| "One does not simply live outside of ignorance and not feel dead inside." - Anonymous 2016. There is too much about society that makes me sick. The way I've been raised is to see things for how they are, and I often wish that I was raised to be an ignorant, mindless, herd-mentality-driven, hypocritical piece of shit like the people I run into and deal with on a daily basis. I fear that listing one thing wrong with society will lead me to rant for an unnecessarily large number of paragraphs, so instead I will leave you with this greatly executed scene from Mr. Robot. What about society disappoints YOU? |
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| Nothing because I'm not an edgy and/or angsty teen who listens to "Rage Against the Machine" and feels the need to say "Fuck society" because I'm socially inept. |
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Cookies said: Poor reasoning, largely unsurprising. Carry on, lmao.Nothing because I'm not an edgy and/or angsty teen who listens to "Rage Against the Machine" and feels the need to say "Fuck society" because I'm socially inept. |
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deadaccount___ said: I have stated all I need to state, I am simply a mature adult who accepts the society they live in with no prominent issues, like most normal adults.Cookies said: Poor reasoning, largely unsurprising. Carry on, lmao.Nothing because I'm not an edgy and/or angsty teen who listens to "Rage Against the Machine" and feels the need to say "Fuck society" because I'm socially inept. |
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SolitudeHermit said: Thanks I'm glad you're happy with the way I'm currently living my life. I hope you find happiness in your life too c:Cookies said: I have stated all I need to state, I am simply a mature adult who accepts the society they live in, like most normal people. They say ignorance is bliss, so you must be one happy person living like a moron. Congrats. |
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Cookies said: One does not need to accept everything at face value to be considered "mature", I have no clue where you got this reasoning from. Being critical is a vastly important aspect of life and learning, someone who simply accepts everything given to them on a silver platter is bound to end up being poisoned. It's a healthy "mature" practice to question things that seem out of place.deadaccount___ said: I have stated all I need to state, I am simply a mature adult who accepts the society they live in with no prominent issues, like most normal adults.Poor reasoning, largely unsurprising. Carry on, lmao. |
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SolitudeHermit said: You're going off topic, Nico is exactly right and you're just proving it further.The_Nico said: People who pretend to be intellectual about why society "has failed" us, but in the end, are just edgy metalfags who hate nothing but themselves. People who use "metalfags" to feel better about their music taste. Can we just agree that this is another one of those threads where we dump on other people who disagree with our worldview? |
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The_Nico said: IQ is important, I agree, it's a nice way to determine a foundation or cornerstone to someone's intelligence and potential. But it's also important to keep in mind that having a high IQ doesn't prevent you from being a brainwashed fool, or just a plain destructive idiot.Another reason why society has failed us is that people reject the concept of the IQ and intelligence. |
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The_Nico said: deadaccount___ said: IQ is important, I agree, it's a nice way to determine a foundation or cornerstone to someone's intelligence and potential. But it's also important to keep in mind that having a high IQ doesn't prevent you from being a brainwashed fool, or just a plain destructive idiot. Oh I believe that IQ is very important to the foundation of society, in fact, it helps separates the strong and the weak as well as the emotionally rational and the emotionally irrational, in which emotionally irrational people are perhaps at a lower IQ while tested, and therefore deprived of said intelligence. I think you are referring to EQ when it comes to measuring emotional intelligence. :O |
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The_Nico said: In some, if not most cases, sure. I'd be likely inclined to agree. It's also a well-known fact that emotionally unstable people with high IQ's have caused some of the most destructive events in human history. It's all relevant to your personality type, and what you've experienced emotionally, I suppose. Someone who has lived a sheltered life is far more likely to be emotionally rational, for example.deadaccount___ said: IQ is important, I agree, it's a nice way to determine a foundation or cornerstone to someone's intelligence and potential. But it's also important to keep in mind that having a high IQ doesn't prevent you from being a brainwashed fool, or just a plain destructive idiot. Oh I believe that IQ is very important to the foundation of society, in fact, it helps separates the strong and the weak as well as the emotionally rational and the emotionally irrational, in which emotionally irrational people are perhaps at a lower IQ while tested, and therefore deprived of said intelligence. |
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The_Nico said: Sukeroku said: I think you are referring to EQ when it comes to measuring emotional intelligence. :O EQ does not exist, rather, it is a concept that falls under the fallacy of the "multiple intelligence" theory. Maybe that's just you. Not saying what you think is bad or anything but I tend to view IQ and EQ separately despite having close ties (others often use them interchangeably.) |
