| Slutty lil bitch |
| Guts should have left her behind with Rickert. |
 All credit goes to Sacred. |
| Lol I don't mind her being jealous. |
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FireEmblemIke24 said: Guts should have left her behind with Rickert. But then Rickert would have been attacked by the demons though, Guts feels like its his responsibility so hes carrying the weight. |
| I've been here way too long... |
TheConquerer said: FireEmblemIke24 said: Guts should have left her behind with Rickert. But then Rickert would have been attacked by the demons though, Guts feels like its his responsibility so hes carrying the weight. That's not true. Casca herself actually stayed for more than 2 years at the cave. It actually was a safe place due to dwarves having lived back there. What guts felt was something different. Just like in the golden age he again had left someone dear to him, but this time the most important person he ever had in his life. He felt guilty for going after apostles and leaving casca behind so he went back to actually take her with him and to bring her to a place in which she would be completely safe. Which ultimately became Elfhelm. About the post though. At first Casca and Guts were like Cat and Dog, both simply could not understand each other and there was jealousy behind Casca's thoughts on Guts. But what happened after the 100 men fight ? She developed. Casca's whole life was about fulfilling Griffith's dream. She loved him deeply yet was not in love with him. Guts was the first person to make her think that there is life outside following Griffith. She was able to see herself falling in love with someone, someone in her life other than Griffith. That's what she meant when she said she's changing. Just look at how Judeau reacts to her when Guts fights Griffith to leave the band of the hawk. Her development throughout the golden age arc is great and i really like her character. She is a strong female warrior with many complex issues revolving around her and the role she played i Guts life made also his character way greater especially during the last few arcs. Of course after getting raped she got traumatized just like Guts, but both are dealing with it in a different way (Guts and the Beast of Darkness). So ultimately i can't wait until she gets cured, because if she does there will be some great development revolving around her and Guts. |
| Used To like her before the Eclipse, Now I dont care about her. I dislike that she drags the story down Though. |
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Klad said: Slutty lil bitch Blame Griffith |
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| She was pretty cool before she turned into an idiot, not much she can do about it though. I'm really interested in seeing how she will act when she turns back to normal. |
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iAmZiro said: She was pretty cool before she turned into an idiot, not much she can do about it though. I'm really interested in seeing how she will act when she turns back to normal. That's implying she isn't going to be brutally murdered before that happens, come along now. |
| Does anyone else need a doctor to confirm that someone without a head is dead? |
| I really like Berserk and I don´t want to be "that guy",but for some reason I´m not really buying that she would get traumatized to that extent from what happened at the eclipse.Don´t get me wrong, what happened to the Hawks was absolutely brutal and horrifying,but it´s not like Casca haven´t seen any blood in her life before. People don´t die peacefully in Berserk,she saw all kinds of rape,gory murder etc. so she´s pretty tough. For that reason her falling back into this baby like behavior is a bit too much for me,but I´m no psychologist.But I´m very interested how she´s going to develop,just finished the Conviction Arc so I still got some chapters to go. |
| I don't like vegetables |
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| She really needs to be puted out of her misery already.. |
The_Deceiver said: I wouldn´t say she´s suffering at all though,I mean she doesn´t even realize what the hell is going on.I can´t remember who said it,but someone said to Guts once (I think it was Skullknight) that maybe she doesn´t even want to regain her memories and he had a point with that.She really needs to be puted out of her misery already.. |
RufusLatro said: The_Deceiver said: I wouldn´t say she´s suffering at all though,I mean she doesn´t even realize what the hell is going on.I can´t remember who said it,but someone said to Guts once (I think it was Skullknight) that maybe she doesn´t even want to regain her memories and he had a point with that.She really needs to be puted out of her misery already.. Yeah, SK told him that. |
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| ^ Oh,I would like to see Caska kicking ass again. |
| I liked her in the golden age arc l dislike her a lot now though |
| huh |
| it's been like what, 10 years since she was relevant ? lol |
