Toilet-bound Hanako-kun
| Well, anime-only people are impressed with the good art (or at least different art) and panel system (again kinda original) But manga readers seem disappointed with poor/mediocre animation, but agree that art might have sucked to get proper animation! The panel system is also killing the joy. So, what's your take that why the manga seems better than anime? There is a huge diff bw rating of anime and manga (at 31/01/20): 8.66 vs 7.77 |
| 'I have no bonds tying me down. That's why I can see things as they are!!' - Yugami |
moonzie said: i am very disappointed with the animation in this adaptation too. the voice acting is pretty good so its a shame that the animation is so stiff and motionless... most scenes consist of static frames followed my camera movements. im usually not one to notice this kind of stuff, but with hanako kun it's so constant i just can't concentrate while watching it. ive only seen people praising it until now though. i thought i was alone in this lol but i think they're mistaking visuals and animation. the anime is very pretty visually speaking, colors and everything are done beautifully, but the animation itself seems like a slideshow and im very close to dropping it and sticking to the manga... fingers crossed it'll get better. Yup, they should not have implemented panel-style, should have looked for an alternative. The panel-style is too static!! |
| 'I have no bonds tying me down. That's why I can see things as they are!!' - Yugami |
| I think it's good that they were able to adapt the art style very closely because it is a very unique art style. Of course as you said, the animation is very lacking. The manga feels more smooth and flowy in comparison to the anime, which isn't a very good thing considering manga is composed of still drawings and anime is supposed to be the exact opposite. One of the reasons people tend to look forward to anime adaptations is because they want to see the characters and story "come alive". The actors delivered more than enough, but I really cannot say the same about the animation. I was really wishing that the anime would do justice to the manga's art style before it came out, but now I think that it would've been better to tweak some parts of the art style to make movement easier to animate and make it look less stiff. I've only watched two of the episodes though, and my girlfriend said that episodes three and four has better animation than the first two. So I'm just hoping that the animation will get better as the series progresses, and if it doesn't I won't really complain. I'm glad this was able to get an anime adaptation even though it may not be the best out there. DA_Rialdo said: ^what this dude saidThey want to be faithful to the manga so much to the point that they basically adapting it panel by panel with the same movements, dialogues, and even angles of shot just like in the manga with barely any improvement to make the materials more interesting. They're basically adapting panel 1 and continue to panel 2,panel 3, 4, and so on without any animation to connect the two panels. |
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| Limited animation can be very nice if done correctly. In this case, this anime did it 'almost' right, because some still find it disturbing that animation is too static. I give score for the use of Limited Animation an 8/10. |
| Dr Stone started off like that too. But in time, animation got more and more. Give the staffs time to improve. I believe the fluidity of the animation will at least slightly improve before the end of the season, that is, if the schedule is good. |
| The artstyle is great.It's quite unique and the thivk brush strokes has its own appeal.The show has zero animation.I feel like watching a bunch of still and pretty images.Even characters mouth doesn't move in some scenes.The series doesn't seem to be action packed so I really don't know what's holding the studio back.Even Shokugeki no Souma seems to have better animation than Hanako. |
sonofbatmanrp13 said: The series doesn't seem to be action packed so I really don't know what's holding the studio back. What's holding the studio back is that they are adapting one hell of a detailed artstyle and making the character move became a difficult matter because the designs have so much lines and is complicate to draw them in a way that they just don't fall apart. |
Ottes said: Don't wanna come off as rude but it's studio fault for adapting a difficult manga.I am watching an anime not a slideshow.If they are not gonna have proper animation like character movements and mouth animation what's the point of adapting it.It just seems like a bunch of coloured manga panels.When One Punch s2 did that everyone got on the hate train and flamed the series but no one is bothered by Hanako because it's artstyle is crisp.sonofbatmanrp13 said: The series doesn't seem to be action packed so I really don't know what's holding the studio back. What's holding the studio back is that they are adapting one hell of a detailed artstyle and making the character move became a difficult matter because the designs have so much lines and is complicate to draw them in a way that they just don't fall apart. |
