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Jun 25, 2014 9:51 PM

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Just wondering, since I didn't read the whole thread, but are there any hypocrites here who posted in that thread in CE about the Chinese girl getting beaten to death who are saying they'd step in and fight after saying that stepping in to help her would have been stupid? I really hope not, so I'm just checking.
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Thrashinuva said:
All the Chuck Norris's out there can have those Angelina Jolie's (or whatever female idol you consider beautiful and/or dumb).
Implying Angelina Jolie is dumb?
Jun 25, 2014 9:56 PM

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How about we don't go roaming the streets at 1 AM in the fucking morning and if trouble comes around we call the cops. And also, you know, not take a stroll in da hood.


^This LOL

Though since it's a hypothetical situation I'll take a crack at it. Knowing myself and my tastes, my partner(lady) would probably defend herself in that moment. If they then got aggressive about it I would try to step in between them and her and try to cool things down. If things eventually escalated I would assist my partner in defending ourselves street fighting style. As in crack one of the dude's nuts on my knee and give him a good punch and kick afterward, then gtfo of there as soon as possible.

Though before all this even happened I would check them for weapons and my surroundings for possibly more of them.
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Jun 25, 2014 10:17 PM

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NTAD said:
Just wondering, since I didn't read the whole thread, but are there any hypocrites here who posted in that thread in CE about the Chinese girl getting beaten to death who are saying they'd step in and fight after saying that stepping in to help her would have been stupid? I really hope not, so I'm just checking.
Hmm, good question.

Admittedly, my approach might not be the safest, but at least I am consistent.
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If my man can beat them up, I won't interfere unless I get bored and see an opening. If he can't, then I'd be the one to beat the shit of those two big fellas. Although I am small and manly, I can be a tough cookie!!! >:U
Jun 25, 2014 10:39 PM

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idungoof said:
If these guys were in a "we're gonna rape this girl" mindset then my belief is that they would take me down first and quickly and then grab her while she's still in shock from what just happened in front of her. If they're going the route of feeling up your girlfriend in front of you they're trying to provoke a reaction. In my experience these situations can be diffused if you're willing to get between her and them and stand up for her. You may have to take a hit or 2, but as long as you can manage that (I have a hard head) without firing back it's highly likely in my opinion that this particular situation would cool down. They had their fun, they're not getting anywhere with trying to get you really pissed off, you're a pathetic idiot and they'll find something more interesting to do like harassing someone who will arc up.

It's possible that they wouldn't stop at that point, that's probably when I'd tell her to run and go the hold them off option, probably combined with giving them tons of lip so they really, really want to bash me and forget about her. But generally I think when people are seriously out to cause serious damage or commit rape they wouldn't be so gentle about it as the guys in this scenario.
The willingness to expose yourself to expose yourself to harm, is much higher if you're the one on defense. I can see trying to diffuse the situation if they're just talking shit, but the moment one of them has his hand up her skirt, that's when things have gone to far, and the red mist would descend for me. Obviously putting yourself between her and the other guys is the first step, and then telling her to run away.

Then there's the issue of honor and principles. At some point, the norm demands that you that as a man, ought to have the capability to prevent an insult like this from happening. One can tolerate their bud being called a fag, or a nigger, or whatever, but in this case, you're expected to keep the insult from ever being uttered. If that happens (both verbal and physical insulting), then you're expected to enact some sort of retribution, that at the very least stands in proportion to their wrongdoing, but preferably is many times harsher. I think Henry in Goodfellas sets a good example.
Jun 25, 2014 10:49 PM

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animeoppai said:
Thrashinuva said:
All the Chuck Norris's out there can have those Angelina Jolie's (or whatever female idol you consider beautiful and/or dumb).
Implying Angelina Jolie is dumb?

Implying Angelina Jolie is considered beautiful and/or stupid by many.
If Angelina Jolie is not beautiful and/or stupid according to you, then feel free to insert whatever beautiful and/or stupid female idol you choose.

