| That was such a horrible place to leave the series ... right in the middle of an arc, with almost nothing resolved other than the Jason thing. Anyone happen to know how the DVD sales are doing? I kinda want a second season but I'm worried they'll just cut the show off in the middle of an arc again. |
| It'll only get a second season if it gets sales in Japan.. After this I don't see it getting anymore sales after the hype.. Which ended today. Now all we can do is sit and watch the rating drop on MAL. |
| It has high chances. The manga is already pretty popular and the anime itself was just spectacular. We won't be able to see any figures on the DVD sales until they release next Friday. Also helps to have that cliffhanger ending to get fans to demand for a second season. Hopefully they'll deliver |
| "All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players" Shakespeare. |
| This would be a horrible place to stop the anime. I'm gonna riot if there isn't a second season or ATLEAST SOMETHING after what they did in the last episode. |
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zperson5 said: It has high chances. The manga is already pretty popular and the anime itself was just spectacular. We won't be able to see any figures on the DVD sales until they release next Friday. Also helps to have that cliffhanger ending to get fans to demand for a second season. Hopefully they'll deliver lol what |
zperson5 said: It has high chances. The manga is already pretty popular and the anime itself was just spectacular. We won't be able to see any figures on the DVD sales until they release next Friday. Also helps to have that cliffhanger ending to get fans to demand for a second season. Hopefully they'll deliver I agree that the anime was pretty damn good (despite all the manga fanboy whining), so I hope it does get a second season. Or at least an OVA/bonus episode that finishes the arc they're on. This is just such a horrible place to end an otherwise good series. |
Blind_Guardian said: zperson5 said: It has high chances. The manga is already pretty popular and the anime itself was just spectacular. We won't be able to see any figures on the DVD sales until they release next Friday. Also helps to have that cliffhanger ending to get fans to demand for a second season. Hopefully they'll deliver I agree that the anime was pretty damn good (despite all the manga fanboy whining), so I hope it does get a second season. Or at least an OVA/bonus episode that finishes the arc they're on. This is just such a horrible place to end an otherwise good series. Nah, perriot should move on and ruin some other series. |
| I don't read manga, nor did I read the manga for this, nor have I followed any kind of discussion of this anime, but from the first episode I thought the series would be good. After that, my expectations slowly sank, until around the 6th episode when I decided it was going to be a mildly bad (so-so) series, and I predicted Kanneki would turn into a badass in a final "boss fight" in the last episode. Whelp, looks like I was spot on. If they follow up with a second season, I think the anime will be good. If they don't, the anime was mildly bad. Even if they do another season, they might just have Kanneki collapse and have amnesia or something to revert from being a badass to his pansy self. If they do that, I'll pretty much give up hope on the series. |
dperolio said: I don't read manga, nor did I read the manga for this, nor have I followed any kind of discussion of this anime, but from the first episode I thought the series would be good. After that, my expectations slowly sank, until around the 6th episode when I decided it was going to be a mildly bad (so-so) series, and I predicted Kanneki would turn into a badass in a final "boss fight" in the last episode. Whelp, looks like I was spot on. If they follow up with a second season, I think the anime will be good. If they don't, the anime was mildly bad. Even if they do another season, they might just have Kanneki collapse and have amnesia or something to revert from being a badass to his pansy self. If they do that, I'll pretty much give up hope on the series. yes because the quality of anime is dependent on how "badass" people are. |
| Itll be the same as what happened with deadman wonderland |
