PokestarFan said: Yeah no shit that one watches porn to be aroused and violence simply to marvel at all the carnage without being aroused.Sphinxter said: I don't know about that; I think in most martial arts films and various forms of slasher horror the plot is a paper-thin glue to glue together an array of violent scenes. Or of course a lot of "funniest home video" shows that are essentially a collection of others falling over and hurting themselves. But then again, you watch violent scenes for the sense of horror, or maybe comedy. Going back to my original point, you most definitely do not jack off to this, which is why watching murder movies or martial arts movies or even funniest home videos is not the same as watching rape porn. I don't see how that is different. What makes it less bad that one enjoy seeing the violence and carnage but obviously does not get aroused because it's just violence as a spectacle? I doubt the Romans that went to see the gladiatorial combat were aroused at seeing one man fight another to the death but they still enjoyed the spectacle and bloodshed. |
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Sphinxter said: PokestarFan said: Yeah no shit that one watches porn to be aroused and violence simply to marvel at all the carnage without being aroused.But then again, you watch violent scenes for the sense of horror, or maybe comedy. Going back to my original point, you most definitely do not jack off to this, which is why watching murder movies or martial arts movies or even funniest home videos is not the same as watching rape porn. I don't see how that is different. What makes it less bad that one enjoy seeing the violence and carnage but obviously does not get aroused because it's just violence as a spectacle? I doubt the Romans that went to see the gladiatorial combat were aroused at seeing one man fight another to the death but they still enjoyed the spectacle and bloodshed. Yes but did they go out and murder people out on the streets? No. Also we can not compare to thousands of years ago because the societal norms of today did not exist back then |
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| Umm I guess it depends on what you near by "a lot". Are you watching ecchi anime obsessively? |
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PokestarFan said: And do those that watch rape porn go out and rape on the street?Sphinxter said: Yeah no shit that one watches porn to be aroused and violence simply to marvel at all the carnage without being aroused. I don't see how that is different. What makes it less bad that one enjoy seeing the violence and carnage but obviously does not get aroused because it's just violence as a spectacle? I doubt the Romans that went to see the gladiatorial combat were aroused at seeing one man fight another to the death but they still enjoyed the spectacle and bloodshed. Yes but did they go out and murder people out on the streets? No. Also we can not compare to thousands of years ago because the societal norms of today did not exist back then |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
| message=57712546] PokestarFan said: Yeah no shit that one watches porn to be aroused and violence simply to marvel at all the carnage without being aroused.Sphinxter said: I don't know about that; I think in most martial arts films and various forms of slasher horror the plot is a paper-thin glue to glue together an array of violent scenes. Or of course a lot of "funniest home video" shows that are essentially a collection of others falling over and hurting themselves. But then again, you watch violent scenes for the sense of horror, or maybe comedy. Going back to my original point, you most definitely do not jack off to this, which is why watching murder movies or martial arts movies or even funniest home videos is not the same as watching rape porn. I don't see how that is different. What makes it less bad that one enjoy seeing the violence and carnage but obviously does not get aroused because it's just violence as a spectacle? I doubt the Romans that went to see the gladiatorial combat were aroused at seeing one man fight another to the death but they still enjoyed the spectacle and bloodshed.[/quote] Gladiator tournaments were very disturbing, I suppose they weren't "aroused" and jerking off in the stands but its obvious with gladiator tournaments that they were just watching them to see people get killed. Not to mention the fact that people were actually killed in gladiator tournaments rather than it being fictional. There was no artistic merit to it whatsoever. I actually am kind of disturbed by people who seem to enjoy extreme, gratuitous gore on TV. That's part of the reason I gave Hellsing a bit of a low rating, because that seemed to be all it was. I can understand a story having a lot of violence if the plotline calls for it, or if it makes some kind of point. Kingdom has a lot of violence in it for example, but that's to show the carnage of ancient warfare. If you didn't show hundreds of soldiers getting killed, atrocities being committed against civilians, or fields of dead bodies it wouldn't be realistically portraying ancient warfare because that is what it looked like. I do get pissed off though when movies about modern warfare show dozens or hundreds of soldiers get killed because that's not really what modern warfare looks like. I wish they would portray it realistically instead of trying to dramatize it. |
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Recycled_Content said: So as long as you don't masturbate to death then no problem I don't know, masturbating yourself to death is a pretty impressive accomplishment. Talk about a great way to go out too lol. |
