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| I'm back. |
| i see what you did there |
| this is gonna be one of those threads, i canz feel it. also, 2+2 =5 |
| santa claus went away when i stopped believing in him. it's probably pretty similar |
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leopardskin said: I lol'dsanta claus went away when i stopped believing in him. it's probably pretty similar The real question can anything exist with out people believing, do i exist or is my existents based on others believing |
fat_flaps said: leopardskin said: I lol'dsanta claus went away when i stopped believing in him. it's probably pretty similar The real question can anything exist with out people believing, do i exist or is my existents based on others believing This is basically what I was trying to ask. |
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| "If everybody stopped believing in God, would he still exist?" Major flaw, you're assuming he does exist, which of course he does not. So no, he would not under ANY circumstances exist :) |
| Whoa, this is deep. |
Sick_Bastard said: fat_flaps said: leopardskin said: I lol'dsanta claus went away when i stopped believing in him. it's probably pretty similar The real question can anything exist with out people believing, do i exist or is my existents based on others believing This is basically what I was trying to ask. I think, therefor I am. I think that one would apply to thist tbh. (Of course that wouldn't work on mindless matter) |
| Well, regardless of whether people believe in God or not, the theories surrounding the religion and such will always be documented somewhere. However, putting that aside, if everyone believed that no God existed then the practice of certain religions would be non-existant... Furthermore, whether we believe in him or not, when we die or whatever, we will know if he actually exists. And THEREFORE, regardless of our beliefs, if God actually exists, he will always exist, no matter how many people believe in him, and vice versa. |
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asusvenus said: What is reality, what makes something real or fiction, what separates you from me is it simply believing that it is, is it possible that believing makes our reality and nothing truly exists"If everybody stopped believing in God, would he still exist?" Major flaw, you're assuming he does exist, which of course he does not. So no, he would not under ANY circumstances exist :) |
fat_flaps said: asusvenus said: What is reality, what makes something real or fiction, what separates you from me is it simply believing that it is, is it possible that believing makes our reality and nothing truly exists"If everybody stopped believing in God, would he still exist?" Major flaw, you're assuming he does exist, which of course he does not. So no, he would not under ANY circumstances exist :) If nothing truly existed, what is the origin of our minds? We cannot have effect without cause. I "hate" metaphysics, one could always argue back and forth.. I prefer normal physics haha. |
asusvenus said: fat_flaps said: asusvenus said: What is reality, what makes something real or fiction, what separates you from me is it simply believing that it is, is it possible that believing makes our reality and nothing truly exists"If everybody stopped believing in God, would he still exist?" Major flaw, you're assuming he does exist, which of course he does not. So no, he would not under ANY circumstances exist :) If nothing truly existed, what is the origin of our minds? We cannot have effect without cause. I "hate" metaphysics, one could always argue back and forth.. I prefer normal physics haha. Origin does not exist if nothing truly exists, I think. Dunno lol, shits way too deep for me. |
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| You all don't exist. I think therefore I am. Ecksdee. |
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Haylias said: You all don't exist. I think therefore I am. Ecksdee. no |
Sick_Bastard said: Think before you answer. Yes. For all Eternity. And yes... I've considered the possibility of all the world devoid of Christians... and what then? The world should simply be destroyed at that point. |
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| No he wouldn't exist, not that he does anyway. If everyone ceases to believe in something then it does not exist anymore, however this does not apply to every thing. |
| In any case, this is just another "proof of God" thread. Sad part of this world is -- everyone's so obsessed about "proof" such that anything unprovable is deemed as "skeptical". That breeds mistrust and even hate. Yet, it's still possible to have knowledge in "proof" and still have "faith". It's just a matter of opening up in one way or another. |
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| I'm sorry to say god never existed, so regardless or not of whether people believe in God its pointless as such a god never existed in the first place. How can you justify the existance of "all forgiving" higher beings when the world is filled with so much shit, poverty, corruption, greed, etc etc. If I was suddenly a deity with great powers I wouldn't allow such things to happen. Call my opinion childish or whatever but thats what I truly believe. Another thing I believe in is the theory of evolution but thats a different matter altogether. The whole idea of a deity just exists so people have something to look up to, something to help them through hardships or whatever. I am not purposely trying to offend christians or anything, I'm just stating my opinion. You guys believe in god and stuff and thats fine, I'm not trying to attack your beliefs; I'm simply stating mine. |
