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Duelit said: Kiehlcash said: Is Ken dead...That epilogue has me confused It looks like a message left for him by Ken as the grave would have had to of read Kitano Ken instead of the gang name. When he gave Yumin the rights to everything he owned, he probably dissolved the Sun Ken Rock group in the process. If he ran away with Yumin after this, this may have been the best way to inform the then imprisoned Soo Park (whose name on the gravestone was a clear indicator of its alive recipient) about his intentions without risking his new life. Hope that helps. I do think so, that's the way he tell Tae Soo his intention. still, Yumin turnaround/betrayal at prev chapter quite dissapointing for me. and after reading this chapter i only can assume she could led a good life with ken as i hope before. I already attracted to this series since i was reading wallman before, and damn this is was much more better to me. Boichi sensei is creating such awesome manga i think, until the chpt 166 came off. I do understand how that thing "paris terrorist attack" affected him on continuing the series itself, and it's become quite bad upcome on the contiunity of manga, well it just "personal" thing but i already hope on seeing Ken beating all the final shits and enjoy his happy life certainly with Yumin and every people that have been supporting him so far. Then sudden change of pace with yumin betrayal is quite dissapointing for me, after all that's really different and worse than i've been hoping for. Even after that Boichi sensei need to finished it in any manner from that point. That's where "Wallman" came tried to repaired it with direct continuity from last chapters of it that represent the assasination of Yumin and why Nami spare her. Still, in the end Ken always believe in her. As for Kotani said "A guy like that wouldn't want anything except the power that dwells in his own flesh and bloods" and he silently gave everything he had to her when she freed from her tight bond of "White Dragon Clan" itself and she did, while they both reminiscing how everything started. I would be lied if i said that i satisfied with this bittersweet ending as it didn't go as i hope and wish (happy ending of Ken and Yumi together with everyone that support them). Still, this series is Really awesome despite few flaws near end, I really glad i can read it, prop to Boichi sensei. Still 10/10 for me :))) LordLagann said: Love how everyone completely misses the point as if the entire story of Sun Ken Rock flew right over their heads. All of the sudden everyone wants him to go all Darth Vader because of "mah feelingz even though he spends most of his time fighting against the exact thing people here are begging him to do. Not to defend against this ending because it is very rushed and very sudden but the core concept is valid and true to the narrative that is Sun-Ken Rock. Ken survives being shot and returns years later to crush the White Dragon Clan. He amasses enough influence and power to dismantle and adsorb the organization and leaves his former lover with nothing but her life. He continues to consolidate his power and once hes done Ken instructs that everything be handed over to Yumi after she has out grown the lust for power and her father's legacy. Being brought to the place where Ken first proposed and handed everything she's ever wanted a hollow realization dawns upon her that it was never worth all the horrible things she's done, especially to Ken, and that she could never take then back. Across the street Ken watches somberly as he reminiscent one more time back when it all started before be moves on with his life. It's almost impossible to capture all that nuisance in one short chapter. Especially when there's a large portion unaccounted for due to the time skip. However I still believe this was the right course of action. Once again Ken leaves the stage as the bigger man and his legend grows even more. Btw, this is whole summary that objectively i could agree with. kudos my friend !!! |
r16fourarmJan 12, 2019 1:29 PM
| Only one thing: Finale disappointing!! |
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| Yumin acting against her own father, to the point of wanting to kill him never really made much sense. So her betrayal and taking over of White Dragon Clan was a good resolution. Manga should have just ended there. Ending that Ken again built an empire and crushed restored White Dragon Clan just to hand everything to Yumin is completly retarded and unjust. |
LordLagann said: [...] All of the sudden everyone wants him to go all Darth Vader [...] As opposed to what happened to Yumi? Aren't they both human? Same logic applies and it would have been better if Ken also went through the process Yumi did. You do something terrible, you regret it, you learn and try to do better. This ending is not realistic, specially when you keep in mind how important she was for Ken and how far he went for her. LordLagann said: [...]Being brought to the place where Ken first proposed and handed everything she's ever wanted a hollow realization dawns upon her that it was never worth all the horrible things she's done, especially to Ken, and that she could never take then back.[...] Yes and no, she already realized it as she told to the killer Ken sent after her. I'm not against an author changing his story, I can see where he was coming and I appreciate his empathy and will to leave a forgiving message, but this wasn't the story for that, not after the way the series had been. This was a terrible ending, so weak it destroyed the series. The whole weight of the series doesn't match the ending at all, it's terribly obvious Boichi's sudden change relating the end and it sucks so bad. It's the first time I wish I wouldn't remember the end. I'd very much prefer it to end in the fight between Ken and Rain, before Ken wins and leave the end open with plenty of options to imagine. It would have been much better. |