zhrtjyhztnjgfhb said: I have a hard time liking Caska as a character. I empathized with her past and I could understand why she was an emotional wreck at times. However I still think she was cruel and unfair towards Guts before she became traumatized. The man was minding his own business when he was attacked by the hawks one day. It's not like he planned on joining them or coming between Caska and Griffith. Still that didn't stop Caska from slapping, punching, stabbing and constantly berating Guts at every turn. Hope you don't mind me bumping this old thread but I'm so bored right now and wanna share some of my thoughts. Casca was mad with jealousy towards the relationship between Guts and Griffith. She would however never have been quite that hostile towards Guts if Griffith had not said "I want you" to him like that. He had not said anything like that to anyone before, as she pointed out. Griffith kept risking his life for Guts constantly, in ways he did not risk his life for anyone else. Casca felt like Guts was a threat to her entire world, and her world was Griffith and her relationship with him. But eventually her feelings changed, very slowly but surely. I personally like the fact that Casca has gone from a person who always needed a beacon in Griffith, to someone that is a beacon for someone else, even if that beacon is currently in a broken state of mind. Guts loves her more than anything and he has realized that being with Casca is more important than taking revenge on Griffith. I love Casca as a character, even if she is very troublesome, that is how she is supposed to be right now. I'm eagerly waiting for her mental return and reunion with Guts however. |
| what i'm confused over is did caska love griffith or not. i thought she was just jealous over the closeness griffith and guts had as friends but in the 3rd movie she says "I could never be his comrade or woman." so that makes me think that i'm either reading too much into it or is it a mistranslation? so did she want griffith's romantic love or friendship love? |
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TomDay said: what i'm confused over is did caska love griffith or not. i thought she was just jealous over the closeness griffith and guts had as friends but in the 3rd movie she says "I could never be his comrade or woman." so that makes me think that i'm either reading too much into it or is it a mistranslation? so did she want griffith's romantic love or friendship love? Yes, she wanted to be more than a friend to Griffith, she loved him, Griffith smart as he is realized that and would never let her had at least one night with him since this way she would still following in the hope that one day he would correspond to her feelings. One thing to notice is that after his rescue he tries to have sex with Casca, but he is weak and not even a shadow of the man he once was, idk if Casca did notice his intentions but she only hugged him. |
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RealY2J said: One thing to notice is that after his rescue he tries to have sex with Casca, but he is weak and not even a shadow of the man he once was, idk if Casca did notice his intentions but she only hugged him. I always interpreted it as him trying to only hug her, or rather gain more of her empathy by showing how weak he was so that she would stay with him. |
zodd0 said: I always interpreted it as him trying to only hug her, or rather gain more of her empathy by showing how weak he was so that she would stay with him. That's one of the reasons why I love berserk, the answers are not in your face and it depends on the interpetation of the viewer and they are not always the same, so here is mine. Griffith tried to have sex with her, maybe because he wanted to prove that after all he still a man or something like that, maybe to get more her affection, but she just hugs him, after this Casca go talk with Guts, Griffith listen to their conversation and feel betrayed by them, Griffith then is capable of run away and the eclipse happens, maybe this was one of the reasons why he raped Casca. |
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zodd0 said: I really don't think the empathy idea fits with his character. RealY2J said: One thing to notice is that after his rescue he tries to have sex with Casca, but he is weak and not even a shadow of the man he once was, idk if Casca did notice his intentions but she only hugged him. I always interpreted it as him trying to only hug her, or rather gain more of her empathy by showing how weak he was so that she would stay with him. |
code said: I really don't think the empathy idea fits with his character. Why not? He's kind of known for manipulating others and taking advantage of their emotions, which is what he did there the way I see it. But you think he'd be naive enough to think he could have sex with Casca in that state? |
zodd0 said: But why did he manipulate?code said: I really don't think the empathy idea fits with his character. Why not? He's kind of known for manipulating others and taking advantage of their emotions, which is what he did there the way I see it. But you think he'd be naive enough to think he could have sex with Casca in that state? What was his defining ideology? |
To keep his 'dream' alive? What do you mean? |
| I was referring to what he constantly told Guts. |