And, to set it straight, I have no idea how intelligent Angelina is. But I have constantly heard that she is a total bombshell by many. I myself don't find her appealing.
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And, to set it straight, I have no idea how intelligent Angelina is. But I have constantly heard that she is a total bombshell by many. I myself don't find her appealing.
I have never heard anyone say that. Your friends or whoever said that must be real fucking idiots. She is about as intelligent as any other woman.
Jun 25, 2014 10:57 PM

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Azure719 said:
She is about as intelligent as any other woman.




Maybe....hopefully...
Jun 25, 2014 11:02 PM

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Azure719 said:
Thrashinuva said:
And, to set it straight, I have no idea how intelligent Angelina is. But I have constantly heard that she is a total bombshell by many. I myself don't find her appealing.
I have never heard anyone say that. Your friends or whoever said that must be real fucking idiots. She is about as intelligent as any other woman.

Do you have any idea what "bombshell" means.
Jun 25, 2014 11:05 PM

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Uhm, run away...if he starts a fight he can't win, then that puts both of us in danger, no?

+ I wouldn't want him to get hurt OTL
Jun 25, 2014 11:07 PM

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I have never heard anyone say that. Your friends or whoever said that must be real fucking idiots. She is about as intelligent as any other woman.

Do you have any idea what "bombshell" means.
Should I have quoted your whole post? Sorry if I left you confused (lol), but this is halting productive discourse.

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Uhm, run away...if he starts a fight he can't win, then that puts both of us in danger, no?

+ I wouldn't want him to get hurt OTL
What if there's just one guy who he completely beats the shit out of? Would that get your sex juices flowing?
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I'd rather run away than to have someone I'm dating get us into a fight (there'd be no way in hell I'd just stand there like a ditz). I prefer to just get out of a situation instead of making it worse. I'd probably make sure to call the cops too.

Of course, this is assuming I'd be 'out on the town' anyways. I'm not fond of wandering around cities.
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Jun 25, 2014 11:09 PM

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@azure

Id still say no. Call me naive but I think violence is never the answer.
Jun 25, 2014 11:09 PM

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Middle Eastern?

You know, this could be anybody, not just "Middle Eastern."
Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit.
Jun 25, 2014 11:10 PM

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iSheep said:
Middle Eastern?

You know, this could be anybody, not just "Middle Eastern."
I even pointed that out, genius.
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Azure719 said:
iSheep said:
Middle Eastern?

You know, this could be anybody, not just "Middle Eastern."
I even pointed that out, genius.


The only other guy you stated was African....
Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit.
Jun 25, 2014 11:11 PM

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iSheep said:
Azure719 said:
I even pointed that out, genius.


The only other guy you stated was African....
I forgive you, my child.

Now, how about answering OP's question?
Jun 25, 2014 11:16 PM

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Azure719 said:
Now, how about answering OP's question?


Well, I'd like to point out that first of all, I'm not a female.

However, I'd go with logic. If you might lose, don't make the situation worse. Just run. Losing the fight will do one of a good number of things that we probably would do better without.
Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit.
Jun 25, 2014 11:18 PM

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Azure719 said:
Thrashinuva said:

Do you have any idea what "bombshell" means.
Should I have quoted your whole post? Sorry if I left you confused (lol), but this is halting productive discourse.


Okay. No. You don't get it. I'm going to break it down for you.

"I have no idea how intelligent Angelina is." This is what you focused on.
"But I have constantly heard that she is a total bombshell by many" This is a statement about her apparent attractiveness.
"I myself don't find her appealing." This is a statement about my own opinion that I do not find her very attractive.

To put it VERY simply, there was NO statement about her having a lack of intelligence from any person I know.

Because there was no statement about her intelligence, this: "She is about as intelligent as any other woman." has no real use here. It's only purpose is to reinforce this statement: "Your friends or whoever said that must be real fucking idiots."
This means, note here: not "implies", but means, that you have no idea that I was in fact reinforcing that idea that she commonly believed to be attractive, while dismissing the idea that I or anyone else I knew felt she was of inferior intelligence.

