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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- This is episode 22 on Crunchy Roll. |
| Breunschweig's death scene was much better than in the OVA, well done. In the OVA it was more like two men arguing, here Ansbach's mix of sadness, challanged loyalty and disgust, as well as Breunschweig's desperation, resignation and genuine fear and disbelief, made it much more memorable and subtle. More human and personal - genuine. Music was nice too. Reunthal's reaction to Flegel's challange - "dude wtf?" |
| older Farenheit Braunschwegh death was done very well |
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| yeah this adaptation did the emotions better. i could actually imagine myself in braunschweig's place when he realized he was going to die, even though this guy literally committed mass genocide two episodes ago |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
| I actually feel that this episode is inferior to the corresponding OVA episode in terms of execution. It seems as if this adaptation tries to get away with the minimum possible amount of dialogue and exposition, which makes each scene disjointed from each other, and also makes the universe feels small, despite the vast constellation of characters inhabiting in it. This is not just a problem of this episode, but also the previous ones as well. For example, Vice Admiral Fahrenheit, the only other competent admiral in the nobles' coalition, got practically zero screentime until this episode. What was he doing before then? We weren't told. Anyway, the battle itself is also rather bare-bones, and it is not clearly depicted how Reinhard's forces managed to occupy Geiersburg Fortress without any meaningful retaliation by the fortress defence system (which is supposed to be second only to Iserlohn Fortress). PS: I guess I'm biased but I think the OVA depicted Braunschweig's patheticness better than this version. |
| It's time for that next episode. |
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| Pathetic till the very end, good riddance. I'm quite concerned about the changing dynamics between Reinhard and Kircheis, tho. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| I also think that Braunschweig's death was handled better in this version. Still, very disappointed though how much they undermined the Westerland incident and Reinhard's way of handling the whole situation. They also remembered that Fahrenheit actually exists. Now I hope the next episode will do justice a certain moment. |
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| I wish we can have more scenes with Hilda :( In earlier episodes of the OVA (after her intro) I thought her real name is Fraulein Mariendorf, until I googled her name.... and got spoiled real hard (in a pleasant way) My man Admiral Fahrenheit. One of my favorite admirals on Imperial side. Captain Leopold Schumacher, at first I thought he just a random adjutant, but when his name appeared, I remembered his role in the OVA And Schneider is one of my favorite side character in the OVA too. He's a really good and loyal guy. Ahh, yes it's about time we will be able to use one of the main meme of LotGH regrettably |
| Ever so graceful, Braunschweig. |
| Man I'm just more reminded how lame the series is without the prequels in the main series just feels like Kircheis is friends with Reinhard because he wants to bang his sister but in the prequels they at least show how they hang for several years and have adventures and showing their ideals to each other. So feels earned if taking into account the prequels when their friendship is put in a struggle after this event but without it this doesn't feel earned since Kircheis hardly does anything in the main series to me |
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MagisterArcanum said: if we're just going by how pathetic he was, then the ova did it better but braunschweig was better portrayed as an actual human here. him not knowing that the wine was poison until it was right in front of him lead to a better setup where you could clearly see his desire to live override his desire to die a dignified death. that brief internal struggle where he considered drinking it himself may have been short but it did wonders for the character.I actually feel that this episode is inferior to the corresponding OVA episode in terms of execution. It seems as if this adaptation tries to get away with the minimum possible amount of dialogue and exposition, which makes each scene disjointed from each other, and also makes the universe feels small, despite the vast constellation of characters inhabiting in it. This is not just a problem of this episode, but also the previous ones as well. For example, Vice Admiral Fahrenheit, the only other competent admiral in the nobles' coalition, got practically zero screentime until this episode. What was he doing before then? We weren't told. Anyway, the battle itself is also rather bare-bones, and it is not clearly depicted how Reinhard's forces managed to occupy Geiersburg Fortress without any meaningful retaliation by the fortress defence system (which is supposed to be second only to Iserlohn Fortress). PS: I guess I'm biased but I think the OVA depicted Braunschweig's patheticness better than this version. |
Aure0linNov 29, 2019 5:28 PM
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
Gaerled said: Breunschweig's death scene was much better than in the OVA, well done. In the OVA it was more like two men arguing, here Ansbach's mix of sadness, challanged loyalty and disgust, as well as Breunschweig's desperation, resignation and genuine fear and disbelief, made it much more memorable and subtle. More human and personal - genuine. Music was nice too. Reunthal's reaction to Flegel's challange - "dude wtf?" A big fan of the original OVA, but you're right, they handled this scene much more poignantly here: Anschbach's pain and sense of disappointment was more palpable here. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
