Why do anime usually have such poor worldbuilding?

Feb 27, 2019 8:50 AM

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For the same reason Hollywood companies keeps betting in cgi explosions in 2018/2019. They thing that's what people want and cut everything else. All I want is characters and worldbuilding.

Feb 27, 2019 8:57 AM

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KreatorX said:

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Re:Zero has some of the best world building ever. Much better than Made in Abyss imo. It's just more subtle. So far let me name some pretty big things that have been explained that ya may have missed.
Flugels Tree
Kararagi Empire
Literally the entire history of Lugunica
The Witches
The way the merchants operate in this world.
The dragon
The Alstrea family
The white whale
The witch cult
Beatrice Library

All of these and probably dozens more contribute to the world of ReZero. Each one is very significant and has a long history that contributes to the story. Sure the anime just mentioned some of these without more inspection. But it's only on its first season. I mean Rezero has it's own alphabet for God's sake. And the spells have their own rules and structure for saying them. It's not just saying some generic cool sounding term like in sds.

True, but all of those come later in the novels. The first season didn't delve into that and nor do we know the full story behind them. The season's main target was to setup one of its main characters (Subaru), and then hint at setting up the other (Emilia) at the very end.

In short, not saying there wasn't any but if you dig through the subtleties in the first season alone, more questions were raised than answers. This has mostly to do with the author being advised to shift the world building to later volumes by his editor. So OP's statement of 'lack' of worldbuilding is true up to this point.

I completely disagree with this assessment. These are all parts of the world that are sprinkled in subtlety. Just because they aren't answered within 25 episodes doesn't mean there's a lack of world building. The fact that many of these things show up in the first season allow them to be further expanded upon and set up for future seasons. They give the world a feeling of having lore even if it isn't explained. There's just a sense that the world Subaru lives in, is an actual world with actual history. That's world building. Whether we know everything about it or not is irrelevant. Even if no further season is made at all. ReZero still has plentiful world building. Because there are still things within this world that exist and function independently of the protagonist. There's still hints at a past history.

Feb 27, 2019 8:59 AM

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First off, here: Recommended Essays Exploring Actually Excellent World-Building

Second, to paraphrase Brandon Sanderson, there are generally three main aspects to a story: character, plot, and setting/world. If you have to sacrifice one to have more time to make the other two better, sacrificing/dumbing down on the setting is usually the safer choice. You can still have a successful story.

Case in point, Harry Potter. Surprised? Good world-building does not always mean interesting setting. It just means that the world is consistent with its own rules and everything can make sense in light of everything else. Harry Potter isn't. As one fan puts it:

(https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/aldjqh/what_kind_of_teenage_bullshit_probably_happened/efedpqc/)

Rowling didn't do much worldbuilding before writing the first book, and even as the series went on the world grew organically based on the needs of the characters in the book, without too much thought on how it would affect the wider wizarding world.

So something like a timeturner made some sense for Hermione in the context of the book, but was enormously problematic for the wider world and were quietly forgotten about until they were "all" destroyed in a later book.

Whatever the magical system that enables the Ministry see what all underages do when not at Hogwarts makes sense for Harry's relationship with the Dursleys, that system mysteriously disappears when it comes to the Ministry being able to detect the mass use of very illegal spells by underground Death Eater organizations because that would make for a shorter series.

Rowling started out writing a relatively lighthearted coming of age story about kids at a magic British boarding school, and had to change it over time into the epic fantasy series it ended up becoming

The question now is, are you, @DrakoWiz, actually asking for good world-building or just interesting settings? Because you're probably not going to like my answer if it's just the former.

My answer would be Log Horizon, an MMORPG isekai. Why? Because it creatively uses MMORPG mechanics.

MMORPG mechanics allow for a pretty strong backbone in constructing a hard magic system. In fact, it’s one of the easiest ways of establishing a hard magic system, really.

