| it's mal "everything is overrated" |
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Zoce_ said: _Poochyena_ said: overrated doesnt mean bad. so these show might be bad or good. it doesnt matter. same with term underratedAw, but I genuinely thought Trigun was amazing. Cowboy Bebop was eh. It was a show. I'm not feeling Neon Genesis Evangelion either but I'm only on episode 5. I think you can't generalize all classics cause they're just shows like anything else and obviously everyone has unique taste. I agree just cause a show is old, that doesnt mean it's necessarily good, but I also agree just cause a show's old it's not necessarily bad. Well, underrated compared to what? The current hyped stuff wich reaches 9.3 mean score every season before falling into oblivion? Old shows are rated lower than these, their hype died down decades ago. Compared to Gintama? Old shows are often all bundled into a single entry so no sequel effect. Without a solid explanation, I'll just dismiss it as another "old anime suck, you nostalgia fags" thread. |
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Zoce_ said: like i feel people forgive them because: 1- they are old 2- they were the first of thier kind 3- it influenced a lot of shows 4- so much effort and money were put into them compared to today's shows .... etc i have seen many classics. many from 1970's and 1980's. like i have about 10 people who share similarities to my taste, we almost like the same thing. but when it comes to classics stuff i find them rate those higher than what they deserve. not just these people, many many people in mal do this as if they feel obligated and dont want to break the hivemind. but when it comes to stuff that are better, they dont rate it as much the classics. for me i dont care wether a show was made 3 years aho or now. if it is good, i will rate it accordingly. the only thing that i ignore when rating or displaying my opinion about those classics is the animation. i dont care if the animation is old or new. what i care about is the story and characters. what do you think? do you feel the same? If you want to convince anyone that old series are not as good as newer shows, then make good and strong arguments with examples showing it. Show us why characterization/plot etc. in LoGH, Macross, Eva, etc. is not as good as in newer shows. No one is going to change their opinion just because you feel that these shows are overrated, but if you have good arguments that show specifically why characterization/plot, etc. is not so good, people may agree with you or may change/reconsider their opinion. If people do not agree, then you may end up having an interesting discussion if they can present their own counterarguments. You need to give us examples of newer shows that people do not rate so highly and explain why it is so good and better than the old ones. LoGH does not have good story/characters compared to which series? What exactly makes characters from the newer show better? Why is the plot better in the newer series? etc. |
Lain666Jan 7, 2018 2:19 AM
| "The moment one sits down to think, one becomes all nose, or all forehead, or something horrid. Look at the successful men in any of the learned professions. How perfectly hideous they are! Except, of course, in the Church. But then in the Church they don't think. A bishop keeps on saying at the age of eighty what he was told to say when he was a boy of eighteen, and as a natural consequence he always looks absolutely delightful." |
| i extremely agree with the OP... a lot of classics are just plain boring.. or not that good... for example: Akira! the movie may have been classic.. and "ahead of time" but compared it today's standard like Kimi No Nawa or Pantema Inverted.. the movie is plain boring and hardly make sense... so is the case for almost All Gibhli Movies.. they are just boooooring... |
Huss said: ZionPulse said: fineI dunno it's hard to tell without giving examples... Oh wait! logh macross trigun eva kenshin. if i remember more i will post it in an edit I dropped logh after 2 episodes because I found myself basically just watching people talking about strategy and lackluster spaceship's beams for 40 mins. Macross is more engaging for me, but the sakuga quality fluctuate a lot (though it's quite fun to laugh at those bad sakuga). The performance is also quite awkward and the emotion doesn't feel authentic. I rated it a 6. |
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| Take a shot every time anime fans used the word "overrated" without knowing how to properly used it... Oops! you're probably death by now. |
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| Some are like I can understand cowboy bebop being rated a 8.1 or 8.2 but lol 8.8 It is nothing special same for trigun But there are more overated anime that aren't old nor classics |
| Most underated anime on mal: https://myanimelist.net/anime/4651/Yume_no_Crayon_Oukoku?q=Yume%20ni%20crayon |
| Whether the classics are truly overrated or not, there are people who love it. Let's respect that. Dont we all have anime we loved the best despite of everything? |
