Journey_95 said: 43211 said: I guess the problem I have with Stay is that the characters are just not charming. And it has nothing to do with school settings, etc. For example, Kirei and Gilgamesh were very charming in their own way in Zero. But here on Stay, they are just the evil dudes, nothing more. And Shinji with the evil glare and evil laugh doesnt help either. The only charming character in Stay so far has been Archer, thats it. For Zero Kirei you will have to wait until HF and Gilgamesh just isn't that awesome in F/SN thats true But how the other characters aren't "charming" I don't get it I guess they were charming in Glasslip lol (which you have in your favourites) If you wanna have a Glasslip discussion, do it on my profile. We're talking Fate here. and nothing more. -laughing out loud- |
| At least we know to ignore you now, per usual. Better name change again and change avatars. |
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| Well, people will always not enjoy things. |
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nocorras said: At least we know to ignore you now, per usual. Better name change again and change avatars. I dropped the second half, specially after seeing Zero last month (great anime by the way). I just wanted to see how the forums here were doing. |
| Fate/Zero and UBW 2014/2015 are very successful from what we see so far. Heaven's Feel will be too. Complaining about it repetitively will do nothing for the adaptation, it will only be a stain on the experience on new and enthusiastic fans. Those same fans are loving it, and may someday go for the VN. Why not write a letter to Ufotable or something? Or better yet, quit your jobs and go work for them. If there's new fans, I'll urge you to do what I'll be doing; sit back and enjoy season 2. There's always the VN if you're really interested. This can be treated as an "after-story" to Fate/Zero. Not a direct sequel, but events that take place "after". Either way, Shirou's most important inner thoughts were already presented: "Why do I want to be a Hero of Justice", and "Shut-up, you wont know unless you try". Fire trauma was expressed, and I hope your soul feels it every time a Kiritsugu flashback is shown. Since that will make certain aspects of what's to come more meaningful. I'll be enjoying this season, and any/all Ufotable Type-Moon stuff like majority of the world/fans are. |
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43211 said: nocorras said: At least we know to ignore you now, per usual. Better name change again and change avatars. I dropped the second half, specially after seeing Zero last month (great anime by the way). I just wanted to see how the forums here were doing. Good, hopefully you'll stay away now. |
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nocorras said: This is the same y123y guy from cour 1, just saying.43211 said: I dropped the second half, specially after seeing Zero last month (great anime by the way). I just wanted to see how the forums here were doing. Good, hopefully you'll stay away now. |
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: WrongPriest said: Just ignore them lol UPW for life Don't you mean Unlimited Yuri Works..............-_- Know me too well |
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GARBrotato said: nocorras said: This is the same y123y guy from cour 1, just saying.Good, hopefully you'll stay away now. Oh wow, changing his name just to troll again -___- |
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GARBrotato said: nocorras said: This is the same y123y guy from cour 1, just saying.Good, hopefully you'll stay away now. Yeah, its me. I said I dropped it. You wont see me there. So yeah, enjoy your Stay everyone. It was fun |
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amare135 said: Because some people cry even if they slightly change something like that shitty annoying Priest. Shots fired. |
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damastah said: amare135 said: Because some people cry even if they slightly change something like that shitty annoying Priest. Shots fired. |
Grapekiwi said: damastah said: Shots fired. |
antonn said: Grapekiwi said: |
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KamiCity said: antonn said: |
Othi-tan said: KamiCity said: |
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Takiya_Oomine said: Othi-tan said: Waiting for your comeback, Fai-kun. |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
GangstaPriest said: SHE'S BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!! |
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| The new OP, and episode 1 (14) further emphasize that they know what they're doing. |
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GangstaPriest said: Takiya_Oomine said: Waiting for your comeback, Fai-kun. |
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Forgetfulness said: survivor_hero said: All the priests are in the club forum, is? |
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GARBrotato said: Rose from the dead just in time for second cour and what do I see in the first episode discussion thread: seven pages dedicated to Shirou's fall.GangstaPriest said: SHE'S BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!I really did not miss the Fate/ forums. |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| I literally never heard anyone say that. Everyone who watched the anime, liked the top notch animation and sound effects. It is unbeatable! |
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RarestProGamer said: I literally never heard anyone say that. Everyone who watched the anime, liked the top notch animation and sound effects. It is unbeatable! Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. We've an innocent guy here...Do you know Fai, for example? |
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RarestProGamer said: I literally never heard anyone say that. Everyone who watched the anime, liked the top notch animation and sound effects. It is unbeatable! Let's see...have you noticed this guy called Fai/CookingPriest around? No? Look harder :D |
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OneTrueEmiya said: RarestProGamer said: I literally never heard anyone say that. Everyone who watched the anime, liked the top notch animation and sound effects. It is unbeatable! Let's see...have you noticed this guy called Fai/CookingPriest around? No? Look harder :D Man, not to have noticed Fai for here is the same that never to have participated of a discussion in UBW foruns lol |
