make choices that are excruciating, but necessary.

Still, I believe that a friend is someone you can't betray? Like, objectively speaking. If you could betray them, they would only be fake friends.

Or perhaps that I confuse lover and friend? You know, with the latin root of amicus being "amō" or "amare".

Also, I consider friendship to be one of the first stepping stones of gradual relationships of trust, with lover being higher than friend, perhaps?



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Sep 28, 2020 7:49 AM
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I can't betray a friend but friends betrayed me, guys I knew for years yet they acted like vermin. What can I say, life is complicated, this betray stuff is different from case to case, in mine there were no excuses.
Sep 28, 2020 7:52 AM
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Well, I could betray a friend, but I won't do it. Also, you shouldn't betray your lover either.
Sep 28, 2020 7:59 AM
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I know what it feels to be stabbed in the back by people I considered friends, so no I wouldn't betray a friend.

Sep 28, 2020 8:14 AM
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The concept of betrayal is very foreign to me. Maybe that's because I only have a select few friends that I already knew since I was young.
Sep 28, 2020 8:18 AM
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I'm just generally not good at lying and betraying someone. It's really easy for me to feel guilty from even the slightest thing, so no.


Sep 28, 2020 10:01 AM
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It depends on the severity of the betrayal and my exact relationship with the person. Most of the "friends" I have or have had were more akin to acquaintances than true friendship, and the idea of "betraying" any one of them isn't something so disgusting in my mind.
Sep 28, 2020 10:03 AM
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if i were to betray them, then i probably never considered them an actual friend in the first place.
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is this a male gender issure...human issue...mental illness perhaps?
Sep 28, 2020 10:23 AM
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I became friends with a girl in first grade and we were pretty close. We were very similar and would always hang out during class, lunchtime, recess, and occasionally hang out outside of school. She made a huge influence on my life and on who I am today. I really loved her.

But one day in fourth grade, I started hanging out with other kids. This, of course, is fine. It's good to make other friends and I had seriously wanted more friends. But I made a mistake. I started to drift away from the girl that I was truly close to. I don't know if she will ever forgive me for abandoning her. I miss her so much, but what happened has happened.

There are more elements to this story that make it even more sad, but I don't really wanna get into the details. It's nice to get this off my chest.

Edit: I should add that I am in no way like this anymore. This incident was years ago and it has taught me the value of friendship.
Apathy512Sep 28, 2020 10:37 AM
Sep 28, 2020 10:30 AM
Émilia Hoarfrost

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SargonTheGreat said:
Apathy512 said:
I became friends with a girl in first grade and we were pretty close. We were very similar and would always hang out during class, lunchtime, recess, and occasionally hang out outside of school. She made a huge influence on my life and on who I am today. I really loved her.

But one day in fourth grade, I started hanging out with other kids. This, of course, is fine. It's good to make other friends and I had seriously wanted more friends. But I made a mistake. I started to drift away from the girl that I was truly close to. I don't know if she will ever forgive me for abandoning her. I miss her so much, but what happened has happened.

There are more elements to this story that make it even more sad, but I don't really wanna get into the details. It's nice to get this off my chest.
No offense but technically you betrayed her for popularity and shes probably turned into a cynic who is disgusted by other people now.

But I'm sure if time has passed, contacting her and organizing to meet up or check on each other might be the key to a new-found friendship. If from the start two people were similar, then in the end they must not be too far apart. Plus sometimes, sharing something in common is the start to friendship.
Well, I don't know more of the context and perhaps that the person died or went overseas or something.



Sep 28, 2020 11:41 AM

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A drama thread huh
There was this 6th grade friend of mine who always shared porns with me.One day he became religious and we turned from best friend to worst enemies, hell he even once wanted to attack me with some needle thingy(I was kind of the bad boy stereotype back then)
Now we've switched places.lmao
Sometimes I still see him and we just say hi
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Sep 28, 2020 12:02 PM
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@Fatephile
It's not a drama thread, if you read the titled I asked for "Could you betray a friend?". You're totally off-topic. Not that we're in a lecture or whatever, lol. But still, I intended for people to share their conception of a friend...

(Also what was the kind of sauce?)



Sep 28, 2020 12:10 PM
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No that's horrible I could never betray a friend.
People who smile to your face while they stab you in the back are worst kind of people if you can even consider them human since they lack empathy.
Sep 28, 2020 12:22 PM

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@Fatephile
It's not a drama thread, if you read the titled I asked for "Could you betray a friend?". You're totally off-topic. Not that we're in a lecture or whatever, lol. But still, I intended for people to share their conception of a friend...

(Also what was the kind of sauce?)

Sauce? What sauce are you talking about?
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Sep 28, 2020 12:27 PM

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Yes I could betray a friend, people I considered "friends" didn't have a problem betraying me so why not.

But it still depends on the situation I wouldn't just randomly betray a friend obviously, but if the time is right and I have a reason to do so, yes.


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Sep 28, 2020 1:25 PM
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No since I don’t have any friends.
Sep 28, 2020 1:34 PM

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Depends on whether you value your family or your friend more. The choice becomes much harder if someone points a gun on your friend and your family members' heads and ask you to pick a side

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Sep 28, 2020 1:41 PM
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I've never had a friend before so I don't know how to answer this question
Sep 28, 2020 2:03 PM

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All friendships only exist because of shared interests, If I can get a lot more by giving it away I wouldn't mind at all.
Sep 28, 2020 3:47 PM
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No. Well I could but i wont. Maybe.....just maybe...
Sep 28, 2020 3:52 PM

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Yes, if I had to, then absolutely. Every man for himself!
Sep 28, 2020 4:07 PM

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can't betray something you do not have.
Sep 28, 2020 6:03 PM

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I can't imagine betraying people I love so nope!
Sep 28, 2020 7:07 PM

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Imagine you have a friend that hurts itself (it= he or she). A friend who has a compulsive personnality, or crazy for its lover or starting to shit smoke drugs. And that friend made you promise to let it do whatever!

