Attack on Titan
| The least good episode was the 4th episode from this season, and I'd still give this episode a 7/10. Almost every episode from the first season I gave a 10/10, so I belive you're definitely right |
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| Every episode of aot beats any ep of other anime. Every episode is an art, and gods creation. |
| I think episode 1 of this current season was just "meh" but my criticism is more to do with the pacing and how they literally cut stuff I thought was important from the manga because people complained about the manga's arc. Like the whole scene of Hanji torturing pastor Nick, I felt, illustrated a side of her people needed to understand. It was all left out. Erwin had some backstory also cut from the first and second episode that I am hoping will be shown later because it was interesting to know how he chose his career over love. Otherwise that "meh" episode had some amazing anime sequences involving Levi. |
| Almost every episode from the first season I gave a 10/10, so I belive you're definitely right |
| Haha you’re funny |
| You forgot to mention nearly all of Season 2 as well. |
| None of the episodes have been bad, but the "coolness" factor definitely dropped after season 1. Go back and watch the first season and look at all of the really epic moments that get a lot of attention. The show has spent much more time progressing the story in the past two seasons, and as a price they haven't indulged in cool moments like they did before. Episode 11 of this 3rd season was really good though, up to season 1 standards. |
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ghoulcustomer said: None of the episodes have been bad, but the "coolness" factor definitely dropped after season 1. Well season 2 has a lot of cool parts too. Especially the battle between Eren and Reiner (both in titan form). And of course season 1 has more cool scenes than season 2: it has more than twice the episodes. Season 3 instead has relatively less cool moments because the rhythm is a lot slower, there's way less action than in the previous seasons. That said, the definition of a "cool scene" is purely subjective so I don't expect us to reach an agreement... I just wanted to point some aspects to be considered |
astrogonza said: ghoulcustomer said: None of the episodes have been bad, but the "coolness" factor definitely dropped after season 1. Well season 2 has a lot of cool parts too. Especially the battle between Eren and Reiner (both in titan form). And of course season 1 has more cool scenes than season 2: it has more than twice the episodes. Season 3 instead has relatively less cool moments because the rhythm is a lot slower, there's way less action than in the previous seasons. That said, the definition of a "cool scene" is purely subjective so I don't expect us to reach an agreement... I just wanted to point some aspects to be considered I think you're misinterpreting my use of the word "cool" here, which is understandable since it's a vague word. I just use it to refer to a really powerful moment, like the flashback of the instructor in the most recent episode. It was a scene that had depth beyond what was being explicitly stated, and it finished with a dope shot of him looking at the training equipment in the sunset. It has nothing to do with action, it was just a cool and deep moment. The scene in season two when Reiner outs himself as a titan without realizing it was really great too; that season wasn't much of a downgrade now that I look back. It's mostly been season three that's lacked really deep and intense scenes. |
ghoulcustomerOct 8, 2018 10:30 PM
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| Lol there's plenty of good episodes, but the actually good ones can be pretty good. |
ghoulcustomer said: I think you're misinterpreting my use of the word "cool" here, which is understandable since it's a vague word. Yep, I've misinterpreted ^^" Thank you for the explanation |
| AoT is just an average shounen. It hasn't any "bad" episodes btw, but this doesn't mean that this is a masterpiece or a good anime. The rating of the entire AoT should be between 6 and 7. |
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| Out of all released episodes to that point I don't think any episode would deserve a rating below 5/10 at least. So that's a NO from my side. |
| The only episode I dislike is the first episode from this season. Why? Because it doesn't fit at all in the show. Where season 2 episode 26 fits perfectly with episode 25, episode 38 doesn't fit at all with episode 37. That goes from the opening shot to the events present and jumped leaving a lot of people wondering what happened in the mean time and how much time passed. Besides that, all the weak one have been around a (5/6)/10. |
Snkmasterpiece said: SheevPalpatine said: AoT is just an average shounen. It hasn't any "bad" episodes btw, but this doesn't mean that this is a masterpiece or a good anime. The rating of the entire AoT should be between 6 and 7. Oooo we have a hater I disagree aot is definitely a masterpiece, and if you call it a basic shounen you didn't watch pass season 1. I even read the manga dude xD 80% of AoT is about action. Typical shounen. And I do not hate AoT. If I would hate it, then I don't watch it. But I watch it. I'm just not blind. This show is far away from masterpieces like Steins;Gate for example. The character development is lame, especially for the main characters (Armin is somewhat ok, but Mikasa and Eren literally has no personalities). The writing is also a weak point of the show. The story is good, and interesting, but the build up of the story is really bad. |