Hard magic systems, as opposed to soft magic systems, have clearly defined rules so that the reader can understand and predict them, in accordance with Brandon Sanderson’s first of three laws of magic: “An author's ability to solve conflict with magic is directly proportional to how well the reader understands said magic.”

This allows the reader/viewer to participate in the storytelling because the reader/viewer now has a clearer idea of what the characters can do and if he/she is quick enough, he/she can predict what the characters could and would do based on their capabilities. Quick, what does an MMORPG offers you? It offers relatively clearer defined rules that you could understand if you play RPGs or reading the basic straight-forward rules of the game genre.

This also puts the onus of solving problems not on the magic itself but on the character and how he/she utilizes said magic spell. The series, for example, has a character use a barrier spell as impromptu stairs and another character use a bind/root spell as a high damage whip. The spell is Thorn Bind Hostage. It wraps the target in five thorny vines and every vine an ally of the caster cuts deal 1000 HP worth of damage. The spell is a support spell for a squishy support character who's weak in direct combat. But now that they're not in a game anymore, what if someone uses that vine as a whip? Well, now you have a 1000 HP per hit vine, turning said support character into a fearsome damage dealer.

It also clears Sanderson's Second Law of Magic: "The limitations of a magic system are more interesting than its capabilities. What the magic can't do is more interesting than what it can."

One, their magic is limited by mana and by what the magic were specifically designed to do when they were in a game and not in an alternate reality that matches the game. They can't just pull out a new magic. They have to repurpose their preset magic spells; as I pointed above.

The other limitation is the fact that in a typical MMORPG, players are divided into several unique classes, each with its own strengths, weaknesses, and gameplay. This allows players to find and excel in the playstyle they favor. It also means that they can't do everything. Each one can do a couple of things really well. They have to work together because they can't accomplish a lot of the things the game/world expects them to accomplish by going at it alone. The very nature of RPG classes restricts and limits them.

Then we have Sanderson's Third Law of Magic: "Expand on what you have already, before you add something new. A brilliant magic system for a book is less often one with a thousand different powers and abilities -- and is more often a magic system with relatively few powers that the author has considered in depth."

Here's more exploration of the Third Law (and anyone who has completed Season 1 of Log Horizon can attest to how the series does the things mentioned here):

https://coppermind.net/wiki/Sanderson%27s_Laws_of_Magic

Extrapolation

It is important to consider the effects that a magic will have on a world. If for example your magic can create food out of thin air, what will that cause, what will happen? How will it affect trade, politics, warfare, education and social norms? Asking these questions and working out what effects your magic system will add depth to your world.

Interconnection

Another important point is to interconnected. Try to make the powers of a character seem like a coherent whole rather than separate abilities. In Mistborn, for example, magics were designed to be what thieves would want and then the powers named accordingly. Tying your powers together thematically is an important part of worldbuilding and expands the world, rather than adding to it.

Streamlining

Streamlining is also important in any magic system. Combining pre-existing magics and powers is often better than adding new ones. A different culture reacting to a magic entirely differently than what has been shown so far, is often better than a culture with its own unrelated magic system. For example: a simple heat-generating magic may be used by different cultures in very different ways. A warlike culture might use it for assault or for forging weapons, a peaceful one for heating and preparing food, for merchants for making products, nomads for powering transportation and so on.

Remember, however, not to streamline too far as that will make the single culture or character seem too packed and might decrease their plausibility.

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Thank you VERY VERY MUCH for the detailed answer. I feel I got a lot from this, kudos mate!

And I guess I did not formulate myself well. I do not mind unique concepts or generic worlds, if they WORK together as you said. The MMORPG battle system can work if the world is set in a game, but I hate it when the authors just use MMORPG magic systems in worlds which are supposed to not have anything game related to them, if you get what I mean. It's just laziness from the author's side. For example I like the battle systems in HxH and FMAB, cause they are all connected and play a fundamental part of the settings whole world.