| Yeah, classics sure are overrated alright. |
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Mastergold said: Dude you already had a couple or? (^%Take a shot every time anime fans used the word "overrated" without knowing how to properly used it... Oops! you're probably death by now. C'mon, raise your fist and yell with me: "OLD ANIME ARE BAD! KIMI NO NA WA IS GOOD!" |
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| >"_ is overrated" threads again Yawn. |
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Never!!!! retro anime always wins. |
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| I noticed that we have almost complete opposite taste in anime. I have a few questions for you. Why the fuck would you watch 201 episodes of Gintama if it was a 1/10? What is it about your favorite anime that you like? How old are you? No, I don't think Evangelion and Cowboy Bebop are overrated. Evangelion is fucking perfect. I wish I could get inside the head of a person who didn't like it because they must see the world in a completely different way than I do. |
Huss said: like i feel people forgive them because: 1- they are old 2- they were the first of thier kind 3- it influenced a lot of shows 4- so much effort and money were put into them compared to today's shows .... etc 1- The best things of most medium are always the old ones. Movies, books, comic books, etc. The only medium that might be said to still be in constant evolution is music and videogames. 2- Most works what were the first of their kind are not as renowed as you would think, and it's the same with anime. Most old anime that are praised, like NGE or LOGH were not "the first of their kind", they came out very later after those. 3- That might be a reason, but influence is never enough: they ought to be good as well. Akira, both the manga and the movie, is not revered to this day just because it was influential, but because it's still one of the best examples ever produced from their own medium. 4- ...well, yeah? Isn't exactly that the reason why they are so much better than the newer stuff? Huss said: but when it comes to classics stuff i find them rate those higher than what they deserve. not just these people, many many people in mal do this as if they feel obligated and dont want to break the hivemind. but when it comes to stuff that are better, they dont rate it as much the classics. Honestly? It just sounds like you don't respect their opinion and think they ought to have the same views as yours. Edit: lol can't believe I answered to a 9 month old thread. |
Satyr_iconOct 2, 2018 7:00 PM
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Never heard this being called an elitist title. Yes, retro fans love it but not the same thing as elitists. Personally I am skipping it because I don't like melodrama and/or sport (which in anime means even more melodrama not real sport story). I agree, it's visually very dated. Miyazakii has older stuff that looks way way better. I think people are loving it for it's environmental and anti-war messages...or something. I disagree - it's an absolutely great show...just runs out of steam in its second season. I like it better than the first GITS movie and obviously better than Arise. I think very few people call it "best thing ever". Agree about the first and the last. Never watched the middle. |
| Pretty much the opposite. Many modern "classics" are overrated. |
| for something to even be considered a classic it has to be older, but thats just my opinion. |
| true, people sometimes think just because something is old and a classic, then it deserves a high rating. |
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| I was with you when you said EVA, which is a disgustingly overrated mecha anime, only remembered for it's purposely yet uselessly cryptic final 5 or so episodes. Then you lost me when you said Kenshin, which to this day is still a measuring stick for shounen anime. |
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| Dunno, maybe VHS nostalgia, or that so-salled "soul", which is kinda rare nowadays. Those old anime with no doubt can be too simple, too silly, or even stupid and illogical, but they still have soul. And as the main purpose of any show is enjoyment, those flaws can easily be forgiven. As for me, I do love most of the old classics, but I don't accept Evangelion and anything from Miyazaki. I consider them overrated (but still passable though) |
Nemo_NiemandFeb 19, 2020 8:50 AM
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| ->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Watched 110 shows, think he have seen it all and know it all. Nice one. |
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| Why doesn't everyone just agree with all my opinions am I right fellas? |
| Popular anime are overrated anyway, doesn't matter it's old or new |
| Thread Locked Pretty much turned into a Underrated/Overrated thread. If you wish to discuss whether shows or overrated or not, please use the dedicated thread |
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