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cumshotz said: just because angry teens would agree with what op is saying doesn't necessarily mean he's wrong. i'm no misanthrope but i do agree with the general sentiment. herd mentality is a part of human nature and causes lots of bad things to be socially accepted to varying degrees. "this is just the way things are," "they do it so i can/should do it too," etc. at the end of the day i think our own worst enemies are ourselves. Yes herd mentality can be a terrible thing. Yeah people often see others' flaws before their own. So I guess the greatest challenge and obstacle to beat are ourselves. Thanks for sharing dude. |
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cumshotz said: I would normally call myself a misanthrope, because I'm self-critical and like to believe I have no redeeming qualities to other people, but "misanthrope" is such a strong word. I love certain people, I love humanity to some degree too. So I guess I only use it figuratively. just because angry teens would agree with what op is saying doesn't necessarily mean he's wrong. i'm no misanthrope but i do agree with the general sentiment. herd mentality is a part of human nature and causes lots of bad things to be socially accepted to varying degrees. "this is just the way things are," "they do it so i can/should do it too," etc. at the end of the day i think our own worst enemies are ourselves. Our worst enemies are without a doubt ourselves, I agree. Everything we do is simply a measure to hide or push away our insecurities. It's easy to pretend, because facing the truth is far more painful. I think an important human quality, perhaps even the most important (in my opinion at least) is the ability to think freely, and not be immediately influenced by everything someone else or a group of people say. |
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| Kids are growing up too fast. They start getting their own cellphones, ipads and iphones in elementary school. That's the start of kids not having much of a childhood. There are less children outside playing and more inside their houses with their technology. And the more time they are using technology the more they feel self conscious, lose their innocence and start judging people at a very young age (if they have any social media and watch YouTube videos). I've seen 13 year olds wearing clothes and makeup that makes them look like they're 16+. Like, what the hell? Slow the fuck down. Enjoy being a pre-teen/kid while you're at that age. |
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M00ner said: Unfortunately not all progression can be positive, but it's progression nonetheless. To be fair its a step in the right direction to a large degree as being technology literate is becoming a more and more important skill as we become more and more reliant on newer technology as each year passes.Kids are growing up too fast. They start getting their own cellphones, ipads and iphones in elementary school. That's the start of kids not having much of a childhood. There are less children outside playing and more inside their houses with their technology. And the more time they are using technology the more they feel self conscious, lose their innocence and start judging people at a very young age (if they have any social media and watch YouTube videos). I've seen 13 year olds wearing clothes and makeup that makes them look like they're 16+. Like, what the hell? Slow the fuck down. Enjoy being a pre-teen/kid while you're at that age. |
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| Arrogance and selfishness Cookies said: Nothing because I'm not an edgy and/or angsty teen who listens to "Rage Against the Machine" and feels the need to say "Fuck society" because I'm socially inept. Ironically this is probably the edgiest and/or angstiest post itt |
SolitudeHermit said: Huh? Whats going on? The_Nico said: Even @ModeratelyHuman can do better than you. You're not even in Danebenreden, my solipsistic friend. Fuck, even @Shaheen- can do better than you :^) Who the fuck are they and why should I care? Right. I don't. Continue. ............. |
| Intelligence is required to understand and comprehend how shit the world is, but true intelligence and control allows an individual to handle this knowledge in a mature, enlightened and content way. Those who wallow in angst are doing it wrong. Which is exactly what I do. I am an edgy teen/manchild, that's actually true, but I also know it's bad to be like this and I have to work towards growing up. The world is shit but you need to be able to learn to live a good life with what you have and what you can get. Complaining doesn't get you anywhere. |
| DRAMA THREAAAAAAD BRING THE POPCORN. Capitalism is a feodalism in disguise. Rich owners letting you keep just enough to live in exchange for all the benefits of your work. Democracy replaced religion but let's face it, nothing important gets decided in ballot boxes. |
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| Materialism. People measure other people's achievements or happiness with how much money or stuff they got. In society's eyes, if you got no money, or anything worth a huge value, you're nothing. Worse thing is, they instill that thought to the newer generation AKA children, preteens etc. leading to discrimination of underprivileged children in school. |