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SheevPalpatine said: Snkmasterpiece said: Oooo we have a hater I disagree aot is definitely a masterpiece, and if you call it a basic shounen you didn't watch pass season 1. I even read the manga dude xD 80% of AoT is about action. Typical shounen. And I do not hate AoT. If I would hate it, then I don't watch it. But I watch it. I'm just not blind. This show is far away from masterpieces like Steins;Gate for example. The character development is lame, especially for the main characters (Armin is somewhat ok, but Mikasa and Eren literally has no personalities). The writing is also a weak point of the show. The story is good, and interesting, but the build up of the story is really bad. If you think 80% of AoT is shounen, then you are not reading it right. There are great action scenes, but 90% of the anime is about the story, about the world Isayama is trying to build, and the mysteries our protagonists are trying to solve. Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's a trashy shounen series. Out of the hundreds of series I've watched, AoT is one of the very few shows I'm interested enough to read the source material, and probably the only show I'm still hooked to AFTER reading the source material. |
kchan13 said: XXXXXXXXXIII said: If you think 80% of AoT is shounen, then you are not reading it right. There are great action scenes, but 90% of the anime is about the story, about the world Isayama is trying to build, and the mysteries our protagonists are trying to solve. Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's a trashy shounen series. Out of the hundreds of series I've watched, AoT is one of the very few shows I'm interested enough to read the source material, and probably the only show I'm still hooked to AFTER reading the source material. the term 'shounen' doesn't mean the show is bad though, and aot is definitely a shounen series as it focuses a lot on the action scenes and its directed to teenagers rather than adults. just look at its page, it will say 'shounen' right there. a show being a shounen doesn't mean it can't have a plot either, it means it focuses less on the progression since its main goal is to 'wow' the audience with fight scenes I talked about the anime. The manga is well written. The anime is not. I'll explain it later |
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Snkmasterpiece said: Lmao wtf? Season 3 is literally the deepest and explores society/politics instead of mindless titan battles. You are simple minded, im sorry. You don't understand what deep means clearly. You only want more action.. My dude, the only reason the first season was even remotely enjoyable was because of those intense and brutal action scenes. Now that they're trying to go into these half-assed mystery and political arcs, the entire show has gone to complete shit. Calling SnK "deep" is the most laughable thing that I have ever heard. If you want to experience a good shounen with great action, mystery, depth and political themes, watch or read something like FMA. |
Snkmasterpiece said: Zahyo said: My dude, the only reason the first season was even remotely enjoyable was because of those intense and brutal action scenes. Now that they're trying to go into these half-assed mystery and political arcs, the entire show has gone to complete shit. Calling SnK "deep" is the most laughable thing that I have ever heard. If you want to experience a good shounen with great action, mystery, depth and political themes, watch or read something like FMA. I did and aot is so much deeper. Half assed politics and mystery? Lol? Sure. The mystery was literally there since the beginning and it's one of the biggest reason for aot being so great. If you don't like it it's fine the fact that you only liked action proves you are action junkie. I don't expect you to enjoy a thematical heavy series as much as a mindless shounen. And FMA goes no where near in depth about politics. Not to mention how much more realistic the politics of aot were. The writing of politics in FMA was just lazy and shallow. How on Earth can you unironically say that FMA is shallow and lazy in comparison to AOT? There is absolutely ZERO thematical depth to be found in AOT. The characters are lazily written, their motivations are completely nonsensical, and the "mystery" elements are completely mishandled. And saying that I'm an action junkie and don't appreciate thematically heavy shows? Wow, you must be a troll. Come back and tell me that after you've watched anything in my favorites. Even the worst arcs of HxH have more depth than anything AOT has to offer. |
Snkmasterpiece said: Zahyo said: My dude, the only reason the first season was even remotely enjoyable was because of those intense and brutal action scenes. Now that they're trying to go into these half-assed mystery and political arcs, the entire show has gone to complete shit. Calling SnK "deep" is the most laughable thing that I have ever heard. If you want to experience a good shounen with great action, mystery, depth and political themes, watch or read something like FMA. I'm not here to change your mind but learn to respect other opinions. Just because you think FMA is a peak of anime it doesn't mean everyone will think so. After reading Marley arc of air every show feels mindless to me. And I'm not trying to change your opinions either. Everyone can like what they like, but don't say something completely out of pocket like "you don't like thematically heavy shows" when that is literally all I like lmao. |
| Yes and I didn't even need to watch more than 3 episodes of the very first season to come to this conclusion. |
Snkmasterpiece said: Zahyo said: How on Earth can you unironically say that FMA is shallow and lazy in comparison to AOT? There is absolutely ZERO thematical depth to be found in AOT. The characters are lazily written, their motivations are completely nonsensical, and the "mystery" elements are completely mishandled. And saying that I'm an action junkie and don't appreciate thematically heavy shows? Wow, you must be a troll. Come back and tell me that after you've watched anything in my favorites. Even the worst arcs of HxH have more depth than anything AOT has to offer. You presented no argument at all to prove your point. All i see her is salt and hate. Let's look at god for example. Its 10 times better handled in aot. It gives people free will to think and everyone has a different definition on it. Some think of it as a devil, some look at it as the being who has the most power etc. There is a bigger mystery surrounding it and its constantly reitnroduced which parallels our society. The fact that the world is so grey where no one is right or wrong and history is written only by a winer. Both hxh and FMA are absolutely brainless to me after