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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I really liked this episode, we get to meet Kohaku who is an angel^^ Seeing Ioryogi knows that person, it's good that we have a few more meetings after that :D Poor Kobato, she only got a toy crocodile but the scene where she holds on to the tickets tightly was really funny ^_^ Shuichiro and Kohaku are the couple to watch here and I have to say the -100 isn't very helpful for Kobato after everything she went through. |
ShanaFlameOct 27, 2009 3:27 PM
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| I only have a doubt, Why is kohaku a angel? and by the way why does ioryogi knows her? maybe they all come from that place they always speak of ?... and guess kobato only has a year to do so... overall i enjoyed the episode |
| Didnt want to comment on this at first, but after watching Kimi ni Todoke, this is just soooo much better. clamp ftw!! now give me back my Chii, i dont know those wish characters~ >:-) -kobato-chan, chii-chan is very depressed now, go help her please! |
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| Kobato is in the good mood. Seeing Kohaku with tears. She, like Ioryougi, is from the Heaven. Iorogi? She wants to try what Kohaku did but no tears... Next day, she saw Kohaku with a man. She followed them from behind to Shuichiro?'s house. Kobato seems to understand Kohaku's tear. Kobato saw Kohaku's magic with the water. Kohaku feels love-ache but doesn't notice the reason. Kobato is going to help Kohaku with dating. Lotto ticket from the trash bag?? She didn't get to get ticket for amusement park, but a doll instead. She bumped into Fujimoto, who's doing newspaper job. He has the ticket!! Kohaku couldn't go, so she told Kobato to go with Ioryougi. Shuichiro heard their conversation and he accepted the ticket. Usyagi messaged Ioryougi differently from the manga, about time limit. ep.5 on Nov 11. |
tsubasaloverNov 3, 2009 7:08 PM
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| Nice episode....but what is that other angel doing on earth anyways? I wonder if Kobato has any magical powers since we have yet to see any from her....or at least no obvious ones. Looking forward to next episode and more plot details. |
| For those that don't know, Shuichiro and Kohaku are crossover characters from another CLAMP manga called Wish. Nice crossover I would think, but I think the manga has it too (I have yet to read the Kobato manga) |
HalberdierRetsel said: I see, i'm not a CLAMP's fans so thanks for the info..For those that don't know, Shuichiro and Kohaku are crossover characters from another CLAMP manga called Wish. Nice crossover I would think, but I think the manga has it too (I have yet to read the Kobato manga) Well i supposed i shouldn' watched it in the middle of noon..i almost get sleep, but heartwarming anime..and Kobato imagining date with Ioryogi in amusement park cracked my laugh |
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Faeverily said: Kohaku and Shuichirou are from the CLAMP manga Wish. If you want to know their back-story and how Kohaku got stuck on Earth, you have to read it to find out more. Kobato and Wish share the same "world" or "dimension". Ioryogi is not his true name, it's Iorogi. It means: I'm waiting for Ginsei to come in ^__^ Thanks for the info. I haven't read the Wish manga so I wouldn't know why Kohaku is on earth. I might read it sometime then. I have seen many anime adaptations of Clamps work so I know about the same world/dimension thing. |
HalberdierRetsel said: For those that don't know, Shuichiro and Kohaku are crossover characters from another CLAMP manga called Wish. Nice crossover I would think, but I think the manga has it too (I have yet to read the Kobato manga) Not a crossover. The anime producers decided to fuse Kobato and Wish manga storylines into one.... And no, manga does not have it. -------------- AS for episode: Thanks god I dropped this. From the comments, screenshots and reactions it seems like a horrible horrible mish-mash rape of kobato adaptation. |
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| This was very sweet. Kobato works so hard, technically fails at what she set out to do, but is still so happy. ^_^ It makes me feel happy too. Probably the reason why I like this show so much; it's really different from all the downer stuff I tend to watch. I want to see moar Fujimoto. |
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| great Wish introduction, I wonder if Wish is still going to end the same way? Maybe the ending of Wish was in fact affected by Kobato? I can so envision Kobato sacrificing all the hearts she collected to grant happiness to others.... |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| Great episode, loved the crocodile part :3 |
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| Aw, Kobato was really cute, especially when she was holding the tickets so tightly xD Somehow I have the feeling we will see Kohaku again :O Nice episode :) |
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| Airhead meets airhead :P |
| I really liked this episode, Kohaku was so cute >w< |
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| Ok episode. Nothing really bad, nothing really good. I'm glad she's getting some kind of time limit, though. |
