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Mar 6, 2015 10:52 PM

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G_Spark233 said:
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Not a filler.
Yes it is.


No it is not. IT is adaptation of second light novel. Light novels are part of canon.
Mar 6, 2015 11:10 PM
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Is it okay to skip this episode?
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CookingPriest said:
G_Spark233 said:
Yes it is.


No it is not. IT is adaptation of second light novel. Light novels are part of canon.
Is it? My bad. Although it really doesn't contribute anything to the main story line.
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agreeing said:
Is it okay to skip this episode?
If you do you have to skip the next several. It seems we are going in to a mini arc.
Mar 6, 2015 11:26 PM
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Guess im skipping till the fillers or these mini arcs are done, I really wanna get back to the original, these kind of episodes be having me falling asleep during them.
Mar 6, 2015 11:29 PM

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Before this gets out of hand like CookingPriest said this is not a filler this episode and the next episode are from the second Fairy Tail light novel
here are some pictures nothing that would spoil
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Kemokemo was kinda cute. Breathes fire and has a fast growth. Something that Natsu wants I think.
All of them left most of the guilds. I kinda liked the part where Kemokemo unleashed flames on them. Hahaha!

That Kagura ending card tho. :)
Mar 7, 2015 12:23 AM

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I don't remember this in the manga.
I liked when they visited Mermaid Heel, Erza interacting with the other two was good to see, and Gray ripping off his clothes was hilarious.
And looks like Kagura got an ending card, cute.

animefan8800 said:
Holy crap Lisanna was actually in this episode! Sure she was only in the background with no actual dialogue, but she was there! Not much but I'll take it! :D If I'm not mistaken the last episode she actually had dialogue in was waaaay back in 201(this week was 223.) Honestly you'd think she never came back at all with such a lack of screen time. Yet another reason I eagerly await the Tartaros arc with her(relatively) plentiful amount of screen time.

I agree 100% with this.
Mar 7, 2015 1:32 AM

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Kemokemo ^^. This mini arc seems pretty decent so far.
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Holy shit that was some horrible animation.

Them derp faces though lol

Silver4000 said:
I don't remember this in the manga.
I liked when they visited Mermaid Heel, Erza interacting with the other two was good to see, and Gray ripping off his clothes was hilarious.
And looks like Kagura got an ending card, cute.


That's because this was adapted from the 2nd light novel.

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Liked this episode, thought it was fun both comedy wise and just in terms of watching it. And even though this seems to be a filler it looks pretty interested with kemokemo and all that.

Looking forward to the next ep!


And yeah, Kagura is sooo hawttt <3
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Kemokemo is the best pet! :) He fits Natsu perfectly but I feel like he's the giant thing in the opening...

And cool, Kagura got the ending card

I think its his/hers mother of some sort.
Mar 7, 2015 4:56 AM

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shitty mini-arc..
Mar 7, 2015 5:22 AM

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Maybe finally we are going to start a new arc... :)
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Mar 7, 2015 5:39 AM

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sim0n2170 said:
Silver4000 said:
I don't remember this in the manga.
I liked when they visited Mermaid Heel, Erza interacting with the other two was good to see, and Gray ripping off his clothes was hilarious.
And looks like Kagura got an ending card, cute.


That's because this was adapted from the 2nd light novel.

I see, thanks.
Mar 7, 2015 6:13 AM

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Hmm okay episode I guess. The final filler arc finally started. Guess I gotta bear with it now.
Mar 7, 2015 7:21 AM

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Natsu is so precious ^3^
Mar 7, 2015 7:26 AM

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Harrymanhunter said:
Hmm okay episode I guess. The final filler arc finally started. Guess I gotta bear with it now.


for fucks sake.

NOT A FILLER.
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dvdmpg said:
Argh! This sucked, I want to see Tartaros...
It was already announced that would start in april. Bitching about it won't change what is already set in stone
Mar 7, 2015 7:51 AM

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Kagura is the best.
Mar 7, 2015 8:32 AM

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sim0n2170 said:
Shuhan said:
Holy shit that was some horrible animation.

Them derp faces though lol

Dem faces ahahaha so funny xD.
Lyon shipping Gray and Juvia lol.
Natsu and Gray cross-dressing ^^
Dat Kagura at the end <3
Mar 7, 2015 9:19 AM

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CookingPriest said:
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Hmm okay episode I guess. The final filler arc finally started. Guess I gotta bear with it now.


for fucks sake.