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| What disappoints me? Ha... ahhaha.... HAHAHHAHAHHAHA 1: Honor is a forgotten word, REAL honor, the act of solidarity, looking to your left, looking to your right and knowing, not thinking, not hoping that the man or woman there embraces a code of conduct and it's YOUR code of conduct, and you share it and you and your household and your community are stronger for it. This is fucking dead. 2. Through cultural manipulation men (more so than women, but still us too) are replaceable commodities, the individual does not matter anymore. I've had dykes turn me down for a date because I'm not a feminist, I've had other lipsticks turn me down because I'm not a feminist, because I don't embrace an ideal, because I don't label myself, because I don't fit into the fold, because I choose to react to events based on their circumstances rather than paint every single fucking thing with the same broad strokes. 3. Sex is no longer discouraged on the whole, that men benefit temporarily and women are validated temporarily by loose and promiscuous flings. Gone are the days when sex was an expression of love, sure it still functions that way but the market is so saturated it's lost all meaning. 4. Everyone "loves" each other to the point where raw love, real, ephemeral, deep, love is worthless and the thrill of honeymoon infatuation is the driving force between peer bondings. 5. Mutual combat laws have been abolished in favor of peaceful, weak, negotiations. Some things in this world can only be settled by force. You should never back down when someone disrespects you, your family, your wife/husband, your kids, etc. NEVER, but instead you'll be jailed for assault. The idea that the "bigger person walks away" has killed society, we're nothing but a bunch of animals put in cages, which was always true, but now we have shock collars on, and any sign of aggression is met out with immediate punishment. 6. The demonization of the dependent woman, the care giver, the mother and the wife. I could go on, but I think this sums it up. There is no honor, there is no value, there is no loyalty, there is no truth, there is only abstract nothingness, whichever is good then must be good forever, until it isn't, the instant gratification people expect. Nothing means anything and the things that do scare most people. |
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The_Nico said: SolitudeHermit said: People who use "metalfags" to feel better about their music taste. Can we just agree that this is another one of those threads where we dump on other people who disagree with our worldview? Even @ModeratelyHuman can do better than you. You're not even in Danebenreden, my solipsistic friend. Fuck, even @Shaheen- can do better than you :^) Dude pls stop mentioning my name. Lemme live in peace. On-topic: If the society sucks so much, and you think you're better than the society, then isn't that an ideal scenario? Like holy crap man, if everyone's a brainwashed cunt and you're the only one who can look at the damn hologram from outside, then you can be in control of the people yourself. You can be the one at the top. Others being stupid only makes you intelligent. Others being failures only makes you a winner. However, if your problem really is just how bad the world is and you're irked by its nefariousness, then here's something interesting: You're a fucking idiot. No wise man ever lets external influences be significant enough to influence his own inner happiness. I can accept someone being depressed due to not being in good health because the factor influencing his happiness comes from within him. But to say you're depressed because an american cop killed a black guy, or the guy living next door is brainwashed by Fox news, is idiocy of indeterminable proportions. |
| That it is 3D. That alone disappoints me a great deal. |
Shaheen- said: Hah, the self-projection in this post is comical at best.The_Nico said: Even @ModeratelyHuman can do better than you. You're not even in Danebenreden, my solipsistic friend. Fuck, even @Shaheen- can do better than you :^) Dude pls stop mentioning my name. Lemme live in peace. On-topic: If the society sucks so much, and you think you're better than the society, then isn't that an ideal scenario? Like holy crap man, if everyone's a brainwashed cunt and you're the only one who can look at the damn hologram from outside, then you can be in control of the people yourself. You can be the one at the top. Others being stupid only makes you intelligent. Others being failures only makes you a winner. However, if your problem really is just how bad the world is and you're irked by its nefariousness, then here's something interesting: You're a fucking idiot. No wise man ever lets external influences be significant enough to influence his own inner happiness. I can accept someone being depressed due to not being in good health because the factor influencing his happiness comes from within him. But to say you're depressed because an american cop killed a black guy, or the guy living next door is brainwashed by Fox news, is idiocy of indeterminable proportions. First of all, I never said I'm the "only one who can look at the damn hologram from the outside" (What a terrible roundabout term, by the way), I merely said I deal with ignorant scum on a daily basis. Furthermore, your 'assumption' (I use that loosely as it was more of a blatant statement) that I'm not affected by this on a personal level is pathetically presumptuous, like I have no social or interpersonal relationships with anyone on planet Earth. Either way, your pseudo-intellectualism amuses me at best. Carry on, mate. |
