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Aug 5, 2014 7:51 AM
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Seems like Animehere updated their shit.
After 5 days of not updating
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tsubasalover said:
Update July 30
METI (Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry) has published a press release stating 500 manga works and 80 anime works are being targeted, not websites. The press release includes a PowerPoint that contains an actual list of websites they are targeting. Included are scanlation sites (slides 11-12), fansub upload websites (slides 13-15), direct download websites (slide 16), torrent sites (slides 17-18), and redistribution websites (slides 19-20).

Source: METI press release


I'm not going to read the whole topic to check, so...

Has anyone pointed out that that is not a list of websites they're targeting? The whole thing is the study that METI is using to claim the percentage of piracy. Those lists of websites are under the section labeled "Survey of intellectual property rights infringement on websites", the listings are simply informational break downs of what websites are popularly used for that type of pirated content right now, breakdowns of their traffic, and a note as to whether or not they're known to respond to removal requests.
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GrayArchon said:
tsubasalover said:
Update July 30
METI (Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry) has published a press release stating 500 manga works and 80 anime works are being targeted, not websites. The press release includes a PowerPoint that contains an actual list of websites they are targeting. Included are scanlation sites (slides 11-12), fansub upload websites (slides 13-15), direct download websites (slide 16), torrent sites (slides 17-18), and redistribution websites (slides 19-20).

Source: METI press release


I'm not going to read the whole topic to check, so...

Has anyone pointed out that that is not a list of websites they're targeting? The whole thing is the study that METI is using to claim the percentage of piracy. Those lists of websites are under the section labeled "Survey of intellectual property rights infringement on websites", the listings are simply informational break downs of what websites are popularly used for that type of pirated content right now, breakdowns of their traffic, and a note as to whether or not they're known to respond to removal requests.

As that Tsundere girl said, they're just blocking sites in Japan self.
Aug 5, 2014 10:19 AM

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Drunk_Samurai said:
Dcyend said:

If you are speaking about this part, I ignored it.


It means you never actually read it since you missed the entire point of the post.

Not at all, simply ignored your irrespectfull way, read it, and the post is going to nowhere meanwhile Japan does not damage the pages we follow. They are going for the expecifics 500 and more anime/manga licensed, thats the point.

But all is quiet, my mind is quiet, and nothing is happening at the moment, D.G.

Hopping nothing happend in future days ':D
DcyendAug 5, 2014 10:30 AM
I'll tell you something, my Tenchi. You know, the carnival comes and goes... if you wait for a while, it'll always come back to you, Tenchi.
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Harutora_Rin said:
As that Tsundere girl said, they're just blocking sites in Japan self.


I repeat, that was not a list of websites they were targeting, it's purely information. It's the study of the piracy they used to arrive at their current conclusions.

Nor has anything been blocked in Japan, or this would be significantly bigger news. Nor has there been any real evidence I've seen of anything being blocked.
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Is any other anime streaming sites down atm?
AnimeUltima won't load, and Downformeoreveryone says it's down.

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Well the resources are there, if they block the ways the mangas or animes flow out Japan. Then is there be difficult days for us, but like said GrayArchon, there are no evidences that is happening anything.

And many of the data in this report are out of date like MU closed long ago. So they center possibly on torrent sites, and local sites onto Japan self.
I'll tell you something, my Tenchi. You know, the carnival comes and goes... if you wait for a while, it'll always come back to you, Tenchi.
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GrayArchon said:
Harutora_Rin said:
As that Tsundere girl said, they're just blocking sites in Japan self.


I repeat, that was not a list of websites they were targeting, it's purely information. It's the study of the piracy they used to arrive at their current conclusions.

Nor has anything been blocked in Japan, or this would be significantly bigger news. Nor has there been any real evidence I've seen of anything being blocked.

AnimeTake is blocked Japan. That was pretty big news
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Des said:
Is any other anime streaming sites down atm?
AnimeUltima won't load, and Downformeoreveryone says it's down.

Server problem or actually taken down?
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Des said:
... Downformeoreveryone says it's down.


It's curious, this is the message when I enter:

"Downformeoreveryone.com is up!
It seems that Downformeoreveryone.com is only down and not working for you right now!

Our research shows Downformeoreveryone.com is currently in the UP status after conducting a real time search. At the moment it seems Downformeoreveryone.com is only down for you. Be sure to check your DNS settings or refresh your browser cache and try Downformeoreveryone.com again.

Additional research information and status history for Downformeoreveryone.com is provided below for your reference. For example, Downformeoreveryone.com was down 0 times out of 2,800 checks. This is a 0% downtime ratio based on past history.