reading Marley arc. Eren is killing civilians and getting more and more distant from people he loved, there are multiple parties plotting and playing mindgames while the reader is in denial about what's going on. The themes of who is the real monsters, what's the meaning of life, reality of war etc. It doesnt shy away about exploring facist ideals and controversial topics. Its a socio-political masterpiece that has much higher level of mature writing compared to any other shounen. Every time i reread aot i get mindblow by how much i missed. You obviously didnt watch s3 or read the manga. This discussion is meaningless. Here i can do the same shit you did. Fmab characters are one dimensional, the mystery is non existent, the politics, powers system and plot is basic and lazy etc. "wOw yOu mUsT bE TRoll" Yeah. Really mature, do you always tell that to people that disagree with you? Learn to accept other opinions until then dont @ me. You just embarrassed yourself by admitting you are a action junkie that didn't find depth in this show. But hey that just proves its deep. The true depth cant be comprehended by shallow thinkers. Dude, I called you a troll because you called me an action junkie who doesn't appreciate shows with thematic depth. Again, watch ANYTHIng on my favorites list and see if you still want to push that argument. So lets get into the nitty gritty of this discussion. First of all, I've watched the majority of what the anime has to offer and I tried reading the manga but couldn't continue because of how utterly ridiculous it becomes. From what I've heard from I large group of active readers though, is that I'm not missing much. So let's compare AOT and FMA (which I HIGHLY doubt you have ever read or watched, considering your lack of legitimate arguments against it). Let's start with character motivation. The Elric brothers are on a quest to reincarnate their mother who's death they feel responsible for. However, they must abide by the rules of Equivalent exchange to do this, or else they lose their humanity. They battle the morality of using the malevolent philosopher stones to complete their goal, although the philosopher's stone is inherently evil. This debate between right and wrong is symbolizes the true conflict that exists in the deepest depths of every human. Now for AOT character motivations. Eren: "MY MOM GOT EATEN SO NOW I HAVE TO GET REALLY MAD AND WANT TO KILL ALL OF THESE TITANS BUT I'M A WHINY LITTLE BITCH" Mikasa: "Eren used the power of plot armor to save my life as a child so now I must become a yandere and devote my entire existence to him because he's the main character and needs a love interest who can calm him when he has random anger attacks." Sounds like a pretty generic shounen action flick to me. Next, power systems. In FMA employs Alchemy, in which you must abide by the rules of equivalent exchange to do battle with. However, alchemy's original intent was not to be used for violence. This creates a huge dilemma for each character, who must battle their demons stemming from the death they have caused by using their alchemy. In AOT, certain characters can turn into big ass titans because why the fuck not. Oh and Eren also happens to be a half-titan, because he's the main character and the main character has to be powerful. There is ABSOLUTELY ZERO depth in the functionality of the AOT world and you are extremely mistaken if you think otherwise. Finally, lets discuss the villain in each series. I could go on and on about each one of the 7 sins, Kimblee or Father in FMA. How the brothers must defeat and/or wok together with each sin induces them to commit sin themselves, directly contrasting their goals and motivations of trying to accomplish their goals without violence. The main villain Father tries to become a god by ridding himself of all sin, yet loses his humanity in the process which ultimately leads to his downfall. The idea that all humans, good or bad, are sinful is presented throughout FMA. In AOT, the antagonists are, get this guys, the titans and the government. Why is the government a villain? Because they're rich and powerful and don't want to relinquish that power to the masses. Everything in AOT is basic and is elementary when compared to the thematic density of FMA. You are kidding yourself if you genuinely believe AOT is a deep series when there are far superior anime and manga out there that can satisfy your pseudo-intellectual desire to experience something "deep." AOT should stick to what it does best: Action. The ridiculous mystery and political elements are far inferior to that of FMA, and I've seen numerous anime (lots of which are in my favorites) that go way further than FMA in that department. AOT is chump change in comparison. I could also go into how the motifs of racism, prejudice, and unjustified violence against the powerless add to the depth of FMA, but I don't have all the time nor energy to delve that deep into its philosophy. You are an extremely shallow thinker if you genuinely believe FMA is inferior and lazy and should try watching some genuinely good shit. |
Snkmasterpiece said: Zahyo said: And I'm not trying to change your opinions either. Everyone can like what they like, but don't say something completely out of pocket like "you don't like thematically heavy shows" when that is literally all I like lmao. Oh you complain about that yet you are willing to say there is no depth to be found in aot. What do you expect me to call you? A open-minded individual? This statement is incorrect from both subjective and objective point of view. I really don't have time for this. I said what i had to and i strongly believe you are just salty. Again, you were the one who tried to claim I don't appreciate thematically deep anime, which is the furthest thing from the truth. Don't try to take the high road when you know you're assumptions are incorrect. It'll just make you look more brainless and naive than you've already made yourself out to be. |
| Not so many bad episodes but the plot armor is ridiculous. |
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| How in the hell did this thread ended with the comparison of evnagelion, monster vs a battle shounen ? lmao |
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