| @kodial Anime characters are objects, so objectifying objects isn't really a problem. Objectification on real people is also not really a problem, since what people cry about does not actually happen (e.g. lose empathy completely towards another human being). Actual objectification is day to day interaction with clerks for example. |
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oryouohagi said: As to support my argument, if you pay attention in most anime, female characters only talk about the male characters, there are almost no cases where they would talk about something else. Sorry to inform you but that is very realistic. Whenever my female friends get together they always talk about boys, be it the ones around them or male film actors. Not every girl has interest in those sort of things but majority do. My friends from school, junior college, senior college and even post graduation just talk about boys most of the time, which honestly gets quite boring and annoying since those things don't interest me. |
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Trentor11 said: Do you see any fuck I could give out there?azoth212 said: You should check out Blast of Tempest, not all shounen have one dimensional females, that and anime is just the tip of the iceberg, there are even some shounen that are in the romance genre, an instance would be Horimiya. You just need to dig deeper to find titles like these. If you're looking for a "realistic" main female character, I recommend you to read/watch Snow White with The Red Hair, I can assure the main character is anything but flat and one dimensional. lol Snow White with the Red Hair was garbage |
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Maou_heika said: oryouohagi said: As to support my argument, if you pay attention in most anime, female characters only talk about the male characters, there are almost no cases where they would talk about something else. Sorry to inform you but that is very realistic. Whenever my female friends get together they always talk about boys, be it the ones around them or male film actors. Not every girl has interest in those sort of things but majority do. My friends from school, junior college, senior college and even post graduation just talk about boys most of the time, which honestly gets quite boring and annoying since those things don't interest me. i love how people who screaming about "realism" oftenly the one that has really norrow minded and idealized view of "realism" it self that make it become utopia which is "Unrealistic" in a sense... |
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| how does this have anything to do with gender? why does it even matter? realism is not an inherently good thing, you're also wrong but whatever. |
Voidd said: how does this have anything to do with gender? why does it even matter? realism is not an inherently good thing, you're also wrong but whatever. We just want for authors to put more effort in writing their characters. But not descriptive writing like their powers, their background, or situation. Not their attributes like their personality, quirk, stereotypes, fetishes and whatnot. Give them more of their own drive, give them more means to live to the point of they'll do just fine on their own if you remove the protagonist completely (a.k.a. sense of independence). Give them clothes not as an accessory but as their own necessity. More emphasis on soul rather than vessel. etc ect. |
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allflying said: eh. i don't really know what you're talking about, a characters background helps the viewers understand why they made the decisions that they made, which can be the foundation as to why they are the person they are today, it's how we understand their goals, i also see nothing wrong with quirks, they can individualize a character which is good.Voidd said: how does this have anything to do with gender? why does it even matter? realism is not an inherently good thing, you're also wrong but whatever. We just want for authors to put more effort in writing their characters. But not descriptive writing like their powers, their background, or situation. Not their attributes like their personality, quirk, stereotypes, fetishes and whatnot. Give them more of their own drive, give them more means to live to the point of they'll do just fine on their own if you remove the protagonist completely (a.k.a. sense of independence). Give them clothes not as an accessory but as their own necessity. More emphasis on soul rather than vessel. etc ect. |
allflying said: Disregarding the fact that authors can write their shit however they want (free expression and all) and this is mostly not criticism because you're pretty much asking them to do it for you.Give them more of their own drive, give them more means to live to the point of they'll do just fine on their own if you remove the protagonist completely (a.k.a. sense of independence). Give them clothes not as an accessory but as their own necessity. More emphasis on soul rather than vessel. etc ect. What you're describing already happens in Anime. I can't think of a single Anime besides the specific ones in which the protagonist is needed, e.g. taking care of a character that is disabled (or too young for example). You don't really have a case. And if you do, you do in the cases in which the plot is moved by the protagonist, that's why he is the protagonist though and that's what the Anime is about, the protagonists. If you want more than one protagonist, look for fiction that allows it, there are some authors that write multiple characters as protagonists. |
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Voidd said: allflying said: eh. i don't really know what you're talking about, a characters background helps the viewers understand why they made the decisions that they made, which can be the foundation as to why they are the person they are today, it's how we understand their goals, i also see nothing wrong with quirks, they can individualize a character which is good.We just want for authors to put more effort in writing their characters. But not descriptive writing like their powers, their background, or situation. Not their attributes like their personality, quirk, stereotypes, fetishes and whatnot. Give them more of their own drive, give them more means to live to the point of they'll do just fine on their own if you remove the protagonist completely (a.k.a. sense of independence). Give them clothes not as an accessory but as their own necessity. More emphasis on soul rather than vessel. etc ect. Yes, but then you're lacking balance. Balance, Darling. The balance of first and last paragraph. Immahnoob said: allflying said: Disregarding the fact that authors can write their shit however they want (free expression and all) and this is mostly not criticism because you're pretty much asking them to do it for you.Give them more of their own drive, give them more means to live to the point of they'll do just fine on their own if you remove the protagonist completely (a.k.a. sense of independence). Give them clothes not as an accessory but as their own necessity. More emphasis on soul rather than vessel. etc ect. What you're describing already happens in Anime. I can't think of a single Anime besides the specific ones in which the protagonist is needed, e.g. taking care of a character that is disabled (or too young for example). You don't really have a case. And if you do, you do in the cases in which the plot is moved by the protagonist, that's why he is the protagonist though and that's what the Anime is about, the protagonists. If you want more than one protagonist, look for fiction that allows it, there are some authors that write multiple characters as protagonists. You too, monkey. Balance the character to make them more alive. And is that how you treat "suggestion"? Hurrrr..., you only want me to do want you want! Like that? Of course, we consumers are free to do what we want too. Including bashing the authors (which is not what I was doing), give them critics and suggestion. If they (and you) are so deaf-minded to others' opinion. We're free to not to consume their works and move to something else. Or, do you really think that organic characters like what I've said only exist in my mind? :^) |
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| @allflying Unlike you though, I do not ask authors to do anything. I merely told you that it's a dumb statement that you made and it's also against free expression. And you were bashing, otherwise you wouldn't claim it as a bad thing to then claim you want it to be changed. Otherwise are you saying that it's ok for authors to keep doing their characters as they wish? Oh and of course, I do think that what you said is completely false. Most Anime does not suffer of the issue you're talking about. |
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| hey life is unrealistic tough shitz |
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| Most anime characters are not as unrealistic as you think. Go to japan and see how girls are there. Often times they'll show the minority weirdos as common characters, but that doesn't mean those types of people don't exist. |
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