| First of all, it baffles me how does the LN won any award at all. What do people even thing about? It even ranked higher than ReZero... (not saying that Re:Zero is masterpiece, but it still has more going for it that this). Anyway, first the characters. Oh man, I almost hate all of them. Like how much of a wimp main character can get? It's like his entire purpose in the series is to be pushed by all the female characters. All the new female characters introduced are there to do the same. Then the lolis. I do not have much problem with them actually. The only thing that doesn't sit with me is that they play shogi so well at their age. But then again, I don't know much about shogi. The "sister"... oh man, I probably hate her the most. I don't know what her backstory is, but the treatment she gives to MC is just painful to watch. It's like that is her only character trait. I can also include the new yandere character here, who has almost same purpose as her. The story. I have heard that this series represents shogi world very realistically, but I can't believe real shogi world is like that (the point I made in "loli" section applies here). I subconsciously compare this and Sangatsu and the only thing I see is how this is much worse than it. Maybe I fail to see something here, but for now, I can barely give this 5/10, which is lowest of the low for me. I would already drop it, but I haven't dropped anything and don't plan to yet. |
| Dude this series/LN is basically like Eromanga-sensei, but with shogi. |
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Swagernator said: Dude this series/LN is basically like Eromanga-sensei, but with shogi. And that's why I don't understand how it won anything, but probably I shouldn't be surprised by Japan at this point. |
| I hope japan declare this the best light novel ln 2018, just to see how salty people can get |
| I Soooooooooooooooooooooo much agree with everthing, but you didnt mention Iko being obnoxious. And you didnt mention Best mother of 2018 and you didnt mention beta father who cant say anything back to his wife :v and you didnt mention constant KOU KOU KOU and you didnt mention that all girls think they possess MC, girls he is not your possession, let him live his life >_< and finally you didnt mention the most important thing(maybe thats why its so popular) every episode has a "harem time" and mostly it takes the most amount of screentime. Also i feel that author of this mastepiece has the same personality as MC, its just my gut that tells me, i feel like that's how author of THIS would look like. |
thriach said: I hope japan declare this the best light novel ln 2018, just to see how salty people can get Nothing will surprise me anymore. |
Hirugiku said: I Soooooooooooooooooooooo much agree with everthing, but you didnt mention Iko being obnoxious. And you didnt mention Best mother of 2018 and you didnt mention beta father who cant say anything back to his wife :v and you didnt mention constant KOU KOU KOU and you didnt mention that all girls think they possess MC, girls he is not your possession, let him live his life >_< and finally you didnt mention the most important thing(maybe thats why its so popular) every episode has a "harem time" and mostly it takes the most amount of screentime. Also i feel that author of this mastepiece has the same personality as MC, its just my gut that tells me, i feel like that's how author of THIS would look like. I'm not sure if your reply is sacrasm or not, considering you gave the show a 10. |
begija said: Hirugiku said: I Soooooooooooooooooooooo much agree with everthing, but you didnt mention Iko being obnoxious. And you didnt mention Best mother of 2018 and you didnt mention beta father who cant say anything back to his wife :v and you didnt mention constant KOU KOU KOU and you didnt mention that all girls think they possess MC, girls he is not your possession, let him live his life >_< and finally you didnt mention the most important thing(maybe thats why its so popular) every episode has a "harem time" and mostly it takes the most amount of screentime. Also i feel that author of this mastepiece has the same personality as MC, its just my gut that tells me, i feel like that's how author of THIS would look like. I'm not sure if your reply is sacrasm or not, considering you gave the show a 10. those are my true feelings, smiley face |
@begija I think Wasshio explained enough, but I am going to add one more thing. To mention that these are popular trends in japan and editorial houses will go for what's popular in japan. So if otaku fans votes for it, it will become popular. You all, including you @begija, are judging this series with the western mindset and are forgetting one little thing: These series? They are made in Japan and FOR Japan. You think they care what we westerner's opinions are? If Japan fandom supports and pays and like it, that's what it matters for them. We might find it absurd, but that's how it works there. And we are not even paying money to see these things either; so the only thing we can do is just drop and continue on because no matter what our opinion is; Japan wont care. We should be giving thanks that at least we have something to see, because it would be easier for them to close the gate entirely, and believe me, they already had done it (some companies). We westerners only see 10% of what they market over there. |
