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Emperormin3 said:

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When you judge something on one aspect, and say just because of that aspect you wouldn't enjoy something, that's even more stupid

What if everything in the Anime is to your liking, but the Art is bad? By your logic "Screw it going to dislike cuz of Art even though everything else is great."

Pretty stupid honestly.

That logic works for any other aspect. If I say everything is good but the story is shit it works the same way. And everyone does that. So why don't you stop being a little child and respect my opinion. Calling someone stupid over their taste is stupid in itself.

You're the one raging and using flawed logic. Also not everyone does it. Most people don't.

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Again, you wouldn't know how much of a mistake it is if you don't watch any. Note that this statement isn't actually making any assumptions.

I don't have to watch it to know the artwork.

You kind of do.

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Can we get over the fact that I don't like the pre-2000 artwork. Trying to change my opinion on the matter is like trying to stop you from liking your favorite food. Accept the fact that not everyone thinks like you and get over it.

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fst said:

Emperormin3 said:

I don't have to watch it to know the artwork.

You kind of do.

No. First people have already posted pictures and I've seen clips and openings. That enough shows me the artwork difference.

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Emperormin3 said:
Can we get over the fact that I don't like the pre-2000 artwork. Trying to change my opinion on the matter is like trying to stop you from liking your favorite food. Accept the fact that not everyone thinks like you and get over it.

No one is trying to change your opinion. We're just laughing at you
At least I am.

Oct 4, 2014 1:51 PM

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xRatatosk said:

Emperormin3 said:
Can we get over the fact that I don't like the pre-2000 artwork. Trying to change my opinion on the matter is like trying to stop you from liking your favorite food. Accept the fact that not everyone thinks like you and get over it.

No one is trying to change your opinion. We're just laughing at you
At least I am.

First how is this logic when i'm explaining my own tastes. Second I'm not raging. Third if you are laughing then you aren't worth my time and I'm not gonna answer anymore of your stupid comments.

Oct 4, 2014 1:53 PM

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Emperormin3 said:

xRatatosk said:

No one is trying to change your opinion. We're just laughing at you
At least I am.

First how is this logic when i'm explaining my own tastes. Second I'm not raging. Third if you are laughing then you aren't worth my time and I'm not gonna answer anymore of your stupid comments.

Good, I don't like kids anyway.

Inb4 reply.

Oct 4, 2014 1:53 PM

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Zergneedsfood said:
I mean, I don't particularly care if you don't watch pre-2000 stuff, but you're implying that there's a massive art disparity between works pre-2000 and post-2000 when in reality I don't see anything that would suggest that's actually the case.

That's basically just saying that you can't stand watching stuff that isn't digitally coloured. That was the major change that occurred in the industry just after 2000.

The actual change in artstyle is not nearly as abrupt.

Oct 4, 2014 1:59 PM

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Oh I'm going to add this. I prefer how some games handle Mecha.

Xenoblade Chronicles was a good example, making them into a race and such.

I know there is Anime where Mecha are a race probably, but still.

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Oh I'm going to add this. I prefer how some games handle Mecha.

Xenoblade Chronicles was a good example, making them into a race and such.

I know there is Anime where Mecha are a race probably, but still.

Transformers yo.

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fst said:

xRatatosk said:
Oh I'm going to add this. I prefer how some games handle Mecha.

Xenoblade Chronicles was a good example, making them into a race and such.

I know there is Anime where Mecha are a race probably, but still.

Transformers yo.

Oh yeah lmfao. I still like how Xenoblade did it.

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Zergneedsfood said:
I mean, I don't particularly care if you don't watch pre-2000 stuff, but you're implying that there's a massive art disparity between works pre-2000 and post-2000 (early 2000s) when in reality I don't see anything that would suggest that's actually the case.

Handdrawn vs. CG mecha D:

Also the Mechon aren't fucking Mecha that's like saying the Geth from Mass Effect were Mecha.

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hybreezy said:

Zergneedsfood said:
I mean, I don't particularly care if you don't watch pre-2000 stuff, but you're implying that there's a massive art disparity between works pre-2000 and post-2000 (early 2000s) when in reality I don't see anything that would suggest that's actually the case.

Handdrawn vs. CG mecha D:

Also the Mechon aren't fucking Mecha that's like saying the Geth from Mass Effect were Mecha.

Yes they are. At least the big ones and Mechonis.

Oct 4, 2014 2:54 PM

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the Faces can certainly be interpreted as mecha, but they're barely treated that way really

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hybreezy said:
the Faces can certainly be interpreted as mecha, but they're barely treated that way really

No they're treated like most Mecha.

Fuck if Face Mechon aren't Mecha then Gundams, EVAs, LFOs etc. are not treated like Mecha.

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Emperormin3 said:
I don't watch pre-2000.

You fool.

Pls go look for some 8th MS team .gifs ASAP.

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Eww.

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hybreezy said:

Zergneedsfood said:
I mean, I don't particularly care if you don't watch pre-2000 stuff, but you're implying that there's a massive art disparity between works pre-2000 and post-2000 (early 2000s) when in reality I don't see anything that would suggest that's actually the case.

Handdrawn vs. CG mecha D:

Yeah, which if we're talking about that being the disparity, then it's actually the pre-2000 mechas that have better animation.

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Emperormin3 said:
I don't watch pre-2000.

You fool.

Pls go look for some 8th MS team .gifs ASAP.

Here we go.

MiniSiets said:

hybreezy said:

Handdrawn vs. CG mecha D:

Yeah, which if we're talking about that being the disparity, then it's actually the pre-2000 mechas that have better animation.