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deadaccount___ said: Hah, the self-projection in this post is comical at best. First of all, I never said I'm the "only one who can look at the damn hologram from the outside" (What a terrible roundabout term, by the way), I merely said I deal with ignorant scum on a daily basis. Furthermore, your 'assumption' (I use that loosely as it was more of a blatant statement) that I'm not affected by this on a personal level is pathetically presumptuous, like I have no social or interpersonal relationships with anyone on planet Earth. Either way, your pseudo-intellectualism amuses me at best. Carry on, mate. By saying everyone's ignorant, you imply one certainty: "I am not ignorant''. By saying that everyone is brainwashed, you imply another certainty: "I am not brainwashed''. By saying you deal with ignorant scum daily, you imply another certainty: "I'm not an ignorant scum''. Basic stuff. Some critical reading lessons would have taught you that. I've never been ashamed of calling myself a pseudo-intellectual. I take pride in being one actually. To be something, you have to be pseudo-something. A pseudo-intellectual is merely a person trying to be an intellectual. Isn't that obviously better than being a pseudo-idiot (i.e someone trying to be an idiot)? I scoff at anyone who thinks 'pseudo-intellectual' is an insult. |
Shaheen- said: I did not once say "everyone" ever in this thread. deadaccount___ said: Hah, the self-projection in this post is comical at best. First of all, I never said I'm the "only one who can look at the damn hologram from the outside" (What a terrible roundabout term, by the way), I merely said I deal with ignorant scum on a daily basis. Furthermore, your 'assumption' (I use that loosely as it was more of a blatant statement) that I'm not affected by this on a personal level is pathetically presumptuous, like I have no social or interpersonal relationships with anyone on planet Earth. Either way, your pseudo-intellectualism amuses me at best. Carry on, mate. By saying everyone's ignorant, you imply one certainty: "I am not ignorant''. By saying that everyone is brainwashed, you imply another certainty: "I am not brainwashed''. By saying you deal with ignorant scum daily, you imply another certainty: "I'm not an ignorant scum''. Basic stuff. Some critical reading lessons would have taught you that. I've never been ashamed of calling myself a pseudo-intellectual. I take pride in being one actually. To be something, you have to be pseudo-something. A pseudo-intellectual is merely a person trying to be an intellectual. Isn't that obviously better than being a pseudo-idiot (i.e someone trying to be an idiot)? I scoff at anyone who thinks 'pseudo-intellectual' is an insult. Further more, yes, I'm not ignorant scum. It's one of the few things I take pride in. If by that you mean I should use it to get somewhere, I probably will in the future, although I highly doubt it will be any kind of position of prestige, as those places are reserved for the ignorant. By definition 'pseudo' means false, non-genuine and pretentious. Some critical reading lessons would have taught you that. |
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deadaccount___ said: Shaheen- said: I did not once say "everyone" ever in this thread. By saying everyone's ignorant, you imply one certainty: "I am not ignorant''. By saying that everyone is brainwashed, you imply another certainty: "I am not brainwashed''. By saying you deal with ignorant scum daily, you imply another certainty: "I'm not an ignorant scum''. Basic stuff. Some critical reading lessons would have taught you that. I've never been ashamed of calling myself a pseudo-intellectual. I take pride in being one actually. To be something, you have to be pseudo-something. A pseudo-intellectual is merely a person trying to be an intellectual. Isn't that obviously better than being a pseudo-idiot (i.e someone trying to be an idiot)? I scoff at anyone who thinks 'pseudo-intellectual' is an insult. Further more, yes, I'm not ignorant scum. It's one of the few things I take pride in. If by that you mean I should use it to get somewhere, I probably will in the future, although I highly doubt it will be any kind of position of prestige, as those places are reserved for the ignorant. By definition 'pseudo' means false, non-genuine and pretentious. Some critical reading lessons would have taught you that. Of course you didn't say it yourself. You used the video. Yes, pseudo means false, and a pseudo-intellectual is a false intellectual. In other words, he's someone failing at being an intellectual -- whether intentionally or unintentionally. Some amount of matter in your brain would have let you see where I was going with it. |
Shaheen- said: "Is it that we collectively thought Steve Jobs was a great man, even when we knew he made billions off the backs of children? Or maybe it's that it feels like all our heroes are counterfeit? The world itself just one big hoax, spamming each other with our burning commentary bullshit, masquerading this insight; our social media faking this intimacy. Or is it that we voted for this? Not with our rigged elections, but with our things, our property, our money. I'm not saying anything new, we all know why we do this, not because Hunger Games books makes us happy, but because we want to be sedated. Because it's painful not to pretend, because we're cowards. Fuck society."deadaccount___ said: I did not once say "everyone" ever in this thread. Further more, yes, I'm not ignorant scum. It's one of the few things I take pride in. If by that you mean I should use it to get somewhere, I probably will in the future, although I highly doubt it will be any kind of position of prestige, as those places are reserved for the ignorant. By definition 'pseudo' means false, non-genuine and pretentious. Some critical reading lessons would have taught you that. Of course you didn't say it yourself. You used the video. Yes, pseudo means false, and a pseudo-intellectual is a false intellectual. In other words, he's someone failing at being an intellectual -- whether intentionally or unintentionally. Some amount of matter in your brain would have let you see where I was going with it. Here is the entire dialogue from the video. Ctrl+F - "everyone". Nope? Okay. This can't even be called a debate, because it's just awkward. Moving on. |