TL;DR you have no fucking idea what you're saying or what you're responding to and you have zero inclination to remedy that as proven by the previous chance I gave you for that when I said "Do you have any idea what "bombshell" means." But you didn't even look it up.
Jun 25, 2014 11:21 PM

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Thrashinuva said:
TL;DR you have no fucking idea what you're saying or what you're responding to and you have zero inclination to remedy that as proven by the previous chance I gave you for that when I said "Do you have any idea what "bombshell" means." But you didn't even look it up.
I know what ''bombshell'' means, and I also know what a ''try-hard troll'' is.
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Azure719 said:
Thrashinuva said:
TL;DR you have no fucking idea what you're saying or what you're responding to and you have zero inclination to remedy that as proven by the previous chance I gave you for that when I said "Do you have any idea what "bombshell" means." But you didn't even look it up.
I know what ''bombshell'' means, and I also know what a ''try-hard troll'' is.

If you know what bombshell means, then you've only proven that "but this is halting productive discourse." refers mostly to you here. You posed the question, and you intend to halt meaningful discussion. This is a tactic used by those in power to force others to agree with them. Put plainly, it's the "shut door in face" tactic.
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Thrashinuva said:
Azure719 said:
I know what ''bombshell'' means, and I also know what a ''try-hard troll'' is.

If you know what bombshell means, then you've only proven that "but this is halting productive discourse." refers mostly to you here. You posed the question, and you intend to halt meaningful discussion. This is a tactic used by those in power to force others to agree with them. Put plainly, it's the "shut door in face" tactic.
It's not halting productive discourse, you had the opportunity to make a reply about Angelina Jolie's alleged stupidity (which I think would've been productive), but instead you go on this unnecessary tangent.

I think it's interesting that some people think she's stupid, just because she's so much more attractive than your average woman.
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Azure719 said:
I think it's interesting that some people think she's stupid, just because she's so much more attractive than your average woman.

Who here said they think that? I've never heard that. Not even in this topic until you said it.
Jun 25, 2014 11:47 PM

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Thrashinuva said:
People talk about how women have insanely unrealistic models to look up to, and they're pressured to be so perfect or have unrealistic proportions.

But this is the same thing. Don't expect some kind of Bruce Lee to pop out of me.


Feminism is about womens interests. A significant population of them still want to retain aspects of society that benefit them such as chivalry or even male expendability and don't give a damn about issues that affect males. Kind of like how feminists in European countries are outraged at female conscription but don't do anything to protest male conscription, etc.

I would like it if a women to defended my honor. That sounds like a fun time.
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Thrashinuva said:
People talk about how women have insanely unrealistic models to look up to, and they're pressured to be so perfect or have unrealistic proportions.

But this is the same thing. Don't expect some kind of Bruce Lee to pop out of me.


Feminism is about womens interests. A significant population of them still want to retain aspects of society that benefit them such as chivalry or even male expendability and don't give a damn about issues that affect males. Kind of like how feminists in European countries are outraged at female conscription but don't do anything to protest male conscription, etc.

I would like it if a women to defended my honor. That sounds like a fun time.


Yeah I'd revel at the notion of a woman kicking ass for my sake. I mean, I'd be worried about her, much like the women in this topic have expressed their concern for whatever man would be protecting them. It's just the same thing.
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Can't see I've had this thought before myself.

Well I wonder what the man was doing. With a girl in an area like this in the first place.
Jun 26, 2014 12:16 AM

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Nice racism OP.

@Pxi2. You're starting to sound like a broken record. This is 2014 and I'm 100% that most straight women in this day and age don't give a shit about having their "honor" defended nor do they expect their boyfriend/husband to be a 9 Dan Aikidoka.

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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Sapewloth said:
Nice racism OP.
Middle Eastern isn't even a race. Not to say that the OP was aware of that.
Jun 26, 2014 12:52 AM

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It's stupid to try to fight two guys bigger than you at night on an empty street, both who might carry a weapon or a knife. The best choice in that situation would be to push them aside, grab the girl and get out of there as soon as possible. On the other hand, girls have this notion that you're not a strong man if she can't feel complete safety from you and might lose respect for you in the longrun and the same goes if you fought and took a beating because females aren't the most rational creatures.
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Jun 26, 2014 1:55 AM

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It's best to run, I guess. Sadly I'm probably slower than at least one of them.

Then I'd just pretend I'm some mentally insane person, jump on them and bite their ear off or whatever.