Nah, Sunrise does good CG mecha.

Oct 4, 2014 4:21 PM

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How the fuck is mecha a genre?

What if someone made a love story about two robots trapped on earth after the human race was wiped out in 2486 due to a nuclear war. Would that mecha? No.

So should movies about men be put under a "man" genre?

Oct 4, 2014 4:22 PM

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key diffrence mecha = Machine not robot if you hate all mecha that also means you hate all anime were cars,bikes ect are a main element

hence why SRT franchise is called that and not super Mecha Taisen

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fst said:

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Yeah, which if we're talking about that being the disparity, then it's actually the pre-2000 mechas that have better animation.

Nah, Sunrise does good CG mecha.

I have yet to see any.

Need more 8th MS Team in this thread.

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Oct 4, 2014 6:11 PM

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Mecha is good.

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MiniSiets said:

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Nah, Sunrise does good CG mecha.

I have yet to see any.

Did the CG in Gundam Unicorn bother you?

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The only people who don't like mecha are the people who haven't seen Macross yet.

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Did the CG in Gundam Unicorn bother you?

It did, at least in episode 7 once they started to get carried away with it.

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I have to say that the later action in Unicorn, while exciting, also felt rather unimaginative compared to the far sexier set pieces of everything prior to the

. The CGI only really stood out for me (in a bad way) with Unicorn's destroy mode.

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The CG in Unicorn never bothered me.

Although I must say, the best action was in the first and third episodes. Hell the very first action scene is one of the best in the entire series.

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I love sci-fi and action anime, and mecha almost always falls in those categories, so I like it too. But I prefer when it's used more as a setting rather than actual plot.

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Gundam is my favorite anime Metaseries. Outside of that I have not really seen much in the way of Mecha. I plan to watch Macross, but otherwise, most of the stuff out there just does not look that great. I also really dislike how much CGI is starting to pop up in newer series. It was my biggest gripe in Gundam Unicorn. I watched Buddy complex and while it was ok, it was not to ground breaking, and left more to be desired.

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Gundam is my favorite anime Metaseries. Outside of that I have not really seen much in the way of Mecha. I plan to watch Macross, but otherwise, most of the stuff out there just does not look that great.

There is some good stuff out there. I really enjoyed Blue Gender, but it's not for everyone. The original Macross was great, though I really question the direction they went with 7 and Frontier. Definitely worth watching the original, DYRL movie, and Macross Plus though. I actually prefer the Robotech version of the show for its more orchestral / less-dated sounding OST but I'm a heretic like that. Watch it how you want I guess.

I also really dislike how much CGI is starting to pop up in newer series. It was my biggest gripe in Gundam Unicorn. I watched Buddy complex and while it was ok, it was not to ground breaking, and left more to be desired.

I feel your pain bro.

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MiniSiets said:
The only people who don't like mecha are the people who haven't seen Macross yet.

But is Macross better than Gundam?

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Which Gundam?

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Rance-sama said:

MiniSiets said:
The only people who don't like mecha are the people who haven't seen Macross yet.

But is Macross better than Gundam?

I love my (UC) Gundam.

Macross > Gundam. We'll put it that way.

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as i iv said

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as i iv said

Yes, you have said. In almost every mecha thread ever conceived. And it always culminates with Gundam not being a true mecha or whatever.

Killjoy.

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as i iv said

Yes, you have said. In almost every mecha thread ever conceived. And it always culminates with Gundam not being a true mecha or whatever.

Killjoy.

no not kill joy this ot me i like calling shoujo a genre mecha= machine so yes gundam could be clled a mecha show but more accura;y i should be called a Real Robot anime hell it made the genre

and as much as i love macross that more space Opera han either a super robot or a ral robot anime

hell i love marcoss so much that i call do you remember love of the he best sci fi movies ever made

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Rance-sama said:

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The only people who don't like mecha are the people who haven't seen Macross yet.

But is Macross better than Gundam?

It depends on which Gundam really, and which Macross series we're comparing. I didn't like some of the later Macross iterations, but there's also several iterations of Gundam that I didn't like. Overall, Gundam probably wins out by sheer trial and error; it has more shows and multiple timelines so it's had more chances to succeed. But I would rank the original Macross series and Macross Plus above a lot of Gundam series.

EDIT: Actually the reason why I said what I did earlier was not necessarily because Macross is better than Gundam, but rather that it is more accessible than Gundam. It has a strong focus on characters and drama outside of the mecha aspect that makes it easy to get into regardless of whether you're traditionally a mecha fan or not.

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Gundam is pretty much the GOAT mecha franchise and I'm resigned to that. Universal Century Gundam is probably my favorite and imo the best and most introspective/philosophical war narrative I've seen in anime.

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FGAU1912 said:

NTAD said:

Yes, you have said. In almost every mecha thread ever conceived. And it always culminates with Gundam not being a true mecha or whatever.

Killjoy.

no not kill joy this ot me i like calling shoujo a genre mecha= machine so yes gundam could be clled a mecha show but more accura;y i should be called a Real Robot anime hell it made the genre

Real robot is a sub-genre,not a Genre......saying gundam is'nt a mech cuz it's a real robot is like saying someone is'nt human cuz he's a male

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Most of the popular ones like the Macross franchise are just terrible.

Yoshii Kiria took over as leader of Fairytale and rebuilt it and became one of Tsukunes formidable enemies but let's save that story for another time

Hehe, let me introduce him to you again, kid. This is Shuzen Issa (who is MIA during the final battle), who will become your 'trainer' starting today. You still have much to go if you want to become the headmaster.

Like the two souls have started to become one.

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