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| Dont watch ecchi all the time lol or else thats what you'll be thinking all the time |
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| So this: PokestarFan said: I will agree that I do watch a lot of ecchi anime, but is it really a problem if I watch ecchi anime only? Combined with this: PokestarFan said: I mean the friend happens to be the admin on an anime discord and I am a moderator and he says that my extreme ecchi watching is affecting my moderating decisions. and this: PokestarFan said: It's just that the server is for my school, so he wants to keep it at a level that's respectable for adults. But the problem is that no adult will be really looking. And also I happen to contribute to the problem by posting a lot of fanart that he deems is "innappropriate" just because 50% of the boob is showing. Even though it's like the sides or the top. Paints me a picture of someone who moderates an anime server, yet only posts ecchi content. Your friend got annoyed by ecchi content in an anime server because it isn't school-appropriate/friendly to the masses. It doesn't so much seem like your friend is annoyed by you watching the genre, but rather on what you post on the server due to these aspects. Since this is an anime server, which is more general, this encompasses non-ecchi posts too, and is thus resulting your friend wanting more sfw art on the server.This is something you should talk to your friend about in regards to the discord rules on your server and such. Personally speaking,while I don't agree fully with your friend(idc about being "inappropriate"), I can see different ways this can annoy a person. If a person kept posting (from his pov), just 'one type' of anime art I would get annoyed too. Kinda like a Harry Potter fan only posting HP-related content on a magical fantasy server. Technically, it does fall under the magic-fantasy genre, but there's so much more to such a general medium, y'know? The lack of variety turns me off quickly. However, this is your personal choice on what to do on this anime server. Of course, this is all presumptuous from what you're posting, so I can be wrong in my analysis.You're more than welcome to point any mistakes I made in those assumptions. And, to answer your original question, what you're watching for your own entertainment is none of my business. As long as you're not hurting anybody IRL, who cares? |
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| Doesn't matter at all when it comes to anime since, you know, it's just fictional entertainment. If that's your taste in anime, that's really nobody else's problem or business. Unless of course you're being a creep about it on the side and spamming it where people who don't want to see it have to suffer with it, but that's not really the focus of the thread I suppose. Just don't be a weirdo about it and you're fine. I personally don't usually like ecchi all that much, but if that's your thing, more power to you. Some of us like blood and gore, and some of us like boobs and butts. |
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| Absolutely not My favorite anime is the Monogatari series and that shit is raunchy as fuck lol No shame in it, just like what you like and move on |
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| It's better to embrace your inner pervert!!! Life is short if you like something engulf in it!!! After watching Miru Tights!! I realised i'm a perv as well!! And i'm going embrace the shit out of it =P Welcome to the pervert side!! |
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| If that's the genre you like the most then go ahead and keep watching it, |
| Nothing wrong with liking sexy anime girls |
PokestarFan said: I have a friend who believes that I watch too many ecchi anime. I will agree that I do watch a lot of ecchi anime, but is it really a problem if I watch ecchi anime only? I don't watch hentai because I feel there is no real plot/character development, so I stick to ecchi. However, I am not actually watching characters having sex, so is it wrong to like and watch a lot of ecchi anime? You're the worst affinity with me that I've ever seen :') There is no problem with watching/reading ecchi. There are all pretty bad (few exception, but it's 1/100) so it's waste of time if you look at this waste with you + 10 years eyes. But if you like it right now, don't care about that. If you still like ecchi in ten years tho.. start asking yourself questions. x) |
| Having in mind the manga I'm reading right now I can't really scold you on that, lol. It's totally okay to watch whatever you preffer, be it ecchi, cheesy horror, soap operas or whatever. Fact is, there's a lot of good ecchi manga/anime out there that I feel everyone SHOULD give it a try despite all things. Yes, sure, the plot synopsis of Ichigo 100% may come across as ridiculous and just a reason to have panties on the screen... but if you actually watch it you'll realize that behind the initial premise there's a pretty good story to discover. And there are situations where the ecchi can be used to actually improve on the story rather than just for fanservice, like the case with the manga Nozoki Ana that uses it to actually raise the tension, or the case with Ai Kora, that helps set how ridiculous and funny the entire thing is. I rather if people would just appreciate the ecchi stories that tell good stories and not just have good ecchi, but if you just wanna see some good ol anime titties then that's fine as well, who am I to judge, really? As long as you're not being obnoxious or annoying to other people, you can and should be allowed to watch whatever the Hell you want. It's your life, go have fun. |