Feb 27, 2019 9:00 AM

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2ego said:

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sure the "district or region" is fleshed out very well but we are talking about "world building" here, we literally havent heard anything at all from rest of the world even in manga, all of top 100000000 (lol) heroes as well as every villain ever exists in just one city (?) thats not what you call a good "world building".

Yes totally fucking find an anime that shows EVERY part of the world, that's not worldbuilding, the sole city in mha is easily taken as THE WORLD, since if that's how it is in the city - it is in the world, this implies to EVERY this type of anime.

i am not implying that every anime should show what is happening in every other corner of the world but atleast pretend the rest of the world exists like you gave the example of naruto, the story revolves around just 1 village but we know there exists other countries and there is even a while continent of samurai's but in mha the sun the moon everything is in one fucking city and thats stupid.

Feb 27, 2019 9:01 AM

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MauledDivine said:

KreatorX said:

True, but all of those come later in the novels. The first season didn't delve into that and nor do we know the full story behind them. The season's main target was to setup one of its main characters (Subaru), and then hint at setting up the other (Emilia) at the very end.

In short, not saying there wasn't any but if you dig through the subtleties in the first season alone, more questions were raised than answers. This has mostly to do with the author being advised to shift the world building to later volumes by his editor. So OP's statement of 'lack' of worldbuilding is true up to this point.

I completely disagree with this assessment. These are all parts of the world that are sprinkled in subtlety. Just because they aren't answered within 25 episodes doesn't mean there's a lack of world building. The fact that many of these things show up in the first season allow them to be further expanded upon and set up for future seasons. They give the world a feeling of having lore even if it isn't explained. There's just a sense that the world Subaru lives in, is an actual world with actual history. That's world building. Whether we know everything about it or not is irrelevant. Even if no further season is made at all. ReZero still has plentiful world building. Because there are still things within this world that exist and function independently of the protagonist. There's still hints at a past history.

You misunderstood my post. I never said there wasn't any worldbuilding in the series. The novels do the world-building, emphasis on the word -> building<- .

Yes, the world feels vast but I am not talking about 'feelings' here, mind you.

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Feb 27, 2019 9:47 AM

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KreatorX said:

MauledDivine said:

I completely disagree with this assessment. These are all parts of the world that are sprinkled in subtlety. Just because they aren't answered within 25 episodes doesn't mean there's a lack of world building. The fact that many of these things show up in the first season allow them to be further expanded upon and set up for future seasons. They give the world a feeling of having lore even if it isn't explained. There's just a sense that the world Subaru lives in, is an actual world with actual history. That's world building. Whether we know everything about it or not is irrelevant. Even if no further season is made at all. ReZero still has plentiful world building. Because there are still things within this world that exist and function independently of the protagonist. There's still hints at a past history.

You misunderstood my post. I never said there wasn't any worldbuilding in the series. The novels do the world-building, emphasis on the word -> building<- .

Yes, the world feels vast but I am not talking about 'feelings' here, mind you.

You literally agreed with OP about the lack of world building. Anyways world building is all about the construction of a fictional world in order to make it feel like real world with different qualities. So yes world building is all about how you feel. You need to be able to feel that the world the character is in is realistic in respect to it's own laws and isn't just some pretty fictional setting. As I stated even without dwelling into the novels there's plenty of things within the anime itself that set up the world around Subaru. Mind you that it doesn't go into much depth but that itself is irrelevant. You can create a fictional world without going too far in depth into everything. Darksouls comes to mind. A lot of things within darksouls come down to personal hypothesis, yet no one would say it's world isn't built well. World building is about creating a world that feels independent of a protagonist. ReZero does this, independent of the novels.

Feb 27, 2019 9:50 AM

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Striker-3649 said:

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Yes totally fucking find an anime that shows EVERY part of the world, that's not worldbuilding, the sole city in mha is easily taken as THE WORLD, since if that's how it is in the city - it is in the world, this implies to EVERY this type of anime.

i am not implying that every anime should show what is happening in every other corner of the world but atleast pretend the rest of the world exists like you gave the example of naruto, the story revolves around just 1 village but we know there exists other countries and there is even a while continent of samurai's but in mha the sun the moon everything is in one fucking city and thats stupid.