NOT A FILLER.


What is your source that says the light novels are part of the Fairy Tail canon? I couldn't find anything with a quick googling.
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Dape said:
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for fucks sake.

NOT A FILLER.


What is your source that says the light novels are part of the Fairy Tail canon? I couldn't find anything with a quick googling.


You mean apart from the fact taht Mashima did the art for them
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Darklight0303 said:
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What is your source that says the light novels are part of the Fairy Tail canon? I couldn't find anything with a quick googling.


You mean apart from the fact taht Mashima did the art for them


Three of the four Fairy Tail spin-off manga don't have art by Mashima, and they're technically canon. So "canon" and "the creator was involved" aren't mutually exclusive. The same goes for "filler" and "adapted material". We're still in filler, but this time, the filler is an adaptation of omake (or "bonus") manga chapters and a novel.

Think about what the word "filler" means. Simply put, it means "that which fills". There's nothing in the definition to say that filler has to be made exclusively for the anime to count...
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immblueversion said:
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You mean apart from the fact taht Mashima did the art for them


Three of the four Fairy Tail spin-off manga don't have art by Mashima, and they're technically canon. So "canon" and "the creator was involved" aren't mutually exclusive. The same goes for "filler" and "adapted material". We're still in filler, but this time, the filler is an adaptation of omake (or "bonus") manga chapters and a novel.

Think about what the word "filler" means. Simply put, it means "that which fills". There's nothing in the definition to say that filler has to be made exclusively for the anime to count...


BBy your ogic if htey adapted fairy girls, Zero and Ice Trail after Tartaros you would alo call them a filler then? Gimme a break.
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Darklight0303 said:
Dape said:


What is your source that says the light novels are part of the Fairy Tail canon? I couldn't find anything with a quick googling.


You mean apart from the fact taht Mashima did the art for them


That doesn't necessarily mean anything though. Oda was heavily involved in the One Piece movie Strong World and people are still discussing whether or not it's part of the actual One Piece canon.

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immblueversion said:


Three of the four Fairy Tail spin-off manga don't have art by Mashima, and they're technically canon. So "canon" and "the creator was involved" aren't mutually exclusive. The same goes for "filler" and "adapted material". We're still in filler, but this time, the filler is an adaptation of omake (or "bonus") manga chapters and a novel.

Think about what the word "filler" means. Simply put, it means "that which fills". There's nothing in the definition to say that filler has to be made exclusively for the anime to count...


BBy your ogic if htey adapted fairy girls, Zero and Ice Trail after Tartaros you would alo call them a filler then? Gimme a break.


His point seemed to be the exact opposite. The spin-off Fairy Tail manga are not created by Mashima and yet they're still considered canon, so the argument that whether or not something can be considered canon hinges on the original creator's involvement is not accurate.


Hell, I'm not saying that this is or is not canon, I'm just asking because you seemed hella sure that it is and I was just wondering where you got that from.
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Pretty good episode for a filler. I actually didn't have to skip through some scenes like I normally have to for the past billion filler episodes.

Oh yea. THIS IS A FILLER. I read the manga, I'm fully caught up with it and it's not part of it.
Mar 7, 2015 11:01 AM

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Primeval said:
Oh yea. THIS IS A FILLER. I read the manga, I'm fully caught up with it and it's not part of it.


People know it's not part of the manga, what's causing the confusing is that it's apparently an adaptation of a light novel which Mashima had a hand in creating.
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immblueversion said:
Darklight0303 said:


You mean apart from the fact taht Mashima did the art for them


Three of the four Fairy Tail spin-off manga don't have art by Mashima, and they're technically canon. So "canon" and "the creator was involved" aren't mutually exclusive. The same goes for "filler" and "adapted material". We're still in filler, but this time, the filler is an adaptation of omake (or "bonus") manga chapters and a novel.

Think about what the word "filler" means. Simply put, it means "that which fills". There's nothing in the definition to say that filler has to be made exclusively for the anime to count...


The only canon spinoff is Zero and that's actually drawn and written by Mashima.
Mar 7, 2015 11:07 AM

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Darklight0303 said:
The only canon spinoff is Zero and that's actually drawn and written by Mashima.


Says who though? Unless something else has been said officially, I feel it's completely fine to consider the other spin-offs part of the canon.
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Dape said:
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The only canon spinoff is Zero and that's actually drawn and written by Mashima.


Says who though? Unless something else has been said officially, I feel it's completely fine to consider the other spin-offs part of the canon.