SolviteSekai said: dperolio said: I don't read manga, nor did I read the manga for this, nor have I followed any kind of discussion of this anime, but from the first episode I thought the series would be good. After that, my expectations slowly sank, until around the 6th episode when I decided it was going to be a mildly bad (so-so) series, and I predicted Kanneki would turn into a badass in a final "boss fight" in the last episode. Whelp, looks like I was spot on. If they follow up with a second season, I think the anime will be good. If they don't, the anime was mildly bad. Even if they do another season, they might just have Kanneki collapse and have amnesia or something to revert from being a badass to his pansy self. If they do that, I'll pretty much give up hope on the series. yes because the quality of anime is dependent on how "badass" people are. No, the point is clearly character development, whereas without Kanneki turning into a "badass", he and this show have no development, subpar action, shitty plot. Yes, if he isn't a badass, I feel this series is pretty shit. Get over it. |
dperolio said: SolviteSekai said: yes because the quality of anime is dependent on how "badass" people are. No, the point is clearly character development, whereas without Kanneki turning into a "badass", he and this show have no development, subpar action, shitty plot. Yes, if he isn't a badass, I feel this series is pretty shit. Get over it. getting stronger isnt character development |
SolviteSekai said: dperolio said: No, the point is clearly character development, whereas without Kanneki turning into a "badass", he and this show have no development, subpar action, shitty plot. Yes, if he isn't a badass, I feel this series is pretty shit. Get over it. getting stronger isnt character development Uh... How is changing from a pansy little boy into an apathetic badass with white hair not character development? Character development is, by definition, the change in characterization of a Dynamic Character, who changes over the course of a narrative. At its core, it shows a character changing. Sounds like he changed to me. |
dperolio said: SolviteSekai said: getting stronger isnt character development Uh... How is changing from a pansy little boy into an apathetic badass with white hair not character development? Character development is, by definition, the change in characterization of a Dynamic Character, who changes over the course of a narrative. At its core, it shows a character changing. Sounds like he changed to me. so you admit you just wanted an edge mc? UGH WHITE HAIR SO COOL, CANNIBALISM, UGGGGH |
SolviteSekai said: dperolio said: Uh... How is changing from a pansy little boy into an apathetic badass with white hair not character development? Sounds like he changed to me. so you admit you just wanted an edge mc? UGH WHITE HAIR SO COOL, CANNIBALISM, UGGGGH Could be. I generally like what is referred to as "edgy" around here a lot. |
dperolio said: SolviteSekai said: so you admit you just wanted an edge mc? UGH WHITE HAIR SO COOL, CANNIBALISM, UGGGGH Could be. I generally like what is referred to as "edgy" around here a lot. Me too usually, this anime just sucks regardless. |
SolviteSekai said: Me too usually, this anime just sucks regardless. Alright, I'll agree with you there. But if there's a season 2 I think it has a small chance at redemption. This coming from someone who doesn't know anything about the manga. |
dperolio said: SolviteSekai said: Me too usually, this anime just sucks regardless. Alright, I'll agree with you there. But if there's a season 2 I think it has a small chance at redemption. This coming from someone who doesn't know anything about the manga. Even with a second season the forced censoring and the laughably fast pace would ruin it. |
SolviteSekai said: Even with a second season the forced censoring and the laughably fast pace would ruin it. Beat's leaving people with this sour taste in their mouth after this "ending" though... At least it'll be a decent series. |
DiviMike said: SolviteSekai said: Even with a second season the forced censoring and the laughably fast pace would ruin it. Beat's leaving people with this sour taste in their mouth after this "ending" though... At least it'll be a decent series. This wont get a second season. At least based on the sales estimates i've seen and the negative response. Its only rated 8/10 on mal because of hana kana and the edge. |
| This anime was a little overhyped to be honest, but I actually liked it and it got me to read the manga. With an ending like that though it NEEDS a second season. |
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| The ending in Mahou Sensou was worse. |
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Kagami_Hiiragi said: The ending in Mahou Sensou was worse. Thats like comparing murder to genocide though. |
SolviteSekai said: Kagami_Hiiragi said: The ending in Mahou Sensou was worse. Thats like comparing murder to genocide though. Still worse. |
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Blind_Guardian said: That was such a horrible place to leave the series ... right in the middle of an arc, with almost nothing resolved other than the Jason thing. Anyone happen to know how the DVD sales are doing? I kinda want a second season but I'm worried they'll just cut the show off in the middle of an arc again. The DVD and BD didn't even started selling! First volume, episode 1 to 3, will be released day 26 of this month! The estimates aren't good, but aren't bad either. They say it will sells around 5k that is considered average +(but what in fact is depends in how much money the anime creation was and what they were expecting). |