begija said: First of all, it baffles me how does the LN won any award at all. What do people even thing about? It even ranked higher than ReZero... (not saying that Re:Zero is masterpiece, but it still has more going for it that this). [...] The story. I have heard that this series represents shogi world very realistically, but I can't believe real shogi world is like that (the point I made in "loli" section applies here). I subconsciously compare this and Sangatsu and the only thing I see is how this is much worse than it. Because of how it is versed in shogi. There is a lot of references to professional shogi and so on. (Here is a blog where they pointed out the references of the first volume, for example.) And there was the story of Sota Fujii which gave Ryuuou no Oshigoto a lot of advertisement. |
| the lolis make me cringe especially the main child. |
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| you could've summed it up far quicker than that.... THEY DON'T LEWD THE LOLIS or for the most part any other FINE ASS woman in this anime... although theres been odd sexy shot or scene, theres just not enough |
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Wasshio said: RandomCritic said: @begija I think Wasshio explained enough, but I am going to add one more thing. To mention that these are popular trends in japan and editorial houses will go for what's popular in japan. So if otaku fans votes for it, it will become popular. You all, including you @begija, are judging this series with the western mindset and are forgetting one little thing: These series? They are made in Japan and FOR Japan. You think they care what we westerner's opinions are? If Japan fandom supports and pays and like it, that's what it matters for them. We might find it absurd, but that's how it works there. And we are not even paying money to see these things either; so the only thing we can do is just drop and continue on because no matter what our opinion is; Japan wont care. We should be giving thanks that at least we have something to see, because it would be easier for them to close the gate entirely, and believe me, they already had done it (some companies). We westerners only see 10% of what they market over there. I think this is well enough to support the argument. But well yeah, this series may as well be appealing for the Japanese mostly. It doesn't mean people outside of the country can't enjoy the series (I enjoyed it and I'm not even Japanese), but there's going to be a chance that the people outside of the country won't find this pleasing, thus having multiple complaints about it. Heck Japan's system and laws works very different compared to every other country, and the point is that countries will have their ways of teachings as well as morality, laws/rules, school systems, and the list goes on. It may be a complaint from a westerner's side which is fine. But let's not ignore that Japan may find it appealing due to how the series portrays itself or the way it handles shogi. Which is one of the main appeal of the series. Which, some of the complaints from OP's end is looking from a westerner's mindset (again, fine), but then questions as well how these things are handled in the show for Japan's perspective, and how could Japan accept these type of things in the industry. And even then with the "realism" statement we can apply that not only with this, to take it a bit further we can apply it to any genre or any anime available at the stock, and how people will perceive and look at a series' narrative. Whatever series doesn't look realistic to you, it might be for others. Same in vise versa. At the end of the day, it's a matter of who is watching it and the experiences as well amongst those things. I'm just applying a bit towards everything to stretch it a bit. The shogi part is fine actually, as I said, I only can't believe child at the age of 9 can be this good at it. As for my complaints, I believe that nowadays, anime in Japan is not made solely for Japanese anymore, because they must have realised how profitable western market must be. Especially for this series, who apparently won some awards, I'm pretty sure author would be aware that there is market outside of Japan. It maybe just Japanese authors don't know what western market likes, which makes your points valid. Still, from western market perspective, my points also still stands. |
| No, this anime is definitely not realistic even in the slightest. Ai hasn't been playing very long and she can beat people miles ahead of her just by turning on an autism mode in her head? Totes realistic my duder. The MC also holds a title equal to the Meijin in importance despite not knowing how to use Ranging Rook effectively-- a massive weakness that would be exploited to hell and back if this were a realistic series. Does it matter though? Probably not. The lolis are peak cuteness and the characters are all quite endearing in their own ways (yes, even Ginko.) |
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TheRandomCritic said: We should be giving thanks that at least we have something to see, because it would be easier for them to close the gate entirely, and believe me, they already had done it (some companies). We westerners only see 10% of what they market over there. Lol, that is a straight up lie. I been to Japan for an extended period of time recently, there is nothing over there that isn't available for a consumer in the west. Sure there is novels and manga that haven't been translated to english because it isn't enough money in translating anything that isn't top grossing, but they are available for purchase in Japanese. TheRandomCritic said: And we are not even paying money to see these things either; so the only thing we can do is just drop and continue on because no matter what our opinion is; Japan wont care. You might not be paying to watch anything, but there are plenty of us that both was it at licensed sites and buy merchs. I wonder if that thought was spawned from the the act of you illegally watching it yourself. |