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survivor_hero said: OneTrueEmiya said: Let's see...have you noticed this guy called Fai/CookingPriest around? No? Look harder :D Man, not to have noticed Fai for here is the same that never to have participated of a discussion in UBW foruns lol Well, sometimes people wish to block out nightmares and things that scar them forever... |
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OneTrueEmiya said: survivor_hero said: Man, not to have noticed Fai for here is the same that never to have participated of a discussion in UBW foruns lol Well, sometimes people wish to block out nightmares and things that scar them forever... I remember of some Fai's comments where he said that the new jacket (the black jacket) don't work for Shirou because was very stylish for a character much dense about things like him...I was like "...WAT?", but no one else cared about it...secrets in UBW foruns lol |
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survivor_hero said: OneTrueEmiya said: Well, sometimes people wish to block out nightmares and things that scar them forever... I remember of some Fai's comments where he said that the new jacket (the black jacket) don't work for Shirou because was very stylish for a character much dense about things like him...I was like "...WAT?", but no one else cared about it...secrets in UBW foruns lol Most of Fai's criticisms are valid and I agree with some of them. It's just that he states them in a very unpleasant and pessimistic manner which can get repetitive and annoying quickly. I respect that he doesn't enjoy the adaptation for what it is, but could he let others enjoy it without labelling them as blind fanboys...? |
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OneTrueEmiya said: survivor_hero said: I remember of some Fai's comments where he said that the new jacket (the black jacket) don't work for Shirou because was very stylish for a character much dense about things like him...I was like "...WAT?", but no one else cared about it...secrets in UBW foruns lol Most of Fai's criticisms are valid and I agree with some of them. It's just that he states them in a very unpleasant and pessimistic manner which can get repetitive and annoying quickly. I respect that he doesn't enjoy the adaptation for what it is, but could he let others enjoy it without labelling them as blind fanboys...? This. I think sad when some disconsider all your points just because he is being repetitive and boring, because is a legit critical. My problem is more when he begins to be repetitive in speak about all the weak points in adaptation, and no praise for anything for various and various posts. And I don't remember when UFO said that this adaptation is replacing the VN like the real story in any media, LN, manga, VN or animes. THIS is a adaptation. Of course that important things for the fans will be cutted, it's natural. Now why to focus just this points? This is my problem. |
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| I dont think it has failed...but it's not as good as i thought it would be.. But it's still enjoyable , ufotable know how to make some epic scenes. |
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Thelight52 said: I dont think it has failed...but it's not as good as i thought it would be.. But it's still enjoyable , ufotable know how to make some epic scenes. Well, I don't knew almost nothing about Type-moon or Fate/Stay night VN before of UfoFSN...then I didn't had any hype... |
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survivor_hero said: Thelight52 said: I dont think it has failed...but it's not as good as i thought it would be.. But it's still enjoyable , ufotable know how to make some epic scenes. Well, I don't knew almost nothing about Type-moon or Fate/Stay night VN before of UfoFSN...then I didn't had any hype... I was reading UBW while the anime was airing, and man, it was impossible to not compare both. The thing i miss so much in this adaptation is Shiro's POV, and that caused my disappointment with the anime. |
Thelight52 said: survivor_hero said: Well, I don't knew almost nothing about Type-moon or Fate/Stay night VN before of UfoFSN...then I didn't had any hype... I was reading UBW while the anime was airing, and man, it was impossible to not compare both. The thing i miss so much in this adaptation is Shiro's POV, and that caused my disappointment with the anime. Well, I said it in episode 13 discussion: I know. But I don't have this problem why I don't read the VN for know what is lacking or no. It's worst action possible to analysis any adaptation. I read VN twice in January and March. Point. Have much things that I already forgot and asking for others users here. I'm seeing UfoFSN while a anime that is a adaptation based in a VN. Now has various viewers here that after to see the episode, run for read the VN and to know what lack in the adaptation. It's horrible. I don't remember that UfoFSN is replacing UBW route in VN like the official one (and this not is possible in Nasuverse). It's an adaptation, My Lord. Well, I'm not a fanboy (with no any pejorative sense here), then this also help me. |
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survivor_hero said: Thelight52 said: I was reading UBW while the anime was airing, and man, it was impossible to not compare both. The thing i miss so much in this adaptation is Shiro's POV, and that caused my disappointment with the anime. Well, I said it in episode 13 discussion: I know. But I don't have this problem why I don't read the VN for know what is lacking or no. It's worst action possible to analysis any adaptation. I read VN twice in January and March. Point. Have much things that I already forgot and asking for others users here. I'm seeing UfoFSN while a anime that is a adaptation based in a VN. Now has various viewers here that after to see the episode, run for read the VN and to know what lack in the adaptation. It's horrible. I don't remember that UfoFSN is replacing UBW route in VN like the official one (and this not is possible in Nasuverse). It's an adaptation, My Lord. Yeah, you're right, i don't think it's a replacement either. But as i said ,even with my personal dislikes, it's still a fun anime to watch, i really can't wait to see :'D |