bigivelfhq said: Blind_Guardian said: That was such a horrible place to leave the series ... right in the middle of an arc, with almost nothing resolved other than the Jason thing. Anyone happen to know how the DVD sales are doing? I kinda want a second season but I'm worried they'll just cut the show off in the middle of an arc again. The DVD and BD didn't even started selling! First volume, episode 1 to 3, will be released day 26 of this month! The estimates aren't good, but aren't bad either. They say it will sells around 5k that is considered average +(but what in fact is depends in how much money the anime creation was and what they were expecting). If it actually sells 5k it might get a second season. |
| I really hope for a second season this is one of my favs anime. I mean why end it on a cliffhanger like that. My instincts tell me they are planning a second season. I feel it I believe. XD I remember I had an instinct about Black Butler having a 3rd season and never gave up hope and it came to pass.:) XD me and my woman instincts it can be scary how spot on they can be. |
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SolviteSekai said: bigivelfhq said: The DVD and BD didn't even started selling! First volume, episode 1 to 3, will be released day 26 of this month! The estimates aren't good, but aren't bad either. They say it will sells around 5k that is considered average +(but what in fact is depends in how much money the anime creation was and what they were expecting). If it actually sells 5k it might get a second season. Yep, is 50/50 to both sides if that is the case. The think most people aren't seeing is that this is a manga from Weekly Young Jump, a magazine that most times doesn't even have anime adaptations, and when they have normally they aren't really well funded, are short and don't have continuation. From all the titles in the magazine only 3 series got second season: Hamatora, Kingdom and Rozen Maiden. Hamatora is a multimedia project that was made to be anime, manga and others things from the beginning and to have a second season. Kingdom got great TV ratings, Rozen Maiden 2nd season got an average of 9,285 copies sold per volume so the 1st probably got a lot more than that. All of those adaptation weren't rushed! Gantz? Zetman? Elfen Lied? Brynhildr in the Darkness? Cyclops Shōjo Saipu? And a lot of more other titles? They don't have second season even if they got incredible manga boosts. The probability of this getting a second season, given the magazine where the maga came and the fast pace(meaning that they wanted to get to Aogiri arc fast, like there wouldn't exist other opportunity to get to that part otherwise) is not very good. |
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bigivelfhq said: Yep, is 50/50 to both sides if that is the case. The think most people aren't seeing is that this is a manga from Weekly Young Jump, a magazine that most times doesn't even have anime adaptations, and when they have normally they aren't really well funded, are short and don't have continuation. From all the titles in the magazine only 3 series got second season: Hamatora, Kingdom and Rozen Maiden. Hamatora is a multimedia project that was made to be anime, manga and others things from the beginning and to have a second season. Kingdom got great TV ratings, Rozen Maiden 2nd season got an average of 9,285 copies sold per volume so the 1st probably got a lot more than that. All of those adaptation weren't rushed! Gantz? Zetman? Elfen Lied? Brynhildr in the Darkness? Cyclops Shōjo Saipu? And a lot of more other titles? They don't have second season even if they got incredible manga boosts. The probability of this getting a second season, given the magazine where the maga came and the fast pace(meaning that they wanted to get to Aogiri arc fast, like there wouldn't exist other opportunity to get to that part otherwise) is not very good. Rozen Maiden Träumend wasn't rushed? IMAO it was most rushed anime I have ever seen. |
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marriage said: Itll be the same as what happened with deadman wonderland this. which is a big disappointment. both started good, had a sloppy middle, finished pretty strong and then went off the grid. |
bad3ip420 said: The show has been butchered so much that it is highly unlikely for a 2nd season. Odds are they just might do a reboot with a proper 26 episode show but I'm keeping my fingers crossed If it's projected to sell 5k they won't do a reboot. That's a successful anime. |