begija said: First of all, it baffles me how does the LN won any award at all. What do people even thing about? It even ranked higher than ReZero... (not saying that Re:Zero is masterpiece, but it still has more going for it that this). Anyway, first the characters. Oh man, I almost hate all of them. Like how much of a wimp main character can get? It's like his entire purpose in the series is to be pushed by all the female characters. All the new female characters introduced are there to do the same. Then the lolis. I do not have much problem with them actually. The only thing that doesn't sit with me is that they play shogi so well at their age. But then again, I don't know much about shogi. The "sister"... oh man, I probably hate her the most. I don't know what her backstory is, but the treatment she gives to MC is just painful to watch. It's like that is her only character trait. I can also include the new yandere character here, who has almost same purpose as her. The story. I have heard that this series represents shogi world very realistically, but I can't believe real shogi world is like that (the point I made in "loli" section applies here). I subconsciously compare this and Sangatsu and the only thing I see is how this is much worse than it. Maybe I fail to see something here, but for now, I can barely give this 5/10, which is lowest of the low for me. I would already drop it, but I haven't dropped anything and don't plan to yet. I cannot help if you disliked the characters since that is your opinion. However, for some of your other points, I can help to clarify a bit. The lolis playing so good is not too unbelievable. Just this year, Sota Fujii won the Kisei and Oi title to become one of the best in the world at the age of 17. If a real person can become one of the best at 17, it is not too far-fetched to believe that a ten-year-old might play it very well. None of the Ais have beaten the pros yet in an even match so it isn't like a random girl just came out of nowhere to obliterate every single pro. Also, to how the LN won awards, I think it's because of the way it portrayed its characters and shogi as a whole. While the first few volumes are not too focused on the characters, I think the later ones handle then very well and develop them greatly. The anime had skipped a lot from the LN and cover the first few volumes so it's understandable why you would think the LNs are bad too, but as someone who read them, I found them to be very enjoyable. |
AdizcoolNov 17, 2020 3:36 AM
Adizcool said: begija said: First of all, it baffles me how does the LN won any award at all. What do people even thing about? It even ranked higher than ReZero... (not saying that Re:Zero is masterpiece, but it still has more going for it that this). Anyway, first the characters. Oh man, I almost hate all of them. Like how much of a wimp main character can get? It's like his entire purpose in the series is to be pushed by all the female characters. All the new female characters introduced are there to do the same. Then the lolis. I do not have much problem with them actually. The only thing that doesn't sit with me is that they play shogi so well at their age. But then again, I don't know much about shogi. The "sister"... oh man, I probably hate her the most. I don't know what her backstory is, but the treatment she gives to MC is just painful to watch. It's like that is her only character trait. I can also include the new yandere character here, who has almost same purpose as her. The story. I have heard that this series represents shogi world very realistically, but I can't believe real shogi world is like that (the point I made in "loli" section applies here). I subconsciously compare this and Sangatsu and the only thing I see is how this is much worse than it. Maybe I fail to see something here, but for now, I can barely give this 5/10, which is lowest of the low for me. I would already drop it, but I haven't dropped anything and don't plan to yet. I cannot help if you disliked the characters since that is your opinion. However, for some of your other points, I can help to clarify a bit. The lolis playing so good is not too unbelievable. Just this year, Sota Fujii won the Kisei and Oi title to become one of the best in the world at the age of 17. If a real person can become one of the best at 17, it is not too far-fetched to believe that a ten-year-old might play it very well. None of the Ais have beaten the pros yet in an even match so it isn't like a random girl just came out of nowhere to obliterate every single pro. Also, to how the LN won awards, I think it's because of the way it portrayed its characters and shogi as a whole. While the first few volumes are not too focused on the characters, I think the later ones handle then very well and develop them greatly. The anime had skipped a lot from the LN and cover the first few volumes so it's understandable why you would think the LNs are bad too, but as someone who read them, I found them to be very enjoyable. Ten year old winning is STILL too far fetched. Difference between 10 years old and 17 years old is too big. It's like comparing these kids to Rei Kiriyama (if you have seen Sangatsu). No way they are at his level. |
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