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Acrata said: As opposed to what happened to Yumi? Aren't they both human? Same logic applies and it would have been better if Ken also went through the process Yumi did. You do something terrible, you regret it, you learn and try to do better. This ending is not realistic, specially when you keep in mind how important she was for Ken and how far he went for her. Except it's not Sun Yumi Rock. It's about Ken and his development and growth. She never actually had a personality outside of being Ken's love interest and the big baddies daughter. Even in your own words Ken has gone to extraordinary lengths to make her happy but for some reason it's out of place when he does it again; like it's a surprise. The ending is very much true to Sun Ken Rock. It's just undeveloped because of the time skip. I doubt the end would of been much different if it had shown Yumi's redemption. He still would of done the same thing and forgave her. Acrata said: Yes and no, she already realized it as she told to the killer Ken sent after her. I'm not against an author changing his story, I can see where he was coming and I appreciate his empathy and will to leave a forgiving message, but this wasn't the story for that, not after the way the series had been. This was a terrible ending, so weak it destroyed the series. The whole weight of the series doesn't match the ending at all, it's terribly obvious Boichi's sudden change relating the end and it sucks so bad. It's the first time I wish I wouldn't remember the end. I'd very much prefer it to end in the fight between Ken and Rain, before Ken wins and leave the end open with plenty of options to imagine. It would have been much better. Just because she said it out loud doesn't mean she believes it or even accepts it. Ken bought her back to where they first met and renounced all his claims on her empire for a reason. He wanted to show her that if she had simply just asked him he would of given her exactly what she wanted. It's her inherent conniving that prevent her from truly being honest with herself or Ken. Would of it been better if it had ended where you wanted? Maybe. I personally prefer this route since it gives Yumi's character another dimension besides just being Ken's girl. The only real drawback is the massive timeskip because Boshi was rushing to end it. Other than that it's defiantly in line of what makes Sun Ken Rock the goddamn badass that he is. |
| This sucked, although Boichi's works for me have all sucked in general sadly. The start was really rough, especially the tone shifts and the use of comedy could not have fit any less with this manga. It was so annoying. The story overall was pretty meh, it did get a bit better in the middle and I liked a couple little parts but it crashed and burned at the very end with the final few chapters. I like it more than Dr. Stone and Origin, but still think the manga is really poor. Atleast I liked some of the panels drawn here much more than Dr. Stone and Origin by quite some distance. |
BurstChaos said: This ending was just so random and stupid. I still don't understand why she betrayed him but leaving that out, what was up with those random, constant time skips and why did he give everything to Yumi after everything that happened. Boichi tried too hard to create an open ending and it completely ruined it, it would have been better if Ken took over WDC and then gave most of the possessions to Tae Soo, then he and Yumi could go live together some where. Ken did always want a normal life after all. The whole betrayal part was so useless and annoying. The only positive thing about this chapter was the first page, him with the original gang. It was so nostalgic, it made my heart ache. shit is fucking dogshit ending. I'm disappointed |
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| The betrayal part was so ass that everything was rushed. This is one of the worst ending I've ever have to witness. This is quantitiy over quality at this point. Almosr exactly how I felt about AOT. I know that the author doesn't have a fucking time to make Part 2 but it could've been better where discusses Ken expands his gang in America. |
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| The action in this was sick but there's no sugarcoating that ending bro |
| This is my third time rereading Sun Ken Rock. Truly an interesting, moving, and amazing story. From the characters, to the fighting scenes, to the comedy, to the romance, every aspect was written so perfectly. Until we got to the last few chapters…. Yumin and Ken were meant to be and I couldn’t see any other way.. Boichi rushed this ending and it doesn’t make sense why he went the way he did. I really believe that they should’ve ended up together and it would’ve made the perfect ending to a perfect story. Have never read such a great story, and where the ending literally ruined everything. I understand the message that was trying to be conveyed towards the end about revenge, but I just don’t think it should’ve been Yumin the one to betray Ken. Watching her from across the street and literally leaving everything that they ever experience together go. |
LunarPisces1Aug 5, 2023 10:19 PM
| Man, it took me years to finish this manga, I'd read it up to a certain part and then not get a chance to get back to reading it and then forget it all, and then re reading it to get to a certain part again and forgetting it... eventually started to re read it again and got to a certain bit, but didn't leave it too long unread and got back to reading it, all the way to this shitty fucking ending! I was really really enjoying this manga, overall it was good but the ending was so so so so trash, like wtf! I think from the point yumi betrayed ken was just all dumb, even leading up to it, I feel like towards the end of the manga it was getting quite rushed, and was just bs... sigh... I'd give it a 6/10... that's being generous but it's cos I enjoyed the overall thing, but the last part several chapters, I'd say from the whole white dragon clan being brought into the battle, it started to go downhill... oh well, its done and dusted now. |
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| I might be one of the rare person who liked the ending, I just liked Ken's forgiveness overall, to the point it became so extreme that he appeared like a Saint to me, I think that in this kind of fictional story it is impactful and feels very different than most usual MCs |
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