I am positive they said ALL around the world people gained quirks, while the main association is in the MAIN, THAT city, meaning only that city is relevant. Why would they attempt to expand their world if it would only make it messier, if they did it, they would be obligated to create parts revolving the expanded world-- that's irrelevant.

Feb 27, 2019 9:50 AM

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Tokyo Ghoul arguably has the best worldbuilding IMO.

Feb 27, 2019 10:10 AM

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2ego said:

Striker-3649 said:

i am not implying that every anime should show what is happening in every other corner of the world but atleast pretend the rest of the world exists like you gave the example of naruto, the story revolves around just 1 village but we know there exists other countries and there is even a while continent of samurai's but in mha the sun the moon everything is in one fucking city and thats stupid.

I am positive they said ALL around the world people gained quirks, while the main association is in the MAIN, THAT city, meaning only that city is relevant. Why would they attempt to expand their world if it would only make it messier, if they did it, they would be obligated to create parts revolving the expanded world-- that's irrelevant.

from what i understand keeping the story in a single classroom isnt worldbuilding, sure they mentioned 80% of world population gained quirks and thats where they got it wrong, if u mention it this clearly then why the hell every event ever just happens in a single classroom? Take durarara for example, thats the kind of world building (kinda) that mha tried but failed horribly.

Feb 27, 2019 10:49 AM

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DrakoWiz said:
If I have to suffer through another insert generic fantasy MMORPG inspired setting ala Goblin Slayer, Shield Hero, Isekai Smartphone, Re;Zero, TenSura, Konosuba, and so on, I'll go crazy!

Here you got a medium which on paper you can write about absolutely freaking EVERYTHING, and still most of the authors prefer to stick to their copy paste generic fantasy RPG world with zero to no effort. It's not even the case that they can't do it if they try! Look at Spice & Wolf, Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere, or even Zero no Tsukaima. All of which feature some kind of distinct attempt of lore and worldbuilding going on, which doesn't boil down to insert stupid gaming mechanics or terminology and be done!

It's not even the case only with Light Novels, modern shounen series also suffer from it!We went from Naruto One Piece and Bleach to MyHeroAcademia, Fairy Tail, and Black Clover!

PROVE ME WRONG!
Am I the only one who is annoyed at this?

If you don't like "generic fantasy MMORPG inspired settings", then...stop watching them?

I mean, why are you "suffering through" them? Is someone tying you to a chair and forcing you to watch them?

(also they're more likely based on RPGs than MMORPGs)

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Feb 27, 2019 11:04 AM

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And I guess I'll take the other part of the bait and bite.

Fantasy shows whose worldbuilding I enjoyed:

* Magic Knight Rayearth - an isekai story that's most definitely not part of the recent fad, given how old it is. It's also perhaps most notable for what happens at the end of the story.

* Chaika the Coffin Princess - You are an out-of-work mercenary, scratching the barrel to find money for food in a time of peace following a war. Some weirdo claiming to be the daughter of the defeated villain king contracts you. Some good guys are after you. Are the good guys really that good? And to start things off, you kill a unicorn that is hell bent on killing you.

* The Tower of Druaga - For this show they took an old, old arcade game with barely any plot, and built almost an entire new world around it. The dumb idealistic hero character is actually mocked for it as the world turns out to be a lot more complicated than he thought. There are at least four sides to the conflict, and multiple characters frequently keep their cards close to their chest through multiple instances of intrigue. Classic RPG character class concepts have a number of new twists placed on them -- including a wizard whose spells are cast using magical golf clubs. (Oh, and his caddy is actually a useful party member.)