Given the ludicrous liberties that Ice trail has taken at least it's rather obvious. Zero is the story of Mavis and the founding of Fairy Tail. Again WRITTEN and DRAWN by Mashima himself. That one is without a doubt canon. Ice Trail is nothing more than authorized fanservice.
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Darklight0303 said:
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Says who though? Unless something else has been said officially, I feel it's completely fine to consider the other spin-offs part of the canon.


Given the ludicrous liberties that Ice trail has taken at least it's rather obvious. Zero is the story of Mavis and the founding of Fairy Tail. Again WRITTEN and DRAWN by Mashima himself. That one is without a doubt canon. Ice Trail is nothing more than authorized fanservice.


Keyword being authorized. Official. Ice Trail is the official backstory of Gray, and if that doesn't make it canon, iunno what does.
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Primeval said:
Pretty good episode for a filler. I actually didn't have to skip through some scenes like I normally have to for the past billion filler episodes.

Oh yea. THIS IS A FILLER. I read the manga, I'm fully caught up with it and it's not part of it.


Not everything is in manga.

This is an adaptation of second fairy tail novel "Every Day after GMG".

Darklight0303 said:
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Says who though? Unless something else has been said officially, I feel it's completely fine to consider the other spin-offs part of the canon.


Given the ludicrous liberties that Ice trail has taken at least it's rather obvious. Zero is the story of Mavis and the founding of Fairy Tail. Again WRITTEN and DRAWN by Mashima himself. That one is without a doubt canon. Ice Trail is nothing more than authorized fanservice.


Actually no. All three are canon.
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Oh finally the island from the scenes from the opening!! I was waiting for it to appear. Preview looks awesome tbh.
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I hope this filler arc is short. God, please make it short >_<

While I also yearn for the return of the events from manga, some stuff in this episode has actually interested me, because I think it will be connected with the stuff happening later in the manga:


http://i.imgur.com/yL58uQk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/u9IOYrw.jpg

Mashima likes retconning some stuff in the manga with those fillers and that's what I think may be going to happen here, with the creature introduced in this episode being akin to that another one, which we'll see in the future, making it a little more understandable, hopefully.


About the episode, I was surprised to hear all the past VA appear in this episode, I thought it'd be hard to do that but seemingly it is not. Shame that those moments were super short. I especially loved when they went to Mermaid Heel^^
Seeing Natsu deeply care about the creature and welcome it "to the family" so nonchalantly was weird, I had no idea that he can act like that, mainly because he does not act like that with Happy or anybody else really..
Also no idea why they insisted n the Sabertooth collab again, we had Yukino the entire previous arc and now we go again with that guild. Maybe it's because Sting is quite the fan favourite if you check the fan arts :P I do like him.
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Aqua_Eleven said:
Before this gets out of hand like CookingPriest said this is not a filler this episode and the next episode are from the second Fairy Tail light novel
here are some pictures nothing that would spoil
Do you know where I could read this in English translation?
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CookingPriest said:
G_Spark233 said:
Yes it is.


No it is not. IT is adaptation of second light novel. Light novels are part of canon.
I mean I know it's an adaption of the light novel or what not, but it's still a sort of filler in my opinion. I mean, it's not apart of the manga chapters of Fairy Tail, it's some light novel that's pretty much separate from the main story. When I say to get back to being canon, I mean I want it to get to the Sun Village Arc already
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EtheriousNatsu8 said:
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No it is not. IT is adaptation of second light novel. Light novels are part of canon.
I mean I know it's an adaption of the light novel or what not, but it's still a sort of filler in my opinion. I mean, it's not apart of the manga chapters of Fairy Tail, it's some light novel that's pretty much separate from the main story. When I say to get back to being canon, I mean I want it to get to the Sun Village Arc already
You're not alone. Most of us want to go back onto the manga.
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I guess a lot of people should realize that there is also a light novel of Fairy Tail other than the manga. This episode comes from there. And seems like the word "filler" is misused here due to that. As long as episodes were adapted from the source materials, it'll always be canon, even when the arc seems to be side-tracked from the main story arcs. And those omakes were canon too even though a lot of people think this is unfortunate to be the case from what I read.

Now commenting about this episode: I like the way how the magic council introduced the exchange program. Seems like Makarov really should've let other members to go instead xD But then the humours might disappear. I wonder if Fairy Tail is the only guild that can mess things up easily o.o
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Biartz said:
I hope this filler arc is short. God, please make it short >_<


Not a filler.
second fairy tail light novel set in between gmg and tartaros.