That would be kind of funny too see, and a honourable dead ;_;
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Sapewloth said:
Nice racism OP.
Middle Eastern isn't even a race. Not to say that the OP was aware of that.
Sure, and neither is african.
But that's probably what the OP had in mind when he typed that shit.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Jun 26, 2014 2:35 AM

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I'm middle eastern so I'll just join them, because that's what we middle easten people do.
Jun 26, 2014 3:00 AM

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Yes, I want my man to get beaten to a pulp so I can leave with the exotic Middle Easterns.
Jun 26, 2014 4:04 AM

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Fuck no. My honour is mine. I'll defend it perfectly well on my own, or if i decide to tarnish it then that's also mine to own.
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first off OPer, you're fucking racist like oh my god seeing how you're responding to people it's just like entering into a section of Hitler's mind.

secondly, you're poll answer of "I want some modern man, not some brute"and "fuck yeah, it gets me sex juices flowing" clearly shows how you lack even the simplest understanding of women and also how you're stupid enough to think that a "modern man" is a "brute" if he tries to protect his gf or wife.....I cannot even

so yeah, have fun with your ignorant views. TOODLES


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if guys are being physical with me then yes I'dlike the guy to pull them off me. They might try ta take my virginity! At the very least theposistion is unconfortable

Ifit's just words sticks and stones is the way to go!
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first off OPer, you're fucking racist like oh my god seeing how you're responding to people it's just like entering into a section of Hitler's mind.

secondly, you're poll answer of "I want some modern man, not some brute"and "fuck yeah, it gets me sex juices flowing" clearly shows how you lack even the simplest understanding of women and also how you're stupid enough to think that a "modern man" is a "brute" if he tries to protect his gf or wife.....I cannot even

so yeah, have fun with your ignorant views. TOODLES





Though I agree, they make a valid point.
Jun 26, 2014 9:00 AM

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I kinda know how to deal with people bigger than me so I'd probably just leave those guys toothless or worse.
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Also, while we're still talking about basic self-defense, don't aim for the genitals first. Whenever someone tries to land a blow beneath your belt, most of the time your body will immediately rear up and protect your goods by raising your knee. It's an instinctive reaction for both men and women...

If you really want to hurt an assailant, go for the eyes with your thumbs and/or fingernails. They're an easy-to-reach, easy-to-damage target and, no matter how buff your opponent might be, even so much as a light flick to the eye will always cause him to immediately take a step back, giving you enough time to start running. Another recommendable tactic would be to hit the opponent's ears with your open palms to disorient him momentarily before striking at the eyes.

One last thing; no matter how good you are at martial arts or self-defense, the chances of winning a 2-on-1 fight are close to nil, even with simple weapons such as knives or house-keys. No matter how trained you are, it is really, really difficult to fight against a second opponent that you can't see; the instant you lash out against one, no matter how strong your attack is, there's still a pretty good chance that the other will wipe the floor with your ass at that very same instant while you're busy dealing with the first.

Remember, silly as it may sound, prevention is the best defense; don't go in the ill-reputed neighborhood at 1 am and the chances of meeting those scary-wary Middle Easterns (or Africans. Let's not forget about them, since the OP was so kind to remind us about that...) will drastically decrease.
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I kinda know how to deal with people bigger than me so I'd probably just leave those guys toothless or worse.
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Yamikaze said:
I kinda know how to deal with people bigger than me so I'd probably just leave those guys toothless or worse.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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I'd probably just leave those guys toothless or worse.
Sure you would pal.
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I'd probably just leave those guys toothless or worse.
Sure you would pal.
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xDrayken said:
PantsMan said:
Also, while we're still talking about basic self-defense, don't aim for the genitals first. Whenever someone tries to land a blow beneath your belt, most of the time your body will immediately rear up and protect your goods by raising your knee. It's an instinctive reaction for both men and women...

If you really want to hurt an assailant, go for the eyes with your thumbs and/or fingernails. They're an easy-to-reach, easy-to-damage target and, no matter how buff your opponent might be, even so much as a light flick to the eye will always cause him to immediately take a step back, giving you enough time to start running. Another recommendable tactic would be to hit the opponent's ears with your open palms to disorient him momentarily before striking at the eyes.