For your immediate notice, Downformeoreveryone.com was last checked on 08/05/2014 19:38 and you may want to consider checking it again.

Using Facebook comments, be sure to leave your feedback about Downformeoreveryone.com below. Right now, it shows as UP.
"

So there are a IP blocking or so.
I'll tell you something, my Tenchi. You know, the carnival comes and goes... if you wait for a while, it'll always come back to you, Tenchi.
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Dcyend said:
Des said:
... Downformeoreveryone says it's down.


It's curious, this is the message when I enter:

"Downformeoreveryone.com is up!
It seems that Downformeoreveryone.com is only down and not working for you right now!

Our research shows Downformeoreveryone.com is currently in the UP status after conducting a real time search. At the moment it seems Downformeoreveryone.com is only down for you. Be sure to check your DNS settings or refresh your browser cache and try Downformeoreveryone.com again.

Additional research information and status history for Downformeoreveryone.com is provided below for your reference. For example, Downformeoreveryone.com was down 0 times out of 2,800 checks. This is a 0% downtime ratio based on past history.

For your immediate notice, Downformeoreveryone.com was last checked on 08/05/2014 19:38 and you may want to consider checking it again.

Using Facebook comments, be sure to leave your feedback about Downformeoreveryone.com below. Right now, it shows as UP.
"

So there are a IP blocking or so.

AnimeUltima is up again
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@Dcyend
I know downforeveryoneorjustme is up, I just used it :P
But AnimeUltima was down when I checked it with that page.

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Read yet AnimeTake opinions?

I’ve came to the conclusion that this is pretty much a complete joke.


Mmmm, reading the METI pages, it could put the things pretty serious... The consultant company is a well known german strategy consultant group.
I'll tell you something, my Tenchi. You know, the carnival comes and goes... if you wait for a while, it'll always come back to you, Tenchi.
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Dcyend said:
Read yet AnimeTake opinions?

I’ve came to the conclusion that this is pretty much a complete joke.


Mmmm, reading the METI pages, it could put the things pretty serious... The consultant company is a well known german strategy consultant group.


They're up against an entity that is massive, they'll lose.

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Dcyend said:
Read yet AnimeTake opinions?

I’ve came to the conclusion that this is pretty much a complete joke.


Mmmm, reading the METI pages, it could put the things pretty serious... The consultant company is a well known german strategy consultant group.

However, Germany tried to shut down Anime websites back in 2011
With the Govt's help..
That makes me believe that this is bullshit
Aug 5, 2014 11:15 AM

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So... Did they sell Nyaa to the Jap Govt yet?
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Aug 5, 2014 11:29 AM
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GodlyKyon said:
So... Did they sell Nyaa to the Jap Govt yet?

Nope
Aug 5, 2014 11:31 AM

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So... Did they sell Nyaa to the Jap Govt yet?

Nope
Know any sites that will upload Battle of Gods English Dub today?
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GodlyKyon said:
So... Did they sell Nyaa to the Jap Govt yet?


No, But if they do i'm gonna put on my mask and murder those greedy japs.
Stop calling me your bunny I won't hop and you don't own me
Aug 5, 2014 1:06 PM

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No, But if they do i'm gonna put on my mask and murder those greedy japs.


I'll grease your chainsaw ;D
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vegetagoku108 said:
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Nope
Know any sites that will upload Battle of Gods English Dub today?
anyone can answer
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http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=63229 Join the revolution! (Parody club of M.A.G.)
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DirectorVhd said:
http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=63229 Join the revolution! (Parody club of M.A.G.)

Does that mean that everyone in the club laughs at the real M.A.G.?
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Mmmm... Some not work on Hotfile - not so much in days - O_O

Anyone knows anything?
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Harutora_Rin said:
DirectorVhd said:
http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=63229 Join the revolution! (Parody club of M.A.G.)

Does that mean that everyone in the club laughs at the real M.A.G.?


There's a real M.A.G?
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I actually do feel guilty for helping hold out on Japan's rightfully earned $5.5 billion but
I just gotta get my anime on, so that's the way its gonna be. sowwy japan :'(
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If they made a manga reading site like J-Comi but in English, then I don't mind only going there. Heck, I wouldn't mind paying subscription for that little extra. :^)

But most of the legal manga sites are pay per volume. I'm not interested in purchasing a digital copy. I'm more of a physical copy type of girl. I honestly see no value in buying digital books and rather pay a monthly subscription to read unlimited amounts of manga.

The only legal site that is subscription is Crunchyroll, which most of their series don't really interest me (except for Attack on Titan and a few others). I also rarely watch anime, so that $6.95 per month subscription is pretty useless to me.

Until then, I'm going to be a rebel.