Thelight52 said: survivor_hero said: Well, I said it in episode 13 discussion: I know. But I don't have this problem why I don't read the VN for know what is lacking or no. It's worst action possible to analysis any adaptation. I read VN twice in January and March. Point. Have much things that I already forgot and asking for others users here. I'm seeing UfoFSN while a anime that is a adaptation based in a VN. Now has various viewers here that after to see the episode, run for read the VN and to know what lack in the adaptation. It's horrible. I don't remember that UfoFSN is replacing UBW route in VN like the official one (and this not is possible in Nasuverse). It's an adaptation, My Lord. Yeah, you're right, i don't think it's a replacement either. But as i said in other thread,even with my personal dislikes, it's still a fun anime to watch, i really can't wait to see :'D Me too. ; ) |
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Thelight52 said: I was reading UBW while the anime was airing, and man, it was impossible to not compare both. The thing i miss so much in this adaptation is Shiro's POV, and that caused my disappointment with the anime. Nasu himself stated in the last interview though that this is "Shirou from an objective perspective, instead of his 1st person perspective". |
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Grey-Zone said: Thelight52 said: I was reading UBW while the anime was airing, and man, it was impossible to not compare both. The thing i miss so much in this adaptation is Shiro's POV, and that caused my disappointment with the anime. Nasu himself stated in the last interview though that this is "Shirou from an objective perspective, instead of his 1st person perspective". ^ Show narrative =/= lack of points of view. If they are using objective perspective, they failed to portray his POV |
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CookingPriest said: Grey-Zone said: Nasu himself stated in the last interview though that this is "Shirou from an objective perspective, instead of his 1st person perspective". ^ Show narrative =/= lack of points of view. If they are using objective perspective, they failed to portray his POV Or perhaps it's deliberate...? |
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OneTrueEmiya said: CookingPriest said: ^ Show narrative =/= lack of points of view. If they are using objective perspective, they failed to portray his POV Or perhaps it's deliberate...? They deliberately misrepresented his character and made the viewers hate him? You know I really really doubt that. |
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-Gensan- said: iravuseiba said: I rate it 2/10 because Shirou isn't a transfer student. Other than that, he's a generic harem protagonist. Just look at the characters. Twin-tail tsundere, oppai kohai, nekid loli, overly friendly sensei, blonde kuudere, 2 sado doms and of course, Garcher. Tho Shirou does have the window seat so I'll raise it to 3/10. you should drop it back to 2 since he doesnt have "falling and grab boobs moment". No. It stays at 3/10.  |
CookingPriest said: OneTrueEmiya said: Or perhaps it's deliberate...? They deliberately misrepresented his character and made the viewers hate him? You know I really really doubt that. No, I mean maybe they deliberately took away his monologues so that we can view him through other characters' points of view. On paper, it's a good "show, not tell" strategy, though I'd agree that it didn't end up as well as they probably planned. |
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OneTrueEmiya said: CookingPriest said: They deliberately misrepresented his character and made the viewers hate him? You know I really really doubt that. No, I mean maybe they deliberately took away his monologues so that we can view him through other characters' points of view. On paper, it's a good "show, not tell" strategy, though I'd agree that it didn't end up as well as they probably planned. But we do NOT view him through other character's POV. The directing is not there. The tells are not there. The characterization is not there. Rin already understands more about Shirou than we do alone. |
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CookingPriest said: OneTrueEmiya said: No, I mean maybe they deliberately took away his monologues so that we can view him through other characters' points of view. On paper, it's a good "show, not tell" strategy, though I'd agree that it didn't end up as well as they probably planned. But we do NOT view him through other character's POV. The directing is not there. The tells are not there. The characterization is not there. Rin already understands more about Shirou than we do alone. We do in a way. See how Ayako realises something is wrong with Shirou, or how Rin keep saying he's messed up. We get hints of it, and that's how Nasu said he wanted it to be, according to his interview. I assume this culminates in a scene where Shirou explains what really happened 10 years ago, and ties up all the loose ends. Rin understands Shirou, and we, as the audience, should understand just as well as her. She knows what we know, which is the point of the "telling through character POV" thing. Shirou's character development isn't there completely, but we're barely halfway through. I'm sure Nasu planned to reveal Shirou's stuff sooner or later (or maybe even during the Answer scene). |
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OneTrueEmiya said: CookingPriest said: But we do NOT view him through other character's POV. The directing is not there. The tells are not there. The characterization is not there. Rin already understands more about Shirou than we do alone. We do in a way. See how Ayako realises something is wrong with Shirou, or how Rin keep saying he's messed up. We get hints of it, and that's how Nasu said he wanted it to be, according to his interview. I assume this culminates in a scene where Shirou explains what really happened 10 years ago, and ties up all the loose ends. Rin understands Shirou, and we, as the audience, should understand just as well as her. She knows what we know, which is the point of the "telling through character POV" thing. Shirou's character development isn't there completely, but we're barely halfway through. I'm sure Nasu planned to reveal Shirou's stuff sooner or later (or maybe even during the Answer scene). Again. "Shirou is psychologically damaged" is not characterization. Well part of it is but that s more about his character development, NOT ABOUT WHO HE IS AS A PERSOn. |
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