I say you break that promise in order to save it. Betraying as an act of love and friendship is the most beautiful act in the world.
Sep 28, 2020 8:12 PM
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Girl friends before girlfriends. Always.
Sep 28, 2020 8:21 PM

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would you betray a friend for 18 billion dollars
Sep 28, 2020 8:24 PM

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Never, unless they betray me first.
Sep 28, 2020 8:25 PM

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If I can avoid it is, but sometimes shit happens and I fuck up. But I try to treat them better than they treat me

Slawadia said:
would you betray a friend for 18 billion dollars


Yes and give them half the money, they'll understand
Sep 28, 2020 8:28 PM

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i think i already have since i do not socialize with them for a long long time now although i did tell them honestly that im clinically schizophrenic that i become asocial and too paranoid even to them sometimes
Sep 28, 2020 9:33 PM
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I know myself and how twisted my thinking can be sometimes, but thoughts are harmless until they're executed as actions. I don't think I could actually go ahead and betray a friend even if I'm guilty of having the thought. it's the worst feeling to be betrayed by someone you thought you could trust
Sep 29, 2020 4:21 AM
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Can’t go around betraying friends. I wouldn’t do it.
Sep 29, 2020 5:12 AM
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In my beliefs of friendship isn't a place for a betrayal. I believe in a pure and loyal friendship between two persons, without any secrets, any hidden motive.
Sep 29, 2020 5:49 AM

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Of course I will I always do 😄😄😄😄😄



But the real question will forgive a friend who betrays you??
Sep 29, 2020 5:53 AM

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hmm I do have friends but none that are so close that I will really stay loyal to them. I don't think they could care less about me either. We just give each other company in school. So yeah, if such a situation arises, I might betray my friend.




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Sep 29, 2020 6:14 AM
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I have no friends to betray. I personally I don't want any either.
Sep 29, 2020 7:25 AM
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I could and steal all of their money as well.
Sep 29, 2020 8:22 AM

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Very few people that I would consider "friend"
I have a lot of people that I'm cool with that would consider me their friend, but I don't
I wouldn't betray a friend, but I couldn't care less about the people that I'm cool with
But Ion trust anyone anyways
Sep 29, 2020 8:41 AM

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I have 'betrayed' people who called me a friend. They just didn't realize that the feelings weren't mutual.

BannedAkko said:
Can’t go around betraying friends. I wouldn’t do it.


But I guess betraying a fiancée is perfectly acceptable for you? Cheating is a form of betrayal you know.

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SoftImpaler said:
I have 'betrayed' people who called of me a friend. They just didn't realize that the feelings weren't mutual.

BannedAkko said:
Can’t go around betraying friends. I wouldn’t do it.


But I guess betraying a fiancée is perfectly acceptable for you? Cheating is a form of betrayal you know.

Yes I am well aware. But some things must be done.
Sep 29, 2020 10:13 AM

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Betraying someone I respect and trust isn't in my nature.
Sep 29, 2020 11:14 AM

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No, betrayal and sadism are both the biggest moral evils in my opinion.
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Sep 29, 2020 11:33 AM

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Yes, unless that friend is in the top percentile in my friend list which is like 2 people so. Most likely yes, even if you respect you.


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Sep 29, 2020 11:34 AM

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BannedAkko said:
SoftImpaler said:
I have 'betrayed' people who called of me a friend. They just didn't realize that the feelings weren't mutual.



But I guess betraying a fiancée is perfectly acceptable for you? Cheating is a form of betrayal you know.

Yes I am well aware. But some things must be done.


So you just lied. You said you wouldn't betray a friend yet you willfully admit that you already do so by cheating.

To you short term pleasure is worth endangering your long-term relationships, I would say that makes you are rather sub-par friend.
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Betraying friends strictly goes against my morals, so no. I just hope they won't do anything that will make me feel inclined to betray.

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SoftImpaler said:
BannedAkko said:

Yes I am well aware. But some things must be done.


So you just lied. You said you wouldn't betray a friend yet you willfully admit that you already do so by cheating.

To you short term pleasure is worth endangering your long-term relationships, I would say that makes you are rather sub-par friend.

Some things must be done. You wouldn't understand due to your lack of experience with anything to do with friends and romantic relationships.
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you asked could? yes i could?
but would i? no i wouldn't,
and i have only two friends in this world really precious to me, other people i just called it acquaintance
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Sep 30, 2020 2:51 AM

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My close dear friends ? No. Just "friends" ? Obviously.
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Sep 30, 2020 3:11 AM
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It goes against my worldview to betray those I care for. I'd have to be under a lot of pressure to even consider it.
Sep 30, 2020 4:56 AM

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I can but I won't, hm.
I know how it feels to be in the receiving end and I wouldn't want to put anyone else through that crap.








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BannedAkko said:
SoftImpaler said:


So you just lied. You said you wouldn't betray a friend yet you willfully admit that you already do so by cheating.

To you short term pleasure is worth endangering your long-term relationships, I would say that makes you are rather sub-par friend.

Some things must be done. You wouldn't understand due to your lack of experience with anything to do with friends and romantic relationships.


I still don't understand your logic here. You said you wouldn't betray a friend yet you apparently make exceptions when "it must be done" But in your case the thing that "must be done" is simply an addiction that you repeatedly give into because you lack the will to do anything about it. So apparently the loyalty to your friends only goes so far as your comfort zone.

Keep in mind this is all for arguments sake and I don't necessarily believe everything you purport about yourself.
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