Also, Japan thinking they can stop all piracy outside their county is a joke. Not even the American music industry can stop all the piracy out there.
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http://daisuki.net/ there is also daisuki

as for manga there is
http://comic-walker.com/ it is nice site, all manga are for free there is accel world, illya drei, high school dxd, sword art online, the problem is you have to wait many months for new chapters
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Good_Lucifer said:
I actually do feel guilty for helping hold out on Japan's rightfully earned $5.5 billion but
I just gotta get my anime on, so that's the way its gonna be. sowwy japan :'(


The $5.5 billion is complete bullshit. It's impossible for them to have lost that much even to bootleggers.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
Good_Lucifer said:
I actually do feel guilty for helping hold out on Japan's rightfully earned $5.5 billion but
I just gotta get my anime on, so that's the way its gonna be. sowwy japan :'(


The $5.5 billion is complete bullshit. It's impossible for them to have lost that much even to bootleggers.

It's actually possible they lost almost 0 considering it's piracy we're talking about.




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Drunk_Samurai said:
Good_Lucifer said:
I actually do feel guilty for helping hold out on Japan's rightfully earned $5.5 billion but
I just gotta get my anime on, so that's the way its gonna be. sowwy japan :'(


The $5.5 billion is complete bullshit. It's impossible for them to have lost that much even to bootleggers.


if it was something else it would be very possible but we are talking about anime/manga... honestly for the most part they ignore the international market and never actual release in other languages... so yeah they didn't lose shit because most of the pirating is done by customers who never could/would have bought the product anyway
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Immahnoob said:
Drunk_Samurai said:


The $5.5 billion is complete bullshit. It's impossible for them to have lost that much even to bootleggers.

It's actually possible they lost almost 0 considering it's piracy we're talking about.


That's ignorant too. I know people who pirated instead of buying something they would have bought.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
Immahnoob said:

It's actually possible they lost almost 0 considering it's piracy we're talking about.


That's ignorant too. I know people who pirated instead of buying something they would have bought.

That's losing potential money, not actual real money.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
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Immahnoob said:
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That's ignorant too. I know people who pirated instead of buying something they would have bought.

That's losing potential money, not actual real money.


That only applies if they wouldn't have bought the product in the first place. If a person pirates something they would have bought then that is definitely a lost sale.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
Immahnoob said:

That's losing potential money, not actual real money.


That only applies if they wouldn't have bought the product in the first place. If a person pirates something they would have bought then that is definitely a lost sale.

That's still a "what if" in any way you take it.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
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Immahnoob said:
That's still a "what if" in any way you take it.
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Not at all.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
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That's still a "what if" in any way you take it.
'

Not at all.

"If a person pirates something they would have bought..."

Then you fall in absolutes believing that it's a one-hundred percent chance that nothing can happen to hinder the buying of the material, one extreme example (which isn't necessarily wrong) is that the material is lower in number than the consumers.

Then you also forget to read what I'm saying, I said "almost 0" implying it's not necessarily 0, I don't like speaking in absolutes either.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
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Druk_Samurai said:

The $5.5 billion is complete bullshit. It's impossible for them to have lost that much even to bootleggers.

. . . It's OK your opinion, there are no loses, It's Economics theory about more or less profit in their solds, I mean, ficticional money they think have to gain, but don't meet their expectations. So there are not loses, only ghost money in the air. . .
"If a person pirates something they would have bought..."

You remembered me when sony go to market with their flamand PS 1, they don't think their machine was too piracyable, they only think on sell more and more piracyable machines, many game makers companies were the true afected, Sony only think in this moment "my machine is piracyable, and many people is going to buy it, so I'm going to do market..." New policies in their company do less piracyable machines, so their solds go down. Resume: Piracy do market possible. The same for anime or manga, when somebody who like physical manga look in their own country and don't find anything, go to Net, then when casually this manga go to their country they buy it, then, where is the problem? Only in their economical projects, they do a calculation, their accouts mark x%, and when they see -1% they claim "we have loses", a great lie, they belive like a truth :P
DcyendAug 9, 2014 6:59 PM
I'll tell you something, my Tenchi. You know, the carnival comes and goes... if you wait for a while, it'll always come back to you, Tenchi.
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There has been and always will be piracy. I think what really needs to be focused on is a way to offer paid convenience over piracy. Like Spotify with music. I don't think Spotify has gotten it 100% right yet, but its a step in a new direction. I've heard about Crunchyroll (for anime), haven't checked them out yet, though.

We can't just say "there will always be piracy, so whats the point of them trying?" - The artists need to make income in order to create.