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| It's not wrong, it's the better choice, you like it, why change it? Ecchi is the true salvation for mankind. |
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| I like some shows with ecchi in them like Danmachi but most of the time I see ecchi as being a necessary evil to sit through in order to watch some shows that are quirky or funny. I wouldn't want to only watch ecchi all the time. |
| Of course not, if you like what you see why should you stop? why should you feel bad? |
| Its totally fine as long as you're a good christian, who goes to church each Sunday and confesses about you sins of watching Ecchi. You're fine man. Its totally fine watching ecchi if thats what you're into. You're not the only person on MAL who is into those types of shows. We've all enjoyed ourselves a good ecchi anime at some point in our anime watching life. |
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SoverignMay 30, 2019 5:42 AM
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Soverign said: It is okay. We all have to wrestle with our inner daemons. Then let the bell ring and may the best win.~  |
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Sphinxter said: PokestarFan said: Not any more than the indication that murder is something one find entertaining to view.Watching rape porn means that rape is something that you find sexually arousing, which is a problem. Now if you were jacking off while watching said murder films, that would be a problem, but most people probably watch with food in their hands, not their dicks. Wherefore would jacking of be any worse than merely enjoying the sight of murder, arguments, or Starfleet luring the Romulans into a war with the Dominion by blowing up an ambassador's ship and framing the Dominion for it?That was a damn good DS9 episode; whole series would have been gold with slightly different casting..... There is nothing wrong with rape hentai. Like any other form of entertainment it is 100% fine as long as its kept in the world of fiction. I have seen plenty of kinky shit but I definitely don't feel like turning into a lizardman and making girls fly 10 feet into the air as I come inside them. The same goes for all of those grind house and horror films that are filled with blood and gore. People like to watch that stuff (dick in hand or not) but few actually want to see that happen in real life |
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DiscoDespot said: Sphinxter said: Not any more than the indication that murder is something one find entertaining to view. Wherefore would jacking of be any worse than merely enjoying the sight of murder, arguments, or Starfleet luring the Romulans into a war with the Dominion by blowing up an ambassador's ship and framing the Dominion for it? That was a damn good DS9 episode; whole series would have been gold with slightly different casting..... There is nothing wrong with rape hentai. Like any other form of entertainment it is 100% fine as long as its kept in the world of fiction. I have seen plenty of kinky shit but I definitely don't feel like turning into a lizardman and making girls fly 10 feet into the air as I come inside them. The same goes for all of those grind house and horror films that are filled with blood and gore. People like to watch that stuff (dick in hand or not) but few actually want to see that happen in real life Yes but my true problem with rape porn is that there are ugly bastards. #DeleteUglyBastards Also the girls seem to be in real pain sometimes, like for me it’s surreal how you can watch human suffering and not be effected. Although finding Euphoria early on really didn’t help. |
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| art of eros is amazing. Kinda makes "jealous" of women as well. If it's vanilla mixed with eros then it's just absolute bliss. So yeah..nothing wrong liking ecchi.. ecchi tends to be even hotter than bigger portion of hentai adaptions. but doujinshi or so... I read alooot. Animated hentai not that much in comparison. |
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Sphinxter said: PokestarFan said: And do those that watch rape porn go out and rape on the street?Yes but did they go out and murder people out on the streets? No. Also we can not compare to thousands of years ago because the societal norms of today did not exist back then murder is normalized in fiction. if an anime character has sexually harrased someone, he's disgusting. if an anime character is a murderer, hes "hot". thats how it is. there are tons of people who are attracted to the villian, people who love to see "hot bloody guys/girls going crazy". im pretty sure a lot of them are sexually aroused by it but even if they arent, they still enjoy watching people getting killed. |
PokestarFan said: DiscoDespot said: That was a damn good DS9 episode; whole series would have been gold with slightly different casting..... There is nothing wrong with rape hentai. Like any other form of entertainment it is 100% fine as long as its kept in the world of fiction. I have seen plenty of kinky shit but I definitely don't feel like turning into a lizardman and making girls fly 10 feet into the air as I come inside them. The same goes for all of those grind house and horror films that are filled with blood and gore. People like to watch that stuff (dick in hand or not) but few actually want to see that happen in real life Yes but my true problem with rape porn is that there are ugly bastards. #DeleteUglyBastards Also the girls seem to be in real pain sometimes, like for me it’s surreal how you can watch human suffering and not be effected. Although finding Euphoria early on really didn’t help. I never really understood ugly bastards either, we need more slick Dr. Hirasaka types... There are plenty of people who don't like horror shows, but its wrong to point fingers and declare people who enjoy things to be depraved simply because the characters in the show are in pain and its not your taste. There is nothing surreal about somebody enjoying a work of fiction (sexually or otherwise). I enjoyed Euphoria alot, so while that does put my sexual taste on the sadistic spectrum it's hardly morally wrong to enjoy it. |