FWIW, I specifically picked stuff that differed from the standard. Because, for many people, "poor"/"bad"/etc. simply means "I've seen this done before", and this thread seems no different.

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Feb 27, 2019 11:12 AM

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i would argue that not all series need world building to begin with, but of course many would greatly benefit from it. Especially in the fantasy genre.

I think a lot of manga and light novel authors are just bad writers honestly. Theyre just fanboys of anime/manga they consumed when they were kids and then when they got older, they just make knock off versions of the stuff they liked as children. But often, they dont fully understand what made those older series work and only remembers the big flashy or emotional moments. Example would be all of DBS honestly but especially how we keep getting new forms but never with any tension making everything the show has to offer feel flat.
World Building is typically subtle, so i imagine a lot of the scrubby writers never ever consider it

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Feb 27, 2019 11:24 AM

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MauledDivine said:

KreatorX said:

MauledDivine said:

KreatorX said:

MauledDivine said:
Re:Zero has some of the best world building ever. Much better than Made in Abyss imo. It's just more subtle. So far let me name some pretty big things that have been explained that ya may have missed.
Flugels Tree
Kararagi Empire
Literally the entire history of Lugunica
The Witches
The way the merchants operate in this world.
The dragon
The Alstrea family
The white whale
The witch cult
Beatrice Library

All of these and probably dozens more contribute to the world of ReZero. Each one is very significant and has a long history that contributes to the story. Sure the anime just mentioned some of these without more inspection. But it's only on its first season. I mean Rezero has it's own alphabet for God's sake. And the spells have their own rules and structure for saying them. It's not just saying some generic cool sounding term like in sds.

True, but all of those come later in the novels. The first season didn't delve into that and nor do we know the full story behind them. The season's main target was to setup one of its main characters (Subaru), and then hint at setting up the other (Emilia) at the very end.

In short, not saying there wasn't any but if you dig through the subtleties in the first season alone, more questions were raised than answers. This has mostly to do with the author being advised to shift the world building to later volumes by his editor. So OP's statement of 'lack' of worldbuilding is true up to this point.

I completely disagree with this assessment. These are all parts of the world that are sprinkled in subtlety. Just because they aren't answered within 25 episodes doesn't mean there's a lack of world building. The fact that many of these things show up in the first season allow them to be further expanded upon and set up for future seasons. They give the world a feeling of having lore even if it isn't explained. There's just a sense that the world Subaru lives in, is an actual world with actual history. That's world building. Whether we know everything about it or not is irrelevant. Even if no further season is made at all. ReZero still has plentiful world building. Because there are still things within this world that exist and function independently of the protagonist. There's still hints at a past history.

You misunderstood my post. I never said there wasn't any worldbuilding in the series. The novels do the world-building, emphasis on the word -> building<- .

Yes, the world feels vast but I am not talking about 'feelings' here, mind you.

You literally agreed with OP about the lack of world building. Anyways world building is all about the construction of a fictional world in order to make it feel like real world with different qualities. So yes world building is all about how you feel. You need to be able to feel that the world the character is in is realistic in respect to it's own laws and isn't just some pretty fictional setting. As I stated even without dwelling into the novels there's plenty of things within the anime itself that set up the world around Subaru. Mind you that it doesn't go into much depth but that itself is irrelevant. You can create a fictional world without going too far in depth into everything. Darksouls comes to mind. A lot of things within darksouls come down to personal hypothesis, yet no one would say it's world isn't built well. World building is about creating a world that feels independent of a protagonist. ReZero does this, independent of the novels.

Alright, the discussion is getting pretty semantic. The reason I left out "feeling" is because then it quickly veers into subjective territory.

I can feel plenty of things within something such as Need for Speed or Dirt 3 given its sprawling locales and exotic locations and or rise of street racers and cops armed with hi-tech cars. The comparison with Dark Souls wouldn't hold well with Re-Zero since that game literally allows you to explore and interact as much as possible, and I compare that with reading more of the novels for Re-Zero. Not from the perspective of a protagonist but from the perspective of a viewer/gamer.