Friendlysoul said: Airhead meets airhead :P I lol'd at this one, so true. Basically what I thought :) |
 Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol. |
| haha i knew it wasn't going to work i didn't think angels would be eligible for the process anyways. its suppose to be humans. that dog knew this anyways but it let her go through with it. as for the time limit, it kinda goes against the whole process of not having ulterior motives doesn't it? |
| Finally Ioryogi kept his loud mouth shut most of the time. I dislike his attitude. |
kisami said: haha i knew it wasn't going to work i didn't think angels would be eligible for the process anyways. its suppose to be humans. that dog knew this anyways but it let her go through with it. as for the time limit, it kinda goes against the whole process of not having ulterior motives doesn't it? Heaven is a bit screwed up in their decisions and laws. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| Another good episode as usual. |
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| I find it hard to believe that Ioryogi is from heaven. |
| How can Ioryogi drink a cup of juice the size of himself? Oo He's gonna get fat. |
Galaga88 said: Dropped! I knew they'd go this way. How LAME! Do good deeds to get into Heaven. Evil dog demon is from Heaven? I gave this show a chance because I thought it might be different. But it's just more of this same old crap. *Sigh* I have to facepalm to your comment here. That's a lot of wrong assumption you made. "I knew they'd go this way" ---> hm, in what way? "Do good deeds to get into Heaven" --> where does that come from? "Evil dog demon is from Heaven" ---> did you even watch the episode? "But it's just more of this same old crap" ---> could you be more specific? "old crap" is too vague.... |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| I watched about 5 minutes of this episode. I'm thinking about dropping this show -.-. Don't really want to though. |
| Wait... so is Ioryogi from Heaven as well? And what's the difference between Iorogi and Ioryogi anyway... XDD Sound the same to me. The bunny part was so random too. x3 |
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| Wow a lot of people are dropping this... I thought it was a good episode. The -100% grade was funny, as was the giant Alligator prize. |
| I think lots of people are dropping it because they're taking it way too seriously, tbh.=\ |
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| I ain't got much to say really, except for when Kohaku was watering the trees, that was cool xD I mean really, what makes the whole story is the combination of everything, not a few good points every now and then.. Oh well, that's it for me this time, kthnxbai |
| Protip: I don't really check the forums anymore, so if you want something, take it on my profile. Is it time for my long-awaited return to the forums? щ(ﾟДﾟщ) Nope™, probably not. |
GarLogan78 said: Wow a lot of people are dropping this... I thought it was a good episode. The -100% grade was funny, as was the giant Alligator prize. If you check their anime profile, you would see that this is just not their kind of series. They would prefer generic harem, generic shounen or generic ecchi over this. nii-nii said: I think lots of people are dropping it because they're taking it way too seriously, tbh.= I think it's the reverse, they are not taking this series seriously enough. This is CLAMP and by the ending of Wish manga at least, you can be guaranteed this series has a much darker turn. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
wakka9ca said: I think it's the reverse, they are not taking this series seriously enough. This is CLAMP and by the ending of Wish manga at least, you can be guaranteed this series has a much darker turn. Really now? A darker turn for Kobato would be interesting and definitely strange once one gets used to the tone it has now. So it seems like everyone's just writing it off as frillysilly nonsense without giving it enough time to settle. I am now very intrigued. X3 All this talk of Wish makes me wonder if I should partake in it. I had, admittedly, never heard of it before reading the discussion on this episode. |
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| Any anime that's not a legend like Galactic Heroes will have a whole bunch of whiners screaming "DROPPED BECAUSE IT'S ANOTHER GENERIC PIECE OF SHIT!!" in the first few episode threads. Don't pay too much attention to them, because their opinions obviously don't matter. |
Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol. |
| Loved this episode :D, Ioryogi reaction to kobato daydream made me laughed out loud! XD 5/5 |
| I don't trust this bastard: There's something very suspicious about him. Maybe it was because of the sinister music, or maybe it was his evil laugh. Whatever the case, it game me a strange sense of foreboding. Other than that, good episode. |
Mormegil said: I know what you mean. I'm not sure if it was intentional, but when the bunny giggled I had a shiver down my spine, it reminded me of those horror movie where the little girl has a sweet creepy laugh.I don't trust this bastard: There's something very suspicious about him. Maybe it was because of the sinister music, or maybe it was his evil laugh. Whatever the case, it game me a strange sense of foreboding. Other than that, good episode. |