sonofbatmanrp13 said: Ottes said: Don't wanna come off as rude but it's studio fault for adapting a difficult manga.I am watching an anime not a slideshow.If they are not gonna have proper animation like character movements and mouth animation what's the point of adapting it.It just seems like a bunch of coloured manga panels.When One Punch s2 did that everyone got on the hate train and flamed the series but no one is bothered by Hanako because it's artstyle is crisp.What's holding the studio back is that they are adapting one hell of a detailed artstyle and making the character move became a difficult matter because the designs have so much lines and is complicate to draw them in a way that they just don't fall apart. This comparison is not even remotely okay. The thing with OPM that people are so underwhelemd is that OPM it is a series primarily focused on the action scenes which had a incredible animated previous season with a lot of awesome cuts. In season 2, the only good cuts are did by talented animators who fucked up their sleep schedules to give something good while JC Staff was picking up a LOT of projects at the same time and do not helping with the overall production (which was a disaster) While in Hanako's case, IT is intentional. They don't have production issues like in OPM. Andou Masaomi (the director) already did this type of adaptation before with Hakumei to Mikochi and Kuzu no Honkai. He sacrifice a lot of movement to give a more consistent design for the characters, well done backgrounds and at the same time, saving animators work so they can focus more on animate the key scenes (scenes like in the 3rd and 4th episode of Hanako) |
OttesFeb 4, 2020 12:04 PM
| Don’t blame the lack of animation on the art style, the animators are using comics panels on purpose. I don’t like the animation but it’s acceptable and i noticed some improvement in episode 3 |
| I personally don’t like the way it’s almost a slideshow of the manga but in color. But I understand why they did it and I don’t say it’s bad, it’s just not my thing. Hanako-kun’s voice actress does a great job tho, which is actually the only reason i continue watching. Otherwise i’d prefer reading the manga. But maybe they’ll surprise me in the end, EP 3 ans 4 indeed had some short scenes that were more... idk... more animated lol |
| it's intentional tho lol |
| The art's amazing enough to make up for it; nuff said. |
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todd2580 said: Ottes said: This comparison is not even remotely okay. The thing with OPM that people are so underwhelemd is that OPM it is a series primarily focused on the action scenes which had a incredible animated previous season with a lot of awesome cuts. In season 2, the only good cuts are did by talented animators who fucked up their sleep schedules to give something good while JC Staff was picking up a LOT of projects at the same time and do not helping with the overall production (which was a disaster) While in Hanako's case, IT is intentional. They don't have production issues like in OPM. Andou Masaomi (the director) already did this type of adaptation before with Hakumei to Mikochi and Kuzu no Honkai. He sacrifice a lot of movement to give a more consistent design for the characters, well done backgrounds and at the same time, saving animators work so they can focus more on animate the key scenes (scenes like in the 3rd and 4th episode of Hanako) >do not helping with the overall production lol they actually helped by providing help from studio Moe with the Centipede's CGI and provided help from Studio LAN to bring their webgun animators to help them out also it was Banadi Namco and TV Tokyo’s fault though J.C.Staff were just the animation studio that weren't have any choice regarding when it should be airing (since they weren't even in OPM S2's committee) Eh, anyway, my point was that OPM and Hanako's situation is totally different. You can't really compare schedule problems with artistic and totally >intentional< choices. |
todd2580 said: Ottes said: Eh, anyway, my point was that OPM and Hanako's situation is totally different. You can't really compare schedule problems with artistic and totally >intentional< choices. lol OPM S2 still have some artistic choices though with some intentional choices that were made accidentally from the tight schedule and anyways Hanako will be fine to me it's just some people want every anime to have detailed animation lmao and the anime industry isn't a peaceful place as they think Yeah definitely. The amount of productions nowadays that suffer with tight schedules or just overall bad management from the production commite is honestly scary (Well, NNT with Aniplex is a recently case that is just.. yikes) |
OttesFeb 10, 2020 9:12 AM
| late to the party but finally watched it last week after waiting for it to finish so I could binge and yeah I was just as disappointed.. the art is stunning but the lack of animation killed it for me. I was really looking forward to it, especially the action scenes getting animated but we basically got non of that lmao. kinda wish I didn't read the manga because anime onlys seemed to enjoy it and moved onto the manga but the other way around just didn't work |
| thats what i thought too at first: the art was so cool and stuff it was great. but then i got the manga and after awhile i went to rewatched the anime oh bOY OH BOY did i feel like i fantasied the art style too much. the voices were not what i wouldve gone with tbh |
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