Lastly if my earlier post wasn't clear, I should have phrased better. OP said the world-building was poor. He didn't say the world building was non-existent. It wasn't to his liking. I can easily say it to his/her face that the world building really takes off in the novels but he posted this in an anime discussion section, so I restrict my judgement to the anime only. The first season adds a lot of hidden details and lore here and there (which I picked up on repeated viewings, because I like the show), however the context isn't known until later.

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Feb 27, 2019 11:29 AM

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Now and Then, Here and There does a fantastic job of worldbuilding, aside from the awkward linguistic question of how Shu and Sara understand each other, let alone everyone else understanding them.

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Feb 27, 2019 11:34 AM

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Striker-3649 said:

2ego said:

I am positive they said ALL around the world people gained quirks, while the main association is in the MAIN, THAT city, meaning only that city is relevant. Why would they attempt to expand their world if it would only make it messier, if they did it, they would be obligated to create parts revolving the expanded world-- that's irrelevant.

from what i understand keeping the story in a single classroom isnt worldbuilding, sure they mentioned 80% of world population gained quirks and thats where they got it wrong, if u mention it this clearly then why the hell every event ever just happens in a single classroom? Take durarara for example, thats the kind of world building (kinda) that mha tried but failed horribly.

What are you talking about? The thing is MHA didn't try to make a giant worldbuilding, that's why it was objectively impossible for it to fail, so, your point is a fallacy. In second season if I'm correct, they shew more parts, other Heroes, remember MHA is far from done, meaning it COULD potentially still have plans for the bigger world.

Feb 27, 2019 11:41 AM

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2ego said:

Striker-3649 said:

from what i understand keeping the story in a single classroom isnt worldbuilding, sure they mentioned 80% of world population gained quirks and thats where they got it wrong, if u mention it this clearly then why the hell every event ever just happens in a single classroom? Take durarara for example, thats the kind of world building (kinda) that mha tried but failed horribly.

What are you talking about? The thing is MHA didn't try to make a giant worldbuilding, that's why it was objectively impossible for it to fail, so, your point is a fallacy. In second season if I'm correct, they shew more parts, other Heroes, remember MHA is far from done, meaning it COULD potentially still have plans for the bigger world.

last time i heard the author said the manga is halfway done so i am not seeing any "world building" besides UA coz i dont think the author is as good as oda or togashi, imo mha has one of the worst if not the worst world building in the genre, all i can do is hope for the best.

Feb 27, 2019 11:42 AM

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GlennMagusHarvey said:

DrakoWiz said:
If I have to suffer through another insert generic fantasy MMORPG inspired setting ala Goblin Slayer, Shield Hero, Isekai Smartphone, Re;Zero, TenSura, Konosuba, and so on, I'll go crazy!

Here you got a medium which on paper you can write about absolutely freaking EVERYTHING, and still most of the authors prefer to stick to their copy paste generic fantasy RPG world with zero to no effort. It's not even the case that they can't do it if they try! Look at Spice & Wolf, Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere, or even Zero no Tsukaima. All of which feature some kind of distinct attempt of lore and worldbuilding going on, which doesn't boil down to insert stupid gaming mechanics or terminology and be done!

It's not even the case only with Light Novels, modern shounen series also suffer from it!We went from Naruto One Piece and Bleach to MyHeroAcademia, Fairy Tail, and Black Clover!

PROVE ME WRONG!
Am I the only one who is annoyed at this?

If you don't like "generic fantasy MMORPG inspired settings", then...stop watching them?

I mean, why are you "suffering through" them? Is someone tying you to a chair and forcing you to watch them?

(also they're more likely based on RPGs than MMORPGs)

GlennMagusHarvey said:
And I guess I'll take the other part of the bait and bite.

Fantasy shows whose worldbuilding I enjoyed:

* Magic Knight Rayearth - an isekai story that's most definitely not part of the recent fad, given how old it is. It's also perhaps most notable for what happens at the end of the story.