One last thing; no matter how good you are at martial arts or self-defense, the chances of winning a 2-on-1 fight are close to nil, even with simple weapons such as knives or house-keys. No matter how trained you are, it is really, really difficult to fight against a second opponent that you can't see; the instant you lash out against one, no matter how strong your attack is, there's still a pretty good chance that the other will wipe the floor with your ass at that very same instant while you're busy dealing with the first.

Remember, silly as it may sound, prevention is the best defense; don't go in the ill-reputed neighborhood at 1 am and the chances of meeting those scary-wary Middle Easterns (or Africans. Let's not forget about them, since the OP was so kind to remind us about that...) will drastically decrease.


If you genuinely believe that it is difficult to beat two punks when you are trained, you are very mistaken. Take for example someone trained in Krav Maga. Did you know that the Krav Maga system is very effective at taking multiple opponents? You are taught to use everything in your reach, never to fight on the ground and control your opponents to make a fight against multiple people easier on yourself. You're talking about fighting one person while you are blind towards the second opponent, obviously you'll fuck up because if you can't control your position in a fight against multiple people it's pretty damn obvious that you'll get hit in the back.

Also, the chances of you being able to discombobulate an aggressive person is very low. For such a strike to do enough damage you need to have a striking pattern ressembling a haymaker or a hook depending on the technique except with both hands and open palms. If you do land the hit you are not even guaranteed that you will do it right, and most likely will not get to go for the eyes like you said because the person is not just going to stay still, they will move, their head will move, it's just impossible for you to pinpoint the eyes when your target is moving.

Go for the throat first. A hard enough hit can kill the person but it is a risk to take. A straight forward strike will always be faster than anything else. A strike to the throat doesn't require you to shift your shoulders meaning that the person will have less clues to react. The fact that it is going straight forward also has the same effect, their reaction time will be slower because it'll take longer for them to see the strike coming.

Now if you're trained you have two choices, carry on with the fight or run. If you're not trained, run.

And for your case, please refrain from giving anyone advices on self-defense in the future, you'll get someone hurt by making them think something works when it doesn't. Watching youtube videos does not make you a fighter or a martial artist.

I'm not trying to be a dick here, but if there's one thing I hate it's someone teaching false theory of self-defense. Theres a lot more possiblities than what I've talked about but I'm not gonna start giving martial arts classes here.

but do you have any knowledge of self defense
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Have mace or a taser o some sort of handy defense weapon on your person atall times.

If that fails learn judo now so it can be applied.
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So many tough men to be found on MAL. Who knew?

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''Meatheaded fuckwit'', wow that's narrow-minded, and insulting. You don't sound like a guy who gets out very much and sees the real world. All I'm saying is, in the heat of the moment, you're often thinking about the other person's safety, rather than your own (if you really care about the person). If the man starts getting physical with these brutes, and they're in for a chase, then the female will have a better chance of escaping, obviously (unless she's an idiot).

Yes, I haven't seen much of the world. Well done.

It all depends on the situation. If your only instinct is to fight, then you qualify for my label and it's hardly narrow minded and if facts insult you then so be it.

If they won't back down and it's 1 on 1 sure, fight. If it's 2 guys who are much bigger than you buying her 8 seconds to run away isn't going to do a hell of a lot. Better to try and diffuse the situation first than immediately arcing up like protagonist from your favourite anime, wouldn't you say?


I am afraid meathead is the right word, if all you want to do is fight instead of trying to defuse the situation or attempt to get away first. Even if he can fight, I do not want anyone I care about injured or worse, no matter how much the guys in question deserve to be pounded to a pulp. If he stayed to fight, I could not abandon him to be beaten up and as my skills are scratching, flailing, biting and lots of screaming, it is neither cool or effective. Fighting should be the last resort. So as a girl, if you want to impress me, get me out of there safely with minimum danger.
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Sure you would pal.
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Sharing is caring and at that point she's gonna have to take one (or three, hint hint) for the team.
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Sharing is caring and at that point she's gonna have to take one (or three, hint hint) for the team.


That's horrible.
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