Krunchy said: bigivelfhq said: Yep, is 50/50 to both sides if that is the case. The think most people aren't seeing is that this is a manga from Weekly Young Jump, a magazine that most times doesn't even have anime adaptations, and when they have normally they aren't really well funded, are short and don't have continuation. From all the titles in the magazine only 3 series got second season: Hamatora, Kingdom and Rozen Maiden. Hamatora is a multimedia project that was made to be anime, manga and others things from the beginning and to have a second season. Kingdom got great TV ratings, Rozen Maiden 2nd season got an average of 9,285 copies sold per volume so the 1st probably got a lot more than that. All of those adaptation weren't rushed! Gantz? Zetman? Elfen Lied? Brynhildr in the Darkness? Cyclops Shōjo Saipu? And a lot of more other titles? They don't have second season even if they got incredible manga boosts. The probability of this getting a second season, given the magazine where the maga came and the fast pace(meaning that they wanted to get to Aogiri arc fast, like there wouldn't exist other opportunity to get to that part otherwise) is not very good. Rozen Maiden Träumend wasn't rushed? IMAO it was most rushed anime I have ever seen. I was talking of the first season! Traumend isn't the second? In reality I can't say anything because I didn't watch Rozen Maiden, only the last adaptation XD, but I heard it was well adapted. I can be totally wrong. Well it doesn't matter, people seem to like it a lot. |
bigivelfhq said: You wrote "Rozen Maiden 2nd season".Krunchy said: Rozen Maiden Träumend wasn't rushed? IMAO it was most rushed anime I have ever seen. I was talking of the first season! Traumend isn't the second? In reality I can't say anything because I didn't watch Rozen Maiden, only the last adaptation XD, but I heard it was well adapted. I can be totally wrong. Well it doesn't matter, people seem to like it a lot. Rozen Maiden was a big hit, so big that director decided to don't wait for a manga and make continuation on it's own, then Peach-Pit (original creators of Rozen Maiden manga) got angry and blocked 3rd season due to copyrights. Anime and manga go in totally different ways, it wasn't well adapted, but still good anime so it sold well. Deen adaptation as for deen was very faithful o.0 and sales were rather poor. To conclude - I think Tokyo Ghoul don't need to be faithful to sell well. |
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Krunchy said: bigivelfhq said: You wrote "Rozen Maiden 2nd season".I was talking of the first season! Traumend isn't the second? In reality I can't say anything because I didn't watch Rozen Maiden, only the last adaptation XD, but I heard it was well adapted. I can be totally wrong. Well it doesn't matter, people seem to like it a lot. Rozen Maiden was a big hit, so big that director decided to don't wait for a manga and make continuation on it's own, then Peach-Pit (original creators of Rozen Maiden manga) got angry and blocked 3rd season due to copyrights. Anime and manga go in totally different ways, it wasn't well adapted, but still good anime so it sold well. Deen adaptation as for deen was very faithful o.0 and sales were rather poor. To conclude - I think Tokyo Ghoul don't need to be faithful to sell well. Read again! I only said 2nd season when talking of DVD+BD sales and it was to speculate the 1st season sales, because the data of the sales of the 1st season isn't available, but the 2nd is. I was in general talking about those 3 titles and reasons for them having 2nd season, so when I said "All of those adaptations weren't rushed" I was obviously talking of their 1st season. Given that statement was another reason, or difference to the other titles specially Tokyo Ghoul, to having a 2nd season. The thing about Tokyo Ghoul sales is that unless a surprise happens and there is an enormous storefront effect, it will stay in around 5k by what the estimates say, in reality the estimates say that it will sell around 4.2k, but they are normally lower than what the result end up being(and there is still another week for the estimates to increase) so I said 5k. |