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deadaccount___ said: Shaheen- said: "Is it that we collectively thought Steve Jobs was a great man, even when we knew he made billions off the backs of children? Or maybe it's that it feels like all our heroes are counterfeit? The world itself just one big hoax, spamming each other with our burning commentary bullshit, masquerading this insight; our social media faking this intimacy. Or is it that we voted for this? Not with our rigged elections, but with our things, our property, our money. I'm not saying anything new, we all know why we do this, not because Hunger Games books makes us happy, but because we want to be sedated. Because it's painful not to pretend, because we're cowards. Fuck society."Of course you didn't say it yourself. You used the video. Yes, pseudo means false, and a pseudo-intellectual is a false intellectual. In other words, he's someone failing at being an intellectual -- whether intentionally or unintentionally. Some amount of matter in your brain would have let you see where I was going with it. Here is the entire dialogue from the video. Ctrl+F - "everyone". Nope? Okay. This can't even be called a debate, because it's just awkward. Moving on. The collective 'we' was enough. Stop hitting the shovel in your own head. Try moving on from this stage of your life. |
| This thread is so edgy I'm cringing. |
| christ, nothing more embarassing then reading social outcasts here complain about the 'problems with society', i honestly wish the anime fanbase wasnt made up of people that are unable to function socially |
| Everything, but that's not surprising. A society so big can't satisfy all my needs. It's the lack of connection, our inability to talk with each other bothers me. We look at people not just as strangers, but as extremely hostile. It's so lonely. |
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Lothloran said: What disappoints me? Ha... ahhaha.... HAHAHHAHAHHAHA 1: Honor is a forgotten word, REAL honor, the act of solidarity, looking to your left, looking to your right and knowing, not thinking, not hoping that the man or woman there embraces a code of conduct and it's YOUR code of conduct, and you share it and you and your household and your community are stronger for it. This is fucking dead. 2. Through cultural manipulation men (more so than women, but still us too) are replaceable commodities, the individual does not matter anymore. I've had dykes turn me down for a date because I'm not a feminist, I've had other lipsticks turn me down because I'm not a feminist, because I don't embrace an ideal, because I don't label myself, because I don't fit into the fold, because I choose to react to events based on their circumstances rather than paint every single fucking thing with the same broad strokes. 3. Sex is no longer discouraged on the whole, that men benefit temporarily and women are validated temporarily by loose and promiscuous flings. Gone are the days when sex was an expression of love, sure it still functions that way but the market is so saturated it's lost all meaning. 4. Everyone "loves" each other to the point where raw love, real, ephemeral, deep, love is worthless and the thrill of honeymoon infatuation is the driving force between peer bondings. 5. Mutual combat laws have been abolished in favor of peaceful, weak, negotiations. Some things in this world can only be settled by force. You should never back down when someone disrespects you, your family, your wife/husband, your kids, etc. NEVER, but instead you'll be jailed for assault. The idea that the "bigger person walks away" has killed society, we're nothing but a bunch of animals put in cages, which was always true, but now we have shock collars on, and any sign of aggression is met out with immediate punishment. 6. The demonization of the dependent woman, the care giver, the mother and the wife. I could go on, but I think this sums it up. There is no honor, there is no value, there is no loyalty, there is no truth, there is only abstract nothingness, whichever is good then must be good forever, until it isn't, the instant gratification people expect. Nothing means anything and the things that do scare most people. Please be my friend, i need you. Talking seriously your list is so spot on that it makes me sad, i couldn't agree with you more, nowdays people don't even ask themselves what is honorable or dignified and if you try asking them they'll just look at you as you are joking telling that those concepts are OUTDATED,as if something like this was even possible in the first place. In my opinion that is the worst problem,when a society renounce to it's values things like the objectification of either sexes or the indolence in front of decay or crime are unavoidable consequences. Putting that aside it's quite comforting to know there are other people out there that shares my opinion |
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