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KyuuA4 said: Sick_Bastard said: Think before you answer. Yes. For all Eternity. And yes... I've considered the possibility of all the world devoid of Christians... and what then? The world should simply be destroyed at that point. So in that case you would rather have the world full of just Christians. No Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, or anything else. |
| Your question is making an assumption that 'God' exists in the first place. This thread is useless if 'God' does not exist at all. For the sake of argument, we will assume that an entity called 'God' exists. However, you need to qualify/quantify what that 'God' means. You haven't done that. Let's say I created an idea and labelled it 'God' and gave it the necessary attributes that I believe the term 'God' would need. Let's say a hundred million other people did the same thing. We congregated and imbued the idea a certain impetus so that it became a point of common interest with metaphysical meaning. At this point, 'God' exists (actually, it existed as soon as I and the others thought it up). Reverse it; to the point that the idea 'God' is of no particular consequence at all. Then, 'God' doesn't exist. Just saying... |
| I personally don't believe he exists, but for this reply I'm not going to assume he exists or not. The question is based on a fallacy referred to as Ad Populum (appeal to popularity), while the existence of god itself is thus far only 'notable' through people's belief, meaning he would stop existing for those not believing in him, and continue existing for those believing in him. For those that wouldn't believe in him, it would translate as: Y = (God Exists) X = (People that believe in him) if (X < 1) then (Y = false) For those that do believe in him, it would become: Y = (God Exists) X = (People that believe in him) if (X < 1) then (Y = Y) else (Y = Y) Or for short: Y = (God Exists) While considering this question in a neutral perspective (not believing he either exists or doesn't exist) I would come to a dead end, which would still force me to take a side because I'm not informed about the fact he might or might not exist: Y = (?) X = (People that believe in him) if (X < 1) then (Y = false) <- What is false? |
Chavez said: Y = (?) X = (People that believe in him) if (X < 1) then (Y = false) <- What is false? In that case: Y = (Faith of people in God's existance) X = (People who believe) Z = (Actual existance of the God) if (X < 1) then whether (Z = true) or (Z = false), (Y = false) 'cause whether he exist or not, people don't believe anyway. Z can't be calculated anyway. Which means that the Neutral aproach suggests that topics like this are extremely useless. |
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Esley said: Which means that the Neutral aproach suggests that topics like this are extremely useless. In that case, since Z can't be calculated*, any perspective is irrelevant to the topic because the user is free to fill in value Z without anything to support it since *. I'd prefer to go neutral and conclude there is no possible answer rather than fall in the infinite cycle of circular reasoning explained above. |
Hanyuu-hauu said: If everyone ceases to believe in something then it does not exist anymore, however this does not apply to every thing. Regardless of whether he exists or not, and regardless of how many people believe in him or not, there will always be theories surrounding the existence of "God". No one will know if God exists until our death. Supposing that he does exist, then it doesn't matter if everyone stopped believing in him, he would still be existing somewhere. And the same goes for the opposite; everyone may believe in God, and when we die we learn that there was never a God. |
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JessIsEpic said: Regardless of whether he exists or not, and regardless of how many people believe in him or not, there will always be theories surrounding the existence of "God". No one will know if God exists until our death. Supposing that he does exist, then it doesn't matter if everyone stopped believing in him, he would still be existing somewhere. And the same goes for the opposite; everyone may believe in God, and when we die we learn that there was never a God. What if he does exist but there's no afterlife anyway? Nobody can answer OP's question, all anyone can do is guess. |
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Perposterone said: Look a giant spagetti monster  |
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KyuuA4 said: Sick_Bastard said: Think before you answer. Yes. For all Eternity. And yes... I've considered the possibility of all the world devoid of Christians... and what then? The world should simply be destroyed at that point. Quoting this for posterity. Once he start going on one-man crusades, you'll all wonder why no one noticed it. I noticed. |
| Of course he would, God's not going to stop existing just because his creation won't believe in him. |
llxwarbirdxll said: Perposterone said: Look the east is burning red  What is that from? |
| Thread exists (how many god threads do we have anyway), and is full of spam. Locked. |
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