RealY2J said: Griffith tried to have sex with her, maybe because he wanted to prove that after all he still a man or something like that, maybe to get more her affection, but she just hugs him, after this Casca go talk with Guts, Griffith listen to their conversation and feel betrayed by them, Griffith then is capable of run away and the eclipse happens, maybe this was one of the reasons why he raped Casca. I personally think he jumped on her to prove to himself that he was still the number one man in her life. I don't think he ever really loved her or seriously considered her a love interest, even though he did realize that he could have been normal and happy with her (he had a dream at one point that they were married and Guts was their son). But he did enjoy basking in her adoration, and after a while he took it for granted that he was the Saviour in her eyes. Griffith was at his lowest point when he forced himself on her, and needed the ego-boost that her adoration would provide. Realizing that she had fallen in love with Guts instead and he had lost even that emotional safety net was, I think, one of the reasons he tried to run away, and yet another grudge against Guts that pushed him to bring about the Eclipse. As for Casca herself, I'm not sure that she ever really loved him the way she loved Guts. Griffith was her crush throughout her formative years, and he was certainly important to her, but I personally think it was more of a combination of infatuation, hero/idol worship, and gratitude for empowering her and giving her a chance to prove herself. She worried about him and cared about him and took those emotions to be love, but she never really knew him well enough to truly love him. For me, the proof that her feelings for him didn't run that deep was when he became more of a politician and no longer hung out around the campfire with the Hawks. Casca's reaction was to accept it as the way things were, and was able to let go of him easily. In contrast, when Guts left the Hawks, she missed him and kept his broken sword as a memento. Griffith's rape of Casca was about control, pure and simple. It's the same reason he raped Charlotte right after Guts beat him - going to a princess who was infatuated with him and taking her virginity was his way of proving to himself that he was still powerful and in control. In Casca's case, he was showing both of her and Guts that he was more powerful than either of them and they could do nothing to stop him. It was also more of a message for Guts than Casca - kind of a "you took everything away from me, now I'm going to destroy the one thing that you care about" eff you. |
RealY2J said: TomDay said: what i'm confused over is did caska love griffith or not. i thought she was just jealous over the closeness griffith and guts had as friends but in the 3rd movie she says "I could never be his comrade or woman." so that makes me think that i'm either reading too much into it or is it a mistranslation? so did she want griffith's romantic love or friendship love? Yes, she wanted to be more than a friend to Griffith, she loved him, Griffith smart as he is realized that and would never let her had at least one night with him since this way she would still following in the hope that one day he would correspond to her feelings. One thing to notice is that after his rescue he tries to have sex with Casca, but he is weak and not even a shadow of the man he once was, idk if Casca did notice his intentions but she only hugged him. ah okay, this is me coming directly off of looking at the third movie and i was severely confused why he jumped on her. to me, i don't think he tried to have sex with her. at least not completely. i think it was just out of desperation of whatever feelings he was having in that moment. by his rasp gasping he was trying to tell her something, something urgent, but we'll never know. the saddest part of that moment to me is when caska barely struggles against him and pushes him, but instead lifts him up entirely. she realised how easy it was to even push the man and that's probably why she immediately put her hands down and embraced him. still though, i find that scene rather vauge. after the last movie i still have questions and i'm wondering if i can ask them here? would that be alright? |
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| I guess is alright |
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| Could be bitchy at times but she felt human and flawed. Far better than boring cliche Schierke (who is nice and "cute"..thats it. Belongs in some magical girl adventure than Berserk) and Farnese (great in Conviction, then transforms into a boring nice babysitter in a few chapters). |
TomDay said: after the last movie i still have questions and i'm wondering if i can ask them here? would that be alright? Why not read the manga or at least watch the anime series? |
zodd0 said: TomDay said: after the last movie i still have questions and i'm wondering if i can ask them here? would that be alright? Why not read the manga or at least watch the anime series? i'm on a depression from manga because i've read far too many bad ones and i'm not a fan of 90's anime. |
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