bigivelfhq said: Krunchy said: You wrote "Rozen Maiden 2nd season". Rozen Maiden was a big hit, so big that director decided to don't wait for a manga and make continuation on it's own, then Peach-Pit (original creators of Rozen Maiden manga) got angry and blocked 3rd season due to copyrights. Anime and manga go in totally different ways, it wasn't well adapted, but still good anime so it sold well. Deen adaptation as for deen was very faithful o.0 and sales were rather poor. To conclude - I think Tokyo Ghoul don't need to be faithful to sell well. Read again! I only said 2nd season when talking of DVD+BD sales and it was to speculate the 1st season sales, because the data of the sales of the 1st season isn't available, but the 2nd is. I was in general talking about those 3 titles and reasons for them having 2nd season, so when I said "All of those adaptations weren't rushed" I was obviously talking of their 1st season. Given that statement was another reason, or difference to the other titles specially Tokyo Ghoul, to having a 2nd season. The thing about Tokyo Ghoul sales is that unless a surprise happens and there is an enormous storefront effect, it will stay in around 5k by what the estimates say, in reality the estimates say that it will sell around 4.2k, but they are normally lower than what the result end up being(and there is still another week for the estimates to increase) so I said 5k. 5K is enough for a second season. you need to make your expectations realistic. now every show sells 20k like SAO did. |
bigivelfhq said: Read again! I only said 2nd season when talking of DVD+BD sales and it was to speculate the 1st season sales, because the data of the sales of the 1st season isn't available, but the 2nd is. I was in general talking about those 3 titles and reasons for them having 2nd season, so when I said "All of those adaptations weren't rushed" I was obviously talking of their 1st season. Given that statement was another reason, or difference to the other titles specially Tokyo Ghoul, to having a 2nd season. The thing about Tokyo Ghoul sales is that unless a surprise happens and there is an enormous storefront effect, it will stay in around 5k by what the estimates say, in reality the estimates say that it will sell around 4.2k, but they are normally lower than what the result end up being(and there is still another week for the estimates to increase) so I said 5k. Sadly, first season was rushed as well, but nvm I don't want to turn it into Rozen Maiden thread. As for Tokyo Ghoul we haven't anything to say right now, let's wait for real sales. |
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| Do not want. Anyway, aren't sequels for manga adaptations mostly dependant on how big the boost in volume sales of the source material is, rather than the DVD/BD sales? |
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Sapewloth said: Isn't it usually both? Either way, the BD/DVD Sales suck. The manga has pretty good sales, but I'd rather not see a 2nd season of Pierrot fucking it over.Do not want. Anyway, aren't sequels for manga adaptations mostly dependant on how big the boost in volume sales of the source material is, rather than the DVD/BD sales? |
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Sapewloth said: Do not want. Anyway, aren't sequels for manga adaptations mostly dependant on how big the boost in volume sales of the source material is, rather than the DVD/BD sales? No! Manga Sales is only good to the manga publisher. The animation Studio and the others partners in the animation Committee don't receive nothing, or almost nothing, from it. It may happen that the publisher received such a boost, that he believes that another season is needed and so he gives a huge budget(something that normally the publisher don't even gives at all) for another season, so guaranteeing profit for the 3rd parties. It may happen but that must be mega rare. Look at anime adaption of a manga as an Hollywood adaption of a book. For example Lord of the Rings and harry Potter. Those movies are really, really expensive to make, both in terms of money, time and workforce. The Studio/s making the adaptation are totally unrelated with the book publisher. So in no way those movies are made to increase the books sales. Yep, they probably will increase the book sales, and the publisher expects that and is happy with that, but certainly that isn't the reason the realization of the adaptation was decided. Is the exact same thing to a T with anime adaptations. |
Tyrel said: Sapewloth said: Isn't it usually both? Either way, the BD/DVD Sales suck. The manga has pretty good sales, but I'd rather not see a 2nd season of Pierrot fucking it over.Do not want. Anyway, aren't sequels for manga adaptations mostly dependant on how big the boost in volume sales of the source material is, rather than the DVD/BD sales? 5k isnt bad sales. lmfao |
| again, 5k sales is not bad sales. |
scytheavatar said: SolviteSekai said: again, 5k sales is not bad sales. Neither is it that good, it's the kind of sales numbers that series like Hidan no Aria get and the producers said it didn't sell enough to get a second season. But Tokyo Ghoul will certainly sell more than that so again no reason to think BD/DVD sales wouldn't be enough. no it is good. 5k is good sales 10k is great sales 20k is amazing sales. Not every producer is expecting to make the same money and not every show costs the same to animate. You dont know what you are talking about. |
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