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Mormegil said: I don't trust this bastard: There's something very suspicious about him. Maybe it was because of the sinister music, or maybe it was his evil laugh. Whatever the case, it game me a strange sense of foreboding. Other than that, good episode. Haha...yeah I thought he was supposed to be some bad guy, the way they portrayed him. (maybe he is a bad guy...I don't know) |
| I really liked this episode, we get to meet Kohaku who is an angel^^ Seeing Ioryogi knows that person, it's good that we have a few more meetings after that :D Poor Kobato, she only got a toy crocodile but the scene where she holds on to the tickets tightly was really funny ^_^ Shuichiro and Kohaku are the couple to watch here and I have to say the -100 isn't very helpful for Kobato after everything she went through. |
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| Kobato has such a good heart. I just love her xP |
Tosi ystävyys ei jäädy pakkasella! Thank you for your visit. Welcome again! |
| hahas... Kobato is too positive x_x |
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wakka9ca said: If you check their anime profile, you would see that this is just not their kind of series. They would prefer generic harem, generic shounen or generic ecchi over this. or they just detest on how shitty this adaptation turned out and how even more ruined it will get with mishmash of wish plotline. wakka9ca said: I think it's the reverse, they are not taking this series seriously enough. This is CLAMP and by the ending of Wish manga at least, you can be guaranteed this series has a much darker turn. Its impossible to take this "adaptation" seriously. Anything of value from manga is lost for the sake of random fluff and wish storyline. And even if manga takes a darker turn(which I am 99% certain), it does not matter, since anime will still end itself with its own happy end mishmash of wish and kobato, after 24 episodes. |
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Fai said: Hmm, seems like i need to read those manga after allIts impossible to take this "adaptation" seriously. Anything of value from manga is lost for the sake of random fluff and wish storyline. And even if manga takes a darker turn(which I am 99% certain), it does not matter, since anime will still end itself with its own happy end mishmash of wish and kobato, after 24 episodes. |
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| Kobato is just too cute <3 more and more every episode <3 How many jobs has to do Fujimoto? o.O seems that he has some kind of familiar problems or sort of O.o Waiting for the next ep! |
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| Well, I really liked this episode especially when Kohaku watered the trees, that was beautiful. I'll still keep watching. |
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Fai said: or they just detest on how shitty this adaptation turned out and how even more ruined it will get with mishmash of wish plotline. But most of them don't even read manga....lol... Fai said: Its impossible to take this "adaptation" seriously. Anything of value from manga is lost for the sake of random fluff and wish storyline. And even if manga takes a darker turn(which I am 99% certain), it does not matter, since anime will still end itself with its own happy end mishmash of wish and kobato, after 24 episodes. Who knows what CLAMP planned? Since apparently this anime is supervised by Ohkawa herself, who can guarantee that this anime series will turn out shitty? Certainly, if you suddenly hear Ohkawa drawing out of it, then it means it really deviated to the point of no return. Sure, the storyline is completely messed up compared to what I have read of the manga (very sparse chapters from the Newtype magazines I read) Fortunately, based on their past (bad) experience with Tsubasa Chronicles, they learned to be more careful. In other words, the ending of the anime may just have been planned by CLAMP all along (or at least got their approval) Not to mention the possibility of a second season (open end) for future manga development. What I find funny is that people (not Fai, because you have a valid reason of your own and I respect and understand your frustration) start bashing this series while they praise at the same time series much more "generic" than Kobato. Strangely, these series must be so bad I don't see anyone who watches them complain in their forums....which means either: 1 - they're so bad only people who can tolerate them watch 2 - people actually like them (but I don't) |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
snsninja said: The bunny sounded evil...? i didn't really notice o.o I think it was more the sudden mysterious music in the background and the sudden zoom in. I only looked at that scene once so maybe if I were to look at it a second time I wouldn't get that feeling. |
| Well, an plot twist occurs. There's a time limit. can't wait for next ep. |
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