I commend them for cracking down, but this type of cracking down, I feel, isn't the solution. Though, perhaps one part of the puzzle.
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Also, Japan thinking they can stop all piracy outside their county is a joke. Not even the American music industry can stop all the piracy out there.



Yes, even hollywood movies are being pirated. Even the American goverment can't stop piracy but it can be pretty serious to Japan losing alot of money because of all the anime and manga piracy but still thats how most anime's and manga's turn famous to countries who have plenty of otaku's (except Japan) Also it doesn't completely erase anime and manga piracy because of the sites that do not have headquarters who are set in Japan example Crunchyroll is based in the USA so it does not affect them unless it turns to a global matter.
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... - The artists need to make income in order to create...

Well, this is a mistake all of us think. The artist perceive the 100% of their paid and rights. The editors are the truly damaged, by illegal edition - but it's considered in their own country, 'cause the more of works out frontiers not have licenses out of Japan, and only a few ones on EEUU, Canada, Latinamerica or Europe. The issue is what do consider legally or piracy, if there are not editions there nor licenses.

Then they claim "we have loses", and I ask where are the loses, in Japan self? Out frontiers? It's a Economics ruse, they haven't lost anything, they only say - interlines - "we have not gained the money we thought we were going to gain... Look for a scapegoat!". This is no a justification for illegal activities, but some fansubes' works are in the right - 'cause there are no licenses -, but they pursue this like a crime, I don't think so... The same for websites with fansubes' works.
DcyendAug 11, 2014 8:36 PM
I'll tell you something, my Tenchi. You know, the carnival comes and goes... if you wait for a while, it'll always come back to you, Tenchi.
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Shit.. where will I watch my illegal episodes then? This is bull... though I understand it if I were losing this much money over pirating sites...
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Also, Japan thinking they can stop all piracy outside their county is a joke. Not even the American music industry can stop all the piracy out there.



Yes, even hollywood movies are being pirated. Even the American goverment can't stop piracy but if it can be pretty serious to Japan losing alot of money because of all the anime and manga piracy but still thats how most anime's and manga's turn famous to countries who have plenty of otaku's (except Japan) Also it doesn't completely erase anime and manga piracy because of the sites that do not have headquarters who are set in Japan example crunchyroll i think is based in the USA so it does not affect them unless it turns to a global matter.[/quote]

"American movie industry claim that 20 billion is lost yearly to pirating, this is false. The money are still there, but spent on stuff like clothing, food, housing, etc. The Movie INDUSTRY may have lost 20 billion dollars, but the people are still using it"
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Jaraluc said:
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Also, Japan thinking they can stop all piracy outside their county is a joke. Not even the American music industry can stop all the piracy out there.



Yes, even hollywood movies are being pirated. Even the American goverment can't stop piracy but if it can be pretty serious to Japan losing alot of money because of all the anime and manga piracy but still thats how most anime's and manga's turn famous to countries who have plenty of otaku's (except Japan) Also it doesn't completely erase anime and manga piracy because of the sites that do not have headquarters who are set in Japan example crunchyroll i think is based in the USA so it does not affect them unless it turns to a global matter.


"American movie industry claim that 20 billion is lost yearly to pirating, this is false. The money are still there, but spent on stuff like clothing, food, housing, etc. The Movie INDUSTRY may have lost 20 billion dollars, but the people are still using it"[/quote]

What is up with these awful arguments for supporting piracy?
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It's not such a big problem for USA, because they have legal streaming sites for anime and an English official translation of weekly manga magazines. But the other parts of the world depend on piracy if they want to follow manga and anime... I hope it improves someday...
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Drunk_Samurai said:
GodlyKyon said:



Yes, even hollywood movies are being pirated. Even the American goverment can't stop piracy but if it can be pretty serious to Japan losing alot of money because of all the anime and manga piracy but still thats how most anime's and manga's turn famous to countries who have plenty of otaku's (except Japan) Also it doesn't completely erase anime and manga piracy because of the sites that do not have headquarters who are set in Japan example crunchyroll i think is based in the USA so it does not affect them unless it turns to a global matter.


"American movie industry claim that 20 billion is lost yearly to pirating, this is false. The money are still there, but spent on stuff like clothing, food, housing, etc. The Movie INDUSTRY may have lost 20 billion dollars, but the people are still using it"


What is up with these awful arguments for supporting piracy?[/quote]


How about this "I pirate stuff because I'd rather spend my money on beer than movies and getting them free is just too easy"
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How about this "I pirate stuff because I'd rather spend my money on beer than movies and getting them free is just too easy"


That isn't really an argument. Not that I care anyway. I'm a huge pirate.
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So has MangaFox gotten scared? They haven't added the latest chapter to Attack on Titan.

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