EtheriousNatsu8 said:
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No it is not. IT is adaptation of second light novel. Light novels are part of canon.
I mean I know it's an adaption of the light novel or what not, but it's still a sort of filler in my opinion. I mean, it's not apart of the manga chapters of Fairy Tail, it's some light novel that's pretty much separate from the main story. When I say to get back to being canon, I mean I want it to get to the Sun Village Arc already


Okay by your logic when they adapt FT Zero, Ice Trail and Fairy Girls it will also be filer because it is not in "main manga", LOL.

Just like omake adaptations these few weeks, this is adaptation of a canon material. So not a filler.
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So you want nothing about the main manga adapted, okay enjoy another hiatus.
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I'm enjoying the adapted fillers from the light novel, its fun to see my characters in another light. I hope Hiro keeps pumping these episodes out, it gives a nice world building feeling.
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EtheriousNatsu8 said:
Aqua_Eleven said:
Before this gets out of hand like CookingPriest said this is not a filler this episode and the next episode are from the second Fairy Tail light novel
here are some pictures nothing that would spoil
Do you know where I could read this in English translation?
Unfortunately it has not been translated yet. The novel only came out over the summer so it's new, it will be probably be at least next summer until it gets a translation. All that's known about what happens in it are from scans like the ones I posted and brief summaries of the beginning like on the wiki.
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EtheriousNatsu8 said:
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Holy shit that was some horrible animation.

Omg I totally agree. I was actually planning on posting that same exact picture and complaining about it. I had already screenshotted it and everything! Anyways, glad to know someone else was thinking the same thing I was. There is no need for me to post it, now that someone has already pointed it out. Just glad to know I wasn't the only one disturbed by it...


LOL!!!!

-"What are you guys doing here"

-"being derpy"
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blfan said:
So you want nothing about the main manga adapted, okay enjoy another hiatus.
You do know the Tartarus arc is being adapted in April.
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Funny episode. Kagura was so moe :3
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KemoKemo does not even look like a dog xD

Aaaahhhh it's Sting! *fangirls*
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CookingPriest said:
Okay by your logic when they adapt FT Zero, Ice Trail and Fairy Girls it will also be filer because it is not in "main manga", LOL.

Just like omake adaptations these few weeks, this is adaptation of a canon material. So not a filler.


Whether or not the light novel is canon, nobody can really say for absolute sure. But that doesn't even matter in this case, where did you get the idea that just because something is canon it can't be filler? Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.
I can understand people saying this is filler, because that really is the purpose these episodes serve. The same with the omake adaptations. To fill. We are taking a break from the main Fairy Tail story to look at some other stuff, and whether or not that stuff "actually" happened in the made-up timeline of this fictional imaginary world is crazy irrelevant.
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Actually according to tvtropes this is still filler.

"the defining aspect of filler is the ''lack'' of series momentum. Filler can be safely ignored without any loss of important information."

Pretty much sums up this portion of the anime.
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G_Spark233 said:
Actually according to tvtropes this is still filler.

"the defining aspect of filler is the ''lack'' of series momentum. Filler can be safely ignored without any loss of important information."

Pretty much sums up this portion of the anime.


I agree with you, whether something is canon or not doesn't really matter in determining if something is filler. Really, if anything the word filler has been misused and bastardized by english anime fans for so long that many seem to believe the canonicity of something matters in defining its status as filler.
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Dape said:
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Okay by your logic when they adapt FT Zero, Ice Trail and Fairy Girls it will also be filer because it is not in "main manga", LOL.

Just like omake adaptations these few weeks, this is adaptation of a canon material. So not a filler.


Whether or not the light novel is canon, nobody can really say for absolute sure. But that doesn't even matter in this case, where did you get the idea that just because something is canon it can't be filler? Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.
I can understand people saying this is filler, because that really is the purpose these episodes serve. The same with the omake adaptations. To fill. We are taking a break from the main Fairy Tail story to look at some other stuff, and whether or not that stuff "actually" happened in the made-up timeline of this fictional imaginary world is crazy irrelevant.


You are the type of cancer that calls every character development episode a filler, aren't you?

So far every omake adapted had significance and htis LN adaptation too



So while the episodes are there "to fill in space", they are not fillers. THey are a canon material that expands upon important concepts and fleshes out characters.
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