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| Just watch whatever you want and fuck everyone else. Pleasing people like some of the ones in this thread should never be a priority if it'd mean self-repression and such. Also, +1 to Sphinxter and DiscoDespot in this thread in regards to their pro-fetishism arguments. I don't really have much to add to that so far, so I'll just toss my support behind what they've said. @PokestarFan If you're having trouble due to wanting to post about ecchi stuff and that's making problems with some of your friends on your school server, I run a club for these types of anime/manga on this site. We're the largest of our theme and, yes, we do have an active Discord Server. You can come join up with us on our Discord and use that as an outlet to post about this stuff. It's most likely a better environment for these things than your school server is. |
ManabanMay 30, 2019 11:51 AM
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Manaban said: Thank you so much man. People like you are the MVPJust watch whatever you want and fuck everyone else. Pleasing people like some of the ones in this thread should never be a priority if it'd mean self-repression and such. Also, +1 to Sphinxter in this thread. I don't really have much to add to that so far, so I'll just toss my support behind what he's said. @PokestarFan If you're having trouble due to wanting to post about ecchi stuff and that's making problems with some of your friends on your school server, I run a club for these types of anime on this site. We're the largest of our theme and, yes, we do have an active Discord Server. You can come join up with us on our Discord and use that as an outlet to post about this stuff. It's most likely a better environment for these things than your school server is. |
My biggest regret: Reading all 200+ chapters of Kanojo, Okarishimasu |
| No, unless it's the only genre you watch, then you should switch it up a bit and diversify. This goes for any genre. Too much of the same of same thing often leads to a burnout. I too like my fanservice and hentai shows. |
KruszerMay 31, 2019 4:05 AM
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Kruszer said: No, unless it's the only genre you watch, then you switch it up a bit and diversify. This goes for any genre. Too much of the same of same thing often leads to a burnout. I too like my fanservice and hentai shows. Ok if I want to switch out ecchi I would want to watch comedy-esque shows. Do you know any? |
My biggest regret: Reading all 200+ chapters of Kanojo, Okarishimasu |
PokestarFan said: Manaban said: Thank you so much man. People like you are the MVPJust watch whatever you want and fuck everyone else. Pleasing people like some of the ones in this thread should never be a priority if it'd mean self-repression and such. Also, +1 to Sphinxter in this thread. I don't really have much to add to that so far, so I'll just toss my support behind what he's said. @PokestarFan If you're having trouble due to wanting to post about ecchi stuff and that's making problems with some of your friends on your school server, I run a club for these types of anime on this site. We're the largest of our theme and, yes, we do have an active Discord Server. You can come join up with us on our Discord and use that as an outlet to post about this stuff. It's most likely a better environment for these things than your school server is. Well, thank ya. Here's the invite link to our Discord server if you want it. Would be good to meet some other ecchi fans, I'd imagine :P |
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Manaban said: well I joined but MEE6 wants verification. Lemme just leave my profilePokestarFan said: Thank you so much man. People like you are the MVP Well, thank ya. Here's the invite link to our Discord server if you want it. Would be good to meet some other ecchi fans, I'd imagine :P |
My biggest regret: Reading all 200+ chapters of Kanojo, Okarishimasu |
| I guess the only way it could possibly be wrong is if you pirate it? Otherwise nah. |
NthDegree said: How is pirating it so bad? Plus, I’m not asking on method of acquisition, but rather the category or genre.I guess the only way it could possibly be wrong is if you pirate it? Otherwise nah. |
My biggest regret: Reading all 200+ chapters of Kanojo, Okarishimasu |
PokestarFan said: NthDegree said: How is pirating it so bad? Plus, I’m not asking on method of acquisition, but rather the category or genre.I guess the only way it could possibly be wrong is if you pirate it? Otherwise nah. Well, pirating is illegal, so it is wrong from the legal perspective. But obviously my main point was that I have to bend over backwards to find a scenario where it's wrong. |