* Chaika the Coffin Princess - You are an out-of-work mercenary, scratching the barrel to find money for food in a time of peace following a war. Some weirdo claiming to be the daughter of the defeated villain king contracts you. Some good guys are after you. Are the good guys really that good? And to start things off, you kill a unicorn that is hell bent on killing you.

* The Tower of Druaga - For this show they took an old, old arcade game with barely any plot, and built almost an entire new world around it. The dumb idealistic hero character is actually mocked for it as the world turns out to be a lot more complicated than he thought. There are at least four sides to the conflict, and multiple characters frequently keep their cards close to their chest through multiple instances of intrigue. Classic RPG character class concepts have a number of new twists placed on them -- including a wizard whose spells are cast using magical golf clubs. (Oh, and his caddy is actually a useful party member.)

FWIW, I specifically picked stuff that differed from the standard. Because, for many people, "poor"/"bad"/etc. simply means "I've seen this done before", and this thread seems no different.

Simple, I'm a masochist bby. Thancks for the recs btw.

Striker-3649 said:

2ego said:

Striker-3649 said:

2ego said:

Striker-3649 said:

2ego said:

Striker-3649 said:

2ego said:

Striker-3649 said:

2ego said:
Naruto
One Piece
Hunter x Hunter (2011)
Boku no Hero Academia
91 Days
Holy heck I just noticed that the only ones with a good worldbuilding are the popular known ones...except 91 Days. Anyway, these have a great worldbuilding.

my hero academia and world building? Sorry but its laughable

What are you talking about? The Hero society, etc everything is nice, has a nice worldbuilding. Popular doesn't equal bad, & of course the other way around.

sure the "district or region" is fleshed out very well but we are talking about "world building" here, we literally havent heard anything at all from rest of the world even in manga, all of top 100000000 (lol) heroes as well as every villain ever exists in just one city (?) thats not what you call a good "world building".

Yes totally fucking find an anime that shows EVERY part of the world, that's not worldbuilding, the sole city in mha is easily taken as THE WORLD, since if that's how it is in the city - it is in the world, this implies to EVERY this type of anime.

i am not implying that every anime should show what is happening in every other corner of the world but atleast pretend the rest of the world exists like you gave the example of naruto, the story revolves around just 1 village but we know there exists other countries and there is even a while continent of samurai's but in mha the sun the moon everything is in one fucking city and thats stupid.

I am positive they said ALL around the world people gained quirks, while the main association is in the MAIN, THAT city, meaning only that city is relevant. Why would they attempt to expand their world if it would only make it messier, if they did it, they would be obligated to create parts revolving the expanded world-- that's irrelevant.

from what i understand keeping the story in a single classroom isnt worldbuilding, sure they mentioned 80% of world population gained quirks and thats where they got it wrong, if u mention it this clearly then why the hell every event ever just happens in a single classroom? Take durarara for example, thats the kind of world building (kinda) that mha tried but failed horribly.

What are you talking about? The thing is MHA didn't try to make a giant worldbuilding, that's why it was objectively impossible for it to fail, so, your point is a fallacy. In second season if I'm correct, they shew more parts, other Heroes, remember MHA is far from done, meaning it COULD potentially still have plans for the bigger world.

last time i heard the author said the manga is halfway done so i am not seeing any "world building" besides UA coz i dont think the author is as good as oda or togashi, imo mha has one of the worst if not the worst world building in the genre, all i can do is hope for the best.

I second this. MHA doesn't have any worldbuilding going on because it isn't set in an another world. It's just our world but where 80% of the population has superpowers. You wanna know other shows that did this better? OPM, Scryed, Needless, Darker than Black, Deadman Wonderland.
The setting is also extremely limited to only Japan for some unexplained reason. It has an urban setting, like most superhero comics, so it doesn't need to have worldbuilding.

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