Deknijff said: Man I'm just more reminded how lame the series is without the prequels in the main series just feels like Kircheis is friends with Reinhard because he wants to bang his sister but in the prequels they at least show how they hang for several years and have adventures and showing their ideals to each other. So feels earned if taking into account the prequels when their friendship is put in a struggle after this event but without it this doesn't feel earned since Kircheis hardly does anything in the main series to me I too am hoping maybe they'll be able to go back and flush out Kircheis more. He deserves it Because we know they didn't with Wen-li and Jessica. |
| and the death of the old empire has finally arrived ,good episode as always sad disgusting man to the very end he got easy and even then he couldn't show a bit of dignity |
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broodo said: hmmm?Deknijff said: I too am hoping maybe they'll be able to go back and flush out Kircheis more. He deserves itMan I'm just more reminded how lame the series is without the prequels in the main series just feels like Kircheis is friends with Reinhard because he wants to bang his sister but in the prequels they at least show how they hang for several years and have adventures and showing their ideals to each other. So feels earned if taking into account the prequels when their friendship is put in a struggle after this event but without it this doesn't feel earned since Kircheis hardly does anything in the main series to me Because we know they didn't with Wen-li and Jessica. But Yang also has a prequel anime. Sure its not the whole season but like more than half |
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| gloruois episode! that fatass is out of the game! i wanna see what would happened if the other Admiral of the Empire would join Yang Wen-li! damn! 5/5. |
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| Some minor changes compared to the novel. But this time only re-arranging the order. (Which is better in the anime.) There was a flashback with Kircheis/Reinhard which they'll probably bring later in the next episodes. I think at the beginning this was fully the message of Annerose only - which also was described in the novel. But they had this later after the meeting of Kircheis and Reinhard (and their argument) at the same time he also received the message from Hilda. Reuenthal and Mittermeyer commenting on Oberstein and the no need for a numer two ... there was a minor change. In the novel thee were playing poker somewhere. Here it was on some train or something. Finally Reinhard sending Oberstein to take preparations against the other enemies in their back (Odin/Lichtenlade) in the novel was before the dialoge between Merkatz and Schneider. Other than that some small stuff at the end omitted - which probably will get a few seconds in the next episode. I really liked Schneider and Merkatz in the old OVA. And looking forward to see more of them again. This was one of my favorite scenes with Schneider showing loyalty preventing Merkatz from committing suicide and even staying at his side not taking the suggestion to go to Reinhard. Next episode would be for the last chapter of volume 2 in the novel. Where they might take 2 episodes to animate it. Thought he episode name - as seen in preview - is already the name of that chapter and you'd have expected to use that as the episode name for the last episode. Maybe the'll do stuff from the beginning of volume 3. My guess though is that they are spliting empire (first) and alliance in two episodes. Both had about half of last chapter in the novel - describing the aftermaths of the civil wars. |
LuthandoriusDec 1, 2019 2:05 AM
| I really liked how they handled Reinhardt allowing the civilian massacre here. In the OVA it felt too on the nose, like the narrative did its best to explain away and give excuses why he did that horrible thing. Here you see his horror before it happens, his anger and coldness after it happens, and it's all framed by Kircheis's presence saying - without saying it explicitly - "if only he was there". I like this kind of more subtle storytelling better than the slow pace with everything explicitly explained 5 times over in the OVAs. |
| A fitting death and end for all those nobles. The old Empire is dead, all hail Reinhard Lohengramm |
| “What do you do when there is an evil you cannot defeat by just means? Do you stain your hands with evil to destroy evil? Or do you remain steadfastly just and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?” ― Lelouch Vi Britannia |
| Old noble leader died as he lived. Pathetically. |
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| finally Reinhard defeats the nobles eh but will he be a good Emperor though? |
| Ok, I have to say it, I hated how they treated Reinhard with Westerland in this adaptation. In the OVA, when Oberstein advised they just let them nuke it, he didn't go with it instantly but said that he would make the final decision (stopping the nuking or not) at the last minute. But Oberstein lied to him about the time the attack was programmed, so it happened before Reinhard could make a decision. This was way better than Reinhard just turning "Oberstein" just like that... |
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| At least his dead was painless |
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