DiscoDespot said: Surely it is the night universal consensus that DS9 is the crème de la crème that has aged like fine wine? Sphinxter said: Not any more than the indication that murder is something one find entertaining to view. Wherefore would jacking of be any worse than merely enjoying the sight of murder, arguments, or Starfleet luring the Romulans into a war with the Dominion by blowing up an ambassador's ship and framing the Dominion for it? That was a damn good DS9 episode; whole series would have been gold with slightly different casting..... |
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NthDegree said: Yes but I highly doubt I’m going to get arrested.PokestarFan said: How is pirating it so bad? Plus, I’m not asking on method of acquisition, but rather the category or genre. Well, pirating is illegal, so it is wrong from the legal perspective. But obviously my main point was that I have to bend over backwards to find a scenario where it's wrong. |
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foxsuprise said: So this: PokestarFan said: I will agree that I do watch a lot of ecchi anime, but is it really a problem if I watch ecchi anime only? Combined with this: PokestarFan said: I mean the friend happens to be the admin on an anime discord and I am a moderator and he says that my extreme ecchi watching is affecting my moderating decisions. and this: PokestarFan said: It's just that the server is for my school, so he wants to keep it at a level that's respectable for adults. But the problem is that no adult will be really looking. And also I happen to contribute to the problem by posting a lot of fanart that he deems is "innappropriate" just because 50% of the boob is showing. Even though it's like the sides or the top. Paints me a picture of someone who moderates an anime server, yet only posts ecchi content. Your friend got annoyed by ecchi content in an anime server because it isn't school-appropriate/friendly to the masses. It doesn't so much seem like your friend is annoyed by you watching the genre, but rather on what you post on the server due to these aspects. Since this is an anime server, which is more general, this encompasses non-ecchi posts too, and is thus resulting your friend wanting more sfw art on the server.This is something you should talk to your friend about in regards to the discord rules on your server and such. Personally speaking,while I don't agree fully with your friend(idc about being "inappropriate"), I can see different ways this can annoy a person. If a person kept posting (from his pov), just 'one type' of anime art I would get annoyed too. Kinda like a Harry Potter fan only posting HP-related content on a magical fantasy server. Technically, it does fall under the magic-fantasy genre, but there's so much more to such a general medium, y'know? The lack of variety turns me off quickly. However, this is your personal choice on what to do on this anime server. Of course, this is all presumptuous from what you're posting, so I can be wrong in my analysis.You're more than welcome to point any mistakes I made in those assumptions. And, to answer your original question, what you're watching for your own entertainment is none of my business. As long as you're not hurting anybody IRL, who cares? Meh, he opened up to us and I got permission to make it public - his friend was making it an issue of "Ecchi is for incels" and that was the crux of the issue between the two. Basically, that same accusation/conflation that gets hurled around this community all of the time. Im Westen nichts Neues. Depressing that people are fucking pricks, but what can be done when people want to cripple themselves with these kinds of fears, I guess. |
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Manaban said: I mean he’s also saying I should ask my guidance counselor for help with my “ecchi addiction” foxsuprise said: So this: Combined with this: and this: Paints me a picture of someone who moderates an anime server, yet only posts ecchi content. Your friend got annoyed by ecchi content in an anime server because it isn't school-appropriate/friendly to the masses. It doesn't so much seem like your friend is annoyed by you watching the genre, but rather on what you post on the server due to these aspects. Since this is an anime server, which is more general, this encompasses non-ecchi posts too, and is thus resulting your friend wanting more sfw art on the server.This is something you should talk to your friend about in regards to the discord rules on your server and such. Personally speaking,while I don't agree fully with your friend(idc about being "inappropriate"), I can see different ways this can annoy a person. If a person kept posting (from his pov), just 'one type' of anime art I would get annoyed too. Kinda like a Harry Potter fan only posting HP-related content on a magical fantasy server. Technically, it does fall under the magic-fantasy genre, but there's so much more to such a general medium, y'know? The lack of variety turns me off quickly. However, this is your personal choice on what to do on this anime server. Of course, this is all presumptuous from what you're posting, so I can be wrong in my analysis.You're more than welcome to point any mistakes I made in those assumptions. And, to answer your original question, what you're watching for your own entertainment is none of my business. As long as you're not hurting anybody IRL, who cares? Meh, he opened up to us and I got permission to make it public - his friend was making it an issue of "Ecchi is for incels" and that was the crux of the issue between the two. Basically, that same accusation/conflation that gets hurled around this community all of the time. Im Westen nichts Neues. Depressing that people are fucking pricks, but what can be done when people want to cripple themselves with these kinds of fears, I guess. |
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